Trump's Second and Third year in office
Quote: rsactuaryExactly. Mr. "provide a source for everything" doesn't have one.
I have a source - it's called reading, watching interviews and common sense -- to paraphrase BeachBumBabs when I asked her for proof that creepy porn lawyer was somehow given a special dispensation to review FBI/DOJ documents, I don't have time to do the research for you
Quote: aceofspadesI have a source - it's called reading, watching interviews and commons sense
You have to look at all sources and
not just the ones that say what you
want to hear. I listen to Scott Adams
not because he supported Trump,
but because he went into detail
about why Trump would win.
I look at CNN and MS because they
have a different take than mine. I read
The Hill and Politico and HuffPo and
others. And FoxNews and Rush and
Mark Levin and Hannity. It gives
me a rounded outlook.
Quote: aceofspadesI have a source - it's called reading, watching interviews and commons sense --
Doesn't really cut it
Tell you what
If you really really want to discuss spygate, gotta be patient
Have your congressman call for a special investigation into the spygate fantasy
Get back to me next year when the investigation is over :-)
That's what I am doing
I don't have the foggiest idea what Mueller has so I cant really discuss Russia
Once Mueller lays his cards on the table, will be happy to discuss Russia
Be patient
Quote: aceofspadesLil' Rocket Man now doing a Ralph Kramden "hummana hummana"
Huh?
Back to reality
Here's the story
NK agreed to meet US representatives in Singapore to prepare ahead of time
The WH sent their team to Singapore to meet with Kim's people
They were stood up
The team waited for 3 days in Singapore. Nothing. NK was a complete noshow and silent
The WH had no idea what was going on because NK stood them up and were silent for a week
Then a NK official called Mike Pence "politically dummy"
That's when Trump decided to draft his letter
I guess Trump had enough of being played by Kim
Looks to me like Kim was toying with Trump
The main reason I bet the no is because I was pretty confident Kim cant leave the country(next door China an exception). Few dictators can. Trump too much of a wimp to meet at the DMZ
For all the investigative skills and coverups republicans complain about, they don't produce much in the way of results.
Resultgate.
We already have indictments. More to come.
Quote: aceofspadesI have a source - it's called reading, watching interviews and common sense -- to paraphrase BeachBumBabs when I asked her for proof that creepy porn lawyer was somehow given a special dispensation to review FBI/DOJ documents, I don't have time to do the research for you
Thank god I didn't hold my breath.
Quote: aceofspadesI have a source - it's called reading, watching interviews and common sense -- to paraphrase BeachBumBabs when I asked her for proof that creepy porn lawyer was somehow given a special dispensation to review FBI/DOJ documents, I don't have time to do the research for you
#weak
you keep asking for citations.. and your response asking for one is nothing. credibility lost. good bye.
Quote: rsactuaryQuote: aceofspadesI have a source - it's called reading, watching interviews and common sense -- to paraphrase BeachBumBabs when I asked her for proof that creepy porn lawyer was somehow given a special dispensation to review FBI/DOJ documents, I don't have time to do the research for you
#weak
you keep asking for citations.. and your response asking for one is nothing. credibility lost. good bye.
Are you announcing that you are blocking me?
Calling me "weak" should equal a suspension...
Mods???
Quote: aceofspadesQuote: rsactuaryQuote: aceofspadesI have a source - it's called reading, watching interviews and common sense -- to paraphrase BeachBumBabs when I asked her for proof that creepy porn lawyer was somehow given a special dispensation to review FBI/DOJ documents, I don't have time to do the research for you
#weak
you keep asking for citations.. and your response asking for one is nothing. credibility lost. good bye.
Are you announcing that you are blocking me?
Calling me "weak" should equal a suspension...
Mods???
You gave him a weak, deflecting response. He called you on it. Once again, you took it personally. No insult.
WOW, OUCH!!!Quote: beachbumbabs
You gave him a weak, deflecting response. He called you on it. Once again, you took it personally. No insult.
