How can Secretary Clinton be such a heavy favorite?
May 13th, 2018 at 2:56:20 PM
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Quote: jmillsThat last one is from The Onion: https://www.theonion.com/michelle-obama-shutters-lets-move-program-after-failed-1819574964
I didn't check the others, but I'm guessing they're editorials from conservatives.
So when the Onion begins to be the cited source of news for republicans we know where we stand
SMH
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
May 13th, 2018 at 2:59:18 PM
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Quote: NathanThat's what I was talking about. Her love of children. She at least TRIED.
Not really. She was just the figurehead
of a First Lady's cause celeb, as most
of them are. She did as much as her
staff deemed necessary to keep up
appearances, but they did all the real
work in making it the failure it was.
Betty Ford was the last FL who really contributed
something lasting, IMO. She was a leader
in women's rights, breast cancer awareness,
and founded the Betty Ford Center after
she left the WH. Her activism continues
to influence and help people long after
she's gone.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 13th, 2018 at 3:02:54 PM
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Quote: jmillsI didn't check the others, but I'm guessing they're editorials from conservatives.
You
think her cure the obese thingie was
a big success? Lets see your sources.
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"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 13th, 2018 at 3:04:46 PM
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Quote: darkozLol
Like every post in this thread by trump supporters
I dont know whats worse. Whining losers or whining winners
"Hillary Hillary Hillary" even though Trump won
Doesnt show much faith in his ability to win another election imho
So in other words, you have nothing to support TomG’s claim.
May 13th, 2018 at 3:47:19 PM
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Quote: EvenBobYou
think her cure the obese thingie was
a big success? Lets see your sources.
I don't have an opinion on it. I was just suggesting checking your sources before posting. You're not the first to be fooled by the Onion. A lot of my parents church friends were sending this one around back in the day:
https://entertainment.theonion.com/harry-potter-books-spark-rise-in-satanism-among-childre-1819565664
I agree with you about Betty Ford, though.
May 13th, 2018 at 5:57:56 PM
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Quote: RSSo in other words, you have nothing to support TomG’s claim.
What are you whining about?
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
May 13th, 2018 at 6:42:22 PM
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Quote: darkoz
Doesnt show much faith in his ability to win another election imho
I expect him to lose by a landslide in 2020 if he runs. He barely beat the worst candidate in history. His positives are mostly 'he is not Hillary'. I don't see him picking up support, and likely has lost some. If the Dems put up a reasonable candidate, he or she will win.
May 13th, 2018 at 7:04:01 PM
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Quote: RSCan we get some examples?Quote: TomGVery good point. And every time Trump and his supporters play up their victim mentality (which is more than anyone else in politics) it shows which side they are really on
If you look at Trump's twitter, you will see many examples. Any talk of "Fake News," or "Which Hunt," are perfect examples of Trump acting like a victim. There are also plenty of times The President should be doing something to address and correct a problem, but instead blames everyone else instead of taking responsibility
Trump: "We are going to demand Congress secure the border in the upcoming CR."
America's response: Why have you not done that yet? Stop blaming your failure to secure the border on Congress
Trump: "Democrats and liberals in Congress want to disarm law-abiding Americans at the same time they are releasing dangerous criminal aliens and savage gang members onto our streets."
America's response: You're the President. If anyone is being disarmed, stop it from happening instead of acting like a victim by blaming others
There is no wall, the swamp is deeper than ever, and we still have Obamacare. Yet instead of taking responsibility and doing something about it, Trump just goes on twitter and blames everyone else like he's victim. It started before he even took office: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/805804034309427200?lang=en
and the victim mentality and lack of responsibility has continued every month since. With just a very little bit of searching:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/992395376039727104
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/989650212380692480
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/987774054651301888
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/987529636656697345
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/987278269765517312
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/987065049566138375
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/986576502358671361
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/986544648477868032
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/986378606606737408
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/986303188587425794
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/986218870506754048
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/985858100149309441
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/985502053345751040
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/985489930343321600
And that's only going back the past 30 days
My favorite was just this week: "91% of the Network News about me is negative (Fake)." He has finally admitted that whenever he says Fake News, he means it's real news that he doesn't like. He acts like such a victim, he can't even understand that it is possible for something to be negative and also real
May 13th, 2018 at 7:52:53 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOI expect him to lose by a landslide in 2020 if he runs. He barely beat the worst candidate in history. His positives are mostly 'he is not Hillary'. I don't see him picking up support, and likely has lost some. If the Dems put up a reasonable candidate, he or she will win.
