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February 14th, 2012 at 8:04:09 AM permalink
Also you need to remember the fact that I'm a female and that physiologically it's impossible for me to bulk up unless I'm actually doing competitive body building. I'm not worried about bulking up.
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February 14th, 2012 at 8:32:08 AM permalink
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I'm sure that's true HB, just don't bulk up. Muscle definately burns calories, but it also adds weight.



It also increases metabolism, which allows you to burn more calories 24 hours a day. When I've been on weight-lifting kicks I lost weight and was able to enjoy eating a lot more. Plus, muscle weight looks good.
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February 14th, 2012 at 1:29:15 PM permalink
If HB sticks to her exact low calorie diet, without wavering, then adding muscle will not cause her to gain weight. It will just mean that more fat is converted to muscle. If it helps her increase her metabolism then it will add to the weight loss, not take away from it. Most body builders gain weight because they add calories to their diet while working out.
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February 14th, 2012 at 1:55:55 PM permalink
Yes, I understand muscle is good for a zillion reasons, not least of which is helping burn even more calories just by having it. I was just suggesting that for the purposes of the bet, there is too much of a good thing. I never weight trained or changed diet or increased intake, but just my normal activities made my legs big enough that I weight almost 40lbs more than I look.

Just saying. Maybe I should stop doing that ;)
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February 14th, 2012 at 8:30:34 PM permalink
I do have to gloat. I went to see a chiropractor today due to my accident and when he asked me my weight and I told him 228 he told me he was surprised and that I didn't look like I weighed as much as 228. And I was wearing horizontal stripes! Go figure. And honestly during our conversation he seemed to be a bit flirtatious with me as well. Then afterwards the therapist who was doing my treatment told me I had "absolutely gorgeous eyes". The compliments are starting to pile on!! :D
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February 15th, 2012 at 9:42:18 PM permalink
Hello everyone. I'm Lawrence, HotBlonde's brother. I signed up for a membership on this forum specifically so I can join in on the challenge. I'm wanting a piece of the action. I'm going to put up $180 of my money... yes, against my own sister. I love her (and she knows that) but I have to say I've seen her too many times over countless years fall off the weight loss wagon. Do I think she can do it this time? Sure. Do I think she actually will? Probably not. But who knows, I could be wrong. And if I am I'll pay up. I may even fly all the way out to Vegas just for her weigh in. Thanks for having me and I'm curious to see how all of this turns out.
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February 15th, 2012 at 9:47:52 PM permalink
Quote: LarsLarson

Hello everyone. I'm Lawrence, HotBlonde's brother. I signed up for a membership on this forum specifically so I can join in on the challenge. I'm wanting a piece of the action. I'm going to put up $180 of my money... yes, against my own sister. I love her (and she knows that) but I have to say I've seen her too many times over countless years fall off the weight loss wagon.

Hey.
So, you want a piece of your sister? Are you an older brother?
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Do I think she can do it this time? Sure. Do I think she actually will? Probably not. But who know, I could be wrong. And if I am I'll pay up. I may even fly all the way out to Vegas just for her weigh in. Thanks for having me and I'm curious to see how all of this turns out.

We all are.
So then are you also saying she will hit her goal, collect the cash, but will be back to over 230lbs in 6 months?

Sounds like a good reality show series!
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February 16th, 2012 at 4:34:41 AM permalink
I thought for a moment you were the Lars Larson who was a lover of wine, women, poker and Cobol programming who is already in Vegas and wondered what you were doing in a weight loss thread. I'm sure your sister will win her bet though if her brother is going to be seeing the final weigh-in pose, its probably going to be tame.
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February 16th, 2012 at 6:19:37 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Add brother at $180 to win $20...

Wizard 1800
SOOPOO 1350
Switch 900
Golfbuddy 450
rdw4potus 450
AcesAndEights $450
lucyjr $180
Brother $180
FrGamble 90
sunrise089 90
Dad 45
ConsultantDave 100 for 0

Total $6085 to win $665

We broke the 6k mark!!!

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February 16th, 2012 at 9:59:41 PM permalink
So a friend of mine has offered to pay me a $143 reward on October 17th of this year, with no reward to him if I fail.

So now it's $6228 to win $665.

