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October 7th, 2012 at 7:03:34 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And when he goes to file an Obamacare
invoice to get paid for treating her, because no form was
filled out, he will get pennies on the dollar, so little that
he's almost treating her for nothing.



On Medicare and on the private insurance programs that I am familiar with, the fact that those programs won't pay the full amount charged by the service provider does not mean that the provider has to accept what the programs will pay. If the provider doesn't agree to accept the reduced amount, they just say so and collect from the patient. Most every time I see a physician (I don't use a chiropractor), I sign an agreement to pay whatever my insurance doesn't pay. Under the new program, is the provider required to accept the lower amount that might be offered for their services, or is it still the provider's choice?
rxwine
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October 7th, 2012 at 7:07:17 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Why should EB or anyone have to lie on a health form to protect their privacy. EB did the research, but it is as I thought--affirmitive action for medical care.


"I need an MRI"
"Sorry, sir, we have taken our quota of <insert ethnic group, sex, sexual orientation, or whatever else the government wants> this week. Try again next month."

THANKS, OBAMA!



Well, you guys who worry so much about other people who might be getting health care at tax payer expense, it's hard for me to care much about your miniscule complaints.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
rdw4potus
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October 7th, 2012 at 7:08:47 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

My wife is irate. She went to her chiropractor last week
for her usual appointment and he gave her a form to fill
out first. It was asking all kinds of intrusive questions,
like her age, weight, blood pressure, drugs she takes,
education level, marriage status, all kinds of stuff. But
what really got her going were the race and religion
questions.

What race was she, what was her religious affiliation.
What was her ethnicity. In other words, if she put down
white for race, where were her 'people' from. Poland?
Russia? England? If Asian, are you Chinese, Vietmese,
etc. My wife works for an incurance company and they
can't ask any of these type of questions.

She gave the form back and said she wouldn't do it. Thats
when the nurse said it was an Obamacare form and she
has to fill it out, if she doesn't they can refuse to treat her.
So she did it, gritting her teeth. The doctor told her he can
get in big trouble if everybody doesn't fill out these forms.
He said its their way of tracking everybody, of getting every
person in the country into the 'system' and pigeonholing
them. He hates it, but what can he do.

Welcome to Socialism, and this is just the start.



Really? Your wife's chiro made her fill out a government form even though she's privately insured? That's not right......
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
EvenBob
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October 7th, 2012 at 7:09:31 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

I think EB is right and this is a bit scary!

Data_Gathering



This is just like so many gov't info gathering programs.
They say its for one thing, but its really for a whole
umbrella of things. Its a foot in the door, its one step
closer to them controlling everything we do. But a lot
of people don't mind that, they love being told what to
do, they have no idea how to do it on their own.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
rxwine
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October 7th, 2012 at 7:23:02 PM permalink
A lot of Repubicans want to interfere in our healthcare whether it's stem cell research, or making women jump through hoops to get abortions.

You're probably fine with that when you agree with what's trying to be done.

Here's a little violin playing for your misery.
Quasimodo? Does that name ring a bell?
EvenBob
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October 7th, 2012 at 7:30:07 PM permalink
Here's more. At the end it says

"CMS only specifies that the provider MUST
collect the information — we’re not asking
the provider to share that information with
CMS.”

So he must collect it if he wants to get paid.
They're not asking the provider to share the
info, not yet. The program doesn't go into
effect till next year. The provider can refuse
to collect any info, and they will refuse to
pay him.

http://www.eye.md/library/AreaPatientsRecoilFromRaceQuestion.pdf?s=12698962
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AZDuffman
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October 7th, 2012 at 7:45:20 PM permalink
Quote: rxwine

A lot of Repubicans want to interfere in our healthcare whether it's stem cell research, or making women jump through hoops to get abortions.

You're probably fine with that when you agree with what's trying to be done.

Here's a little violin playing for your misery.



Well, Democrats like regulation on everything from making parents jump through hoops to pack their childrens lunch instead of buying to allowing a law-abiding citizen to purchase a gun.

Here is a little violin playing for your misery.

When you cannot get to see a doctor because your skin color is not right or you do not date someone of the right sex, be sure to behappy because at least the rascally Republicans could not defeat Obamacare.

And before you say that cannot happen, remember our government already thinks skin color should play a part in college admissions and who they procure goods and services from. To allocate health care on such a basis is no stretch.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
rdw4potus
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October 7th, 2012 at 7:59:20 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

And when he goes to file an Obamacare
invoice to get paid for treating her, because no form was
filled out, he will get pennies on the dollar, so little that
he's almost treating her for nothing.



Why would your wife's private insurance company pay pennies on the dollar? Even if the government were eventually to be involved in the payments between your wife's chiro and her private insurer (it isn't), wouldn't that probably only happen after Obamacare actually takes effect in 2 years?
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October 7th, 2012 at 8:00:26 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Welcome to Socialism, and this is just the start.

I love socialism! It's the best. Bring it on!!
Someday, joor goin' to see the name of Googie Gomez in lights and joor goin' to say to joorself, "Was that her?" and then joor goin' to answer to joorself, "That was her!" But you know somethin' mister? I was always her yuss nobody knows it! - Googie Gomez
rdw4potus
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October 7th, 2012 at 8:01:02 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman


remember our government already thinks skin color should play a part...To allocate health care on such a basis is no stretch.



Indeed...it happened for a couple hundred years. And that surely wasn't the liberals fault...
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett

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