Totally agree
Dems must have a good candidate
I think Mondale though was probably the worst historically. Now that was a landslide - 49 states to 1 loss
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
May 13th, 2018 at 8:37:05 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOI expect him to lose by a landslide in 2020 if he runs.
If only the economy were better, Isis
wasn't still kicking our ass, unemploment
wasn't so high, N Korea wasn't threatening
us every other day, the border issue wasn't
still out of control, maybe he would have
a chance. If only Trump knew how to speak
in public and fill stadiums..
If only.. {guffaw}
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 13th, 2018 at 8:40:12 PM
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Quote: darkozTotally agree
Dems must have a good candidate
You've got one. Hillary. 18 months
ago you all said she was the best
candidate on earth for the job.
She's still here, she hasn't changed,
she's still running. She won the
popular vote, ferchrisake..
Wise up..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 2:34:25 AM
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The Left cant win elections if they cannot get their key demographics to vote. 18-32 year olds, they still only represent less than 20% of the total vote and less than half of them showed up to vote. Dems lost 5% of that vote in 2016 compared to 2012. That 5% went to the independents.
Bernie Sanders got 800K + Write in votes. Though he would have been the Candidate if his followers wernt so lazy.
How Millennials Voted in The 2016 Election
Bernie Sanders got 800K + Write in votes. Though he would have been the Candidate if his followers wernt so lazy.
How Millennials Voted in The 2016 Election
May 14th, 2018 at 2:39:24 AM
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Quote: GlenG
Bernie Sanders got 800K + Write in votes. Though he would have been the Candidate if his followers wernt so lazy.
Don't you mean if the primary wasn't rigged?
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
May 14th, 2018 at 2:50:35 AM
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Quote: EvenBobYou've got one. Hillary. 18 months
ago you all said she was the best
candidate on earth for the job.
She's still here, she hasn't changed,
she's still running. She won the
popular vote, ferchrisake..
Wise up..
No, they said she was "the most qualified OF ALL TIME!"
At the moment the Dems think it will be a cakewalk, that Trump is some paper tiger. But he has not lost support despite what some have claimed. Obama lost support and still was re-elected. Obama had a mostly favorable press, Trump has had the press fighting him every step of the way and they guy still has an approval number similar to Obama at this point!
The Democrats are at the moment trying to find the right candidate that checks as many minority boxes as possible. No matter what, they want to keep on their plan of "demographics is destiny." They think that every minority vote is going to block-vote like Blacks do and that that is how they win, forever. While in 2016 they merely wrote off whites, in 2020 expect them to be somewhat hostile in their approach. Expect their candidate to run on general amnesty for illegal aliens, and talk about "diversity" every time they speak.
Trump will counter with kitchen table issues that working men and women care about vs. the Democrat talking about issues university society likes to talk about. If the economy is doing well he easily wins.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
May 14th, 2018 at 3:50:56 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanDon't you mean if the primary wasn't rigged?
I don't think you can rig voter turn outs and people's lack of knowledge on how primaries work
May 14th, 2018 at 4:39:07 AM
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Quote: GlenGI don't think you can rig voter turn outs and people's lack of knowledge on how primaries work
But you can rig when you televise debates so the fewest people are watching, limiting exposure for lesser knowns. You can rig superdelegates. You can rig stronger candidates not entering the field in the first place.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
May 14th, 2018 at 5:30:58 AM
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Quote: gordonm888Maybe Caitlyn (nee Bruce) Jenner should run for President. It would really be special if our first female president was a man.