So you get to make a call on his response and decide if it was weak or not and then make the call? Either calling someone weak is an insult or not. Had you said they called the post weak and that's not an insult, fine, but that's not what you are saying. Perhaps it was what you were saying, but there was no reason to back up the person saying it was weak, just say it's not a PI and be done with it. He already felt that was insulting and now you just doubled it down.
Quote: beachbumbabsQuote: aceofspadesQuote: rsactuaryQuote: aceofspadesI have a source - it's called reading, watching interviews and common sense -- to paraphrase BeachBumBabs when I asked her for proof that creepy porn lawyer was somehow given a special dispensation to review FBI/DOJ documents, I don't have time to do the research for you
#weak
you keep asking for citations.. and your response asking for one is nothing. credibility lost. good bye.
Are you announcing that you are blocking me?
Calling me "weak" should equal a suspension...
Mods???
You gave him a weak, deflecting response. He called you on it. Once again, you took it personally. No insult.
And, you provided me with no response for days about your Avenatti allegations and, ultimately, said it was something you heard
Then, you accused me of writing misogynistic posts in the past week - which, I did not do
Proven wrong, you gave me some sort of half-a$$ed apology
If the way you moderate this board is any indication of what I have missed the past two years, I regret the day I had myself unbanned
Quote: AxelWolfWOW, OUCH!!!
So you get to make a call on his response and decide if it was weak or not and then make the call? Either calling someone weak is an insult or not. Had you said they called the post weak and that's not an insult, fine, but that's not what you are saying.
I called his response weak. Calm down.
Quote: AxelWolfWOW, OUCH!!!
So you get to make a call on his response and decide if it was weak or not and then make the call? Either calling someone weak is an insult or not. Had you said they called the post weak and that's not an insult, fine, but that's not what you are saying.
Plus, I thought the Mission146 exception was no longer in play
It's all subjective and depends on how the mod feels personally about you (BBB likes to make accusations against me, then when she has zero evidence to back up those allegations, provides a #weak apology)
Quote: rsactuaryI called his response weak. Calm down.
There is no longer a Mission146 exception
Calling a response weak is the same as calling the person weak
Quote: AxelWolfWOW, OUCH!!!
So you get to make a call on his response and decide if it was weak or not and then make the call? Either calling someone weak is an insult or not. Had you said they called the post weak and that's not an insult, fine, but that's not what you are saying. Perhaps it was what you were saying, but there was no reason to back up the person saying it was weak, just say it's not a PI and be done with it. He already felt that was insulting and now you just doubled it down.
Apparently, it's all subjective - no hard and fast rules
Quote: aceofspadesThere is no longer a Mission146 exception
Calling a response weak is the same as calling the person weak
You have no credibility left. Done with you.
I know this and added more to my post. BBB should have just said you were attacking the post, not AOS. But why would she also say AOS post was weak?Quote: rsactuaryI called his response weak. Calm down.
Quote: rsactuaryYou have no credibility left. Done with you.
Are you announcing you are blocking me?
Quote: AxelWolfI know this and added more to my post. BBB should have just said you were attacking the post, not AOS. But why would she also say AOS post was weak?
Because she could neither back up her allegations about Avenatti nor her allegations against me so this is payback
Quote: aceofspadesAre you announcing you are blocking me?
Does it matter? do you care? if so, why? Is that a forum rule?
Quote: aceofspadesBecause she is biased against me for some reason
Maybe some introspection is in order.
Quote: rsactuaryDoes it matter? do you care? if so, why?
It's a yes or no question - was your statement an announcement that you are blocking me?
Oh, will your answer change if it is a forum rule?
As for forum rules, who knows what they are these days - apparently whatever BBB feels subjectively
Quote: aceofspadesIt's a yes or no question - was your statement an announcement that you are blocking me?
Oh, will your answer change if it is a forum rule?
Objection your honor, irrelevant. Maybe that will get through? I don't have to announce anything. Come back and have a reasonable conversation after you're done sulking in the corner.
Quote: rsactuaryObjection your honor, irrelevant. Maybe that will get through? I don't have to announce anything. Come back and have a reasonable conversation after you're done sulking in the corner.
