The Surreal Feeling About
Quote: EvenBobYou place little value on your own life
and you project that onto everybody
else.
...or acute need of attention
But many of us are like that I don't necessarily judge and find it interesting when it's sincere, it gives perspective in the different views of reality and the type of delusions we all have in some form or another
It will Peak AND THEN WHAT???Quote: billryanIF everything goes well, we are probably looking at cases peaking in 45 days.
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I don't know why I quoted you when I wrote that or how that happened. Your response however, was accurate. She finally texted me back saying, she didn't want any negativity as she was already stressed out(No Good Deed...) I texted her father(*rolls eyes) who lives in Washington and told him to have a talk with his daughter.Quote: rxwineQuote: AxelWolfI texted my niece who's in her early 20 and Pregnant and lives in Las Vegas to see how she was doing and see if she has prepared and needed anything. She isn't working and her guy only makes $15 to $18 an hour.Quote: rxwineDRich said somewhere, something like existence is meaningless or pointless. But I believe his response is backward. The ultimate challenge is to look into bleakness, blackness of meaninglessness and still want to go on.
I told her she should take the serious and think about storing food and other essential things and to let me know if she needed anything.
This is was her exact quote, " I've been watching the news and I'm well aware of what's going on, I don't think this will last long, everything is opening back up in a few weeks"
I asked her a few questions. How is it you think it'll magically just disappear in a couple weeks and they will the open everything up? Was my first question along with some others. It's been over an hour and she hasn't responded back.
Most of us are going to have some degree of stress reaction as this extends over days and weeks.
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Assuming, I can get extra food and things, I'll pick up as much as I can for those care about who may need it.
I assume getting things like boost, and Ensure would be a good idea and it seems to be available. I wonder if that's because it's expensive? I have a feeling today it's going to be an absolute Madhouse trying to shop for anything.
Quote: michael99000How many can claim that every gambling session is profitable , and every stock trade is a winner? Not many. We should just be appreciative that one of those select few is here at the WOV forum. They say the great ones make it look easy.
I wonder why Mike hasn't weighed in on this
it certainly seems like he should make some comment
Hopefully he's been out and about buying what he needs for his family, until you've done that I'm pretty sure the forums are the last place you need to be.Quote: lilredroosterI wonder why Mike hasn't weighed in on this
it certainly seems like he should make some comment
I hear gas cans are sold out as well.
Quote: odiousgambitemphasis mine. Wizard, and those of your ilk, are you listening?Quote: Face...Not to be alarmist, but if you're using these terms, you yourself are a danger to you and everyone around you.
Yes, because now words are dangerous.
all North America operations. This will
automatically shut down the hundreds
of factories that supply them, including
my brothers that employee's 2700.
Here in blighty, food stores are rapidly getting picked clean. Little chicken or ground beef.Quote: AxelWolfLet's hope I can still get more frozen food.
I hear gas cans are sold out as well.
Web-cams are hard to find and suffering price gouging. Very few available for quick delivery from amazon. I managed to get the last one from a tiny local retailer who hadn't realised his mark up was too low $:o)
So now, family get-togethers will be by video conference.
Quote: rxwineHopefully we will get some good things out of this like worldwide fast response teams.
We already have the CDC and national health service.
Quote: AZDuffmanWe already have the CDC and national health service.
Not what I'm talking about. It's a coordinated international response team.
But also, a lot of couples are going to find out they don't really like each other. It's one thing to have a relationship where each can have different hobby's and friend groups. But when couples [plus children] get quarantined for a month or two, look out.
Quote: SOOPOOI said suspension for me. One could argue my post was a personal insult aimed at you.
My post speaks for itself.
Just so you know ,I was not offended.
Probably overall yes, it has to be so. Just depends on the individual women, some with good instincts will not want to have a child with such an uncertain future.Quote: petroglyphIn nine months there will be a bunch of baby's born.
But also, a lot of couples are going to find out they don't really like each other. It's one thing to have a relationship where each can have different hobby's and friend groups. But when couples [plus children] get quarantined for a month or two, look out.
Quote: rxwineNot what I'm talking about. It's a coordinated international response team.
We still kind of have that. No team is going to handle what is supposedly happening right now.