Wasn’t she Mr Garrisons running mate in 2016?
https://www.google.com/search?q=mr+garrison+runs+for+president&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari
May 14th, 2018 at 5:59:45 AM
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Quote: EvenBobIf only the economy were better, Isis
wasn't still kicking our ass, unemploment
wasn't so high, N Korea wasn't threatening
us every other day, the border issue wasn't
still out of control, maybe he would have
a chance. If only Trump knew how to speak
in public and fill stadiums..
If only.. {guffaw}
Golly Bob, don't you know this is all just leftover from the Obama administration (wink...)
I stand by my prediction though. I think his style has turned off enough swing state voters that he will lose states that he won by a few points. And I doubt he wins a single state he didn't win in 2016. And you know I'd bet on it if you want!
May 14th, 2018 at 8:10:35 AM
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Quote: EvenBobIf only the economy were better,
The economy has been on the upswing for almost a decade now. Where have you been?
As for the stock market:
S&P gains under Trump (first 16 months): 20.2%
S&P gains under Obama (first 16 months, 1st term): 31.9%
S&P gains under Obama (first 16 months, 2nd term): 51.5%
Dow gains under Trump (first 16 months): 25.5%
Dow gains under Obama (first 16 months, 1st term): 26.7%
Dow gains under Obama (first 16 months, 2nd term): 35.7%
source
Quote:Isis wasn't still kicking our ass,
???
ISIS was never kicking the U.S. military's ass.
Quote:unemploment
wasn't so high,
Unemployment numbers have been dropping every year since 2009.
Quote:N Korea wasn't threatening
us every other day,
Is this the same North Korea that Obama wanted to negotiate with and conservatives destroyed him for it?
Quote:the border issue wasn't
still out of control,
It was never out of control.
Quote:If only Trump knew how to speak
in public .
Here I agree with you... IF ONLY Trump knew how to speak, he wouldn't be a global laughingstock.
I bet you $10 Hillary doesn't run for President in 2020.
May 14th, 2018 at 10:17:53 AM
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Quote: darkoz
Dems must have a good candidate
I think Mondale though was probably the worst historically. Now that was a landslide - 49 states to 1 loss
Mondale was bad, but Michael Dukakis was even worse in my opinion. Dukakis had some very admirable qualities and might have made an excellent president but he made some of the biggest mistakes in the history of Presidential campaigns. Even his campaign managers later said that Dukakis was simply not good at the art of politics.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
May 14th, 2018 at 10:25:51 AM
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Quote: TigerWu
I bet you $10 Hillary doesn't run for President in 2020.
I honestly wish that neither Trump nor Hillary would run in 2020 - I despise them both.
If Trump runs again he will almost certainly lose to any decent Democratic candidate. I am hoping he will decide that he hasn't enjoyed being the President and that win or lose, running for a 2nd term will only tarnish his reputation. I would love to see Marco Rubio run.
If Hillary runs again, I believe she will not get her party's nomination. The Dems will turn the page.
So many better men, a few of them friends, are dead. And a thousand thousand slimy things live on, and so do I.
May 14th, 2018 at 10:50:59 AM
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Quote: gordonm888If Trump runs again he will almost certainly lose to any decent Democratic candidate.
So it's 2016 all over again. Trump
has to lose because you don't like
him. You're going with that again
because it worked so well the first
time.
Good luck with that..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 11:15:05 AM
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Quote: EvenBobSo it's 2016 all over again. Trump
has to lose because you don't like
him. You're going with that again
because it worked so well the first
time.
Good luck with that..
You are so right
Every AP knows one win is indicative of a winning guaranteed system
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
May 14th, 2018 at 11:19:11 AM
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"Not saying she will win, but it's going to take a strong candidate willing to lie about what he believes in to beat her."
Quoted from a Trump supporter earlier ITT. Made me chuckle.