Ahhh how quickly you change your tune -- why not stand behind your original intent?
And, we've already established I'm a fake attorney
Come on now, that's ridiculous. You can't go suspending people for calling someone's post inadequate or whatever. We would have nothing but suspensions. I would get suspended for saying what you said was ridiculous.Quote: aceofspadesThere is no longer a Mission146 exception
Calling a response weak is the same as calling the person weak
I don't think you can ask someone if they are a stupid F****** idiot.
Had someone said ALL your responses are weak, I would think that's a PI.
I just don't think BBB needed to express her opinion on your response. Had you had a strong response would have she then taken action? If not, why even comment on the strength of your post?
Quote: AxelWolfEXCERPT
I just don't think BBB needed to express her opinion on your response. Had you had a strong response would have she then taken action? If not, why even comment on the strength of your post?
Agreed -- a mod commenting on a forum member's request for a ruling is not de rigueur
Quote: aceofspadesAhhh how quickly you change your tune -- why not stand behind your original intent?
And, we've already established I'm a fake attorney
I have not changed my tune. I can do what I want on this forum with respect to your posts, and what I do with them is none of your business. What is your motive here?
Quote: rsactuaryI have not changed my tune. I can do what I want on this forum with respect to your posts, and what I do with them is none of your business. What is your motive here?
#WEAK
#NONSENSE
#WHATISYOURMOTIVEHERE
Quote: aceofspades#WEAK
#NONSENSE
#WHATISYOURMOTIVEHERE
Well you clear attempt at trying to get me to insult you so that I get suspended has not worked. Good night. Try and keep your posts on topic going forward. Thanks.
Quote: rsactuaryWell you clear attempt at trying to get me to insult you so that I get suspended has not worked. Good night. Try and keep your posts on topic going forward. Thanks.
#GOODNIGHTANDGOODLUCK
Quote: aceofspades
Then, you accused me of writing misogynistic posts in the past week - which, I did not do
Proven wrong, you gave me some sort of half-a$$ed apology
I thought you only deserved a half-assed apology. That's all I would ever give you in the same situation. see link
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/222/#post647285
Quote: rxwineI thought you only deserved a half-assed apology. That's all I would ever give you in the same situation. see link
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/30375-trumps-second-and-third-year-in-office/222/#post647285
Too bad those links are years old and BBB did not reference them - she mentioned that I was making such posts recently - which is untrue
Thanks for your input
#WEAK
Quote: aceofspades
Thanks for your input
Anytime.
Quote: aceofspades
Quote: aceofspades
Is this the only play in your playbook, calling for unnecessary suspensions when people get the best of you?
If anyone needs a timeout it's you for derailing the last four pages of this thread.
Quote: ams288Quote: aceofspadesQuote: aceofspades
Is this the only play in your playbook, calling for unnecessary suspensions when people get the best of you?
If anyone needs a timeout it's you for derailing the last four pages of this thread.
Agreed, and to add to that I find the behavior of publicly appealing to the mods for something to be tiresome.
Quote: aceofspadesAgreed -- a mod commenting on a forum member's request for a ruling is not de rigueur
Perhaps not, and there's been not few complaints about just that. But here, forever, mods are also members, and are free to act as such. While this intermixing surely results in issues like this, I can't say I've ever seen a volunteer to pay for truly independent supervision.
Fortunately, you're free to ignore our opinions without issue.
Quote: aceofspadesPlus, I thought the Mission146 exception was no longer in play
It's all subjective and depends on how the mod feels personally about you (BBB likes to make accusations against me, then when she has zero evidence to back up those allegations, provides a #weak apology)
Mission retired. And based on what I've seen and know, I would add "with honors". I see no reason anything he's said or done would not apply, unless purging the forum of his actions has been discussed and I missed it. If so, kindly provide a link so I can catch up.
Or, if you don't want to waste your time, what you call the "Mission exception" was decreed by Wiz long before Mission was ever here. Attack the post, not the poster. Calling your post "weak" is an opinion, and one on your post.
