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RonC
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October 8th, 2018 at 6:11:09 AM permalink
Politically, the Kavanaugh situation has been a loser for the Democrats so far. Though there are a lot of them fired up about it and protesting all over the place, most were probably already going to vote in the coming election. The actions of the Democrats--whether on purpose or just how it worked out--got Republicans back in the game. There are still lots of tough fights ahead and the Democrats will likely get the House, but Republicans are a lot more engaged today than they were a few short weeks ago.

The Democrats can do us all a favor and keep it in the news, including threatening impeachment. The longer they do that and grab the headlines with it, the less any of their positions on issues will be heard. Republicans thought impeaching Clinton would be a winner for them; it gave them a narrower margin in the House than they had going into that election.

We'll see which side stays awake until Election Day. People are fickle.

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October 8th, 2018 at 6:26:37 AM permalink
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She looked like a fool on her questioning from what I saw. Asking questions that had nothing to do with the matter at hand, not accepting legit answers.



There was no matter at hand. You knew the motivation never had anything to do with the allegations when the goalposts immediately moved from the unverifiable allegations potentially disqualifying to his demeanor while being railroaded being the disqualification.
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October 8th, 2018 at 6:31:38 AM permalink
RonC,

I agree with everything you said, except I think you’re not giving Manchin enough credit. He’s been bipartisan his entire time on the Senate, voted for cloture, voted for Gorsuch, employed both conservative and liberal policies as a Governor.

Like I said, a WV Democrat really is a very moderate Republican anywhere else.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to call the IRS and request they audit my entire tax history, so I can prove no wrongdoing. After I do that, I need to drive over to the police department and demand they tear everything out of the inside of my car and have a drug dog sniff the undercarriage so they know I’m not transporting any drugs.

Re: Democratic Issues. They have issues this year? Any idea what their stances are? I know, “Trump BAD,” is one, but is there anything else they stand for right now?
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October 8th, 2018 at 6:42:23 AM permalink
Is there a possibility that Trump may decide not to run again?

1. He doesn't seem to be enjoying himself as President.
2. He has cemented his brand by being President for one term. No advantage to his brand in being President for a second term.
3. Realistically he might lose the next election, which would hurt his brand and tarnish his legacy.
4. He doesn't like living in the White House or DC area.
5. He would like to return to actively run his business.
6. Campaigning is very hard unglamorous work.
7. He will be four years older than he was last time - and age is not "just a number." Your energy level declines, as does your overall health. Slowing down becomes progressively more attractive for most people as you age.
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October 8th, 2018 at 6:42:38 AM permalink
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RonC,

I agree with everything you said, except I think you’re not giving Manchin enough credit. He’s been bipartisan his entire time on the Senate, voted for cloture, voted for Gorsuch, employed both conservative and liberal policies as a Governor.

Like I said, a WV Democrat really is a very moderate Republican anywhere else.

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to call the IRS and request they audit my entire tax history, so I can prove no wrongdoing. After I do that, I need to drive over to the police department and demand they tear everything out of the inside of my car and have a drug dog sniff the undercarriage so they know I’m not transporting any drugs.

Re: Democratic Issues. They have issues this year? Any idea what their stances are? I know, “Trump BAD,” is one, but is there anything else they stand for right now?



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October 8th, 2018 at 6:43:33 AM permalink
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RonC,

Re: Democratic Issues. They have issues this year? Any idea what their stances are? I know, “Trump BAD,” is one, but is there anything else they stand for right now?



Look up the platform last election. Different emphasis is likely is all. Maybe one new issue to really focus on.
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October 8th, 2018 at 6:54:04 AM permalink
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Re: Democratic Issues. They have issues this year? Any idea what their stances are? I know, “Trump BAD,” is one, but is there anything else they stand for right now?



They are promising higher taxes and open borders if elected.
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October 8th, 2018 at 6:55:34 AM permalink
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They are promising higher taxes and open borders if elected.



Open borders? Cool! I’ll have to take a closer look!

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October 8th, 2018 at 7:23:49 AM permalink
Congratulations, Republican Party. 42 years ago this month, I registered with you. I have hung in with you during years of declining values, relevancy, greed, and corruption.

I still believe in being part of the conversation and fixing things from within, but there is no longer any shred of the party I joined there, no conversation we can have. And, once Trump is out of office, no party to sustain. Every reasonable, bipartisan, decent person has left or is leaving. Further, the party is villifying everyone still trying to inject a note of sanity or opposition to the goose-stepping mindless attacks and undermining.

So I'm gone. This morning I changed my registration to Democrat. Yuck. But there do seem to be at least a few people of reason and moderation left there. And increasingly, I agree with their stances in opposition to what the "Republicans" are doing and how they comport themselves.

Sadly, the time is coming where everyone must make a black and white choice. I think we are the closest we have been in post- Civil War history to losing it all. And 18% of this country forcing their extreme agenda on the rest of us is the powder keg. Not sure what will be the match. Maybe it's already lit.
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October 8th, 2018 at 7:29:43 AM permalink
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Congratulations, Republican Party. 42 years ago this month, I registered with you. I have hung in with you during years of declining values, relevancy, greed, and corruption.

I still believe in being part of the conversation and fixing things from within, but there is no longer any shred of the party I joined there, no conversation we can have. And, once Trump is out of office, no party to sustain. Every reasonable, bipartisan, decent person has left or is leaving. Further, the party is villifying everyone still trying to inject a note of sanity or opposition to the goose-stepping mindless attacks and undermining.

So I'm gone. This morning I changed my registration to Democrat. Yuck. But there do seem to be at least a few people of reason and moderation left there. And increasingly, I agree with their stances in opposition to what the "Republicans" are doing and how they comport themselves.

Sadly, the time is coming where everyone must make a black and white choice. I think we are the closest we have been in post- Civil War history to losing it all.



Well, you have not supported one thing the GOP stands for on this board that I have ever seen. You seem to hate Reagan. You seem to hate anyone popular with the party. You have supported everything the Democrat side says or does. You have attacked everything the GOP has done. Even with the GOP shift left over the last 20 years. You complain about "attacks" yet joined the party of trying to destroy Kavanaugh and making any kind of lowbrow attack on any conservative acceptable.

See you at the polls!
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