Quoted from a Trump supporter earlier ITT. Made me chuckle.
May 14th, 2018 at 11:33:55 AM
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Quote: EvenBobTrump
has to lose because you don't like
him.
Trump doesn't HAVE to lose, but being the most unpopular President in almost a century certainly isn't helping his case.
Are you going to accept my bet or not?
May 14th, 2018 at 1:39:00 PM
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Quote: TigerWuTrump doesn't HAVE to lose, but being the most unpopular President in almost a century certainly isn't helping his case.
I thought the polls have him where Obama
was at this time, or even higher.
"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 47% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance."
From last month:
"President Donald Trump’s approval rating hit 50 percent in Rasmussen’s daily presidential tracking poll Monday, which puts him ahead of his predecessor at the same point in the presidency."
You really need to pay more attention..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 1:49:33 PM
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JFC
A rightie who always derides polls citing Rasmussen.
What a joke.
A rightie who always derides polls citing Rasmussen.
What a joke.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
May 14th, 2018 at 2:03:06 PM
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Quote: ams288JFC
A rightie who always derides polls citing Rasmussen.
It's the only accurate daily poll, it compares
apples to apples. I know you hate polls that
don't trash Trump, oh well. You loved
Rasmussen when it favored Hillary. And like
it or don't, Americans of all stripes pay
attention to Rasmussen.. I'm not a poll
person, but when somebody says Trump
is the most unpopular in 100 years, that's
just silly. He's right where Obama was.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 2:49:18 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI thought the polls have him where Obama
was at this time, or even higher.
Think again.
And yes, Rasmussen is included in the results.
So you really need to pay more attention, EB. But I'm glad I could take this opportunity to educate you.
And I'll take that as a "no," you're not going to accept my bet. Guess you're not so sure about Hillary running in 2020, after all.
May 14th, 2018 at 3:39:36 PM
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Quote: TigerWu
5/38, yeah he's real reliable. He's
the guy who said Hillary had like
a 72% chance of winning on election
night. His polls are soooo reliable.
(snort)
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 3:56:13 PM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
5/38, yeah he's real reliable. He's
the guy who said Hillary had like
a 72% chance of winning on election
night. His polls are soooo reliable.
(snort)
Sooooo.... you're telling me she had a 28% chance of losing? And she lost? In what universe is that a mathematically unreliable prediction? If I told you you had a 28% chance of losing a game, and you lost, would you be surprised?
That link is an AGGREGATE of polls. It's not one poll. It's not Nate Silver's "opinion." It is an average of multiple polls from multiple sources OUTSIDE of 538. How do you not understand how this works?
How can you claim to be a gambler and not understand the basic mathematical concepts behind this?
This should be clear evidence to anyone on this forum that you are a troll.
May 14th, 2018 at 3:59:20 PM
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Quote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
5/38, yeah he's real reliable. He's
the guy who said Hillary had like
a 72% chance of winning on election
night. His polls are soooo reliable.
(snort)
Sooooo.... you're telling me she had a 28% chance of losing? And she lost? In what universe is that a mathematically unreliable prediction? If I told you you had a 28% chance of losing a game, and you lost, would you be surprised?
That link is an AGGREGATE of polls. It's not one poll. It's not Nate Silver's "opinion." It is an average of multiple polls from multiple sources OUTSIDE of 538. How do you not understand how this works?
How can you claim to be a gambler and not understand the basic mathematical concepts behind this?
This should be clear evidence to anyone on this forum that you are a troll.
When will the ban hammer strike thou down?
May 14th, 2018 at 4:04:07 PM
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Quote: RSWhen will the ban hammer strike thou down?
Ban?????? Pretty harsh.
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
May 14th, 2018 at 4:04:39 PM
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Quote: RS
When will the ban hammer strike thou down?
It will probably strike down on me if EB ticks me off enough.... haha...
I would like to know what EB thinks the mathematical probability of Hillary Clinton winning the 2016 election was, if he thinks 72% is completely outside the realm of reality.
