Grocery Store - Trip Report
Quote: rxwineBased on lost in wilderness cases, and other people without enough food, you can survive fairly long on small amount of food. You'll be very thin. Look at concentration camps. Starvation diets, and poor quality nourishment.
Maybe this is a good thing as most of our country is obese.
Quote: rxwineBased on lost in wilderness cases, and other people without enough food, you can survive fairly long on small amount of food. You'll be very thin. Look at concentration camps. Starvation diets, and poor quality nourishment.
Yeah, the important thing is water. As long as you have that, several hundred calories a day, and some vitamins, I bet you could last a loooong time.
Still plenty of food in total, just completely out of many things. I think it’s really interesting to see what people panic buy as far as food goes.
Could not get:
- Toilet paper or any other paper products
- Butter
- Sliced Bread, other types of bread like rolls were available
- Ground Beef
- Ice Cream
- Pancake Mix and Syrup
- Dry Pasta
- Flour
- Sugar
Plenty in stock:
- Soft Drinks
- Produce
- Seafood
- Milk
- Deli Meats
Walmart this afternoon of the
devastation from the weekend.
Empty of all fresh meat, dairy,
canned goods, paper products,
pet food. frozen entree's.
The other major chain store
was better, but most fresh
meat and dairy and TP was
gone. He hasn't seen an egg
in 2 weeks. Luckily I bought
6 dozen on March 4th.
sections at mt local Walmart
today.
Quote: TigerWuI think I know why Wal-Mart is getting the worst of these food runs but I don't want to piss anybody off by saying why.
It's because of their lower prices.
Why would you stock up on high
priced items when lower prices
are available.
Quote: EvenBobIt's because of their lower prices.
Why would you stock up on high
priced items when lower prices
are available.
That's part of it, yes.
But other grocery stores with marginally higher prices are not seeing the same shortages, despite the clientele generally being able to afford it.
Wal-Mart has lower prices, therefore it is frequented by lower income individuals. Lower income individuals, very broadly speaking, are less-educated, and less-educated people don't tend to make the most logical decisions some of the time. Once such illogical decision is hoarding products when it is not really necessary.
Interestingly enough, the Wal-Mart Neighborhood Grocery I went to was the only place to have a mostly full selection of produce and bread. Meat and dairy was mostly picked over though.
I don't think it's those people you're talking about that are hoarding all the food since the junk food items seem to be loaded up at all times.Quote: TigerWuThat's part of it, yes.
But other grocery stores with marginally higher prices are not seeing the same shortages, despite the clientele generally being able to afford it.
Wal-Mart has lower prices, therefore it is frequented by lower income individuals. Lower income individuals, very broadly speaking, are less-educated, and less-educated people don't tend to make the most logical decisions some of the time. Once such illogical decision is hoarding products when it is not really necessary.
Our UK Government just imposed its strongest 'lock-in' restrictions ever.
I'm only allowed out to get 'basic essentials: Food and meds and a few other basics' or for 'basic exercise'. No visiting or meeting family or friends. No groups of more than two people unless they live together.
[Expletive], [EXPLETIVE], [EXPLETIVE]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-52000039
I'd like to thank all those [expletive adjective] morons among my fellow Brits who just had to flout the common sense voluntary restrictions.
I think the stock depends on the urgency in your state or country. Here in PA there is quite a bit of urgency. It’s just me and Mrs, and we aren’t buying more than we need at any time for the next few days. But again, I can understand buying more, because it reduces the number of trips. But not hoarding.
chicken today by accident. Some
person had abandoned it outside
the meat dept. I can get 6-7 meals
out of it, where in normal times
I would get 3-4
.
Quote: TigerWuThat's part of it, yes.
But other grocery stores with marginally higher prices are not seeing the same shortages, despite the clientele generally being able to afford it.
Wal-Mart has lower prices, therefore it is frequented by lower income individuals. Lower income individuals, very broadly speaking, are less-educated, and less-educated people don't tend to make the most logical decisions some of the time. Once such illogical decision is hoarding products when it is not really necessary.
So the highly educated are smart because they pay more for the same items?
Safeway was pretty well stocked, except the frozen meals section was scarce and there was nothing in the paper aisle. They had bottled water in the back and were limiting it to one per person.
Quote: billryanSo the highly educated are smart because they pay more for the same items?
