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darkoz
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January 21st, 2019 at 2:51:07 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

I definitely would invite the ex girlfriend along. She was the one who tipped you off first about the Robber's shady past. And she stuck by you to get to the bottom of this and helped your daughter out. She could have easily took the lie detector test, was proven innocent after passing with flying colors, and then bounced carefree and not help out in anyway catching the Criminal Culprit, but she went above and beyond to help you and your daughter out. Inviting her along to the family vacation would be a nice thank you.



She has unrelated personal issues that make it difficult for her to go however if those change she is always welcome
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January 21st, 2019 at 2:57:32 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Darkoz and others who use this multi
card play say, heck, everybody knows
about it, all the casinos, it's not illegal
in any way, doesn't violate any Fed
laws, it's not a big deal.

So lets discuss the details, then. Maybe
others want to do it, lets clue them in.
It's not illegal, casinos all know about
it and don't care, why all the secrecy.
We discuss other moves, like card counting,
dice moves, hole carding, why not discuss
this.



That’s not my point at all. My point is that he and others call it, “Making money,” which I imagine is even more important than calling it AP. As far as details, whoever wants to discuss it is free to do so; I choose not to.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:08:19 PM permalink
Why would anyone discuss it? It reminds me of the press conference the night before the launch of Desert Storm where a reporter asked the General if they had a secret plan to defeat Hussein and if so, would they share it? The next reporter kind of asked what part of the secret could be revealed without giving too much away.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:14:56 PM permalink
1. Always discriminate against anyone wearing a flat hat. 2. Don’t let people know where you’re safes are. Not sure about any other lessons learned here but there’s probably more. Glad you got to the bottom of it. Very good read, but that’s partly because you didn’t include the flat hatter in your original 5 suspects.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:17:24 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Why would anyone discuss it?



Why not, if it's so well known and
the casinos are so OK with it.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:25:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Why not, if it's so well known and
the casinos are so OK with it.




Go ahead, if you want.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:27:28 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Why not, if it's so well known and
the casinos are so OK with it.



From the animosity established on this forum to those who even mention it

thats why
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:27:54 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Why not, if it's so well known and
the casinos are so OK with it.

Because AP roulette is more interesting.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:36:55 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

From the animosity established on this forum to those who even mention it

thats why

fair enuff !
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:42:15 PM permalink
I hope you will understand darkoz why I want my card back. Keeps any proceeds, but I want my card back ASAP
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:50:28 PM permalink
Quote: jackmagic777

I hope you will understand darkoz why I want my card back. Keeps any proceeds, but I want my card back ASAP


That sounds like a PM DarkOz discussion rather than a in a public forum discussion.
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:52:52 PM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

That sounds like a PM DarkOz discussion rather than a in a public forum discussion.



Dude's been a member here for 10 days and none of his posts have anything to add. I'm pretty sure he'd contact DO personally if he knew him.


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January 21st, 2019 at 3:55:07 PM permalink
Quote: jackmagic777

I hope you will understand darkoz why I want my card back. Keeps any proceeds, but I want my card back ASAP



Uh oh tension amongst the team.

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January 21st, 2019 at 3:55:33 PM permalink
You guys really don't get sarcasm, do you?
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January 21st, 2019 at 3:58:47 PM permalink
Quote: RonC

None of my fellow APs has PM'd me the how-to manual on this play.

Wat...nevermind...I am not an AP!

I do agree about secrets--once you tell anyone, you can't consider it a secret anymore. It may not be 100% true...but it is a great place to start.



I surely didn't get any PMs over asking how this worked. I doubt Axel Wolf or anyone else that actually may do this play got any either. But Bob, who admitted in the thread that he never was aware of this play, gets 3 PMs asking about it???

Quote: billryan

I thought your three PMs filled you in on everything.



