2020 Election
Quote: darkoz
1) the cases were not decided simply put on hold until 2 othed cases are decided this june.
concur, I knew that when I posted the link
Quote:2) this june is when any gerrymandering decision can be celebrated or vilified
I have no problem celebrating a blocking of a ruling even though it is temporary
Quote:3) [the kicker] of the 2 decisions put on hold one was a decision against Republican gerrymandering AND the other was against Democratic gerrymandering
not true, the ruling blocked lower court rulings ordering Republican legislators in Michigan and Ohio to redraw U.S. congressional maps. The ruling did not address the Democratic gerrymandering in Maryland.
Quote:(which makes me wonder if flea even read the article)
see response above, makes me wonder
Quote: terapinedSocialism
Giving soy bean farmers billions. Giving, not loaning. Billions
Gee, wonder what I will eat if soy bean farmers go out of business
Why not grow something we eat.
More BS from the left. Trump is the first President to have the balls to deal with China. Even Crying Chuck supports him on it. China has screwed us for far too long and Trump was handed a mess by former Administrations of both parties.
And he has the common sense to try and alleviate some of the pain it’s going to have on our farmers during the process.
Not sure why you have such an issue over this. You seem to bitch about it 5 times a day calling it socialism.
Quote: Fleaswatterconcur, I knew that when I posted the link
I have no problem celebrating a blocking of a ruling even though it is temporaryQuote:3) [the kicker] of the 2 decisions put on hold one was a decision against Republican gerrymandering AND the other was against Democratic gerrymandering
not true, the ruling blocked lower court rulings ordering Republican legislators in Michigan and Ohio to redraw U.S. congressional maps. The ruling did not address the Democratic gerrymandering in Maryland.
see response above, makes me wonder
Okay, having reread I was incorrect.
I have no problem admitting when I am factually wrong
I I will will also retract the accusation you didnt read the article.
Quote: darkoz
Okay, having reread I was incorrect.
I have no problem admitting when I am factually wrong
I I will will also retract the accusation you didnt read the article.
Thanks, no harm done.
Quote: SanchoPanzaSo? Do you know if the audit has been finished? Do you have any idea how long audits can take?
Audits on billionaires typically are
always ongoing. They have so many
income streams it's hard to keep
up with them. I saw a breakdown'
of the Trump Organization and
was shocked at how much the
family owns. Hundreds of companies
and properties.
Stop being afiad of trump, he's not trying to take away your bus pass discounts.Quote: darkozQuote: BozQuote: darkozQuote: SteverinosQuote: FleaswatterU.S. Supreme Court blocks redrawing of Ohio, Michigan electoral maps
Winning
MAGA!!!
Celebrating gerrymandering? Weird...but okay.
Today is an all time low.
Bankruptcies, tax evasion (because Trump is smart) and gerrymandering all celebrated by the usual suspects
Celebrating like its New Years Eve.
Because all the Trump haters on here still can’t come up with any reason why they dislike him.
And if he loses next year, the smart ones will find ways to benefit from all the handouts and loopholes the lib elected opens up.
Winners win, regardless of the circumstances.
Trump haters have plenty of reasons to hate trump.
Its the Trump lovers who cant come up with any reason to dislike him.
If Trump shot one of his supporters relatives on 5th Avenue they would just say:
A) thats what successful businessmen do. They have people shot. Whats wrong with that?
B) Trump fired a gun. The gun didnt touch my relative. It was the bullet. I don't see the connection
Nor is he required to. The IRS, on the other hand, would be sure to have Lois Lerner's successor call him out on his statements if they weren't true and accurate.Quote: ams288Donald has never shown evidence that they were ever under audit to begin with.
Quote: SteverinosQuote: AZDuffmanI am more proud of a businessman than someone who hides in government or academia.
Are you proud of a businessman that stiffs his contractors and puts "the working man" out of business?
I've posted that USA Today link probably a dozen times on this board in the middle of active convos and NOT ONE Trump supporter has contested its findings or defended Trump's actions. NOT a single time. Not once. They've ignore it, acting like it never happened.
Speaks volumes.
Trump's company reps did not walk into the contractors office and put a gun to the owners head and tell him/her he/she will do business with the Trump company and the Trump company may or may not pay him/her.
No, the contractor agreed to do business with the Trump company because the contractor thought is was a good deal at the time and would benefit the contractor.
