2020 Election
Quote: BozDoes anyone else find it strange that Hollywood liberals like Alec Baldwin seem to think using homosexual slurs is OK?
Very telling.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/05/01/alec-baldwin-declares-lindsey-graham-trumps-fluffer/
Not strange. Ever notice how often it is when someone is not saying how great the gay lifestyle is the gays will say, "he says that because he is a closet gay!" They use being gay as a slur despite being upset about it. Happens often.
Quote: AZDuffmanNot strange. Ever notice how often it is when someone is not saying how great the gay lifestyle is the gays will say, "he says that because he is a closet gay!" They use being gay as a slur despite being upset about it. Happens often.
No, it’s the ones who always try to argue that being gay is a “choice” who are usually the closeted ones.
Holy sh** Boz, you made me look it up.Quote: BozDoes anyone else find it strange that Hollywood liberals like Alec Baldwin seem to think using homosexual slurs is OK?
Very telling.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/05/01/alec-baldwin-declares-lindsey-graham-trumps-fluffer/
Quote: petroglyphHoly sh** Boz, you made me look it up.
Your google feed is about to get interesting!
Quote: ams288No, it’s the ones who always try to argue that being gay is a “choice” who are usually the closeted ones.
My point made for me. If there is nothing wrong with it why do gays scream when someone says it’s a choice?
Quote: AZDuffmanMy point made for me. If there is nothing wrong with it why do gays scream when someone says it’s a choice?
I can’t speak for all gays, but I find it enjoyable when so called “alpha males” freak out when they feel like someone is questioning their masculinity. If they were truly alphas who were secure with themselves, they’d just let it slide.
Quote: TigerWuWorking 112 hours a week in the United States is still probably a step up for millions of people around the world. I don't think that would be much of a deterrent. They'd probably look at your terms and say, "Oh, yeah? What's the catch?"
No catch. They’d serve their 1 year sentence in manual labor then they’d be released to wherever they’re from. The money they’d be raising for the govt via their work would help offset (if not make profitable) the border agents / ICE work, as well as their housing and 1/2 potato + 2 spoons of beans per day.
Quote: AZDuffmanMy point made for me. If there is nothing wrong with it why do gays scream when someone says it’s a choice?
Maybe because its not?
Did you choose to be straight or did it just happen?
Quote: darkozMaybe because its not?
Did you choose to be straight or did it just happen?
I choose to be straight. I’d never choose to be gay.
Quote: darkozMaybe because its not?
Did you choose to be straight or did it just happen?
It happened when I was born. We are all born straight. The rest is a choice.
If they did not think there was something wrong they would not scream they were born that way, they would just say that is how they choose to live that way. People not ashamed of themselves do not make excuses.
Quote: AZDuffmanIt happened when I was born. We are all born straight. The rest is a choice.
If they did not think there was something wrong they would not scream they were born that way, they would just say that is how they choose to live that way. People not ashamed of themselves do not make excuses.
Oh, stop there. You're just wrong, and about to get yourself into new rule territory fighting that battle.
Quote: RSI choose to be straight.
You do?!
So you could go either way but choose to be straight?
Fascinating. Explains a lot.
Quote: beachbumbabsOh, stop there. You're just wrong, and about to get yourself into new rule territory fighting that battle.
I will stop.
Please ask the rest to stop as well in the name of fairness.
I do not believe I am wrong.
I will agree to disagree.
Quote: ams288You do?!
So you could go either way but choose to be straight?
Fascinating. Explains a lot.
This would make a fascinating episode of Seinfeld.
How one guy when he hit puberty was attracted to both men and women and finally decided to choose women.
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Quote: ams288You do?!
So you could go either way but choose to be straight?
Fascinating. Explains a lot.
I’m not sure what you mean by saying it explains a lot....but then again, much of what you say is pretty far “out there”. 🤷♂️
Quote: darkozQuote: ams288You do?!
So you could go either way but choose to be straight?
Fascinating. Explains a lot.
This would make a fascinating episode of Seinfeld.
How one guy when he hit puberty was attracted to both men and women and finally decided to choose women.
Lolwut? Were you first attracted to girls when you hit puberty? 🤦♂️
Quote: RSQuote: ams288You do?!
So you could go either way but choose to be straight?
Fascinating. Explains a lot.
I’m not sure what you mean by saying it explains a lot....but then again, much of what you say is pretty far “out there”. 🤷♂️Quote: darkozQuote: ams288You do?!
So you could go either way but choose to be straight?
Fascinating. Explains a lot.
This would make a fascinating episode of Seinfeld.
How one guy when he hit puberty was attracted to both men and women and finally decided to choose women.