May 14th, 2018 at 4:08:54 PM
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Quote: RSQuote: TigerWuQuote: EvenBobQuote: TigerWu
5/38, yeah he's real reliable. He's
the guy who said Hillary had like
a 72% chance of winning on election
night. His polls are soooo reliable.
(snort)
Sooooo.... you're telling me she had a 28% chance of losing? And she lost? In what universe is that a mathematically unreliable prediction? If I told you you had a 28% chance of losing a game, and you lost, would you be surprised?
That link is an AGGREGATE of polls. It's not one poll. It's not Nate Silver's "opinion." It is an average of multiple polls from multiple sources OUTSIDE of 538. How do you not understand how this works?
How can you claim to be a gambler and not understand the basic mathematical concepts behind this?
This should be clear evidence to anyone on this forum that you are a troll.
When will the ban hammer strike thou down?
Yes, TigerWu. This argument has been had time and again, whether calling someone something that you can objectively define them as is protected. As far as I can remember, in all the iterations of this argument I've seen, it's always been decreed that insults, even if true, are not protected.
I'm sure you can fix your end. I'll make sure EB isn't beside himself with anguish. And hopefully we can just carry on...
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
May 14th, 2018 at 4:15:41 PM
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Quote: terapinedBan?????? Pretty harsh.
Ban....suspension....same thing.
@Face: What’s the point of rules if they aren’t enforced, or if the person is given time to “fix” his skullduggerous insult? Can I call someone an idiot, and even when caught, I’d have some X time to fix it so I don’t get suspended?
May 14th, 2018 at 4:24:08 PM
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Quote: TigerWu
That link is an AGGREGATE of polls.
And the AGGREGATE of polls on election
day said Trump would lose YUGELY. What's
your point again, I'm forgetting..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 4:27:05 PM
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Quote: FaceI'll make sure EB isn't beside himself with anguish.
If I was, how could I tell. I had chili
for lunch and have a lot of gas. It
may be masking the anguish..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 4:54:18 PM
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Quote: RS
@Face: What’s the point of rules if they aren’t enforced, or if the person is given time to “fix” his skullduggerous insult? Can I call someone an idiot, and even when caught, I’d have some X time to fix it so I don’t get suspended?
The rules are being enforced. I personally do not care that Wu called EB a troll. I've only entered precisely because of the rules.
I see it like this - my purpose is the forum. In every opportunity, I should try to find a way to improve it. When it comes to conduct, a breach of the rules, being punitive is but one of many avenues, and rarely the most optimal, at least IMO. The best option is one that corrects the behavior with minimal disruption to and maximum improvement of the forum, again, IMO.
Add to it this...
Quote: RulesThese rules should be considered as a guideline of what we will not tolerate. Just because a behavior is not on this list does not mean it will be tolerated or go unpunished. The administration reserves the right to punish any activity it deems disruptive to the forum, whether against these rules or not.
(List of Rules)
The punishment for violating these rules will be meted out on a case by case basis. Options include a warning, temporary ban, and permanent ban.
"...case by case..." and "Options include warning..." I can only say I didn't even see a 2min for Roughing here. And given what I know and / or have seen of the two parties, I'm reasonably confident that a simple separation and acknowledgement will be enough to fix the problem, and play can continue without (or with less) of my/mod interruption.
That's what I try, anyway. Sometimes it works.
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
May 14th, 2018 at 5:10:15 PM
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Quote: FaceThe rules are being enforced. I personally do not care that Wu called EB a troll.
.
I've been here 8 years and have over
20K posts. As far as I can remember
I've been suspended here once. I made
a funny statement about a pic of
Nareed wearing women's clothes and
it was read as an insult. I didn't mean
it that way at all.
People here have always accused me of
being 'protected' by the mods. That's
laughable at best. I don't get suspended
because I stay within the rules guidelines,
as offensive as that seems to be to many
people. I find a way to communicate and
not cross the line into personal insults.