Obviously extending credit was part of the deal. The contractor knew or should have known that the Trump company and not Donald Trump personally was responsible for the debts. All well run businesses have allowances for bad debts included in their business plans. Most all businesses eat bad debts every year. It is part of doing business. Not all business deals work out. The contractor knew his/her risk and still decided to provide services to the Trump company. The deal didn't work out this time. Both parties knew what they were getting into.
Now, if Trump personally guaranteed the debts of the Trump company and then didn't pay up, I would have a different opinion of him. It has not been stated that he personally guaranteed these debts so it looks like almost any normal business deal to me.
By the way, how many small businesses got stiffed in the Solyndra catastrophe? I'm sure all lefties don't want to talk about that deal that imploded under Obama's watch.
The vultures are waiting to pick the scraps of that Ahole’s mess.
Apple and Ford both being speculated as potential buyers.
If there was anything there, Meuller would have found it.
Another one million illegals expected to cross the border this year, to join the twenty-two million already here, as a growing population of nearly 600,000 Americans sleep on the street every day. Most of them in dem controlled cities.
Meanwhile the dems distract the pathetic pussies from all of this, with their tax returns side show.
Shameful dems are more interested in bringing in illegals, than helping homeless Americans.
100% of the illegals who arrive with children are given work permits to compete against US workers, for jobs, resources, housing and food.
Quote: TankoImpossible to believe that during a twenty-two month long fishing expedition, Meuller’s hit team of eighteen Trump despising democrat lawyers, who issued 2,800 subpoenas, and interviewed 500 witnesses, never saw every one of Trump’s tax returns for the past thirty years.
If there was anything there, Meuller would have found it.
Another one million illegals expected to cross the border this year, to join the twenty-two million already here, as a growing population of nearly 600,000 Americans sleep on the street every day. Most of them in dem controlled cities.
Meanwhile the dems distract the pathetic pussies from all of this, with their tax returns side show.
Shameful dems are more interested in bringing in illegals, than helping homeless Americans.
100% of the illegals who arrive with children are given work permits to compete against US workers, for jobs, resources, housing and food.
There were really only 2 things wasted.
Years of investigation into Hillary's emails which produced nothing (except Trump using his personal and unprotected cell phones to disseminate vital secrets to the Russians.
And a republican controlled congress that for 2 years was able to do nothing about immigration or health care
Quote: darkozThere were really only 2 things wasted.
Years of investigation into Hillary's emails which produced nothing (except Trump using his personal and unprotected cell phones to disseminate vital secrets to the Russians.
And a republican controlled congress that for 2 years was able to do nothing about immigration or health care
What needs done with HC?
I thought the criminal Obama fixed all that with his “signature “ accomplishment?
Quote: BozWhat needs done with HC?
I thought the criminal Obama fixed all that with his “signature “ accomplishment?
What are you mumbling about?
Quote: darkozYears of investigation into Hillary's emails which produced nothing (except Trump using his personal and unprotected cell phones to disseminate vital secrets to the Russians.
She deleted 30,000 e-mails, bleach bit her hard drives, smashed her phones with a hammer, lied to Congress, and Comey couldn’t find anything to charge her with.
How about starting with obstruction of justice?
Quote:And a republican controlled congress that for 2 years was able to do nothing about immigration or health care
Sixty votes in the Senate are required for immigration reform. No need for any dems to sign up since the current system works in their favor. Never mind the burden on flat broke cities and the tax payers. Party before nation and the people.
They fell one sabotaging RINO vote shy of repealing Obamacare, which doomed any chance of healthcare reform, which requires bipartisan support.
Quote: darkozWhat are you mumbling about?
Just enjoying my Obamacare $2500 savings that he gave the average family.
The criminal part comes from the crack he smoked while the limo driver s&@&&d him off.
Quote: darkoz
Years of investigation into Hillary's emails which produced nothing (except Trump using his personal and unprotected cell phones to disseminate vital secrets to the Russians.
The emails that got several of our agents killed?
The emails that let any foreign nation with half a hacker see secret State Dept emails?
Those emails?
I love how liberals pretend Hillary's emails were "nothing" yet want to see Trump's taxes. I have to wonder if they worked a day in a job where email security and confidentiality was required.
When the reality is you give the average liberal a million dollars, they still will be broke in time. Instead of making good business decisions, they would live it up thinking the government will be there to make it all better. Or they would end up homeless in the streets, eating from trash cans, leeching off others. Oh wait, that is liberalism at its core.
