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January 17th, 2012 at 2:02:41 PM permalink
>>>> Let me know if you ever get to a newer lower level called the Panhandler level ...
>>>> Until then, good luck to you.
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Ok, Flea- just for you The Panhandler Level $45 to win $5 You in?


Regrettably I'm going to say no.
I have to put up 45 to win 5. Its probably gonna cost me 2 or 3 dollars in money order fees and stamps to even get the money to Stakeholder, Soopoo. And quite frankly, I think she is too determined to lose the bet. So ... I'm out, but feel free to keep the aptly named Bet Level in case there are some more adventurous paupers out there.
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January 17th, 2012 at 2:33:57 PM permalink
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Still time for others to follow FrGamble's example and get in on the action...



Since we're already in the challenge period, when does betting close? Just curious.
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January 17th, 2012 at 5:59:49 PM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

Since we're already in the challenge period, when does betting close? Just curious.



Your bet is confirmed, as are the others I've mentioned in a previous post. Any further bet will have to be approved by HB, as the challenge has already started, and quite well for HB, as per her blog. I sense that HB would still accept bets now up to the 9000 mark, but, lets say she weighs in in April at 230, then I would think she would not accept any more bets.
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January 18th, 2012 at 5:14:13 PM permalink
So, I guess I should ask this to those who are betting against me. If my nutritionist prescribes me medications or supplements that help in my weight loss efforts (but excluding diuretics which she probably wouldn't prescribe anyway) it's considered fair game if I take them along the way for the purposes of this bet, right?
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January 18th, 2012 at 5:16:11 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

So, I guess I should ask this to those who are betting against me. If my nutritionist prescribes me medications or supplements that help in my weight loss efforts (but excluding diuretics which she probably wouldn't prescribe anyway) it's considered fair game if I take them along the way for the purposes of this bet, right?



Interesting question. Personally I don't have a problem with it (even though I'm not betting). It takes a lot more than just supplements for lasting weight loss. It takes dedication. So I don't see a problem with supplements.
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January 18th, 2012 at 5:42:06 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

So, I guess I should ask this to those who are betting against me. If my nutritionist prescribes me medications or supplements that help in my weight loss efforts (but excluding diuretics which she probably wouldn't prescribe anyway) it's considered fair game if I take them along the way for the purposes of this bet, right?



The agreement was for no weight loss surgery and no diuretics. All other supplements are fair game.
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January 18th, 2012 at 5:52:54 PM permalink
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The agreement was for no weight loss surgery and no diuretics. All other supplements are fair game.

Okie dokie.
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January 19th, 2012 at 7:48:03 AM permalink
It's 39 degrees out and I'm riding my bike to the gym. Yikes! I guess it'll all be worth it in the end (I hope!).
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January 19th, 2012 at 9:37:49 AM permalink
I just HAD to share this tweet that Brian Tracy sent out this morning:

"Think continually in terms of the rewards of success rather than the penalties of failure." Love this and it's so fitting right now in regards to my challege!
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January 19th, 2012 at 11:55:45 AM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde
(previous quote from the thread entitled " Why do cheating men get married")

So I had to log on because I wanted to report that I asked a similar question in my OP to Byron Katie and got an answer from her just now. Katie sent out a Tweet at 6:00am this morning saying that she will be answering questions live at 10am PST (I have her on my speakers now and she is talking as I type). I replied back to her tweet with the question: "@ByronKatie Are men naturally not meant to be monogamous? I've never been married but am afraid that if I do he will one day cheat." Funny enough when she came on just now at 10 a.m. mine was the first question she answered!

I was trying my best to pay attention to what she was saying since this is an important question to me. It's too bad there is no way to rewind it or have a copy of this feed so that I can replay it. And plus it keeps pausing and pausing and it's hard to follow her answers all the way through without it continuously stopping.