Being uncertain of the future and procreating is more proof that we are hard wired to reproduce in uncertain times. The more iffy the future the more offspring a species create.Quote: onenickelmiracleProbably overall yes, it has to be so. Just depends on the individual women, some with good instincts will not want to have a child with such an uncertain future.Quote: petroglyphIn nine months there will be a bunch of baby's born.
But also, a lot of couples are going to find out they don't really like each other. It's one thing to have a relationship where each can have different hobby's and friend groups. But when couples [plus children] get quarantined for a month or two, look out.
The kids I had were "instinctual". No planning included.
for a split second there I thought "instinctual" was a different word that starts with an IN and kind of sounds like it.Quote: petroglyphBeing uncertain of the future and procreating is more proof that we are hard wired to reproduce in uncertain times. The more iffy the future the more offspring a species create.Quote: onenickelmiracleProbably overall yes, it has to be so. Just depends on the individual women, some with good instincts will not want to have a child with such an uncertain future.Quote: petroglyphIn nine months there will be a bunch of baby's born.
But also, a lot of couples are going to find out they don't really like each other. It's one thing to have a relationship where each can have different hobby's and friend groups. But when couples [plus children] get quarantined for a month or two, look out.
The kids I had were "instinctual". No planning included.
Quote: billryanKnowing what you know now, how many would support dropping a couple nukes to destroy the next one?
On a populated part of China or something? Are you nuts?
Quote: AZDuffmanWe still kind of have that. No team is going to handle what is supposedly happening right now.
Not at this point. If the Earth's population represented 1 living organism we're already well beyond a localized infection.
Quote: AZDuffmanOn a populated part of China or something? Are you nuts?
25,000 dead vs millions? Why should it matter if it was China or NYC?
Quote: TomGA smaller burden means more doctors and ventilators available, as well as immediate hospitalization, and whatever other resources are necessary to increases survival rates for everyone, included those at the greatest risk.
There are a lot of very successful treatments available for HIV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS#Treatment
I agree! I started researching possible treatments for COVID-19 and it seems there are several promising drugs, expecially hydroxychloroquine and its variants.
Quote: billryan25,000 dead vs millions? Why should it matter if it was China or NYC?
Why not just kill everyone on their 65th birthday?
They're the most vulnerable anyway, and are the ones sucking up all the health care resources, right?
Quote: CalderWhy not just kill everyone on their 65th birthday?
They're the most vulnerable anyway, and are the ones sucking up all the health care resources, right?
Doctors will cut off an arm to stop an infection from spreading to the rest of the body.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/18/coronavirus-latest-news/
They are saying that has to go for 14 days before the situation in china is considered safe.
So are we basically waiting for there to be zero new cases reported here in the states AND THEN going to go another 14 days of closures?
Quote: darkozChina today had zero new cases for the first time
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/03/18/coronavirus-latest-news/
They are saying that has to go for 14 days before the situation in china is considered safe.
So are we basically waiting for there to be zero new cases reported here in the states AND THEN going to go another 14 days of closures?
How do we know that someone who has it on day 1 of the zero new cases doesn’t transmit it to someone else on let’s say day 11 of the 14 days, and then that person is still infected and spreading it well after the 14 days Is over.
Bill Ackman on CNBC might have had it correct today. Only a drastic 30-40 day “everyone stays in their house” period can truly end this.
And how long do we keep international travel restricted? As long as the virus still exists anywhere in the world , it can be transmitted to someone in America. That’s how it started here in the first place. So we get to 0 people infected , then someone from Poland travels here and infects someone, then the whole thing starts over again.
Quote: billryanDoctors will cut off an arm to stop an infection from spreading to the rest of the body.
If you think there is one section of China where they eat wild animals just because they catch one, you're wrong. Not only this, they don't like to refrigerate food because it's part of Chinese medicine to eat food at room temperature or before they cook it. China is a country as big as the US geographically.
Quote: michael99000How do we know that someone who has it on day 1 of the zero new cases doesn’t transmit it to someone else on let’s say day 11 of the 14 days, and then that person is still infected and spreading it well after the 14 days Is over.
Bill Ackman on CNBC might have had it correct today. Only a drastic 30-40 day “everyone stays in their house” period can truly end this.
And how long do we keep international travel restricted? As long as the virus still exists anywhere in the world , it can be transmitted to someone in America. That’s how it started here in the first place. So we get to 0 people infected , then someone from Poland travels here and infects someone, then the whole thing starts over again.