And that’s why they hate Trump. He is smarter and a better businessman that most people.
Quote: AZDuffmanThe emails that got several of our agents killed?
The emails that let any foreign nation with half a hacker see secret State Dept emails?
Those emails?
I love how liberals pretend Hillary's emails were "nothing" yet want to see Trump's taxes. I have to wonder if they worked a day in a job where email security and confidentiality was required.
You obviously know more about these things than I do. Please tell me about the agents that were killed because of her emails? Evidently the main stream media is ignoring it.
Quote: BozThey want to see Trump’s taxes because to the average liberal he must has cheated to get to where he is. They don’t believe people can succeed without cheating.
When the reality is you give the average liberal a million dollars, they still will be broke in time. Instead of making good business decisions, they would live it up thinking the government will be there to make it all better. Or they would end up homeless in the streets, eating from trash cans, leeching off others. Oh wait, that is liberalism at its core.
And that’s why they hate Trump. He is smarter and a better businessman that most people.
Plus we all know they want to make a repeat of Romney and Bain Capital. He took this deduction. He closed this unit. Yadda, yadda, yadda. We already have seen that they do not even understand loss carry forward/carry back. They act like doing this is a criminal act.
From the beginning, Trump has not played by their rules. GOP candidates until now have, and they keep losing because of it. They do not know how to deal with it. "Hey, he actually defended himself when a woman challenged him! He can't do that!"
Quote: TankoImpossible to believe that during a twenty-two month long fishing expedition, Meuller’s hit team of eighteen Trump despising democrat lawyers, who issued 2,800 subpoenas, and interviewed 500 witnesses, never saw every one of Trump’s tax returns for the past thirty years.
If there was anything there, Meuller would have found it.
Another one million illegals expected to cross the border this year, to join the twenty-two million already here, as a growing population of nearly 600,000 Americans sleep on the street every day. Most of them in dem controlled cities.
Meanwhile the dems distract the pathetic pussies from all of this, with their tax returns side show.
Shameful dems are more interested in bringing in illegals, than helping homeless Americans.
100% of the illegals who arrive with children are given work permits to compete against US workers, for jobs, resources, housing and food.
I think you're coming to a false conclusion.
A. Mueller had a VERY narrow scope of inquiry. Depending on the circumstances, it's likely that if he DID find the money laundering or other fraud that is suspected, it was not within the scope of the inquiry. That evidence is more likely to have been passed to another party for prosecution, such as SDNY.
If that info was passed, it would most likely be part of the redactions under active investigations. So it's not that likely we'll see it any time soon. But there are
at least 6 other investigations proceeding, as well as the confirmation post-Mueller that his grand jury is continuing to work. So it's far from over, just still sealed from the public.
B. If he DID find tax issues within the scope of his inquiry, it's likely to be among the redacted info, because Mueller was working under the constraint of not indicting a sitting President. If so, it will come out eventually.
Or, c, you're correct and he didn't find anything within the tax records. That seems unlikely.
D, that Mueller didn't see Trump's taxes, is by far the most unlikely. He had 8 or more forensic accountants on the payroll for months. There was a reason for that.
Quote: billryanYou obviously know more about these things than I do. Please tell me about the agents that were killed because of her emails? Evidently the main stream media is ignoring it.
The right Resorting to fake news.
Seeing connections that are not there with liberals
Unable to see connections with con artists right in front of their face
Russian troll factories on WOV for Trump
Yawn
Quote: beachbumbabsI think you're coming to a false conclusion.
A. Mueller had a VERY narrow scope of inquiry.
Really? From the appointment letter for the special counsel. Mueller is allowed to investigate:
"any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"
To me this does not seem to be a "VERY narrow scope of inquiry".
Also, after the start of the investigation, Rosenstein expanded Mueller’s investigation with additional letters.
Have you seen these "additional letters" which expanded the investigation??
Quote: FleaswatterReally? From the appointment letter for the special counsel. Mueller is allowed to investigate:
"any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"
To me this does not seem to be a "VERY narrow scope of inquiry".
Also, after the start of the investigation, Rosenstein expanded Mueller’s investigation with additional letters.
Have you seen these "additional letters" which expanded the investigation??
It doesnt cover matters that rise INdirectly from the investigation so yes very narrow
Its so narrow minded that the investigation could be labeled conservative
Quote: darkozQuote: FleaswatterReally? From the appointment letter for the special counsel. Mueller is allowed to investigate:
"any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"
To me this does not seem to be a "VERY narrow scope of inquiry".
