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September 21st, 2014 at 10:46:55 AM permalink
A hat, a hat,what would I tell a person to do in that hat? But I have been warned by the new owner . SIGH
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:04:38 AM permalink
Methinks the Buzzard doth protest too much.

Buzzard, you were clearly trolling and were warned by the new sheriff to either behave or leave town by sundown.

You could just as easily have been suspended.

Be thankful for little mercies.

I'm betting that you won't get another Papal dispensation.
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:11:04 AM permalink
Quote: MrV

Methinks the Buzzard doth protest too much.

Buzzard, you were clearly trolling and were warned by the new sheriff to either behave or leave town by sundown.

You could just as easily have been suspended.

Be thankful for little mercies.

I'm betting that you won't get another Papal dispensation.




Well Mister V Congratulations on your new position as the moral counselor for sinners like me.
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:24:23 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Somebody needs to tell Axiom that he ain't as big a celebrity as he thinks...lol



I wish it was on youtube to post a link. In "Breaking Bad," Walter wants Mike to make sure all the bugs have been removed and Mike replies that he will because the bugs cost $800 and says, "Walter, you are not that interesting."

So, to all with these worries,

"Walter, you are not that interesting."
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:29:28 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

As someone who knows a bit about web development, I have to say that this is probably not 100% true. Whoever administrates/develops the site on the back end absolutely could gain access to private messages if they so desired. In this way you are always trusting the site admins of forums when you send private messages. The functionality may not be built in to the web interface so that admins can read PMs (that would be absurd, if you want to even try to pretend they are private), but the systems administrator/webmaster has the database password and access and could, if they so choose, log directly in to the database and read said messages. AxiomOfChoice made this point pretty vehemently just before he left.



Is it 1992?

No matter the level of integrity of the owners, it's the internet. Target, Sony, now Apple... how many examples do you need that your information is only as safe as the level of desire of those who want to take it?

I personally have no interest in any private communication. I have been approached several times before concerning members desiring to reveal PMs to me, and my response is always the same - If it concerns a rule violation, then feel free to tell me. If it's just "interesting", then I'm not interested. I assume Mission and BBB are the same. Wiz has told everyone the same, and I've no reason whatsoever to question his words. Yet after all that, I still never once felt like I have untouchable privacy. It's the internet. And as stupid as I am with computers, even I know that.

I think BBB and OG are the only people to whom I've revealed my first name. Yet I'm quite sure that boymimbo knows both my first and last, just because of stuff I've posted. Is that his fault? Wiz's fault? JB's lack of programming protection? Of course not. boymimbo knows because of information I voluntarily provided, and he put the pieces together. And if I didn't want that info known, well, who's fault is that?
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:33:12 AM permalink
Did you forget you told me as well, Percy ? I think you should be proud of your heritage.

The name "Percy" derives from the village of Percy-en-Auge in Normandy from which was derived the English surname, first taken by the Norman lords of Northumbria. From there it came into use as a given name.

Few people can say they are truly Northumbrians.
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:36:30 AM permalink
Quote: AcesAndEights

site is served over HTTP, said PMs would then be traveling in plain text over the tubes.

I say this not to start conspiracy theories or cast aspersions on our new Overlords' motives, but just as a reality check.



Reality check: If you write or say it, someone else can read or hear it. If they couldn't, there would be no point in saying it in the first place.

An unintended consequence is that someone might "overhear" a "private" conversation.

All this is true if it's online or in person or by phone or by mail or by some other means.


The fact that the admins have said that they won't go digging into "private messages" is about as good as you can expect... better than a number of the free email services that automatically read your messages and present advertisements to you based on their content.
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:36:52 AM permalink
Quote: Face


Is it 1992?

No matter the level of integrity of the owners, it's the internet. Target, Sony, now Apple... how many examples do you need that your information is only as safe as the level of desire of those who want to take it?



Quote:

"Even if you're not doing anything wrong, you are being watched and recorded."
-Edward Snowden



Hey, you could almost guess Snowden made that quote about being in casinos.
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September 21st, 2014 at 11:44:38 AM permalink
1980's, working for AT&T monitoring circuits into University of Maryland. Would wait till kids were talking about pot they just got in the mail or bought. Then throw key open , they would hear audible click, then, " Stop The tape, we got enough " Just before I would drop the call.