I'm sorry if that pisses some of you off.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 6:17:08 PM
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Quote: FaceAs far as I can remember, in all the iterations of this argument I've seen, it's always been decreed that insults, even if true, are not protected.
I know I just said something like this on the other thread, but the problem with this policy, is that people can literally write anything, and there are no consequences. This makes a forum a breeding ground for trolls. I'm not sure what can be done. You don't want people just insulting people all the time, but you also don't want someone to be able to say things like "this person said there was a 51% chance of this team winning and they lost, so what do they know."
Oh well, I'll probably be out of here on another 2 year vacation from the forum after my trip in June anyway.
May 14th, 2018 at 6:22:32 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI've been here 8 years and have over
20K posts. As far as I can remember
I've been suspended here once.
Your memory isn't what it used to be.
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
May 14th, 2018 at 9:26:22 PM
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Quote: FinsRulepeople can literally write anything, and there are no consequences. T
Like on the fake news networks CNN
and MSNBC. They can make up what
they like and treat it as truth, and
the Left eats it up with no consequences
to the networks. Is that what you mean?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 14th, 2018 at 10:45:50 PM
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Quote: RSCan we get some examples?Quote: TomGVery good point. And every time Trump and his supporters play up their victim mentality (which is more than anyone else in politics) it shows which side they are really on
I know I gave like 20 examples yesterday, but I think Trump heard we were talking about this and wanted to give us the ultimate example of liberal-victim mentality:
"The so-called leaks coming out of the White House are a massive over exaggeration put out by the Fake News Media in order to make us look as bad as possible. With that being said, leakers are traitors and cowards, and we will find out who they are!"
-----
The responses to him have been the best. "It's time to punish the leakers with the greatest punishments allowed under the law!" (https://twitter.com/JacobAWohl/status/996131406748073986 -- even a self-described Trump supporter thinks Trump is lying when he calls something Fake News)
The other type of response does make me laugh: "We must, at all costs, hunt down these leaking traitors who totally don't exist and it's not a big deal really."
May 15th, 2018 at 1:26:56 AM
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Fake news.Quote: EvenBobI've been here 8 years and have over
20K posts. As far as I can remember
I've been suspended here once.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 15th, 2018 at 5:01:36 AM
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Hillary to Australians: People 'Uneasy With Women in Leadership' -- 'Dismiss Them Based on Looks'
She's still out there making noise.
She's still out there making noise.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
May 15th, 2018 at 5:37:46 AM
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Quote: AZDuffmanHillary to Australians: People 'Uneasy With Women in Leadership' -- 'Dismiss Them Based on Looks'
She's still out there making noise.
How dare she!
I hear a rumor that the GOP loser from 2012 is running for Senate. Inconceivable!
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
May 15th, 2018 at 6:35:15 AM
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Quote: EvenBobLike on the fake news networks CNN
and MSNBC. They can make up what
they like and treat it as truth, and
the Left eats it up with no consequences
to the networks. Is that what you mean?
Switching topics is a good way to get out of a corner.
May 15th, 2018 at 6:39:10 AM
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Quote: EvenBobLike on the fake news networks CNN
and MSNBC. They can make up what
they like and treat it as truth, and
the Left eats it up with no consequences
to the networks. Is that what you mean?
I never ever watch Fox
Amazing how much EB cares about CNN and MSNBC
ROTFL
Why do conservatives go crazy over CNN and MSNBC?
Hannity could declare Trump greatest Pres ever and I would yawn
CNN and MSNBC say Trump sucks and conservatives go nuts
weird
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
May 15th, 2018 at 7:19:06 AM
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Quote: terapinedI never ever watch Fox
Amazing how much EB cares about CNN and MSNBC
ROTFL
Why do conservatives go crazy over CNN and MSNBC?
Hannity could declare Trump greatest Pres ever and I would yawn
CNN and MSNBC say Trump sucks and conservatives go nuts
weird
To paraphrase a famous movie line "They cant handle the truth"
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
