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SOOPOO
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January 10th, 2012 at 4:39:16 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

If we want to be on the "Passline", is 9-1 available if we take HB's side?



No- at least for now. HB gets to 'book' the first 9k worth of bets. If there are more than 10 'investors' then we can open it up to others.
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January 10th, 2012 at 4:45:51 AM permalink
Quote: thecesspit



I won't be taking the bet : I'm not into booking bets that large with unknown people, regardless if the value I perceive.



If you are using the 'I am not sure I'll be paid if I win' reason for not betting, I will act as a guarantor for your $100 if HB doesn't pay. If you want, I will send you the $100 today. You can keep it if she fails, and SHE will be trusting YOU to send her the $1000($900 plus the $100).... You let me know.....
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January 10th, 2012 at 5:10:48 AM permalink
I'm almost tempted to take this bet, because there is so little chance of losing. I do believe HB will lose weight; however 250->160 in less than a year without a lifestyle change is a very difficult goal.
And if $1,200 plus not being fat isn't enough to motivate one, but $9,000 is, it suggests the value one places on not being fat is very low, considering it's a couple extra years of healthy life at least.

On the other hand, I hate the idea of rooting for someone's misery. Not absolute on that, I can do death pools, but it has to be someone on the level of Gaddafi or Obama for such a bet not to be immoral, and I have no reason to wish any bad on HB.
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January 10th, 2012 at 5:17:52 AM permalink
i agree with those who said the key to losing weight, especially so much so quickly, would require a lifestyle change. and that would be the biggest challenge when habits have to change. with a goal this high, besides diet, exercise to burn lots of calories is also going to be needed. depending on what type of exercise you choose you are probably going to have to put in lots of time, so if you can find something you enjoy that would help you to stick with it. whatever type of exercise you like to do adding some weight resistance would help greatly to complement the aerobic exercise that you choose.

in any case, HB i wish you the best. although this may be a challenging goal, its a worthy one. good luck.

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January 10th, 2012 at 6:13:33 AM permalink
I'm a little concerned about the underlying message from posters of such a dramatic weight loss being detrimental to HB's health. I don't want to feel party to enticing a dangerous dare (if that is the case) - although I have offered to take the bet and will honor it if accepted.

Here's a suggestion that may encourage more posters as well as keep ongoing events interesting and be a possibly safer option:-

How about a form of bet spread ?

Since HB is at 250 and wishes to get to 160 then you could use the line:-

211 + - HB loses
200 - 210 Tie to both sides
199 - - HB wins

So, if HB finds it difficult and manages to get to 190lbs then she will win 10 points on the spread. That may be a more natural weight loss for her so no drastic actions have been needed and HB will look and feel better for it at the end (and also have a small financial gain). As long as HB gets below 200lbs (realistic) then she will win something.

The spread could be set to allow odds for HB (say 6/1) so that HB can only lose $100 but could potentially win up to $600 - the lower the spread levels then the higher the potential payoff. For example:-

186+ - HB loses $10 per point max' $100
175 - 185 - Tie
174 - - HB wins at $60 per point max' $600

The bet per point can either be set at, say $10 per point, or posters can pick their preferred price per point.

Similar to the stock market (and maybe more appealing to the gambling nature on this site) posters may be able to hedge their bets during the period in order to guarantee a return.

Just a thought.
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January 10th, 2012 at 8:12:21 AM permalink
I should mention I've declined to take this bet becasue I'm sure our esteemed HB can do it. As evidence I cite myself. I once lost about 50 lbs in five and a half months, which is close to what HB is shooting for. All it takes is a sensible diet and frequent exercise. If I could exercise 5 or 6 days a week, I'd be shooting for 10 lbs a month myself and trying to take a piece of the action ;)

It's not, if you'll pardon the metaphor, a piece of cake. But it's not an impossibility either.
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January 10th, 2012 at 8:25:59 AM permalink
Hi everyone. I'd like to give a more detailed reply to everyone's posts but I'm really limiting my extracurricular time since I really am 100% dedicated to hitting my Oct 17th goals. I need to make my breakfast and start my day so I'll keep this short.