Wizard $1800
SOOPOO $1350
Switch $900
Golfbuddy $450
rdw4potus $450
AcesAndEights $450
lucyjr $180
LarsLarson $180
FrGamble $90
sunrise089 $90
HB's Father $45
ConsultantDave $100 for $0
Sami B. $143 for $0
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February 17th, 2012 at 12:24:56 AM permalink
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no reward to him if I fail.



Not even a great big hug?
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February 17th, 2012 at 7:11:04 AM permalink
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Not even a great big hug?

Sure. But if I fail HE will probably be the one hugging ME for consolation :(. Oh yeah, and if I win, not only is he giving me $143 reward but he'll also take me out to celebrate at a fancy restaurant in Beverly Hills! :-D
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February 17th, 2012 at 2:28:56 PM permalink
So today, Feb 17th, is EXACTLY 8 months till my October 17th weigh-in in Vegas.

I know it may be too soon to tell but who, by the way, is planning on attending my weigh-in?
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February 17th, 2012 at 3:08:36 PM permalink
What no live webcast?
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February 17th, 2012 at 3:10:52 PM permalink
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What no live webcast?

possibly, lol. i wouldn't know how to do that.
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February 17th, 2012 at 3:55:12 PM permalink
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I thought for a moment you were the Lars Larson who was a lover of wine, women, poker and Cobol programming who is already in Vegas and wondered what you were doing in a weight loss thread.



And I thought he was the infamous Lars Larson in Portland, Oregon, the controversial radio jock.

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February 17th, 2012 at 4:59:31 PM permalink
BTW did you see that article that says 29% of Japanese women are underweight? Twenty-four-year-old Shiho Aoki at 5 feet 1 and weighing 100 pounds, Aoki said she was considered "fat" among friends. "I had a child 8 months ago, but I've been struggling to lose weight ever since," Aoki told ABC News. "I'm very jealous of my friends who are skinny."
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February 17th, 2012 at 5:30:36 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

BTW did you see that article that says 29% of Japanese women are underweight? Twenty-four-year-old Shiho Aoki at 5 feet 1 and weighing 100 pounds, Aoki said she was considered "fat" among friends. "I had a child 8 months ago, but I've been struggling to lose weight ever since," Aoki told ABC News. "I'm very jealous of my friends who are skinny."

Asian women are natually very petite. The funny thing is oftentimes when I tell people that my goal weight is 134 at 5'8" people tell me, "Oh, no! That's too low of a goal!" For a female my height I should weigh between 122 and 164 pounds. And an even funnier thing is if you look at those sexy lingerie models in Maxim or Victoria Secrets that guys drool over, and even the Playboy Playmates, girls my height are around 110 pounds. Marissa Miller is my height and 110 pounds and is considered a "model" for women. Go figure.
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February 19th, 2012 at 2:39:50 AM permalink
Ok, HB... is your friend who put up $143 in the regular betting pool to make it to 160.8, or do you have to make it to 143 lbs for him to pay off? 143 seems like and odd number ( I guess it is an odd number) for someone to wager. Tomorrows weigh in... over under at 224.9. good luck...
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February 19th, 2012 at 4:30:15 AM permalink
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who is planning on attending my weigh-in?

Is the nude weigh-in taking place is The Valley or in Vegas?
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February 19th, 2012 at 7:32:56 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Ok, HB... is your friend who put up $143 in the regular betting pool to make it to 160.8, or do you have to make it to 143 lbs for him to pay off? 143 seems like and odd number ( I guess it is an odd number) for someone to wager. Tomorrows weigh in... over under at 224.9. good luck...

He's giving me $1 for every pound I lose from my original 277 pounds. He knew me when I was 277 pounds. I told him that my personal goal weight is 134, hence the $143 reward. My plan is to weigh 134 on my weigh-in date.

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Is the nude weigh-in taking place in The Valley or in Vegas?

Lol, I won't be weighing in nude but it will be taking place in Vegas. I will be wearing a bikini as to keep the number on the scale as low as possible.
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February 19th, 2012 at 9:14:01 AM permalink
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He's giving me $1 for every pound I lose from my original 277 pounds. He knew me when I was 277 pounds. I told him that my personal goal weight is 134, hence the $143 reward. My plan is to weigh 134 on my weigh-in date.