No, the 3 PMs asked Bob how it worked after darkoz explained it on the forum. I wonder how many PMs dsrkoz got asking for more detail on how it worked. And asking him actually makes a bit of sense instead of Bob who has yet to look for opportunities outside of a roulette wheel, afaik. But my guess is no one asked darkoz either in PM.
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:12:21 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

No, the 3 PMs asked Bob how it worked after darkoz explained it on the forum. I.



Yup. And I PM'd 3 people and 2 of
them filled in the blanks. They know
who they are, but they'll never say.
Not everybody here hates me, you
know. Just most..
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:15:59 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I surely didn't get any PMs over asking how this worked. I doubt Axel Wolf or anyone else that actually may do this play got any either. But Bob, who admitted in the thread that he never was aware of this play, gets 3 PMs asking about it???



No, the 3 PMs asked Bob how it worked after darkoz explained it on the forum. I wonder how many PMs dsrkoz got asking for more detail on how it worked. And asking him actually makes a bit of sense instead of Bob who has yet to look for opportunities outside of a roulette wheel, afaik. But my guess is no one asked darkoz either in PM.



Aside from operational functionality of my team I never explained how it works

I.e. any member here is free to collect as many casino cards as he wanta just like me.

And then what? I didnt explain how to get the offers. Once someone has the offers taking them is obvious. If you dont know how to get them you know nothing

Some casinos once you have the offers if you abuse them the cards will be turned off. I know how to avoid that. Many dont. Even having the offers doesnt mean you can effect the play.

As for jackrabbit or magic or whomever he is that must be sarcasm because I dont know who he is

And yes I recieved a very small amount of pms asking for advice on the play I either ignored or politely declined.
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January 21st, 2019 at 4:16:05 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Not everybody here hates me, you know. Just most..


We all try to be civil here.
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January 21st, 2019 at 5:42:50 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

The entire story is 7 posts spread through the thread. They are pretty easy to identify by my heading and length. You read the initial post already.

ok, found your conclusion post.
she was with him for 13years?
and after all that time, he (fiancé) decides to rob you now?
WTF?!???

(still searching for your story posts 2-6)
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January 21st, 2019 at 5:51:56 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

ok, found your conclusion post.
she was with him for 13years?
and after all that time, he (fiancé) decides to rob you now?
WTF?!???

(still searching for your story posts 2-6)



Best read it in order

You are getting the people confused
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January 21st, 2019 at 6:23:31 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Best read it in order

You are getting the people confused

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/32266-an-ap-nightmare/41/#post694833
"We were together 13 years. I know him. I can tell something is about to happen. Something bad."

that's not your daughter talking about her fiancé?

ok,will keep searching for rest of your main story posts
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January 21st, 2019 at 6:38:14 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/32266-an-ap-nightmare/41/#post694833

"We were together 13 years. I know him. I can tell something is about to happen. Something bad."

ok,will keep searching for rest of your main story posts

Refers to the ex-son in law.
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January 21st, 2019 at 6:47:24 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Refers to the ex-son in law.

ahhh... thx!

so how long has the daughter been with the fiancé?

and holy, phone with no password and with incriminating evidence?
'most criminals are lazy and stupid' indeed!


edit:
I assume he stopped seeing his parole officer AFTER the robbery?

edit2:
now have found story posts 1,7,6,5
like a bad soap opera, must.continue.searching for the other 3 posts just to find out the backstory with the daughter and fiancé.
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January 21st, 2019 at 6:50:13 PM permalink
Same can be said for people who won't go read the thread posts in order :)
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January 21st, 2019 at 6:56:11 PM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

I surely didn't get any PMs over asking how this worked. I doubt Axel Wolf or anyone else that actually may do this play got any either. But Bob, who admitted in the thread that he never was aware of this play, gets 3 PMs asking about it???



FWIW, I received one PM related to the subject matter. I’m not going to say anything else about that, of course. I’m also not going to go into any meaningful details, PM or otherwise, about the how-tos. The PM just more or less asked if there are any useful AP tactics related to the subject.