Quote: aceofspades
If the way you moderate this board is any indication of what I have missed the past two years, I regret the day I had myself unbanned
Don't make me guess; what can I help you with? I can't make Mr Sanctuary(sic) unblock you or other members not respond to you, but it seems your issue is Ms Babs. I bet if I asked her nicely I could get her to ignore you. I could offer to be your personal concierge. I have no power to keep other mods off you, but I could be so close none could act before I already have, sort of eliminating their input. Whatchu need, Ace?
I suppose if it comes to that, there's no martingale on self bans. No need to sit out 2 years. You let me know. Ask and I'll see how close to your wishes I can get.
Take your time, think about it, and get back to me. Until then, enjoy this beautiful day. I'm taking my boy fishing now, so no hurry.
Quote: aceofspadesThanks for the comedic break LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
All you had to do was provide a source to substantiate the claims that the FBI planted a spy in the Trump campaign to spy on the Trump campaign. But since McConnell himself said there was "nothing surprising" that came out of the briefings yesterday, and we'll assume that a spy planted in the Trump campaign would qualify as surprising, we'll chalk this up to yet ANOTHER conspiracy that the right is floating as a means of distraction for those easily distracted.
Quote: SteverinosAll you had to do was provide a source to substantiate the claims that the FBI planted a spy in the Trump campaign to spy on the Trump campaign. But since McConnell himself said there was "nothing surprising" that came out of the briefings yesterday, and we'll assume that a spy planted in the Trump campaign would qualify as surprising, we'll chalk this up to yet ANOTHER conspiracy that the right is floating as a means of distraction for those easily distracted.
So, McConnell saying it was "nothing surprising" is your evidence that there was no spying? It amazes me that you would be ok with the spying or "informing" on a Presidential campaign - does that mean you would be ok with Trump doing that to the next Dem candidate?
Yet, you believe in a Russia collusion conspiracy LOLOLOL
#WEAK
#EASILYDISTRACTED
#NOTHINGSURPRISING
Quote: aceofspadesSo, McConnell saying it was "nothing surprising" is your evidence that there was no spying
Expect Hillary to announce that she lost
because no spies were put in her campaign
to 'protect' her from the Russians. LOLOL
Quote: aceofspadesAs for forum rules, who knows what they are these days - apparently whatever BBB feels subjectively
I have been kidding myself because I'm
a kid at heart and have learned not to
kid others about their kiddiness..
Quote: aceofspadesSo, McConnell saying it was "nothing surprising" is your evidence that there was no spying? It amazes me that you would be ok with the spying or "informing" on a Presidential campaign - does that mean you would be ok with Trump doing that to the next Dem candidate?
Yet, you believe in a Russia collusion conspiracy LOLOLOL
??????????
I don't listen to McConnell
I am not for spying on a campaign
Where does that come from?
I don't believe in spygate and you believe in spygate
fine
This can easily be resolved.
Demand an investigation. I have no problem with that. I was ok with Benghazi , Ken Starr and voter fraud
Once the investigation has been completed, get back to me with the spygate proof.
I think its a complete nothing burger but will support an investigation into a nothing burger
As to Russia
Be patient. Could be a nothing burger. Could be people are going to jail
I don't know
Still waiting on Mueller to show his cards
Quote: terapined??????????
I don't listen to McConnell
I am not for spying on a campaign
Where does that come from?
I don't believe in spygate and you believe in spygate
fine
This can easily be resolved.
Demand an investigation. I have no problem with that. I was ok with Benghazi , Ken Starr and voter fraud
Once the investigation has been completed, get back to me with the spygate proof.
I think its a complete nothing burger but will support an investigation into a nothing burger
As to Russia
Be patient. Could be a nothing burger. Could be people are going to jail
I don't know
Still waiting on Mueller to show his cards
Where did I say you listen to McConnell? I never quoted you on that
Quote:U.S. military members have gotten a pay raise every year for the past 10 years and several have been larger than this year's 2.6 percent increase. Pay increases in 2008, 2009 and 2010, for example, were 3.4 percent or more.
