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petroglyph
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April 6th, 2020 at 4:07:43 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

There weren't 100 million natives living in the New World in the Colonial era and it's doubtful many British soldiers ever saw a Buffalo, let alone slaughtered them with black powder single shot muskets.

The British were the largest market for pelts.
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April 6th, 2020 at 4:09:47 PM permalink
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I saw that bison skull pile, wow. (next to impossible to believe those animals were even close to being used for anything but massive rot)

At that time, the Bison were the largest biomass on the planet, larger than the African water buffalo now.

Signs in Montana claim one herd was five miles wide and one hundred miles long.

note; of course the buffalo used social distancing
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April 6th, 2020 at 5:53:35 PM permalink
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Small casinos can get robbed pretty easily compared to big ones. Like the Longhorn in vegas. It's only 30 steps to cashier's cage. Usually only one security guard. Just sayin' Not sayin' it's a good way to stay free.



Yes, and you could get away with $84 and food stamps.
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April 6th, 2020 at 7:13:38 PM permalink
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Yes, and you could get away with $84 and food stamps.



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I'm sure the cash reserve is low, but it's probably a little more than the 7-11 on the corner, which I think has about $100 out of the safe.
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April 6th, 2020 at 7:29:39 PM permalink
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April 6th, 2020 at 7:33:56 PM permalink
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The British barely left the coasts in the hundred and fifty years, give or take a few, they controlled their colonies.
They didn't kill 100 million native Indians. By all accounts, there were more Indians in what would become the USofA in 1783 than there were in 1607. In Canada, the British treated Indians much better than our American government did.



“....The Indians, Columbus reported, “are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they never say no.”…The only gold was bits of dust…So they fled, were hunted down with dogs and were killed…hanged or burned to death….. In 1495, they (Columbus’ expedition) went on a slave raid, rounded up fifteen hundred, two hundred died en route. The rest arrived alive in Spain and were put up for sale by the archdeacon…In two years, through murder, mutilation, or suicide, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead…When it became clear that there was no gold left, the Indians were taken as slave labor on huge estates, known later as encomiendas… and died by the thousands.

In Virginia, 1607 , Powhatan addressed a plea to John Smith:

I have seen two generations of my people die….I know the difference between peace and war better than any man in my country. I am now grown old, and must die soon; my authority must descend to my brothers, Opitchapan, Opechancanough and Catatough—then to my two sisters, and to my two daughters. ….and that your love to them may be like mine to you. Why will you take by force what you may have quietly by love? Why will you destroy us who supply you with food? What can you get by war? We can hide our provisions and run into the woods; then you will starve for wronging your friends. Why are you so jealous of us? We are unarmed, and willing to give you what you ask…

John Winthrop declared the area legally a “vacuum.” The Indians, he said, had not “subdued” the land, and therefore had only a “natural” right to it, but not a “civil right.” A “natural right” did not have legal standing.

The Puritans also appealed to Psalms 2:8:”Ask of me, and I shall give thee, the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.” Romans 13:2: “Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.”

The Indians drew 3 lessons from the 1636 Pequot War: (1) that the Englishmen’s most solemn pledge would be broken whenever obligation conflicted with advantage; (2) that the English way of war had no limit of scruple or mercy; and (3) that weapons of Indian making were almost useless against weapons of European manufacture."

A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.
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April 6th, 2020 at 7:44:09 PM permalink
The massive contagion issues aren’t going away May 1. I am wondering how they plan to open these venues with contagion still looming large. I have to assume some big societal norms are going to change.

Even then....True safety won’t happen until we get a vaccine.

Should be interesting. We have to get the economy moving again but there are still BIG roadblocks come May 1. Masks, no smoking, every other slot closed, 3 to table are all likely in play.
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April 6th, 2020 at 8:03:21 PM permalink
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The British were the largest market for pelts.



Not Buffalo pelts. Not a lot of Buffalo east of the Great Plains, even in the 18th century.
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April 6th, 2020 at 8:10:41 PM permalink
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“....The Indians, Columbus reported, “are so naive and so free with their possessions that no one who has not witnessed them would believe it. When you ask for something they never say no.”…The only gold was bits of dust…So they fled, were hunted down with dogs and were killed…hanged or burned to death….. In 1495, they (Columbus’ expedition) went on a slave raid, rounded up fifteen hundred, two hundred died en route. The rest arrived alive in Spain and were put up for sale by the archdeacon…In two years, through murder, mutilation, or suicide, half of the 250,000 Indians on Haiti were dead…When it became clear that there was no gold left, the Indians were taken as slave labor on huge estates, known later as encomiendas… and died by the thousands.

In Virginia, 1607 , Powhatan addressed a plea to John Smith:







The Indians drew 3 lessons from the 1636 Pequot War: (1) that the Englishmen’s most solemn pledge would be broken whenever obligation conflicted with advantage; (2) that the English way of war had no limit of scruple or mercy; and (3) that weapons of Indian making were almost useless against weapons of European manufacture."

A People's History of the United States by Howard Zinn.




Was Columbus British? I've heard he was Italian, Corsican and even a light skinned African Jew, but never heard him called British.

So the year the English first land in Virginia, an Indian says he has seen them fight for two generations?

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