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rxwine
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October 7th, 2012 at 1:54:31 PM permalink
Why are you mooching off Obamacare as part of the 47% moochers. Just pay the guy out of your voluminous gambling winnings. He shouldn't need to go to the government for the payment.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
EvenBob
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October 7th, 2012 at 1:56:36 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I can guarantee you the government doesn't require you to state your religion in order for doctors to receive payment. I'm sure there is a "prefer not to state" option.



The religion question I don't know about. But
on the race and ethnicity, she was specifically
told those questions had to be answered, there
wasn't a leave it blank option. All doctors aren't
doing this yet, most are waiting till after the
election. None of this goes into effect till next
year. There was White, African American, Asian,
Native American, and Other. And then the ethnicity
question. None of this is allowed where my wife
works, they can't ask these questions and indeed,
cannot even mention race in any way while at work.

They had a problem a few months ago when a black
guy stole a delivery truck. When the police arrived,
they asked my wife for a description and she said
a tall guy with black hair and brown eyes. When
they asked his race, my wife said she couldn't say.
Later she asked HR if she did the right thing, and
they said she did it perfectly. I'm not joking.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
FinsRule
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October 7th, 2012 at 2:06:05 PM permalink
The race question should have an answer that says "two or more races". If you ever felt like you didn't want to answer, you could always put that down.

The other health questions seem like things a doctor should know.
AZDuffman
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October 7th, 2012 at 2:08:10 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

The race question should have an answer that says "two or more races". If you ever felt like you didn't want to answer, you could always put that down.



If you were born here the correct answer should be "Native American," shouldn't it?
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thecesspit
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October 7th, 2012 at 2:15:20 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

The race question should have an answer that says "two or more races". If you ever felt like you didn't want to answer, you could always put that down.

The other health questions seem like things a doctor should know.



Is it 'race' or 'ethinicity'? One is quite different from the other... medially race might be useful (though for the areas where it'd be useful, genetic screening is becoming cheap enough to deal with it) while the 'ethinicity' tells you nothing about the biology of a person.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
EvenBob
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October 7th, 2012 at 2:24:03 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule



The other health questions seem like things a doctor should know.



But that form is going to the GOV'T, not your
doctor. He already has that info. Now the gov't
wants the health info that up to now was just
between you and your doctor. Starting to 'get it'?
How else can they decide who to discriminate
against? 320 pounds with high BP? We ain't paying
your bills, fatty.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
EvenBob
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October 7th, 2012 at 2:27:56 PM permalink
Quote: thecesspit

Is it 'race' or 'ethinicity'? One is quite different from the other... medially race might be useful (though for the areas where it'd be useful, genetic screening is becoming cheap enough to deal with it) while the 'ethinicity' tells you nothing about the biology of a person.



Its all about pigeon holing you. Obamacare is about
the gov't controlling us, getting info, keeping tabs on
us. What better way to do that than under the guise
of healthcare. And of course all gov't agencies share
info, so they all will have access to it.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
FinsRule
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October 7th, 2012 at 2:32:00 PM permalink
I assume the government can know everything about me at anytime if they want. Isn't that what the Patriot act says?
tsmith
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October 7th, 2012 at 2:45:10 PM permalink
If the form is going to the gov't and not staying with the doctor, and if your answers don't affect the treatment of your medical condition, and you feel the questions are intrusive, why not just lie about the answers? Can anyone prove that you're not of Swedish and Chinese ancestry? Just because you "look" white, that doesn't mean you "are" white, and nothing visually obvious can prove that a Methodist isn't really a Lutheran.

I personally don't see the point to the martial status question that's on every single new patient form. Why should my dentist care if I'm married, single, divorced or widowed? Do divorced people have more, less, or different teeth than single people? If you are not married now does it matter that you might have been married before at one time, and if the marriage was dissolved does it matter in which way?
AZDuffman
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October 7th, 2012 at 3:13:37 PM permalink
Quote: tsmith



I personally don't see the point to the martial status question that's on every single new patient form. Why should my dentist care if I'm married, single, divorced or widowed? Do divorced people have more, less, or different teeth than single people? If you are not married now does it matter that you might have been married before at one time, and if the marriage was dissolved does it matter in which way?



Marital status could possibly be relevant in case of an emergency where a life decision had to be made. This is a SWAG, but the only reason I can think of, but is a logical reason.
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