For accuracy, then, your friend is in for $117 as far as the HB challenge is concerned. You two have a separate agreement, not covered in the HB challenge, that he may give you MORE than the $117 if your weight loss exceeds the 90 pounds that is the cornerstone of the HB weight loss challenge. That additional $26 is earned AFTER you have successfully reached the HB challenge weight of 160.8 pounds. Looking forward to your weigh in and blog tomorrow......
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February 19th, 2012 at 10:28:13 AM permalink
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For accuracy, then, your friend is in for $117 as far as the HB challenge is concerned. You two have a separate agreement, not covered in the HB challenge, that he may give you MORE than the $117 if your weight loss exceeds the 90 pounds that is the cornerstone of the HB weight loss challenge. That additional $26 is earned AFTER you have successfully reached the HB challenge weight of 160.8 pounds. Looking forward to your weigh in and blog tomorrow......

Scott, he is paying me $143 on October 17th and it has everything to do with this weight loss challenge. It's $143, not $117.
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February 19th, 2012 at 10:45:51 AM permalink
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Scott, he is paying me $143 on October 17th and it has everything to do with this weight loss challenge. It's $143, not $117.



I thought he will be paying you 1dollar for each pound less than 277. Are you saying you only win the challenge if you make it to 134? I was pretty sure you expect to get paid at 160.8. Therefore, the challenge as agreed to is for 160.8. What he pays you outside of the challenge is between you and him. So which is it? Is the challenge to get to 160.8, or 134?
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February 19th, 2012 at 10:48:22 AM permalink
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I thought he will be paying you 1dollar for each pound less than 277. Are you saying you only win the challenge if you make it to 134? I was pretty sure you expect to get paid at 160.8. Therefore, the challenge as agreed to is for 160.8. What he pays you outside of the challenge is between you and him. So which is it? Is the challenge to get to 160.8, or 134?

The challenge says that I have to weigh 160.8 or LESS on October 17th. I don't have to weigh exactly 160.8 on that date. On October 17th my friend Sam is paying me $143.
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February 19th, 2012 at 10:55:24 AM permalink
But only if you weigh 134, correct? Or will he pay you 143 even if you weigh 160? If he will be paying you $143 if you weigh 160, then you are correct. If he will be paying you $143 only if you weigh 134, then you are incorrect. You will have won the HB challenge at 160, and he will have only paid you for the 117 pounds less than the 277 you were. I'll put up another $650 against your $150 that you wont be at 134 or less on October 17. Let me know if you are interested. And if we make that bet, I will still be rooting for you.....
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February 19th, 2012 at 10:58:45 AM permalink
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So a friend of mine has offered to pay me a $143 reward on October 17th of this year, with no reward to him if I fail.

So now it's $6202 to win $665 + $1 for every pound below 160.

Wizard $1800
SOOPOO $1350
Switch $900
Golfbuddy $450
rdw4potus $450
AcesAndEights $450
lucyjr $180
LarsLarson $180
FrGamble $90
sunrise089 $90
HB's Father $45
ConsultantDave $100 for $0
Sami B. $117 for $0 + $1 for every pound below 160



This is the corrected version, as Sami B will pay depending upon the exact weight.
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February 19th, 2012 at 11:05:27 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

But only if you weigh 134, correct? Or will he pay you 143 even if you weigh 160? If he will be paying you $143 if you weigh 160, then you are correct. If he will be paying you $143 only if you weigh 134, then you are incorrect. You will have won the HB challenge at 160, and he will have only paid you for the 117 pounds less than the 277 you were. I'll put up another $650 against your $150 that you wont be at 134 or less on October 17. Let me know if you are interested. And if we make that bet, I will still be rooting for you.....

He's paying me $143 on October 17th regardless of how much I weigh. He knows that my goal is 134 pounds so he will pay me then even if I need another week or two to get to 134.

If you put up $650 to win $150 those are terrible odds. My 90 pounds in 40 weeks is set at 9:1 odds, why would the ratio get smaller to get to 134??It's $6228 to win $665.

