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HotBlonde
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January 9th, 2012 at 5:52:26 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

So we are saying:

HB doesn't make it: -900
HB makes if: +900

???

No, if I win you pay me $900, if you win I pay you $100
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Ayecarumba
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January 9th, 2012 at 6:00:12 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

How to start.... HB and I butted internet heads about weight loss, me saying it can be done if it is a priority, it being as simple (but not easy) as burning more calories than you take in. HB has told me that she is ready to make the grand effort, and she truly believes that she can lose 10 pounds per month. She stated that she can get from her current weight of 250.8 lbs to 160.8 lbs by October 17, by combining a strict diet and workout regimen. She believes that a monetary incentive would push her to her goal. I originally offerred to bet her $1199 (no IRS form) against her, with no real payment from her to me if she would fail. HB scoffed at my low amount, and suggested that $9000 would be enough to motivate her. She said she would put up $1000, which I told her I could not take. However, she was insistent and I came up with this idea which I will open up to forum members---- The first 10 members who put up $900 will either pay HB that $900 on October 17, or HB will pay each member $100 if she fails. The only stipulations are that she can not have any weight loss surgery nor use any diuretics. So, as any member is essentially laying 9 - 1 against HB, are any of you interested in betting against her? The Wiz and I are the first 2 'investors', and the next 8 that are serious will let me know via this thread. Regardless of the bet, I will be rooting very hard for HB to win this challenge. If I win my $100 will be donated to charity.



Is the target weight loss in the specified time "safe"? I would hate to book the action, only to have something bad happen to HB due to the pressure to meet what was actually an unreasonable goal. When I come across these "P90X", "Insanity" or "KarateKickBoxingWhatever" informercials, the disclaimer is always, "consult your physician before starting any weightloss regiment" Has HB's strategy been cleared?
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EvenBob
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January 9th, 2012 at 6:39:11 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

They talk about losing the first 10 pounds in five weeks. Not losing 10 pounds every 4 weeks for 9 straight cycles.



2 1/2 pounds a week is dangerous? Get real, they
lose way more than that on that TV show.
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JohnnyQ
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January 9th, 2012 at 6:57:05 PM permalink
Thermodynamically, I believe the relationship is
3500 calories = 1 lb.

So, if you can cut back on your current maintenance
food intake by 500 cal per day, you will lose 1 lb
per week.
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thecesspit
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January 9th, 2012 at 9:17:17 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

2 1/2 pounds a week is dangerous? Get real, they
lose way more than that on that TV show.



Over 9 months? I have no idea what they do on that TV show. I never watch it.

I do know that you shouldn't expect to sustain a weight loss of over 2lb a week for the medium term, from everything I've read on sustainable, life changing diets. After all. Not least as if combined with a physical programme your physical shape will start to change (for the better) which will slow down pure weight loss, and if it's from very limited calorie diet, then it's not sustainable.

I wish HotBlonde good luck with her comit to get fit, and hope she ends up where she wants to be 9 months.

I won't be taking the bet : I'm not into booking bets that large with unknown people, regardless if the value I perceive. I'm with pacomartin on how achievable the target actually is.

I suspect HB will be zooming down the weights past me quickly though.
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zippyboy
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January 9th, 2012 at 11:08:43 PM permalink
You don't need some emergency diet for these pounds, you need an entire lifestyle change. If you're the kinda person who got fat then you're probably not gonna just lose it like that. Sorry to be blunt, but exercise and good diet are a choice, just like TV and Häagen-Dazs are a choice. After a few years, you're that person to the rest of us and attract that kind of friends and jobs etc. Fat is like being poor, the longer you choose it, the longer you own it. How bad do you want to NOT be that person?

Good luck though HotBlonde. It'll be work. But I know we're all pulling for you....for your body to match your sweet face. For you to BE a HotBlonde again. Go!
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HotBlonde
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January 9th, 2012 at 11:29:49 PM permalink
Quote: zippyboy

Good luck though HotBlonde. It'll be work. But I know we're all pulling for you....for your body to match your sweet face. For you to BE a HotBlonde again. Go!

Thanks for the compliment. My goal is to be SuperHotBlonde but I AM a HotBlonde now. You don't have to agree with that but being heavy-set doesn't mean I've lost all my hotness.
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P90
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January 9th, 2012 at 11:39:35 PM permalink
While I've never been in a position to need weight loss, have to agree with the part about lifestyle. I once started gaining sort of a "managerial" look, not much extra weight, but the thought of that being the first stepping stone to getting fat scares the hell out of me. [I know some people consider it possible to be both hot and fat at once, I don't.] Attempts at dieting (that were impossible to maintain without alerting others to it, which I didn't want to do) and extra gym time didn't seem to reverse it, but at least I made sure it didn't progress, and eventually comfortably settled at looking somewhat more office-like.

Sometime later: After just two months in Asia, out of curiosity I stepped on one of those public scales they have. And, at that, discovered that my weight dropped to below what I calculated as the norm for my height and build. Thought the scale was off (I knew I had lost some, didn't think it was much), confirmed it later. Nothing impressive in terms of numbers, but it's the last pounds near normal weight that are supposed to be the hardest. And I didn't do anything to that end, no intentional dieting, no dedicated exercise, just came with the new life.
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FleaStiff
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January 10th, 2012 at 2:29:02 AM permalink
>being heavy-set ...
Well, let's be frank. I guess "heavy-set" is a good term to use. The question arises is this your natural physique, if so, why diet? Or is this the result of not quite having known how many calories were in champagne, tequilas, truffles and caviar?
If its a matter of over indulgence, then dieting and exercise monitoring should be fairly effective and fairly easy. A swimming pool or a treadmill or taking a dog for a walk can get your weight down. Parking a few rows more distant from your destination can be a great trick to play on yourself. Hikes in the woods, etc. Anything that gets you sustained activity rather than brief spurts of a work out or something.

As for dieting:
Reverse Lifestyle: Eat like a King at breakfast, a Prince at lunch and a pauper at dinner.
Pre-meal: glass of water prior to a meal or a plate of soup as a first course. (Usually results in 20 percent fewer calories).
Or do the usual low density food items. Pop corn w/o butter really will fill you up. Women often have a small plastic container of lettuce or stuff for lunch with a smaller vial of salad dressing of some sort to avoid the high calorie and high dollar lunch menus.

Its not hard ... just takes a little time.
P90
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January 10th, 2012 at 2:53:16 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Well, let's be frank. I guess "heavy-set" is a good term to use. The question arises is this your natural physique, if so, why diet?


There is a natural physique of being narrower or wider, shorter or taller. However there is no natural physique of being fat.

Frame size should not be used as an euphemism for obesity; it can be objectively measured. The usual measurement is based on wrist circumference. If your frame calls for a normal weight of e.g. 16 stones, you'll grow that way from childhood and look half-dead at weight of 10 stones. If you've ever been thin without being anorexic-ugly, you can know it's not normal for you to be heavier than others. Visually a person with a wide frame and one with a narrower frame and obesity, but with same weight and height, look completely dissimilar.
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