Lolwut? Were you first attracted to girls when you hit puberty? 🤦♂️
Yep
I'm not buying that. Even if people are technically born straight they certainly don't have a choice about what sex they are attracted to. They only have a choice to act on it or not.Quote: AZDuffmanWe are all born straight
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Blast from the past. This always cracks me up. " I don't like menZ no more, I like womens women women women women ulalallalalalal"
You don't co-sign evil.
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You don't co-sign evil.
Lol @ just staying home instead of voting for the less-bad candidate. He's essentially saying if you don't 100% agree with everything a candidate does and stands for, you shouldn't vote for that person. Guess what -- if that was the standard and everyone did that, there'd be far fewer votes cast, close to zero. Why? Because unless you're a sheep/drone, you're probably not going to agree with someone on every subject. The "perfect candidate" doesn't exist for most people.
Quote: SteverinosYou don't co-sign evil.
A whole lot of people saw evil in the Clintons.
Clinton is still running around saying she got "robbed"...no, Hillary, you lost. It doesn't matter if you favor the Flying Spaghetti Monster Wheel of Decision giving us the outcome of the election, in the real world we us the Electoral College.
Quote: RonCClinton is still running around saying she got "robbed"...
You put robbed in quotes. Has Hillary actually ever used the word "robbed" when describing the outcome of the 2016 election, or are you making stuff up?
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You don't co-sign evil.
Lol @ just staying home instead of voting for the less-bad candidate. He's essentially saying if you don't 100% agree with everything a candidate does and stands for, you shouldn't vote for that person. Guess what -- if that was the standard and everyone did that, there'd be far fewer votes cast, close to zero. Why? Because unless you're a sheep/drone, you're probably not going to agree with someone on every subject. The "perfect candidate" doesn't exist for most people.
OF COURSE you won't agree with every candidate on every policy. Isn't that a given? That's not what he was saying...at all.
Quote: ams288You put robbed in quotes. Has Hillary actually ever used the word "robbed" when describing the outcome of the 2016 election, or are you making stuff up?
"Hillary Clinton says she has been telling candidates seeking the 2020 Democratic nomination that even if they run a perfect campaign, the election could be "stolen" from them, implying that was what befell her in 2016. "
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/06/hillary-clinton-warns-2020-democratic-candidates-stolen-election/1116477001/
Quote: RonCA whole lot of people saw evil in the Clintons.
Clinton is still running around saying she got "robbed"...no, Hillary, you lost. It doesn't matter if you favor the Flying Spaghetti Monster Wheel of Decision giving us the outcome of the election, in the real world we us the Electoral College.
The part about this that makes me laugh is Hillary is still complaining she was robbed almost 3 years later. Algore sued because he thought he was robbed. Yet we have Pelosi screaming that Trump will not accept the results of a close loss in 2020.
Why do people take the lefties seriously?
Quote: RonC"Hillary Clinton says she has been telling candidates seeking the 2020 Democratic nomination that even if they run a perfect campaign, the election could be "stolen" from them, implying that was what befell her in 2016. "
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/06/hillary-clinton-warns-2020-democratic-candidates-stolen-election/1116477001/
So, as I expected, she never said she was robbed.
World of difference between "stolen" and "robbed."Quote: ams288So, as I expected, she never said she was robbed.
Quote: SanchoPanzaWorld of difference between "stolen" and "robbed."
Yep.
I suspect if RonC was a journalist at "fake news" CNN and misquoted Hillary like that he'd be out of a job.
Quote: ams288Meanwhile, this idiot says the first two years of his term were “stollen.” At least Hillary would know how to spell stolen!
WTF
2 years stolen
Does this moron live another planet
Quote: ams288Yep.
I suspect if RonC was a journalist at "fake news" CNN and misquoted Hillary like that he'd be out of a job.
I guess you think that she is implying something other than her losing when she had the election in the bag. If you listen to her snippets on various outlets, you have obviously heard a very bitter person who still thinks that she should be President.
Perhaps if I said something bad about Hillary on CNN I would be out; I'd be celebrated if I provided fake news about someone else.
By his own claim he's had the two greatest years of any President in history. The greatest economy in history. Some of the best job numbers in history. His supporters say he's done more in two years than Obama did in eight. And he's still had plenty of time to golf, way more than Obama. He even claimed, for months on end, the Mueller investigation wasn't even about him (a fact which the letter appointing the Special Counsel actually supports). And to top it all off, the GOP dominated the government on the federal level (and most State levels) for those two years.
Sooooo.... wtf is he even talking about? WHAT was stolen?
Quote: RonCIf you listen to her snippets on various outlets, you have obviously heard a very bitter person who still thinks that she should be President.
If you listen to Trump on Twitter, you have obviously heard a very bitter person who still thinks that he should be President an extra 2 years
Quote: TigerWuI don't understand what Trump thinks was "stolen" from him, and what he "wants back."
