AN AP NIGHTMARE
Quote: billryanPeople collect players cards. There is a market for them on ebay,with some 300 listed daily, as well as at least one website dedicated to the hobby. Thinking the police are going to do something to you about a number of players cards being stolen is as ridiculous as this entire thread. Possessing a casino player card outside a casino is most certainly not a crime. I'd think the leader of such an advanced team would have some sort of legal advisor.
It was a dark and stormy night.....
Anybody who purchases players cards on ebay is an idiot if its for AP
Bill, I dont think you understand the play if you think these are Ebay players cards
Quote: WizardI'll let that go, since he didn't say who is retarded. However, if he stated a certain group of people, like Trump/Clinton voters, were retarded, then he would be.
Also, can an objective statement of fact be an insult?
Quote: billryanPeople collect players cards. There is a market for them on ebay,with some 300 listed daily, as well as at least one website dedicated to the hobby.
I've got a stack about six inches high of them. Might they be worth anything?
Quote: RigondeauxAlso, can an objective statement of fact be an insult?
I think not, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
As I understand it, yes. I believe past precedent was that calling another member a 'troll' is considered a personal insult, even if that member is a troll.Quote: RigondeauxAlso, can an objective statement of fact be an insult?
Regardless, I am enjoying this thread. I hope you wrap this up tomorrow, Darkoz. I don't know that I will be able to check the forum over the weekend!
Quote: WizardI've got a stack about six inches high of them. Might they be worth anything?
no one should have that many confidantes knowing their secret stashes.
Quote: FleaStiff
no one should have that many confidantes knowing their secret stashes.
That's why this is fiction. Nobody smart
enough to beat the casino on a regular
basis would ever tell so many people
about it, or where the money is kept.
That would be insane.
Quote: darkozAnybody who purchases players cards on ebay is an idiot if its for AP
Bill, I dont think you understand the play if you think these are Ebay players cards
I understand what the players cards were for. You said words to the effect that you didn't want the police involved because of the players cards. I was merely trying to help out your screenplay by pointing out the police wouldn't care about the cards. As you claim you have everyones permission, getting duplicate cards shouldn't be hard. Next time get two copies and don't keep them in the same location. Ever hear about the little girl who kept all her eggs in one basket and ripped while running?
Just this weekend, McManus Auctions sold cases of blank Stardusts cards. The hobby is still in its infancy. I think the oldest cards aren't even thirty years old yet, but some cards are very desirable. There was a demand for Trump labeled cards but that seems to have slowed down.
Quote: JoemanAs I understand it, yes. I believe past precedent was that calling another member a 'troll' is considered a personal insult, even if that member is a troll.
Trollness is a matter of opinion.
Quote: WizardQuote: JoemanAs I understand it, yes. I believe past precedent was that calling another member a 'troll' is considered a personal insult, even if that member is a troll.
Trollness is a matter of opinion.
Wouldn't "trolliness" be the way to say it?
Quote: billryanI understand what the players cards were for. You said words to the effect that you didn't want the police involved because of the players cards. I was merely trying to help out your screenplay by pointing out the police wouldn't care about the cards. As you claim you have everyones permission, getting duplicate cards shouldn't be hard. Next time get two copies and don't keep them in the same location. Ever hear about the little girl who kept all her eggs in one basket and ripped while running?
Just this weekend, McManus Auctions sold cases of blank Stardusts cards. The hobby is still in its infancy. I think the oldest cards aren't even thirty years old yet, but some cards are very desirable. There was a demand for Trump labeled cards but that seems to have slowed down.
Based on your post it sounds like you are the writer of fiction
Police who find a stolen cache of casino cards in other people's names and dont care
Stardust cards from 30 years ago that mean anything to an AP for value
Now thats some fiction
Police come to your house. You say you had $25,000 in cash and a bunch of casino cards stolen. What do you think they would do? Demand a list of names on the cards?
Report you to casinos on suspicion of having had stolen property? A good way to have ended your story was to have discovered a few of the stolen cards on ebay and the seller was someone who did some work for you.
I 'm struggling with the guy who is sharp enough to terrorize the East Coast Casinos couldn't figure out someone in your life spent six years in prison. How did your daughter take the news?
If you want to publish your works, you should be able to deal with legit criticism. Or do you want only positive reviews and a trophy when its over?
Quote: billryanI never said they meant anything to an AP. They hold value to people who collect casino memorabilia. Believe it or not, that is a much wider audience than the AP community.
Police come to your house. You say you had $25,000 in cash and a bunch of casino cards stolen. What do you think they would do? Demand a list of names on the cards?