Obviously, the fact that some would have the subject matter suppressed (and the fact that I have little to no desire to discuss it myself) is kind of its own answer to that.

Quote:


No, the 3 PMs asked Bob how it worked after darkoz explained it on the forum. I wonder how many PMs dsrkoz got asking for more detail on how it worked. And asking him actually makes a bit of sense instead of Bob who has yet to look for opportunities outside of a roulette wheel, afaik. But my guess is no one asked darkoz either in PM.



Maybe, maybe not. Who knows? Like I said, I received one PM pertinent to the question.
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January 21st, 2019 at 7:02:34 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

Same can be said for people who won't go read the thread posts in order :)

lol
only stupid if this whole thread was a hoax. but either way, it's intriguing
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January 21st, 2019 at 7:38:09 PM permalink
Apparently kids in the diversionary program in my wife's school can't lock their phones so the staff and the resource officer can freely check their activity. My wife suggests that maybe the parole program required an unlocked phone in this case.
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January 22nd, 2019 at 11:24:31 AM permalink
Unlocked Phone: ☑️
No Pics of Incriminating Evidence Allowed: 🔲
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January 22nd, 2019 at 11:38:13 AM permalink
Quote: Mooseton

Unlocked Phone: ☑️
No Pics of Incriminating Evidence Allowed: 🔲



The first problem with it is that the pictures, by DarkOz’ admission, came from someone else’s phone. I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say that the former fiancé did not authorize DarkOz to post the pictures that belong to him.

Secondly, the pictures could be construed as identifying, especially if there is somehow a way to remove the edits. (I have no idea if that is possible.). Identifying the person or posting a picture could legitimately open the door to potential libel, at least in my opinion and I take it BBB and Wizard agree based on those being deleted.
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January 22nd, 2019 at 11:47:52 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

The first problem with it is that the pictures, by DarkOz’ admission, came from someone else’s phone. I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say that the former fiancé did not authorize DarkOz to post the pictures that belong to him.

Secondly, the pictures could be construed as identifying, especially if there is somehow a way to remove the edits. (I have no idea if that is possible.). Identifying the person or posting a picture could legitimately open the door to potential libel, at least in my opinion and I take it BBB and Wizard agree based on those being deleted.



I have no problem if Wiz and BBB wants to remove the pics

However looking just now they are still up. Pg. 33 of the thread

I know of no technology that would allow you to add pixels (removing the yellow digital paint shouldn't do it. Its not a physical layer but a digital pixel one. There should not be a "layer" underneath thats discoverable

However I am far from a digital forensics expert. I have experience in digital film production so going off that alone
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January 22nd, 2019 at 11:50:34 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

The first problem with it is that the pictures, by DarkOz’ admission, came from someone else’s phone. I’m going to go way out on a limb here and say that the former fiancé did not authorize DarkOz to post the pictures that belong to him.

Secondly, the pictures could be construed as identifying, especially if there is somehow a way to remove the edits. (I have no idea if that is possible.). Identifying the person or posting a picture could legitimately open the door to potential libel, at least in my opinion and I take it BBB and Wizard agree based on those being deleted.



Trying to hard to be funny on my behalf: ☑️

I can’t even explain it. 😅
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January 22nd, 2019 at 12:09:06 PM permalink
Is Axel still suspended??
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January 22nd, 2019 at 12:19:31 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Is Axel still suspended??



No, he got released early yesterday, as did the other two, on time.
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January 23rd, 2019 at 3:57:01 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

However, if he stated a certain group of people, like Trump/Clinton voters, were retarded, then he would be.

Wait, that's the 2020 ticket?!
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January 23rd, 2019 at 6:20:17 AM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

Wait, that's the 2020 ticket?!



Yes, but it's Roger Clinton.
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January 23rd, 2019 at 6:45:16 AM permalink
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Yes, but it's Roger Clinton.