China is on lockdown. They even welded apartment buildings shut so infected could not leave
The 14 days from now with zero cases was for that situation
And yes reinfected is a serious concern
Which brings me back to my own concern about where we are heading with our own closures
Quote: darkozChina today had zero new cases for the first time
No. China REPORTED that they had zero new cases.
A subtle but significant difference.
Quote: gordonm888I agree! I started researching possible treatments for COVID-19 and it seems there are several promising drugs, expecially hydroxychloroquine and its variants.
I was talking to my cousin about this a couple of days ago. He's an MD who is board certified in both Trauma and Pathology and is licensed to practice medicine in the US, UK, and a few other places so he has a pretty good feel for what's going on both down in the trenches as well as in the research labs. His take was that a treatment is much more likely to than a vaccine.
P.S. He also said he has very little confidence in any statistics reported by China and is constantly rejecting papers by Chinese researchers that he is asked to review for the medical journals.
Quote: OnceDearNo. China REPORTED that they had zero new cases.
A subtle but significant difference.
Directly quoted from article
"China reported ts first day with no new locally transmitted coronavirus infections"
What subtle difference are you making?
EDIT: oh, I see you are implying they may not be reporting properly
True
Quote: darkozDirectly quoted from article
"China reported ts first day with no new locally transmitted coronavirus infections"
What subtle difference are you making?
The difference between what is reported and what is actually going on?
[EDIT} ahh you caught that before I could post. Never mind.
Although I exhibit symptoms of the Coronavirus some symptoms were asymptomatic. I had symptoms not listed while missing some symptoms that are specific to Coronavirus
As I was starting to freak out I also celebrated the last day of taking antibiotics for election dental surgery I had and the old bell went off in my head.
Sure enough all the symptoms I had were associated with this particular antibiotic.
Not taking it and already I feel much better
(And yes I did finish all the medication)
Quote: darkozI have been terribly sick the last few days
Although I exhibit symptoms of the Coronavirus some symptoms were asymptomatic. I had symptoms not listed while missing some symptoms that are specific to Coronavirus
As I was starting to freak out I also celebrated the last day of taking antibiotics for election dental surgery I had and the old bell went off in my head.
Sure enough all the symptoms I had were associated with this particular antibiotic.
Not taking it and already I feel much better
(And yes I did finish all the medication)
Damn. Almost 500 dead in Italy, we need you. Actually this isn't funny anymore. We're likely to lose people here.
Quote: CalderWhy not just kill everyone on their 65th birthday?
They're the most vulnerable anyway, and are the ones sucking up all the health care resources, right?
"Logan's Run", Senior Edition!
Quote: onenickelmiracleDamn. Almost 500 dead in Italy, we need you. Actually this isn't funny anymore. We're likely to lose people here.
Just when was it funny?
Quote: billryanJust when was it funny?
Just had sex for a roll of toilet paper.
Quote: onenickelmiracleJust had sex for a roll of toilet paper.
If someone pays you for sex, that would be a one nickle miracle.
Quote: gordonm888If someone pays you for sex, that would be a one nickle miracle.
Ten cents!
Quote: onenickelmiracleTen cents!
Wow inflation
Quote: onenickelmiracleJust had sex for a roll of toilet paper.
“For” or “with”
Quote: onenickelmiracleJust had sex for a roll of toilet paper.
I have been wondering where all of our toilet paper is going. I guess I am going to have to have an uncomfortable talk with my wife.
More or less.....
Additional suicides this year 10,000
Additional divorces this year 25,000
Additional murders this year 2,500
Additional pregnancies this year 30,000
You will probably be able to sit in a day or two.Quote: onenickelmiracleJust had sex for a roll of toilet paper.
I learned from watching you dad! Ok!Quote: petroglyphYou will probably be able to sit in a day or two.
Quote: President Donald TrumpComes from China
Someone said "Kung Flu"
We're dying here, save the feelings for later.
Quote: SOOPOOI'm wondering...... because of this mess.....
More or less.....
Additional suicides this year 10,000
Additional divorces this year 25,000
Additional murders this year 2,500
Additional pregnancies this year 30,000
I’d guess more on all except murders.
Additional suicides probably way more...