By his own claim he's had the two greatest years of any President in history. The greatest economy in history. Some of the best job numbers in history. His supporters say he's done more in two years than Obama did in eight. And he's still had plenty of time to golf, way more than Obama. He even claimed, for months on end, the Mueller investigation wasn't even about him (a fact which the letter appointing the Special Counsel actually supports). And to top it all off, the GOP dominated the government on the federal level (and most State levels) for those two years.
Sooooo.... wtf is he even talking about? WHAT was stolen?
Did he get any prizes or awards, aside from various white nationalist's organizations.
Quote: rxwineQuote: TigerWuI don't understand what Trump thinks was "stolen" from him, and what he "wants back."
By his own claim he's had the two greatest years of any President in history. The greatest economy in history. Some of the best job numbers in history. His supporters say he's done more in two years than Obama did in eight. And he's still had plenty of time to golf, way more than Obama. He even claimed, for months on end, the Mueller investigation wasn't even about him (a fact which the letter appointing the Special Counsel actually supports). And to top it all off, the GOP dominated the government on the federal level (and most State levels) for those two years.
Sooooo.... wtf is he even talking about? WHAT was stolen?
Did he get any prizes or awards, aside from various white nationalist's organizations.
Why would anyone care if he did?
Quote: rxwineQuote: TigerWuI don't understand what Trump thinks was "stolen" from him, and what he "wants back."
By his own claim he's had the two greatest years of any President in history. The greatest economy in history. Some of the best job numbers in history. His supporters say he's done more in two years than Obama did in eight. And he's still had plenty of time to golf, way more than Obama. He even claimed, for months on end, the Mueller investigation wasn't even about him (a fact which the letter appointing the Special Counsel actually supports). And to top it all off, the GOP dominated the government on the federal level (and most State levels) for those two years.
Sooooo.... wtf is he even talking about? WHAT was stolen?
Did he get any prizes or awards, aside from various white nationalist's organizations.
Since his election:
Time Person of the Year 2016
Financial Times Person of the Year 2016
Honorary Doctor of Laws from Liberty University
Friends of Zion Award by the Friends of Zion Museum
Sports Journal Business Most Influential Person in Sports Business
Temple Coin featuring Trump from the Mikdash Educational Center in honor of Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the country's capital
Atlantic City Boxing Hall of Fame
Wounded Warrior Project Award
Collar of The Order of Abdulaziz al Saud from Saudi Arabia
Afghanistan Medal of Bravery, from the Afghan people by Logar Province
Quote: Steverinos
You don't co-sign evil.
Been my stance since the jump. But then I'm "wasting my rights" and "have no right to bitch" and am "part of the problem". Pah.
FWIW, I'm with Beau. And not for nothin', but within my social group it is a certain majority that most voted FOR Trump and also think he's a s#$%head. It's simply that the Dem option would have (in their view) caused them direct hardship.
There's a window here and I'm worried we won't jump while it's open. But I'm relieved to see movement, at least. Evidence that people "get it" and are aware of the going's on. People that are still stuck in their position of Good, and making efforts to steer us in that direction. He said with eloquence what I was trying to puke out before; you can't (shouldn't) fight fire with fire and engage in a race to the bottom. Your answer isn't to try to out Trump Trump, that way lies ruin. Now's the time we can take this whole s#$%storm by the balls and put the entire system on its head, if only we can stay pissed long enough.
Here's hoping.
And off topic add-on @Stever, I think it was you who threw "13th" out at me while we were arguing about guns. I just watched it Saturday. Alls I have to say is where that doc is considered, you are preaching to the choir.
Quote: G. WashingtonAll obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.
However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
And let us not forget...
Quote: G. WashingtonI have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.
This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.
Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight), the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.
It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.
There is an opinion that parties in free countries are useful checks upon the administration of the government and serve to keep alive the spirit of liberty. This within certain limits is probably true; and in governments of a monarchical cast, patriotism may look with indulgence, if not with favor, upon the spirit of party. But in those of the popular character, in governments purely elective, it is a spirit not to be encouraged. From their natural tendency, it is certain there will always be enough of that spirit for every salutary purpose. And there being constant danger of excess, the effort ought to be by force of public opinion, to mitigate and assuage it. A fire not to be quenched, it demands a uniform vigilance to prevent its bursting into a flame, lest, instead of warming, it should consume.
To paraphrase "Jerry's Car Reservation" - "See, you know how to *take* a stance, you just don't know how to *act* on it. And that's really the most important part of the stance, the acting. Anybody can just take them."
Quote: FaceNow's the time we can take this whole s#$%storm by the balls and put the entire system on its head, if only we can stay pissed long enough.
