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October 8th, 2018 at 12:33:27 AM permalink
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WHO CARES about the 2020 FEDERAL election. Jesus Christ. You want proof of drone disease in this country, just look at all the Trump and federal election threads on this website. Where are all the STATE ELECTION threads? You know, the election that ACTUALLY matters and will affect 95% of your life going foward. If you actually read and understood your Constitution, you would know that, wouldnt you? You would know the federal government is very restricted in what they can do to each citizen in their respective states. You would know this was set up not by coincidence, but because our founding fathers knew the dangers of a central govt with too much power. You would also know that your state elected representatives will be the ones representing you in Congress, you know, the same Congress that actually MAKES and PASSES the laws, not some drone puppet President that cant do shit by himself. Sure, the President has his role, but it's military and foreign relations related and will affect your life very little going forward.

Honestly, my blood pressure cant take this anymore. How can every single person in this country be so uneducated about law and the Constitution. Oh I know, just look at the TV airwaves, social media, media in general, and the public school system. There's your answer. When 99% of the country can tell you what Kim Kardashian is up to and which celebrity cheated on who, but cant recite the Bill of Rights, then god help us all.



When 99% of the voters in this country think they can influence the outcome of a slot machine by rubbing the glass as the reels spin...

Oh crap, we're all in trouble!
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October 8th, 2018 at 12:57:39 AM permalink
I'm going to second the Wiz's prediction. Trump, the candidate, was correct when he said our economy was in a bubble. Unfortunately, he now takes the bait as president and claims responsibility for the seemingly thriving economy. As the fed continues to raise interest rates the bubble will finally deflate and Trump, along with his tax cuts, will be blamed. This will open the door for some sort of democratic socialist who promises the most "free" crap, definitely not another old white guy. Bonus prediction: ZK will have to start taking blood pressure meds.
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October 8th, 2018 at 2:29:42 AM permalink
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She is strong smart and probably scary to white old male republicans

Her questioning of kavanaugh was almost district attorney in your face

She has my vote



She looked like a fool on her questioning from what I saw. Asking questions that had nothing to do with the matter at hand, not accepting legit answers.
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October 8th, 2018 at 3:48:53 AM permalink
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She looked like a fool on her questioning from what I saw. Asking questions that had nothing to do with the matter at hand, not accepting legit answers.



Kavanaugh didnt have any answers.

Just kept repeating the question about who she was referring too. Usually a sign of guilt and an attempt not to perjure yourself while fishing for the smallest information you need to answe without admitting what you did

A pure childs tactic most mothers can see thru. Kamala saw right thru it

And yeah, from your reply, she already has you scared lol
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October 8th, 2018 at 5:38:05 AM permalink
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Kavanaugh didnt have any answers.



Because there was not a legit question, just loaded questions to try to make him look bad.

Scared that low information voters will put such an unqualified goof in power? Always! We had the same in 2008.
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October 8th, 2018 at 5:42:33 AM permalink
I re-read the questioning by Senator Harris and the responses. He said that he would take a polygraph if the committee wanted, that the FBI could investigate whatever the committee wanted, and she kept asking if he would call for further investigations. It isn't his call to make and why would he make it? He said he would do whatever the committee wanted.

Nothing short of him being removed as the nominee would have satisfied those against him. Not a single Democrat vote changed from the time he was nominated until the time of the vote. A couple of fence-sitters did not announce votes but they were pretty much politically expedient votes anyway--the calculation wasn't about what Kavanaugh may have done but what the impact on the election pending for each Senator would be. Manchin only voted "Yes" because the confirmation was a done deal and that would help him most in the election.

The transcript of her questioning:

HARRIS: Thank you. Judge Kavanaugh, have you taken a professionally administered polygraph test, as it relates to this issue?

KAVANAUGH: No, the ó Iíll do whatever the committee wants. Of course, those are not admissible in Federal court, but Iíll do whatever the committee wants, theyíre not admissible in Federal court because theyíre not reliable ó

HARRIS: Thank you ó thank you.

KAVANAUGH: As you know.

HARRIS: So youíve not taken one?

KAVANAUGH: Right.

HARRIS: All three of the women who have made sworn allegations against you have called for an independent FBI investigation in to the claims. Youíve been asked during the course of this hearing ó by four different members by my count, at least eight times today, and also earlier this week on national television whether you would call for the White House to authorize an FBI investigation.

Each time you have declined to do so. Now you know, I know you do ó that the FBI is an agency of men and women who are sworn and trained law enforcement who in the course of conducting background investigations on nominees for the Supreme Court of the United States and others, are charged with conducting those background investigations because they are sworn law enforcement and they have the expertise and the ability and the history of doing that.

So Iím going to ask you one last time, are you willing to ask the White House to authorize the FBI to investigate the claims that have been made against you?