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January 23rd, 2019 at 6:55:46 AM permalink
Quote: cmlotito

I'd rather have a Billy Beer.



It appears a second crime has been committed

A highjacking

Of this thread
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January 23rd, 2019 at 5:37:53 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Also, can an objective statement of fact be an insult?

Quote: Wizard

I think not, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

I got suspended for what I think was an objective statement of fact, though I did phrase it in a demeaning way. It was in response to someone who put words in my mouth, which to me, is itself pretty insulting, but doesn't seem to be covered by existing policy. Then again, I've also been insulted outright and no action was taken.
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January 23rd, 2019 at 6:32:39 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

I got suspended for what I think was an objective statement of fact,
.



I put a thank you on the above post
just to see Bluejay and Trump's pics
together. It looks like Bluejay is a
Trump supporter, lol.
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January 23rd, 2019 at 6:36:27 PM permalink
Quote: MichaelBluejay

Then again, I've also been insulted outright and no action was taken.



If you're referring to the CrystalMath insults, he was suspended twice over them for a total of 10.1416 days.
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January 23rd, 2019 at 6:39:49 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I put a thank you on the above post
just to see Bluejay and Trump's pics
together. It looks like Bluejay is a
Trump supporter, lol.



He’s a businessman, he loves Trump since it’s good for his business. Playing like he doesn’t is part of the act. Follow the money, it’s always makes it easier to see who is for and against Trump. If you have something you are afraid of losing that you didn’t earn, the Dems are your party. Work hard for what you have and understand anyone of sound body and mind can have anything they want to work for in this country, and you tend to be Republican.

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A complaint on the basis on personal insult and slander was made regarding the post above. The advice of the forum administrators is that you take the post above as satirical and in jest.

Boz shall be suspended for three days for personal insult and slander.

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January 23rd, 2019 at 6:47:09 PM permalink
Quote: Boz

He’s a businessman, he loves Trump since it’s good for his business. Playing like he doesn’t is part of the act. Follow the money, it’s always makes it easier to see who is for and against Trump. If you have something you are afraid of losing that you didn’t earn, the Dems are your party. Work hard for what you have and understand anyone of sound body and mind can have anything they want to work for in this country, and you tend to be Republican.



If that was ever true (about Dems and Reps), it certainly hasn't been since Jan 2017.
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January 24th, 2019 at 3:00:20 AM permalink
oh, yeah, politics belongs in this thread

what was I thinking? of course it is time to block it, silly me
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January 24th, 2019 at 7:51:12 AM permalink
Quote: odiousgambit

oh, yeah, politics belongs in this thread

what was I thinking? of course it is time to block it, silly me



Thanks for the reminder. It does bear repeating - keep the politics in the political threads.
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January 24th, 2019 at 8:09:35 AM permalink
"Give me that" = Democrat

"I'll take that" = Republican
"What, me worry?"
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January 24th, 2019 at 8:16:28 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

"Give me that" = Democrat

"I'll take that" = Republican



WARNING. Hijack. Did I not just say please keep the politics in the political threads? That wasn't an invitation to keep going here.
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January 24th, 2019 at 8:24:22 AM permalink
Oops.

Try this.

"Give me that" = ploppie

"I'll take that" = AP
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January 24th, 2019 at 8:32:21 AM permalink
So, anyone else gave a bad experience while AP`ing? Not sure if this would be the right thread to post in but it seems Darkoz's recounting is over.
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January 24th, 2019 at 9:37:40 AM permalink
Quote: cmlotito

So, anyone else gave a bad experience while AP`ing? Not sure if this would be the right thread to post in but it seems Darkoz's recounting is over.



One thing seems to happen more and more - underfunded machine APloppys run out of cash before finishing their plays, I sit down, I hit their thing, they stand there expecting me to refund their investment like they helped move the meter & now part of the proceeds are theirs.
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