Report you to casinos on suspicion of having had stolen property? A good way to have ended your story was to have discovered a few of the stolen cards on ebay and the seller was someone who did some work for you.
I 'm struggling with the guy who is sharp enough to terrorize the East Coast Casinos couldn't figure out someone in your life spent six years in prison. How did your daughter take the news?
If you want to publish your works, you should be able to deal with legit criticism. Or do you want only positive reviews and a trophy when its over?
I am down for trophys and positive reviews:)
I think whats annoying me is you keep saying "a good way to end your story"
There is only one way this ends. Thats the way it actually happened
I have never been called a liar so much in one thread
Quote: RSThe police suck when it comes to any kind of investigation. My few dealings with them, they basically tried to do the least amount of effort possible. Even when I gave them damn near 100% evidence of who it was (video surveillance), they were like nahhhh, could’a been someone else so not checking into it.
I think it’s kinda funny that Zcore loves to offer all this advice all the time and it’s always wrong. Lol
Yeah, it's wrong to call the police. And I've been wrong about ZK is going to be wrong and get arrested. And I was wrong that a furry video game would never make it. And I'm wrong that nobody can control a legal craps throw to gain an advantage. Always wrong. Lol.
ZCore13
What does insanity have to do with it? Lots of crazy people get rich. I once got invited to a reunion lunch for a group who had been under involuntary holds in the mental hospital together, Some bright, some not but all clever. Hollywood scriptwriter was t.he wackiest and the richest. They made money on various hustles, no one there was 9-5.Quote: EvenBobThat would be insane.
Smart enough to get an edge on a casino? Doesn't mean you are not crazy.
Quote: Zcore13Yeah, it's wrong to call the police. And I've been wrong about ZK is going to be wrong and get arrested. And I was wrong that a furry video game would never make it. And I'm wrong that nobody can control a legal craps throw to gain an advantage. Always wrong. Lol.
ZCore13
No one said being wrong was an easy gig.
Quote: MaxPenNo one said being wrong was an easy gig.
I wouldn't know. And in this case, you dont call the police because it's a shady operation. You risk arrest and attorneys fees, even if it turns out there was techniquely nothing illegal about it.
Ask 100 people about a scenario where they would get 100's of players cards not in your name and use them on low HA or +EV progressives to earn lots of points, comps, gifts and drawing entries. Then when the jackpot hits, everyone gets a piece. 90 would say that sounds shady.
ZCore13
Or clever.Quote: Zcore13Ask 100 people about a scenario where they would get 100's of players cards not in your name and use them on low HA or +EV progressives to earn lots of points, comps, gifts and drawing entries. Then when the jackpot hits, everyone gets a piece. 90 would say that sounds shady.ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13I wouldn't know. And in this case, you dont call the police because it's a shady operation. You risk arrest and attorneys fees, even if it turns out there was techniquely nothing illegal about it.
Ask 100 people about a scenario where they would get 100's of players cards not in your name and use them on low HA or +EV progressives to earn lots of points, comps, gifts and drawing entries. Then when the jackpot hits, everyone gets a piece. 90 would say that sounds shady.
ZCore13
Lol
That is not how multi-carding works
Quote: gamerfreakI still can’t get over that the Daughter’s boyfriends knee jerk reaction to being accused of theft is to burgle someone else’s house to prove his innocence. All while he is on parole for burglary.
This AP team is touted as being "most feared" not the "brightest"......😉
Quote: Zcore13
Ask 100 people about a scenario where they would get 100's of players cards not in your name and use them on low HA or +EV progressives to earn lots of points, comps, gifts and drawing entries. Then when the jackpot hits, everyone gets a piece. 90 would say that sounds shady.
ZCore13
I would consider any marketing technique that isn't revealed upfront to a customer shady. Casinos ever do anything like that? Shady but legal?
I actually think there are shady activities on each side of the business. Legal. But shady. Doesn't make anything necessarily better, just sayin'.
Quote: MaxPenThis AP team is touted as being "most feared" not the "brightest"......😉
I was going to post something like that with a little less oomph i suppose
I know of at least 20 casinos that are aware of my team on the East Coast
I am in Biometrica (and dont care. It has not affected me one bit. Any casino handing bio-metrica money is being ripped off by them not me)
I have seen police bulletins for me with wording to the effect of "Be on the lookout for this guy. He is NOT currently wanted but was last seen here and here"
So yes, most feared.
Dont confuse feared with largest or most financially successful or whatever. I claim to be most feared only
Your claim of most feared is difficult to substantiate.
Quote: rainmanMaybe you should say self-proclaimed most feared.