Basically what I remember and what I wrote down from what she said was something along the lines of this: She said she doesn't know. She said something about have I ever strayed and have I ever been in a relationship and looked outside to other men who maybe I thought were better in whatever ways. She said where is my compassion for HIM? And that I am the same. She said that if anything moves her from a promise (such as the vows you make on your wedding day) then SHE needs to question what's going on inside of HER (she's all about personal responsibility and what is going on in ME, not anyone else). And one of the last things she said is that she takes care of her stuff and her husband takes care of his stuff.

That's what I got from what she just said. If any of you are interested in peeking in she is currently live and you can check her out now here:

Katie Live Now

So earlier this morning as I was finishing up my workout I got a tweet alert from Byron Katie that she would be doing another live broadcast at 10am PST and to send in any questions we might have for her. I took this opportunity again to ask my love and my mentor another question and quickly raked my brain to think of something that I really wanted to know from her. So I came up with this question and emailed it in:

"Hi Katie. I was wondering if The Work is usable for other things that don't necessarily bring about stressful FEELINGS. I believe that stressful feelings come up when things are out of balance with what is. But I was wanting to use The Work for things that seem out of balance but that don't necessarily cause me negative feelings such as my obesity. I don't have negative feelings about the yummy foods I eat but my body being so overweight tells me that things are out of balance."

And guess what?... she picked my question, AGAIN! How awesome that she was sitting right there on my computer talking directly to me, again! Surreal!

Anyway, she basically said that when you do the work on THE MIND that all other things fall into place. She said when she discovered and implemented The Work in her own life she noticed that several things quit her (rather than the other way around of her quitting these things). She said she herself was over 200 pounds and that she eventually found herself quitting fried foods, cigarettes, alcohol, etc., etc. because as her mind became clearer these things had no more use in her life and simply went away on their own. She said that what I weigh is not my business (she often says that there are 3 types of business: my, other people's, and God's), but what I THINK is my business. She said that if people say to me "You're fat" or whatever that that doesn't matter but that any unkind thoughts that I have about my body I can question. So to look at how I'm treating myself. And to question these thoughts without the intent to lose weight but to be my best friend. She says that when I do the turn arounds I may find that "what I want my body to look like" becomes "what I want my mind to look like". She mentioned about the MIND being beautiful, flexible, young. She also said that if my entire body was paralyzed that I would still only have my mind to work with.

Wow! I like this. I've been telling myself lately that taking care of my body and my mind come first before anything. But now I'm seeing how mind really comes first before all things, including my body. When I took this challenge I KNEW that all the naysayers were wrong, and as pacomartin has said that it will get "exponentially more difficult". I completely disagree. It's just a story. To say this is difficult or that it will be difficult is extremely false. It is what it is and if I can get my large 250 pound body to comfortably do the amount of exercise that I've been doing and eat the low amount of calories how in the world is it supposed to get harder? And someone may say "Well your weight loss will most likely slow down and you can find yourself discouraged and that would be hard." Discouraged about what? That maybe I lost 1.2 pounds instead of 2.4 pounds that week? How is a 1.2 pound loss a failure? Why in the world would that discourage me?? I just don't understand this thought that it's "supposed" to get harder. How do you know? Do you have some crystal ball? This whole thing has been nothing but fun for me.

I also want to comment, lovingly, about how I still disagree with SOOPOO and the Wizard in regards to weight loss success as being simply about willpower. In reading and following Katie I see that it is the negative thoughts that I believe surrounding weight and food and eating and etc. that cause failure, not simply a lack of willpower. Those nasty thoughts have been my greatest saboteurs. I am getting into the habit of catching these thoughts before I believe them for too long so that I can question them and turn them around and see that these thoughts were never true to begin with. So you 2 can still disagree with me but I am just sharing what I know to be true in my heart.
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January 19th, 2012 at 12:14:52 PM permalink
You burn calories in order to keep warm!
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January 19th, 2012 at 2:10:54 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde


And someone may say "Well your weight loss will most likely slow down and you can find yourself discouraged and that would be hard." Discouraged about what? That maybe I lost 1.2 pounds instead of 2.4 pounds that week? How is a 1.2 pound loss a failure? Why in the world would that discourage me?

I also want to comment, lovingly, about how I still disagree with SOOPOO and the Wizard in regards to weight loss success as being simply about willpower.