Safeway was pretty well stocked, except the frozen meals section was scarce and there was nothing in the paper aisle. They had bottled water in the back and were limiting it to one per person.
Hmmm.... I'll answer that. I guess I qualify as highly educated. I just prefer to shop at Wegman's instead of Walmart under normal circumstances. I know that for some items I am just paying more than if I shopped at Walmart. Under normal circumstances I don't want to make two separate trips. The service Wegman's is providing during this crisis is stellar. I will continue to pay more after this crisis is over.
(I do buy the two liter sodas for 75 cents each)
Quote: EvenBobI haven't left the house since March
4th. I did my monthly trip to the
store for groceries and produce
and 5 days later, March 9th, I was
sick as a dog. High fever, coughing,
it lasted for a week.
I started feeling better on the 16th,
a week ago today. This weekend I
had a lot of my strength back,
although I need a nap every 3 hours
or so. My next grocery trip is on
Ap 4th, next Thursday. I mostly need
to fill my 3 fridges with produce
which seems to be in plentiful
supply. You can't hoard produce.
I'm worried about chicken for the
freezer, my brother reports it's
sold out every day.
So you think you beat off Corona? Or just the flu? 5 days is the average incubation period.
My wife has not left our house/property for two weeks (EvenBob has her beat, I guess,). I have been in isolation for 10 days but I do the grocery and prescription meds runs. So far I haven't learned a new language or tried to re-read Ulysses.
Quote: tringlomaneSo you think you beat off Corona? Or just the flu? 5 days is the average incubation period.
Without testing I'll never know. Oddly,
Jan 23rd was my store trip before
March 4th, and got sick then 5 days
later on the 28th. This was worse
than the second time, no real fever
but almost non stop coughing for
2 weeks and extreme fatigue. It
was almost 6 weeks till I went again
on March 4th and it happened
all over again. Never been this sick
this long in my life.
Haven't mentioned it till now because
I was taught as a kid that being sick
was a sign of weakness and you just
ignore it and carry on. This is what
my parents were taught in the Depression.
So being sick embarassasses me because
it's a sign of weakness.
My mother spent 3 years in a horrible
Catholic orphanage when she was 8-11.
The nuns taught that if you could still
get out of bed, you could attend class
and do your chores. And get your bare
legs caned if you didn't.
Quote: EvenBobWithout testing I'll never know. Oddly,
Jan 23rd was my store trip before
March 4th, and got sick then 5 days
later on the 28th. This was worse
than the second time, no real fever
but almost non stop coughing for
2 weeks and extreme fatigue. It
was almost 6 weeks till I went again
on March 4th and it happened
all over again. Never been this sick
this long in my life.
Haven't mentioned it till now because
I was taught as a kid that being sick
was a sign of weakness and you just
ignore it and carry on. This is what
my parents were taught in the Depression.
So being sick embarassasses me because
it's a sign of weakness.
My mother spent 3 years in a horrible
Catholic orphanage when she was 8-11.
The nuns taught that if you could still
get out of bed, you could attend class
and do your chores. And get your bare
legs caned if you didn't.
Well hopefully one of those two bouts was coronavirus in your case. The more people that catch it, beat it, and can build an immunity is a good thing too.
The grocery stores around here have started having early-opening hours a couple of days per week, with restriction to senior-citizen customers, though different stores have different definitions of "senior." Our regular grocery store is now operating with regular hours beginning at 8a.m., but today seniors were to be allowed in at 7a.m. (EDT). We made it in the door at 7:10a.m. to find that the TP and paper towel shelves were empty, though many of the carts being pushed around the place contained one, the other, or both. Even though the store was operating on a one-package-to-a customer basis for those items, it appeared that arriving ten minutes after the doors were unlocked was far too late for critical-supply items.
I’ve been doing some reading on the COVID-19 and it is similar to the Spanish flu of 1918 and the bubonic plague of the 14th century. Its deadly potential is staggering. I used to think that our news outlets were making too big of a deal about this whole thing, but now I realize their concerns were warranted. Social distancing and staying at home as much as possible are keys to getting a handle on this situation.
Some things I didn’t want were sold out. The thing I did want but couldn’t get was Clorox wipes. Generally speaking, if I’d been on a general grocery run rather than a visit for specific items, it would have been hit and miss, and different hit and miss items than the last time I was there. But I could get butter, eggs, milk, scallions, a red pepper, a chunk of ham, etc. I got a 6 pack of paper towels and a bottle of Tylenol PM for Mrs.