I will briefly say that medically 1.5 - 2 lbs of weightloss per week is considered a healthy range. I plan on losing approx. 2.5 pounds a week. Technically that's outside of the clinical range but not that much further off so to me it's something I'm 100% comfortable with.

To put this in perspective people on The Biggest Loser tv show often lose an average of 10 pounds per week and even double that sometimes the first week or so. I've also been watching Extreme Makeover: Weightloss Edition on Hulu and these people have 1 year to get in shape and their trainer sets goals to lose 200+ pounds usually. Also those who get weightloss surgery usually lose a great amount of weight rather quickly.

For those who are concerned about my health, I appreciate that entirely, but rest assured I will be losing my 2.5 pounds or so per week eating a healthy diet and exercising. That is 100% how I am planning on losing the weight with a few added supplements (NO harsh medications or anything like that). It's basically going to be all discipline. No stomach stapling, no anorexia, no bulemia, no crazy stuff. It is true that it's not good to eat less than 1100-1200 calories per day and I don't ever plan on going below that, but will be eating 1300-1400 per day, at least to start. I can give you more details on my food plan but as I am crunched for time I will leave that for later. It is super healthy with fruits and vegetables and whole grains and healthy fats and etc. I really, truly in my heart believe that my goal is attainable and don't think it's out of reach. I believe that it is mind over matter and I am ready to take the challenge.

2 more things. For those of you who are hesitant to take the bet because in a sense you will be betting for my failure please know that to me that is such a great motivation (ironically). I know all if not most of you from a human standpoint would be rooting for my success. But please don't hesitate to bet against me thinking that it would be rude or unsportsmanlike or whatever because the more people that bet against me the more it is going to drive me to prove you all wrong. Secondly, for those of you who think it's crazy that I would pass up a $1200 prize and would rather have a chance at winning $9000 instead I don't know what to say. Call it greedy, call it what you want, but I can tell you I am purely WAY more motivated thinking I can win close to ten thousand dollars. Sure I could lose 90 pounds and more over time but to know that I have to do it within a strict period of time is not only going to severly help me in taking constant action but has made me really excited to think about the financial prize at the end. So, as of now, I don't think I'll settle for any sort of point thing (I don't know how all that works) but would rather shoot for the $9000 win or $1000 loss.

And do know that I always have fun when I gamble. If I weigh myself on Oct 17th and I've lost 85 pounds and not 90 or more I will literally happily pay out my money but do it with a HUGE smile on my face. If it means I have to pay out up to $1000 to lose 85 pounds that's fine with me. I'm not a sore loser.

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January 10th, 2012 at 8:30:01 AM permalink
I'm not going to take the bet, but I'm thinking that with money on the line, diet and exercise to lose 10 pounds a month should not be hard.

2 pounds a week can be done by shedding 500 calories a day from your diet (cut out snacks, soft drinks, fast food) and working out daily on a treadmill to burn 500 calories (about 40 minutes).

I'm been somewhat inspired both by the Wizard's 1/2 marathon and this thread. I could stand to lose 35 pounds, so I'm going to see if I can get down to 200 by summer. My exercise program will be training for a 10K run. Apparently, for men, walking a mile uses 88 calories while running uses 124. (74 and 105 for women).
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January 10th, 2012 at 8:33:14 AM permalink
Oh, and P.S. I forgot to say that I went at 9pm last night and joined a gym. I will start going today after my breakfast.
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January 10th, 2012 at 8:37:34 AM permalink
Dear HotBlonde - I am an adult onset diabetic and I would say get rid of the refined carbohydrates (no white food). Atkins will normalize your sugars and set your metabolism to burn fat for energy rather than storing excess carbohydrates as fat. (or in the case of a diabetic have a bunch of sugar floating around in your bloodstream)
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