Losing 1.2 pounds a week is only a failure if your goal is to win a bet saying you can lose double that. For you, the person, if you lost a consistent 1.2 pounds a week it would be great. Weight loss success is not simply about willpower.... but that is certainly the most important factor. You seem to have shown remarkable willpower in your first week and a half. keep it up!
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January 19th, 2012 at 5:34:37 PM permalink
I don't know if anyone is interested or not but I guess they taped the webcast from this morning and they are replaying it in 30 minutes, at 6:00pm PST. If anyone is interested here is the link:

This morning's webcast with Byron Katie

It's an hour long and she answers my question in the last 5-10 minutes or so of it, which would fall just after 6:50pm PST.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 4:35:03 AM permalink
HB will be weighing in tomorrow. She says she has been sticking to her diet and exercise regimen. I make the over/under on her weight tomorrow at 239.3 lbs. I think if she is under 240 this will spur her on... HB says she will be making another blog entry on Monday.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 4:39:43 AM permalink
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I don't know if anyone is interested or not but I guess they taped the webcast ...


Oh, I thought your weigh-in was being webcast.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 7:49:24 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

HB will be weighing in tomorrow. She says she has been sticking to her diet and exercise regimen. I make the over/under on her weight tomorrow at 239.3 lbs. I think if she is under 240 this will spur her on... HB says she will be making another blog entry on Monday.

Oh, just so you know my scale measures in multiples of .02 so you'd have to make another guess. Maybe 239.2 or 239.4?


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Oh, I thought your weigh-in was being webcast.

No, that was Byron Katie's webcast that I was featured in asking her about my obesity.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 8:16:50 AM permalink
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It's 39 degrees out and I'm riding my bike to the gym. Yikes! I guess it'll all be worth it in the end (I hope!).

Would you like cheese with that?

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January 22nd, 2012 at 8:19:22 AM permalink
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Would you like cheese with that?

--Ms. D.

I wasn't whining, if you see I was being positive about it.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 8:32:29 AM permalink
HB- an over/under line that cannot be hit exactly is perfect... there will always be action and never a tie. DorothyGale- you seem interested in this challenge... why not be the first female to ante up and get some action against HB succeeding? I'm guessing you can try the low roller rate of $180 to win $20? Join the fun!!!
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January 22nd, 2012 at 8:34:43 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

HB- an over/under line that cannot be hit exactly is perfect... there will always be action and never a tie.

I don't know what this means. I thought you were trying to guess how much I was going to weigh in tomorrow.

?????
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January 22nd, 2012 at 8:48:20 AM permalink
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I don't know what this means. I thought you were trying to guess how much I was going to weigh in tomorrow.

?????



Correct, you obviously do not know what this means.... Any event that has a defined number for an answer can be bet on either over or under. The most common such bet is on football scores, for total points between 2 teams playing in a single game as opponents. So.... let's say the over under line on the Giants 49ers game is 40.5. You can bet that the total will be either under 40.5, or over 40.5. Since the total can never end in a half point this bet will always resolve, either in a win or a loss. So, if in the HB weigh in, I made the over under at 239.3, and your scale only can be in .2 incrememnts, then if you bet either the over 239.3 or under 239.3 you will either win or lose, there can be no tie. Generally, a bookmaker will try and set the over under line so that half of the betting public will bet over, and half under. Since you usually have to risk $11 to win $10, that is how the casino makes money. It is referred to as a 'vigorish', or 'the vig'.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 8:51:31 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Correct, you obviously do not know what this means.... Any event that has a defined number for an answer can be bet on either over or under. The most common such bet is on football scores, for total points between 2 teams playing in a single game as opponents. So.... let's say the over under line on the Giants 49ers game is 40.5. You can bet that the total will be either under 40.5, or over 40.5. Since the total can never end in a half point this bet will always resolve, either in a win or a loss. So, if in the HB weigh in, I made the over under at 239.3, and your scale only can be in .2 incrememnts, then if you bet either the over 239.3 or under 239.3 you will either win or lose, there can be no tie. Generally, a bookmaker will try and set the over under line so that half of the betting public will bet over, and half under. Since you usually have to risk $11 to win $10, that is how the casino makes money. It is referred to as a 'vigorish', or 'the vig'.