Eh.
The good part is the 7lb eye of round roast I got last trip. I cut it into thirds and froze two of them, then made one last night: salt and pepper, a dusting of garlic powder. Then I did the 500* method. (500* for 20 minutes, then turn off the oven and let it sit, pull the roast when it hits the desired doneness. Mrs likes medium, so I pulled it at 135* and carryover took it to 139*. Then slice it with a really sharp knife as thin as you can.) that was a damn good Certified Angus Beef roast for $5/lb.
Quote: EvenBob<snip>Oddly,
Jan 23rd was my store trip before
March 4th, and got sick then 5 days
later on the 28th. This was worse
than the second time, no real fever
but almost non stop coughing for
2 weeks and extreme fatigue.<snip>
EvenBob,
Wow... I also fell ill on Jan. 28 with a persistent, nagging cough and fatigue that lasted nearly a month. The doctor said I had a bad cold, gave me prescriptions for cough medicine, antibiotics, and some inhaled meds, and sent me home.
Dog Hand
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I still don't know how they will get rid of this anytime soon unless they come up with a vaccine?
Quote: billryanSo the highly educated are smart because they pay more for the same items?
No, I just mean because they are smarter and more educated, they probably have a better paying job, and can therefore afford to pay more.
Quote: AxelWolfWhat about baby wipes or something like that instead of TP?
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I still don't know how they will get rid of this anytime soon unless they come up with a vaccine?
Baby wipes are hard on the sewers as they don’t break down very well. They clog the sewers.
Quote: vegasBaby wipes are hard on the sewers as they don’t break down very well. They clog the sewers.
So don't flush them? Most of the world doesn't even try to flush TP.
Quote: AxelWolfI tried to convince my wife to bake bread. Her response was "yeah I'm not doing that"
She is downstairs right now making banana bread for me. I absolutely love banana bread.
Have you seen the video of the guy amped up about banana bread at work? Definitely worth a watch. Youtubing something like banana bread at work will find it for ya.
Quote: GreasyjohnI didn’t read every post in this thread, but I understand people’s desire to get toilet paper. It’s not really hoarding or greed, they just don’t want to run out.
I’ve been doing some reading on the COVID-19 and it is similar to the Spanish flu of 1918 and the bubonic plague of the 14th century. Its deadly potential is staggering. I used to think that our news outlets were making too big of a deal about this whole thing, but now I realize their concerns were warranted. Social distancing and staying at home as much as possible are keys to getting a handle on this situation.
This is a few days behind on comparisons, but still interesting
https://youtu.be/n4no04822NQ?t=66
You lost me at the word work. 😄Quote: MintyHave you seen the video of the guy amped up about banana bread at work? Definitely worth a watch. Youtubing something like banana bread at work will find it for ya.
Quote: AxelWolfYou lost me at the word work. 😄
You seem pretty calm, Axel. Without giving details, if you don't want to, are you doing any on line plays now? Have you increased them since the casino closure in Vegas? I can't remember, does your wifey have a regular job or does she AP with you?
Quote: SOOPOOHmmm.... I'll answer that. I guess I qualify as highly educated. I just prefer to shop at Wegman's instead of Walmart under normal circumstances. I know that for some items I am just paying more than if I shopped at Walmart. Under normal circumstances I don't want to make two separate trips. The service Wegman's is providing during this crisis is stellar. I will continue to pay more after this crisis is over.
(I do buy the two liter sodas for 75 cents each)
When I went to school in Rochester in the 1980s, I'd never seen a store like Wegmans. I'd grown up mostly shopping in Army commissaries that had little choice and nothing but food. Even after he retired, my father did most of the shopping but on Long Island there was nothing like Wegmanns. I can only imagine what they offer these days.
I only recently went to my first Walmart and it was only be cause opticians are scarce in Southern Arizona.
It was an hour ride to Walmart or a two hour ride to Vision World.
Quote: SOOPOOYou seem pretty calm, Axel. Without giving details, if you don't want to, are you doing any on line plays now? Have you increased them since the casino closure in Vegas? I can't remember, does your wifey have a regular job or does she AP with you?
I do have some things going on online. Either way, I have enough not to worry about money,I have little in Bitcoin/ crypto and silver. I don't currently hold any stocks so that's not a burden right now(I guess I should probably buy some).