Wizard $1800
SOOPOO $1350
Switch $900
Golfbuddy $450
rdw4potus $450
AcesAndEights $450
lucyjr $180
LarsLarson $180
FrGamble $90
sunrise089 $90
HB's Father $45
ConsultantDave $100 for $0
Sami B. $143 for $0

It's still $6228 to win $665.
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February 19th, 2012 at 11:14:07 AM permalink
The ratio gets smaller because you have already shown the mettle to succeed!! After an event has started the odds of course change. Sami B. is really not betting against you, rather, he is really sponsoring you. But I'll leave him in the grid at $143. You of course do not have to take the new bet. It is just an option for you. So $665 risked to win $6228.
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February 19th, 2012 at 11:17:06 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

The ratio gets smaller because you have already shown the mettle to succeed!! After an event has started the odds of course change. Sami B. is really not betting against you, rather, he is really sponsoring you. But I'll leave him in the grid at $143. You of course do not have to take the new bet. It is just an option for you. So $665 risked to win $6228.

Why would the ratio get smaller? Isn't it more difficult to lose 117 pounds in 282 days then to lose 90 pounds in 282 days? You're not very good at setting odds.
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February 19th, 2012 at 11:25:29 AM permalink
As stated previously, it is what I'm offerring. You do not have to accept it. If you have another spectacular weigh in tomorrow I may withdraw the additional offer. The offer is good until you post your blog tomorrow.
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February 19th, 2012 at 11:28:51 AM permalink
Even at the original odds of 9:1 you'd have to put up another $1350 to win $150. Assuming the ratio got larger your bet would need to go up even more than that. If you want to put in a second bet equal to your first amount, such as the Wizard did, but as a separate bet to win $150 depending on whether or not I hit 134 pounds then I might consider that bet.
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February 19th, 2012 at 12:01:19 PM permalink
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As stated previously, it is what I'm offerring. You do not have to accept it. If you have another spectacular weigh in tomorrow I may withdraw the additional offer. The offer is good until you post your blog tomorrow.



Nothing has changed in the past few minutes...
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February 19th, 2012 at 1:30:57 PM permalink
Seeing u yesterday was awesome!! U look amazing! I am so glad u are sticking strong to ur goal and looking good babe :) can't wait to see the reults I know u will make it !!!
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February 19th, 2012 at 2:34:26 PM permalink
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Seeing u yesterday was awesome!! U look amazing! I am so glad u are sticking strong to ur goal and looking good babe :) can't wait to see the reults I know u will make it !!!



EH--- bet $45 against your buddy... HB says each bet against her gives her more motivation... you will be helping her cause with this tiny wager... you can still root for her while betting against her...
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February 19th, 2012 at 2:55:03 PM permalink
Anyone who does not pay up when HB wins will be dealt with severely. Not a threat, just stating a fact. I am assuming she will
need cosmetic surgery to tighten up flesh after a big weight loss in such a short time.
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February 19th, 2012 at 3:19:37 PM permalink
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Anyone who does not pay up when HB wins will be dealt with severely. Not a threat, just stating a fact. I am assuming she will
need cosmetic surgery to tighten up flesh after a big weight loss in such a short time.

I am planning on getting a breast lift for sure and will be using my winnings towards that. I may need a tummy tuck too and other nips and tucks too, who knows?
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February 19th, 2012 at 3:26:52 PM permalink
If you have read my posts on the WIZ"s Stratosphere climb you will know I am brutally honest at times. That said i have every confidence you will make your goal. Save your brother's money for your first night out gambling as the HOTTEST BLONDE !
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February 19th, 2012 at 3:49:06 PM permalink
I was asked to weigh in (pun intended) on the in-progress wager.

The official "HotBlonde Challenge" bet is to lose 90 pounds in 40 weeks. So that is 2.25 pounds per week. In the first five weeks HB has lost 22.6 pounds, or 4.52 pounds per week. A weekly progress report is expected tomorrow.

So, she is losing weight at twice the rate needed to. I think SOOPOO is trying to say that your odds of winning are looking good, and he is trying to get you to make a side wager for an even greater weight loss. The terms of the side bet would be a total loss of 117 pounds at -433 odds.

To make a comparison, the Patriots were about -130 favorites to win the Super Bowl. However, at the end of the first quarter the score was 9-0 Giants. If someone were to bet that game at that point then the Giants should be favored. To make a rough guess, about -220.