Ok got it. But then now I'm wondering does this mean you are setting up a whole new bet now?
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January 22nd, 2012 at 10:02:49 AM permalink
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Ok got it. But then now I'm wondering does this mean you are setting up a whole new bet now?

Yes, I think so. This is what would be "in game" betting. Rather than just awaiting the "final score" at the final weigh-in, he is developing a "morning line" on the interim weigh in.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 10:09:54 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Yes, I think so. This is what would be "in game" betting. Rather than just awaiting the "final score" at the final weigh-in, he is developing a "morning line" on the interim weigh in.

Gotcha. Kinda like when I play craps and bet on each come after the original passline bet.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 10:22:41 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Yes, I think so. This is what would be "in game" betting. Rather than just awaiting the "final score" at the final weigh-in, he is developing a "morning line" on the interim weigh in.



Correct, but this is just for fun.... Since HB can now her weight today and the rest of us don't my suggestion was just for fun, not money.
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January 22nd, 2012 at 2:03:53 PM permalink
How much do you think I'll weigh in tomorrow morning?

The expected weigh-in on my chart says 240.7 (which would show on my scale as either 240.6 or 240.8) with an expected weight loss of 3.1 pounds. You said the over/under was 239.3 which means you think I could lose more or less than 4.5 less than I weighed in last week, which is 1.4 pounds more of a weight loss than I expect to lose according to my calorie intake and output. But I did lose 7 pounds my first week. The question is will I have lost more water weight this week along with my fat loss or will I lose the expected 3.1 pounds or so?

Does no one want to guess?
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January 23rd, 2012 at 7:32:17 AM permalink
Weighed in this morning. New weekly blog.
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January 23rd, 2012 at 9:14:51 AM permalink
HB weighed in at 241.0, 1.7 lbs over my over/under line of 239.3. She has lost 9.8 pounds in the first two weeks. This can only be defined as a success. The first week was substantially higher as the 'water' weight comes off first, with fat. The second week is probably all fat loss. I'm guessing 238.2 for next Monday's weigh in. Good luck.
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January 24th, 2012 at 10:52:32 PM permalink
I took a nap today and had a dream that I was on The Biggest Loser and it was down to the final three, which I was one of, and it was weigh-in day. I remember feeling proud for getting so far cuz even though I was on the show I had accomplished my goal by doing exactly what I've been doing in real life and entirely at home. I remember thinking that if I made it through to the top two then I would start lifting weights to gain a greater advantage in the competition. I liked that I was successful in my weight loss efforts in my dream. :)
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January 24th, 2012 at 11:40:40 PM permalink
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I liked that I was successful in my weight loss efforts in my dream. :)



Keep up the hard work and make it a reality!
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January 26th, 2012 at 6:13:21 PM permalink
So I have a customer of mine offer to give me a $100 reward if I make my goal at weigh-in with no reward to him if I lose. If it's possible to add him to the total you can put him in as ConsultantDave for $100 to win $0.
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January 26th, 2012 at 7:10:12 PM permalink
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Thanks sunrise... I have often been called a character.....

Wiz $1800
SOOPOO $1350
Switch $900
Golfbuddy $450
rdw4potus $450
AcesAndEights $450
lucyjr $180
FrGamble $90
sunrise089 $90

$5760 to win $640

Still time for others to follow FrGamble's example and get in on the action...



Add consultantDave $100 to win $0, so total is now $5860 to win $640
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January 29th, 2012 at 3:43:42 AM permalink
HB weighs in tomorrow morning for the completion of her 3rd week. I have made the over under line at 238.1. My last communication with her was a few days ago, and she says she was still holding firm on her diet and exercise program. I am wagering 3 quatloos on the over, as a 238.2 would win me those quatloos. After HB posts her results, I will ask her if she is still accepting new wagers.
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January 29th, 2012 at 7:53:36 AM permalink
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I am wagering 3 quatloos on the over, as a 238.2 would win me those quatloos.