We don't have a huge nut, everything's bought and paid for. Both of us could live on $1,200 a month and eat well.
She hasn't worked since about 07-08. She will play occasionally, usually when it's a big play, or she will help do some pickups and get cards, of course. She will travel with me sometimes as well, it really just depends on if she's in the mood or not. She used to play quite a bit and she seemed to enjoy it but not as much lately.
We stocked up fairly well with food that we would actually enjoy normally, no beans or rice... other than a normal amount(a little more food hoarding wouldn't hurt). I even got a firearm as both and investment and a just in case., I enjoy being at home messing about doing what I want when I want and not having to get up at a certain time or have be somewhere. I've already had a barbecue twice this week.
Quote: TigerWuNo, I just mean because they are smarter and more educated, they probably have a better paying job, and can therefore afford to pay more.
I would say people don't want to go to Walmart, because shopping takes longer and getting there is less convenient than staying where you live. Their time is more valuable than the money and the square footage of Walmarts take a long time to navigate.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI would say people don't want to go to Walmart, because shopping takes longer and getting there is less convenient than staying where you live. Their time is more valuable than the money and the square footage of Walmarts take a long time to navigate.
I am with you. Walmart is an investment in time as opposed to money. You save money but lose time. I used to go to Walmart about once a month but I am now down to about twice a year. All of my non-grocery purchases are online now.
Quote: onenickelmiracleI would say people don't want to go to Walmart, because shopping takes longer and getting there is less convenient than staying where you live. Their time is more valuable than the money and the square footage of Walmarts take a long time to navigate.
I want to and do go to Walmart and it's quicker than HEB, and you might try using your eyes to navigate - works for me.
15 pounds of thighs, so my freezer is
full again. Felt like Xmas morning, I
hate it. My freezer holds 40 pounds
of meat, which is fine. I used to have
a full size chest freezer and you waste
too much food. A smaller one lets
you cycle thru it faster.
I'm a frequent Shopper at Walmart and that's mainly because of the prices and convenience of having everything at one location.Quote: onenickelmiracleI would say people don't want to go to Walmart, because shopping takes longer and getting there is less convenient than staying where you live. Their time is more valuable than the money and the square footage of Walmarts take a long time to navigate.
Their customer service completely sucks, many of the of the employees seem to really hate their job and for the most part they're very unhelpful. Many of the customers seem to be on crack/meth or whatever and have mental issues, that's what I actually dislike the most.
For electronics, Fry's here in Las Vegas seems to have the most friendly, helpful and knowledgeable people and their prices are fairly competitive. It sucks that they're all quite far from me. BestBuy sucks because they're too expensive.
Quote: AxelWolfMany of the customers seem to be on crack/meth or whatever and have mental issues, that's what I actually dislike the most.
When I was in Vegas, regular cops were almost always on scene about something. Walmart security department stayed pretty active.
Where I live now, you barely see regular security at the Walmart, much less the cops.
Quote: Suited89I've always considered Walmartians part of the free entertainment.
I never see anybody weird at Walmart,
just average people. But my Walmart
isn't in 'that' part of town. The one on
the South side is, it's a zoo. We have
5 Walmarts, I've only been to two of
them.
The crowd was about 60% of what it normally is on a Sunday afternoon. People did a good job of maintaining distance. Cart wipes were available at the door. I didn’t feel like I was risking anything.
Eastern PA is in a dicey spot. Many “essential workers” from NYC live in the Poconos and commute via bus. Cases in Monroe County are growing steadily. Martz Trailways just suspended NYC service Thursday, probably too late.
For some reason I am reminded of the decades-old movie of a Beverly Hills housewife and two daughters who are suddenly uprooted to rural Australia. The California kids have all these electronic devices for music-listening, the Australian kids play their own musical instruments, The Americans are dumbfounded to learn that the expensive diesel-generated power goes off at 8:00pm.Quote: AxelWolfI tried to convince my wife to bake bread. Her response was "yeah I'm not doing that"
She is downstairs right now making banana bread for me. I absolutely love banana bread.
It is similar with the equipment and inclination for home baking and caning. We may have become to reliant on consumer packaged goods,
Cakelike breads (like banana breads) are much simpler in comparison; a lot of recipes can be shortcutted to a single container and phase... but I don't really like them, so go figure. Been making a lot of it for my family though, since they like it.