You obviously never appreciated how nasty it is when your computer operating system chokes out permanent error messages. The system is fUBAR and all that goes with it.
Or maybe I just don't understand the appreciation of chaos and all it brings.
But at least with a computer, at worst, you can buy a new computer.
Quote: RonC"Hillary Clinton says she has been telling candidates seeking the 2020 Democratic nomination that even if they run a perfect campaign, the election could be "stolen" from them, implying that was what befell her in 2016. "
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/05/06/hillary-clinton-warns-2020-democratic-candidates-stolen-election/1116477001/
I lean left more than right, but must ask: What the hell would Hillary Clinton know about running a, "Perfect," campaign?
I wouldn't know about it either, but I think I might start with allocating exactly ZERO of my resources to the State of Texas. I would allocate something very close to zero in Arizona.
Quote: AZDuffmanThe part about this that makes me laugh is Hillary is still complaining she was robbed almost 3 years later. Algore sued because he thought he was robbed. Yet we have Pelosi screaming that Trump will not accept the results of a close loss in 2020.
Why do people take the lefties seriously?
Probably because they've won the popular vote for a first-time Presidential election more than zero times since 1988.
Quote: AZDuffmanQuote: AZDuffman
Yet we have Pelosi screaming that Trump will not accept the results of a close loss in 2020.
Why do people take the lefties seriously?
Trump repeatedly claimed the 2016 election was rigged and refused to say that he would accept the results if he lost.
Why would 2020 be any different?
Quote: TigerWuTrump repeatedly claimed the 2016 election was rigged and refused to say that he would accept the results if he lost.
Why would 2020 be any different?
We see now it was rigged, and Trump was spied on with wiretaps. Kudos to him for not answering that gotcha question.
"Socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) embarrassed herself on Monday after she tried to attack Sen. Rick Scott's (R-FL) "critical thinking" abilities over comments Scott made but was unable to understand that Scott was being sarcastic." wireQuote: SanchoPanzaWorld of difference between "stolen" and "robbed."
Quote: ams288I suspect if RonC was a journalist at "fake news" CNN and misquoted Hillary like that he'd be out of a job.
Quote: Mission146I lean left more than right, but must ask: What the hell would Hillary Clinton know about running a, "Perfect," campaign?
2016 was an interesting contrast. Hillary thought she did everything right. She had the resume, even if it was mostly the same fluff as someone trying for admission to a selective college. She tested everything. Rumors of 80 tries to get "stronger together" as a theme. Every answer focus grouped to death. I forget if it was 2012 or 2016 when she had her people checking for the exact color pantsuit to wear to the debate, holding them up under the lights on the same stage. Even if it was 2012, you can imagine she did the same for 2016. She trusted research and "science" of campaigning to the end. Hire the best people and figure out what the people want to hear.
Trump flew by the seat of his pants. He understood the struggles of the working man, and he spoke to them. At one point in the primary season his biggest expense was MAGA hats. The other site even had a thread about how he did not care about "data."
The "perfect" campaign is like a "good pot" in poker. It is the one you win.
Quote: SanchoPanza"Socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) embarrassed herself on Monday after she tried to attack Sen. Rick Scott's (R-FL) "critical thinking" abilities over comments Scott made but was unable to understand that Scott was being sarcastic." wire
your link does not work, following is a valid link:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/46848/ocasio-cortez-attacks-senators-critical-thinking-ryan-saavedra
Quote: FleaswatterQuote: SanchoPanza"Socialist Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) embarrassed herself on Monday after she tried to attack Sen. Rick Scott's (R-FL) "critical thinking" abilities over comments Scott made but was unable to understand that Scott was being sarcastic." wire
your link does not work, following is a valid link:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/46848/ocasio-cortez-attacks-senators-critical-thinking-ryan-saavedra
Proof that liberals do not have a sense of humor, and liberal women really do not have a sense of humor. Look for her to keep getting baited more and more.
Quote: AZDuffmanProof that liberals do not have a sense of humor, and liberal women really do not have a sense of humor. Look for her to keep getting baited more and more.
I’d argue that she’s the one baiting you righties. Y’all are literally obsessed with her.
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Lol @ just staying home instead of voting for the less-bad candidate. He's essentially saying if you don't 100% agree with everything a candidate does and stands for, you shouldn't vote for that person. Guess what -- if that was the standard and everyone did that, there'd be far fewer votes cast, close to zero. Why? Because unless you're a sheep/drone, you're probably not going to agree with someone on every subject. The "perfect candidate" doesn't exist for most people.
OF COURSE you won't agree with every candidate on every policy. Isn't that a given? That's not what he was saying...at all.
I didn’t say that’s what he said. He says to just stay home instead of voting for the less-bad candidate.