Also, after the start of the investigation, Rosenstein expanded Mueller’s investigation with additional letters.
Have you seen these "additional letters" which expanded the investigation??
It doesnt cover matters that rise INdirectly from the investigation so yes very narrow
Its so narrow minded that the investigation could be labeled conservative
Keep insulting Conservatives if it makes you feel better.
Meanwhile you are the definition of a conservative in your mind. Running a “business”, making money off the backs and others hard work on your “feared” team.
While you sit back, and when your not getting robbed, being the man Sheena Easton dreamed of.
Quote: BozQuote: darkozQuote: FleaswatterReally? From the appointment letter for the special counsel. Mueller is allowed to investigate:
"any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation"
To me this does not seem to be a "VERY narrow scope of inquiry".
Also, after the start of the investigation, Rosenstein expanded Mueller’s investigation with additional letters.
Have you seen these "additional letters" which expanded the investigation??
It doesnt cover matters that rise INdirectly from the investigation so yes very narrow
Its so narrow minded that the investigation could be labeled conservative
Keep insulting Conservatives if it makes you feel better.
Meanwhile you are the definition of a conservative in your mind. Running a “business”, making money off the backs and others hard work on your “feared” team.
While you sit back, and when your not getting robbed, being the man Sheena Easton dreamed of.
I argue its your own comments that are insulting to true conservatives.
I dont understand the reference to making money off others hard work. I do have a team. They do work hard. And they will be first to tell you I pay very well.
But certainly a major democratic ideal is not to have businesses without employees. I am quite certain there are plenty of democratic supporting business owners
Perhaps you are just blind to democratic ideals
Quote: BozHe is smarter and a better businessman that most people.
I am both smarter and a better businessman than Trump. Most people in this forum probably are as well.
Quote: TigerWuI am both smarter and a better businessman than Trump. Most people in this forum probably are as well.
You have built a multi billion dollar business? Please share details!
Quote: AZDuffmanYou have built a multi billion dollar business? Please share details!
I dont count theft, fraud and tax evasion.
There are plenty of criminals who are rich. I suppose to you that makes them smart.
Way to go party of law and order
MACA
Make America Criminal Again
I would put the intelligence of the Wizard up against Donald Trump any day.
The Wizard probably has a pittance compared to Trump financially. Wealth is no indicator of intelligence sorry to say
Quote: AZDuffmanYou have built a multi billion dollar business? Please share details!
The point is, that Trump hasn't. He's put up an illusion and lived high and loud for decades, while losing billions and bankrupting companies.
He lives off borrowed funds. He doesn't donate to charities that are in his name. He puts on lying presentations to investors. He doesn't pay his labor or contractors.
He has had, at most, 25 employees at any given time, but he puts his name on businesses and then claims some ownership or connection beyond the licensing, and 10s of thousands of employees. He screws over his partners in business, and his biggest business is suing and being sued, for everything from fraud to non-payment.
It's part of why those of us who see through him don't understand the attraction for those who don't. He lies about EVERYTHING. It's all a sham.
Nobody has to believe me. Listen to the interviews out there with his past secretary, past chief of staff for his businesses, partners left stuck, suppliers and contractors stiffed, people who have left this Administration, thousands of others. There's tons of evidence he's a fraud.
Yes, he spelled it Bidan.
I guess “Sleepy Joe Biden” wasn’t getting the traction he wanted.
EDIT: here’s the tweet, it’s just too good not to share. Imagine being delusional enough to truly believe this man is stable or intelligent. That must be some STRONG Kool-Aid.
Notice the extra space between Joe and Bidan. lol
Quote: darkozI dont count theft, fraud and tax evasion.
There are plenty of criminals who are rich. I suppose to you that makes them smart.
Way to go party of law and order
MACA
Make America Criminal Again
I would put the intelligence of the Wizard up against Donald Trump any day.
The Wizard probably has a pittance compared to Trump financially. Wealth is no indicator of intelligence sorry to say
And I’d take you over the average homeless bum for intelligence. I’d also take the Wizard over almost anyone, so that’s not exactly a fair comparison.
Raise a bunch of money. Take some for yourself. Fail spectacularly, protected by bankruptcy laws and by short-paying vendors (settling for less). Profit.