KAVANAUGH: Iíll do whatever the committee wants, of course ó

HARRIS: And Iíve heard you say that ó

KAVANAUGH: The witness statements ó

HARRIS: But Iíve not heard you answer a very specific question thatís been asked, which is, are you willing to ask the White House to conduct an investigation by the FBI to get to whatever you believe is the bottom of the allegations that have been levied against you?

KAVANAUGH: The FBI would gather witness statements, you have witness statements ó

HARRIS: Sir, itís ó I donít want to debate with you how they do their business, Iím just asking are you willing to ask the White House to conduct such an investigation? Because as you are aware, the FBI did conduct a background investigation in to you, before we were aware of these most recent allegations. So are you willing to ask the White House to do it ó and say yes or no and then we can move on.

KAVANAUGH: Iíve had six background investigations over 26 years ó

HARRIS: Sir, as it relates to the recent allegations are you willing to have them do it?

KAVANAUGH: The witness testimonies before you know a witness who was there, supports that I was there ó

HARRIS: OK, Iím going to take that as a no and we can move on. You have said in your opening statement, you characterized these allegations as a conspiracy directed against you. Iíll point out to you that Judge ó Justice now, Neil Gorsuch was nominated by this president.

He was considered by this body, just last year. I did a rough kind of analysis of similarities ó you both attended Georgetown Prep, you both attended very prestigious law schools, you both clerked for Justice Kennedy, you were both circuit judges, you were both nominated to the Supreme Court, you were both questioned about your record ó the only difference is that you have been accused of sexual assault.

How do you reconcile your statement about a conspiracy against you with the treatment of someone who was before this body not very long ago?

KAVANAUGH: I explained that in my opening statement, Senator. Look at the evidence here, the calendars, look at the witness statements, look at Ms. Keyserís statement.

HARRIS: OK. And then, do you agree that it is possible for men to both be friends with some women, and treat other women badly?

KAVANAUGH: Of course, but the point Iíve been emphasizing and that is if you go back to age 14 for me ó you will find people, and not just people, lots of people who Iíve been friends with. Some of whom are in this room today, starting at age 14, women. And whoíve talked about my friendships with them through my whole life, and itís a consistent (ph) pattern all the way through.

Sixty-five women, who knew me more than 35 years ago, signed a letter to support me after the allegation was made because they know me, and they were with me, and we grew up together, we talked on the phone together and we went to events together. That is who I am.

What the people who worked with me in the Bush White House, the ó the women there, look at what Sarah Day said in CentralMaine.com. Look at the ó what the law clerks ó I have sent more women law clerks to the Supreme Court than any other federal judge in the country.

HARRIS: I only have a few seconds left and Iíll just ask you a direct question. Did you watch Dr. Fordís testimony?

KAVANAUGH: I did not. I plan toÖ

HARRIS: Thank you, I have nothing elseÖ

KAVANAUGH: Ö I plan toÖ

HARRIS: Ö Thank you.

KAVANAUGH: Ö I plan to. But I did not because I was preparing mine.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/09/27/kavanaugh-hearing-transcript/?utm_term=.7b99de2b5f65
rxwine
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October 8th, 2018 at 5:47:23 AM permalink
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Because there was not a legit question, just loaded questions to try to make him look bad.



What a weak argument. Can't handle questions like a boss, didn't deserve that high position.
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October 8th, 2018 at 5:52:54 AM permalink
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she kept asking if he would call for further investigations. It isn't his call to make and why would he make it?




BECAUSE that's what an innocent person would demand to clear their name. A full and complete investigation is the solution. WHY wasn't he for it if he was so ruined?
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October 8th, 2018 at 6:01:42 AM permalink
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BECAUSE that's what an innocent person would demand to clear their name. A full and complete investigation is the solution. WHY wasn't he for it if he was so ruined?



So saying that he would submit to whatever examination the committee determined was necessary is not enough? He should have jumped up and down and said "Gee, investigate me more...drag my family through more....I want more, ma'am"?

Ridiculous.

Not one Democrat would have accepted the investigation and voted "Yes" (excluding the politically expedient votes) no matter how long it took to do whatever a "complete" investigation would look like. There is no way to be 100% sure what happened 26 years ago. No one corroborated her story. The Democrats were "No" from before the hearing started...

They would be "No" if he had been removed as the nominee and replaced by another conservative.
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October 8th, 2018 at 6:07:31 AM permalink
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So saying that he would submit to whatever examination the committee determined was necessary is not enough? He should have jumped up and down and said "Gee, investigate me more...drag my family through more....I want more, ma'am"?

Ridiculous..



No, the guy presented himself as golden.. DID you see the promos for him with all those women vouching for the angel. HE couldn't lose, right?
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