Your claim of most feared is difficult to substantiate.
It's "most feared". Just let it be.
Quote: darkozLol
That is not how multi-carding works
It was just a guess. I would never be interested in anything like this, no matter how much money I could make, so I have no idea. Funny name you gave it though.
ZCore13
Quote: mcallister3200I thought he also said most secretive at the time of the original quote/secret? No sense trying to claim that one anymore either way.
I dont remember claiming most secretive AP team
Think you have me confused with someone else
Quote: rainmanMaybe you should say self-proclaimed most feared.
Your claim of most feared is difficult to substantiate.
Agreed
But I am holding that title until some other AP team challenges me on it
And then we can dukeit out
EDIT: And I do say on the East Coast. I never claimed most feared everywhere.
I am not totally smug
*sips coffee, pets cat*
From what I have heard DarkOz can dress up and play the ex-girlfriend himself. (-;Quote: gordonm888Just announced: George Clooney is signed to play DarkOz in the movie version of this thread. Mike Shackleford will make a cameo appearance, playing himself.
Who should play the girlfriend? The ex-girlfriend? The daughter? The daughter's boyfriend? The son?
I suggest Danny Devito for EvenBob.
Quote: AxelWolfFrom what I have heard DarkOz can dress up and play the ex-girlfriend himself. (-;
I am a man of many disguises
EDIT: It might be a little difficult since my ex-girlfriend is a different skin color
Quote: billryanSo Dark Oz is the killer?
There is a killer in this story?
Thats my other thread
Quote: darkozI dont remember claiming most secretive AP team
Think you have me confused with someone else
Can’t believe I looked it up, don’t know how to quote from another thread. Nathan’s “tell a secret in here” thread, page two. “Most feared secretive and well known.” And humble too:)
I thought you just dressed in drag for fun.Quote: darkozI am a man of many disguises
EDIT: It might be a little difficult since my ex-girlfriend is a different skin color
Quote: darkozI am a man of many disguises
EDIT: It might be a little difficult since my ex-girlfriend is a different skin color
C Thomas Howell solved that problem in Soul Man.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091991/?ref_=nv_sr_1
Quote: mcallister3200Can’t believe I looked it up, don’t know how to quote from another thread. Nathan’s “tell a secret in here” thread, page two. “Most feared secretive and well known.” And humble too:)
Tell A Secret In Here is NOT my thread. I did, however revive it after it had been dead for like 2 months and it had another burst in popularity. ;)
Quote: Zcore13I wouldn't know. And in this case, you dont call the police because it's a shady operation. You risk arrest and attorneys fees, even if it turns out there was techniquely nothing illegal about it.
Ask 100 people about a scenario where they would get 100's of players cards not in your name and use them on low HA or +EV progressives to earn lots of points, comps, gifts and drawing entries. Then when the jackpot hits, everyone gets a piece. 90 would say that sounds shady.
ZCore13
what the f... I've been missing out on alot of gifts and drawing entries! ;p
Quote: Zcore13It was just a guess. I would never be interested in anything like this, no matter how much money I could make,
After ferreting out some on the details
on the players card play. it's way too much
work, I would never do it. Not even very
clever. I call it 'sledgehammer AP-ing'
Why use finesse when you can take
a 16 pound hammer and keep beating
something till it breaks and then move
on to another one.
And the casino will find a way to stop or
curtail it, they always do. "Oh Bob, we
aren't doing what you think we're doing."
Sure you are. You think it's cleverness
personified, when in reality it's one step
up from using a light wand on the old
coin machines..
Crap!
Gimme a fee hours to cool down
Quote: AxelWolfI thought you just dressed in drag for fun.
For like the fifth time
I dont dress in drag.
I have dated people who do.
Dont know why you cant keep that one straight(pun intended)
Quote: EvenBobAfter ferreting out some on the details
on the players card play. it's way too much
work, I would never do it. Not even very
clever. I call it 'sledgehammer AP-ing'
Why use finesse when you can take
a 16 pound hammer and keep beating
something till it breaks and then move
on to another one.
And the casino will find a way to stop or
curtail it, they always do. "Oh Bob, we
aren't doing what you think we're doing."
Sure you are. You think it's cleverness
personified, when in reality it's one step
up from using a light wand on the old
coin machines..
Well they better hurry up. Been six years for me and longer for a few other AP's on here
I suspect I will be doing this until the wall is built on the border
Tell me again.Quote: darkozFor like the fifth time
I'm not sure what one is worst/better.Quote: darkoz
I dont dress in drag.
I have dated people who do.