Quote: BozAnd I’d take you over the average homeless bum for intelligence. I’d also take the Wizard over almost anyone, so that’s not exactly a fair comparison.
Glad I finally convinced you
Quote: Dalex64Trump's business plan is "other people's money"
If this is news to you, then you need to learn more about how business works. Virtually every large business is based on OPM. I would wager that if you own your house you bought it with OPM. Most new cars are bought with OPM.
What separates a successful businessman like Trump from your average ham and egger is that instead of using OPM to buy a car that goes down in value, Trump uses OPM to buy assets that generate revenue. Why do people have a problem with a man making an honest profit?
Quote: darkozI dont count theft, fraud and tax evasion.
Good. Because Trump has committed no fraud and he has evaded no taxes. So when you build a multi-billion dollar business then I will consider your argument for being a better businessman than he is.
Quote:I would put the intelligence of the Wizard up against Donald Trump any day.
The Wizard probably has a pittance compared to Trump financially. Wealth is no indicator of intelligence sorry to say
Not sure why this enters the conversation.
Trump comes off as very intelligent. You don't make billions by being stupid.
Quote: AZDuffmanGood. Because Trump has committed no fraud and he has evaded no taxes. So when you build a multi-billion dollar business then I will consider your argument for being a better businessman than he is.
Not sure why this enters the conversation.
Trump comes off as very intelligent. You don't make billions by being stupid.
Trump does not come off as very intelligent and he did make billions by being a thief, con man and tax fraud.
Deny it and you are wrong.
Blabber the opposite and you are wrong.
Say that I am wrong and you are wrong.
Nothing you say will be correct.
I think that pretty much covers any answer you give.
Sadly what I wrote above is true
As true as climate change. (Your denial of that and scientists findings proves even further how wrong you are)
Anyone who thanks your answers are also wrong :)
Quote: darkozTrump does not come off as very intelligent and he did make billions by being a thief, con man and tax fraud.
Deny it and you are wrong.
Blabber the opposite and you are wrong.
Say that I am wrong and you are wrong.
Nothing you say will be correct.
I think that pretty much covers any answer you give.
Sadly what I wrote above is true
As true as climate change. (Your denial of that and scientists findings proves even further how wrong you are)
Anyone who thanks your answers are also wrong :)
Please cite Trump's tax fraud.
It seems you think making money makes one a con man so I will not wast my time asking.
Anyone who is intelligent should at the least question and at best deny climate change. The scientist's "findings" have been wrong every time.
Please cite Trump's tax fraud.
Seriously, if the IRS did not find it, how did you?
Quote: AZDuffmanPlease cite Trump's tax fraud.
It seems you think making money makes one a con man so I will not wast my time asking.
Anyone who is intelligent should at the least question and at best deny climate change. The scientist's "findings" have been wrong every time.
Please cite Trump's tax fraud.
Seriously, if the IRS did not find it, how did you?
There is enough evidence jncluding testimony such as Michael cohen (I know your answer cant believe him even under oath)
But there is your problem.
Scientists say global warming- you say dont believe experts.
Michael Cohen says tax fraud was done you say dont believe it.
Oh, suddenly there is one body of people you have 100% absolutely no qualm about believing - the IRS?
Oh right, because believing the IRS cant be wrong helps you keep trumps taxes and tax fraud out of the public view.
Can scientists be wrong about climate change. Yes, its possible
Now admit the IRS could have missed due diligence on trumps tax returns. (Dont say they are auditing him. The audit that never ends. There has been demonstrably less proof trump is even under audit than there is scientific findings of global warming)
You just dont want to believe or conduct any investigation into anything that doesnt fit your beliefs or support your candidate
Quote: AZDuffmanPlease cite Trump's tax fraud.
It seems you think making money makes one a con man so I will not wast my time asking.
Anyone who is intelligent should at the least question and at best deny climate change. The scientist's "findings" have been wrong every time.
Please cite Trump's tax fraud.
Seriously, if the IRS did not find it, how did you?
My guess is that darkoz doesn't know the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance.
Quote: wellwellwellMy guess is that darkoz doesn't know the difference between tax evasion and tax avoidance.
Well lets see
In your opinion if you have a property worth lets say $30 million and you claim its only worth $15 million so your taxes on the property are affected in your favor...
Would you classify that as tax evasion or tax avoidance?
I think we are all curious what your opinion is here.