Eh, so he remembers a hard fight for their first pay raise in 10 years?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/ap-fact-check-trump-is-wrong-about-military-pay-ships/ar-AAxOe9g?ocid=spartanntp
Quote: aceofspadesIt amazes me that you would be ok with the spying or "informing" on a Presidential campaign
Not only do I support the FBI opening a counterintelligence investigation into a hostile foreign power's efforts to infiltrate our presidential elections, I expect it. I would consider it a dereliction of duty if they didn't.
YOU, or your side, or whatever, has made the accusation. The burden of proof is not on ME, our my side. Show us the evidence? You won't, and can't, because it is another made up conspiracy meant to devalue the special counsel's findings.
As to what I do or don't believe in, you don't know me so you haven't a clue what I think. But if we're keeping score:
17 indictments
5 guilty pleas
Quote: aceofspadesWhere did I say you listen to McConnell? I never quoted you on that
Its simply a statement of fact
I don't listen to McConnell
Quote: SteverinosNot only do I support the FBI opening a counterintelligence investigation into a hostile foreign power's efforts to infiltrate our presidential elections, I expect it. I would consider it a dereliction of duty if they didn't.
YOU, or your side, or whatever, has made the accusation. The burden of proof is not on ME, our my side. Show us the evidence? You won't, and can't, because it is another made up conspiracy meant to devalue the special counsel's findings.
As to what I do or don't believe in, you don't know me so you haven't a clue what I think. But if we're keeping score:
17 indictments
5 guilty pleas
Not sure what evidence you need, and it does take some reading, maybe what your requesting is here, [or not?]
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-24/fbi-spy-halper-made-false-absurd-claims-russian-infiltration-cambridge-involving
"FBI informant Stefan Halper, who infiltrated the Trump campaign for the FBI during the 2016 election for the purposes of espionage"
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-23/trump-gloats-look-how-things-have-turned-around-criminal-deep-state "Since the New York Times and Washington Post on Friday confirmed speculation that the FBI did, in fact, have a mole inside the Trump campaign"
" we now know that the bureau FBI enlisted Stefan Halper, a US citizen, political veteran and longtime US Intelligence asset, to befriend and spy on three members of the Trump campaign during the 2016 US election. "
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/388978-growing-signs-of-a-counterintelligence-operation-deployed-against-trumps
Also: https://spectator.org/john-brennans-plot-to-infiltrate-the-trump-campaign/
"Brennan had used it, along with later half-baked tips from British intelligence, as the justification to form a multi-agency spy operation (given the Orwellian designation of an “inter-agency taskforce”) on the Trump campaign, which he was running right out of CIA headquarters."
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Quote: terapinedQuote: gamerfreakTrump even had commemorative coins ready to go
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4673331
Doesn't a Supreme Leader out rank a President
This coin proves Trump really really wanted this meeting
ROTFL
Where can I buy one of these coins?
I might pay up to 100.00, the money I will win due to the no meet
Cant believe some conservatives thought this was gonna happen
As soon as it was announced, I said no way. Trump is too much of a wimp.
But that $100 you win will be offset by the $100 you are gonna lose to me on the mid term House bet.
So no coin for you. Lol.
Quote: wellwellwellQuote: terapinedQuote: gamerfreakTrump even had commemorative coins ready to go
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4673331
Doesn't a Supreme Leader out rank a President
This coin proves Trump really really wanted this meeting
ROTFL
Where can I buy one of these coins?
I might pay up to 100.00, the money I will win due to the no meet
Cant believe some conservatives thought this was gonna happen
As soon as it was announced, I said no way. Trump is too much of a wimp.
But that $100 you win will be offset by the $100 you are gonna lose to me on the mid term House bet.
So no coin for you. Lol.
No doubt there is a posibility I could lose both bets
But
I believe I made 2 good bets
I believe the Wizard of Vegas preaches its not whether you win or lose, its if you made a good bet.
I'm really not much of a gambler but when presented with an opportunity where I believe the odds are in my favor, hard to turn it down
Plus its fun