In my opinion, I think the odds should be sweeter than that for HB. Everyone knows that the closer you get to the bone the harder it is to lose weight. If I were in HB's shoes I would turn down that bet or negotiate better terms. How about one year to lose 117 at the same -900 odds?
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February 19th, 2012 at 4:01:58 PM permalink
Thanks for 'weighing' in, Wiz. HB has presented a grid showing how much she will lose, and has also commented that by adding a second workout towards the end she will be able to get down to the magic 134 number by October 17. She states she can do it. I am offering better than 4 to 1 that she can't. As she has proven so far she is one tenacious gal. This $650 I am willing to wager seems to me to be $650 more than anyone else. If she agrees with you (she does) then she can refuse the bet (which she has). I am not taking this 'lightly'. I have put 'heavy' thought into my offer. The fact that HB has told me how easy her diet and exercise regimen has been, that she loves her meals, that she looks forward to the workouts, all leads me to make my offer of 4.33 to 1. Since she feels she can make the lower weight, it seems she has two choices... add $650 at the odds I'm offerring, or not...... Unless you are considering a new wager with HB?
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February 19th, 2012 at 4:16:58 PM permalink
Those are good arguments why your offer is fair. However, it seems HB isn't interested so why belabor the point? Perhaps the two of us could make a side bet on whether she will achieve the original challenge. Care to make an offer on an in-progress price?
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February 19th, 2012 at 4:22:36 PM permalink
Quote: buzzpaff

Anyone who does not pay up when HB wins will be dealt with severely. Not a threat, just stating a fact.



So if it's not a threat. What do you mean exactly? Economic sanctions?
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February 19th, 2012 at 4:26:09 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Those are good arguments why your offer is fair. However, it seems HB isn't interested so why belabor the point? Perhaps the two of us could make a side bet on whether she will achieve the original challenge. Care to make an offer on an in-progress price?



If I understand you, you are asking one of us to hedge our bet! I'm not sure which way I'd bet. I'll revisit this after the weigh in tomorrow.
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February 19th, 2012 at 4:30:34 PM permalink
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If I understand you, you are asking one of us to hedge our bet! I'm not sure which way I'd bet. I'll revisit this after the weigh in tomorrow.



Good idea. I tend to think you'll be the one hedging, since you are so confident HB will win.
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February 19th, 2012 at 5:53:53 PM permalink
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Perhaps the two of us could make a side bet on whether she will achieve the original challenge. Care to make an offer on an in-progress price?

What does that mean? You guys will have a bet just between the two of you whether I'll get below 160.8 or not? I don't understand. And please don't insult me any more, SOOPOO, just because I don't understand basic gambling terms.
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February 19th, 2012 at 6:28:11 PM permalink
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What does that mean? You guys will have a bet just between the two of you whether I'll get below 160.8 or not? I don't understand.



Yes, that is what I was suggesting to SOOPOO. I hope that doesn't bother you.
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February 19th, 2012 at 6:46:14 PM permalink
HotBlonde Challenge is now number 8 on the top threads list....
Who wants to bet it will be number two by the time of the weigh-in...?
Better yet, who can name the date it becomes number two, without going over?
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February 19th, 2012 at 7:56:53 PM permalink
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Yes, that is what I was suggesting to SOOPOO. I hope that doesn't bother you.

No, that doesn't bother me at all. You can bet on whatever you like. I'm just a bit surprised that you would think that I wouldn't even hit the 160.8 pound goal. Granted, as of last Monday's weigh-in I still would have to lose over 67 pounds to get to 160.8 or below but I don't think of that as something hard to accomplish. Do you?
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February 19th, 2012 at 8:00:05 PM permalink
If the chances for anything are greater than 0% and less than 100% then there is some fair line for it. If two people disagree on the probability then a bet should be able to be agreed to.

Since you are so confident in winning the challenge, will you accept in-progress wagers at this point at even money that you won't?
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HotBlonde
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February 19th, 2012 at 8:01:56 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

If the chances for anything are greater than 0% and less than 100% then there is some fair line for it. If two people disagree on the probability then a bet should be able to be agreed to.

Since you are so confident in winning the challenge, will you accept in-progress wagers at this point at even money that you won't?

I'm not sure that would be fair to those people who put in a bet at 9 times the amount against me.
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