What the heck is a quatloo??
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January 29th, 2012 at 8:18:27 AM permalink
The unit of currency on Triskellion.
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January 29th, 2012 at 9:07:09 AM permalink
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The unit of currency on Triskellion.

I don't know what that means.
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January 29th, 2012 at 9:17:56 AM permalink
Google 'The gamesters of triskelion'. I t would take too long to explain here.
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January 29th, 2012 at 9:42:50 AM permalink
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I don't know what that means.



It's from an old Star Trek episode. Some aliens held a sort of gladiatorial contest and bet "quatloos" on the outcome. The line about newcomers refers to Kirk and whoever got dragged along on that week's delightful mission.
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January 29th, 2012 at 10:46:19 AM permalink
So if HottBlonde is going to get almost 6,000 for losing her weight, that is awesome!
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January 29th, 2012 at 11:33:20 AM permalink
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So if HottBlonde is going to get almost 6,000 for losing her weight, that is awesome!

I can't complain but would be happy if I hit my $9000 goal in bets against me.
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January 29th, 2012 at 11:51:03 AM permalink
For that kind of cash I would lose some weight (well at least have more than personal motivation).
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January 29th, 2012 at 1:32:01 PM permalink
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I don't know what that means.



Of course not, its the will of Landru that
keeps the information from you.
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January 29th, 2012 at 4:32:08 PM permalink
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Of course not, its the will of Landru that
keeps the information from you.



Bob- you've been drinking too much Romulan ale.....
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January 29th, 2012 at 9:48:08 PM permalink
Sci-fi geeks... I'm lovin' it!
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January 30th, 2012 at 10:24:24 AM permalink
New weekly blog posted here.
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January 30th, 2012 at 1:54:39 PM permalink
In awhile the compliments will start coming
as people notice you're losing weight. Those
are great ego boosters and really help you
stay focused.
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January 31st, 2012 at 4:30:32 PM permalink
HB weighed in at 236.6, down 14.2 pounds in 3 weeks. She avers that she has not strayed one iota from her well documented, well thought out plan. The bets are in at a hefty 9 -1 against miss HB. After these stunning 3 successful weeks, if I had to make a new line, I think her singlemindedness has made me guess at about 4 - 1 against her. If she succeeds, I may hire HB as my personal nutritionist and weight loss counselor.
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January 31st, 2012 at 4:55:48 PM permalink
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If she succeeds, I may hire HB as my personal nutritionist and weight loss counselor.

Well I'm looking for a new job so it would be my pleasure! I am spending hours upon hours of reading up on nutrition and healthy eating and etc. For example, just today alone I signed up for the "Eat This, Not That" newsletter and spent time perusing their website. About a half hour ago I read through "Dr. Oz's 99 Diet Foods Shopping List" and even posted it on my Facebook and commented on it. Just a few minutes ago I was reading an online article from Fitness magazine called "The 10 Healthiest Foods on the Planet". I get excited (yes, really) thinking about all the cool things that I'm putting into my body when I eat nutritious foods. All these "magical" things that I put in my body and they just do all their magnicifent work. And right now as I'm writing this I'm eating my dinner which, per my week 3 blog, is hummus and carrots. I love eating healthy cuz I think about all the stuff that's going into my body and doing my body good. The chickpeas and the garlic and pine nuts and olive oil and herbs and sesame seeds. Not to mention the raw and nutritious carrots I eat with it. I think that may be why I look forward to each meal and have not been hungry. I think it's a trick of my mind. Every meal I eat is super healthy and I think that when I eat it, although many would say the portions look small, my mind is thinking about the tons of minerals, vitamins, healthy fats, water, fiber, and etc. that I'm consuming and it "mentally" fills me up. Good stuff!
OFFICIALLY and justifiably reclaimed my title as SuperHotBlonde!
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February 3rd, 2012 at 8:23:19 PM permalink
So my dad is in. He is betting $45 against me to win $5.
OFFICIALLY and justifiably reclaimed my title as SuperHotBlonde!
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