It is neither. Your example concerns property tax, not income tax. Do you prepare either?Quote: darkozIn your opinion if you have a property worth lets say $30 million and you claim its only worth $15 million so your taxes on the property are affected in your favor...
Would you classify that as tax evasion or tax avoidance?
I think we are all curious what your opinion is here.
Are you stating that the taxpayer gets to claim what the property is worth for property tax purposes?
That is not how it works.
The taxing authority sets the market/appraised value of the property. The property owner can protest that valuation and if successful have the valuation reduced.
A quick Google of NYC property tax rules shows this........
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/finance/taxes/property-calculating-your-annual-tax-blll.page
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/finance/taxes/property-assessments.page
Quote: wellwellwell.You are so funny darkoz.
Are you stating that the taxpayer gets to claim what the property is worth for property tax purposes?
That is not how it works.
The taxing authority sets the market/appraised value of the property. The property owner can protest that valuation and if successful have the valuation reduced.
A quick Google of NYC property tax rules shows this........
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/finance/taxes/property-calculating-your-annual-tax-blll.page
https://www1.nyc.gov/site/finance/taxes/property-assessments.page
I am not a tax expert
What has been testified to by Michael cohen is that using inflated and deflated assessments for the same property Trump either used those to gain loans he would not have qualified for (bank fraud) or used those to defraud uncle sam on his taxes.
How it works is not for me to understand. What is important is that these accusations be investigated.
There is US law that dictates congressional oversight in tax matters. This law states tax information must be handed over to this congressional committee (mnuchin has refused)
Clearly with this law written, there was congressional opinion that the IRS needed oversight (the law is almost 100 years old and has been used many times) so the argument that the IRS should have caught any shenanigans goes out the window.
Which brings me back to original question. If there was some method of under-reported assets, property for example that did result in a means of lowered taxes... would you consider that tax evasion or tax fraud
Perhaps the way I describe it is not exactly how the scam works but in general what is your opinion
This should help.
If you feel all of the things asserted in that article are just tax avoidance let me know.
Quote: darkozI am not a tax expert
Then you shouldn't be accusing anyone of tax evasion.
Quote: darkozWhat has been testified to by Michael cohen is that using inflated and deflated assessments for the same property Trump either used those to gain loans he would not have qualified for (bank fraud) or used those to defraud uncle sam on his taxes.
Do you really think the banks just took his word for the valuations? No, they most likely had their own appraisals done.
Do you think the IRS through audit procedures can't figure out the correct values his tax attorneys and accountants used. Or do you think Trump himself fires up a version of Turbotax Deluxe the night before April 15 each year and fills out his own return?
Quote: darkozWhich brings me back to original question. If there was some method of under-reported assets, property for example that did result in a means of lowered taxes... would you consider that tax evasion or tax fraud
I explained how property tax values are basically calculated. There is no method of "under-reported assets".
Explanations of trusts and Form 709 are easily accessible.Quote: darkozhttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
This should help.
If you feel all of the things asserted in that article are just tax avoidance let me know.
Quote: wellwellwellThen you shouldn't be accusing anyone of tax evasion.
Do you really think the banks just took his word for the valuations? No, they most likely had their own appraisals done.
Do you think the IRS through audit procedures can't figure out the correct values his tax attorneys and accountants used. Or do you think Trump himself fires up a version of Turbotax Deluxe the night before April 15 each year and fills out his own return?
I explained how property tax values are basically calculated. There is no method of "under-reported assets".
So you didnt read the article lol.
Here it is again https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
Quote: SanchoPanzaExplanations of trusts and Form 709 are easily accessible.
That doesn't answer the question I asked
Quote: wellwellwellThen you shouldn't be accusing anyone of tax evasion.
Do you really think the banks just took his word for the valuations? No, they most likely had their own appraisals done.
Do you think the IRS through audit procedures can't figure out the correct values his tax attorneys and accountants used. Or do you think Trump himself fires up a version of Turbotax Deluxe the night before April 15 each year and fills out his own return?
I explained how property tax values are basically calculated. There is no method of "under-reported assets".
You are trying to reason with someone that thought it was a good idea to ride the subway for two years instead of working a real job, in order to have a roof over his head.
These people for some reason think Congress people can understand tax filings better than the IRS. They see what they want to see then label others with cult of personality disorders. It's basically projecting what they do on to the opposition. In other words, pretty much a waste of time trying to reason with logic. Good luck though.