My daughter had the ID for her wireless internet as FBI Surveillance Van. Sure that must scared a meth head from time to time. Damn ideas kids come up with.
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September 21st, 2014 at 12:06:21 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Well Mister V Congratulations on your new position as the moral counselor for sinners like me.



Just as I feel about this NFL nonsense, I don't give a hoot about your morals, Buzzard, I only like to watch a good game being played.

You have some good forum skills, no question, but you need to take it to the next level so that you, too, can 'walk with the giants.'


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September 21st, 2014 at 12:12:17 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Babs darling " You're posting publicly in a round-table discussion, which implicitly invites comment. "

Yet I have just been accused of trolling because my postings were found to be inviting comment.

And summarily warned by the new owner that I am skating on thin ice. Much like the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Does the phrase " Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely " ring a bell ? ? ?



One of my very favorite quotes! It should read "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Not playing monitor, Buzz. That's not my style. It's just such a good quote and one that will never go out of style.

Everyone from Ronald Reagan to Thomas Jefferson has been credited for it but it was from a relatively unknown person.
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September 21st, 2014 at 1:23:47 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Babs darling " You're posting publicly in a round-table discussion, which implicitly invites comment. "

Yet I have just been accused of trolling because my postings were found to be inviting comment.

And summarily warned by the new owner that I am skating on thin ice. Much like the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Does the phrase " Power Corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely " ring a bell ? ? ?



Buzz, darling, if you look back to your first mention of the series that aroused Zuga's ire, you might note that I called you on it, gently, as irresponsible, as I am aware of your skills in satire and cliff-dancing. Which, by the way, is a learned skill (reading between the lines with you). You went gaily on, you got brushed back. Part of the game as you play it.

It wasn't that you were inviting comment; it was that you were invoking the name and reputation of a woman from another forum, there in a professional capacity, who works for Zuga, and conflating her randomly to a woman who was, at best, notorious here, linking them by superficial appearance and sheer coincidence in time. Zuga's been a member since May; do you think he hasn't read back the entire saga of JJ?

While I took you to be highly satirical in doing so, as it's obvious you were mocking the air of affront and conspiracy in the immediate reaction to the sale, it's not at all surprising that Zuga, and perhaps others who don't "get" you (and I don't always), were offended. Comedy is risky; I think you're wise to wipe the tomato rind off your face and behave for a bit.
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September 21st, 2014 at 1:56:29 PM permalink
Jennifer must be having one heck of a good laugh. Gone since the end of May and still causing controversy. She last visited the forum yesterday. Priceless.

If Buzz gets suspended I wonder if it will now count as his first or will it pick up where he left off?
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September 21st, 2014 at 2:04:40 PM permalink
Quote: 1BB

If Buzz gets suspended I wonder if it will that now count as his first or will it pick up where he left off?

Thank god he didn't call anyone "Einstein"!
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September 21st, 2014 at 2:29:04 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Quote: AcesAndEights

As someone who knows a bit about web development, I have to say that this is probably not 100% true. Whoever administrates/develops the site on the back end absolutely could gain access to private messages if they so desired. In this way you are always trusting the site admins of forums when you send private messages. The functionality may not be built in to the web interface so that admins can read PMs (that would be absurd, if you want to even try to pretend they are private), but the systems administrator/webmaster has the database password and access and could, if they so choose, log directly in to the database and read said messages. AxiomOfChoice made this point pretty vehemently just before he left.



Is it 1992?

No matter the level of integrity of the owners, it's the internet. Target, Sony, now Apple... how many examples do you need that your information is only as safe as the level of desire of those who want to take it?

I personally have no interest in any private communication. I have been approached several times before concerning members desiring to reveal PMs to me, and my response is always the same - If it concerns a rule violation, then feel free to tell me. If it's just "interesting", then I'm not interested. I assume Mission and BBB are the same. Wiz has told everyone the same, and I've no reason whatsoever to question his words. Yet after all that, I still never once felt like I have untouchable privacy. It's the internet. And as stupid as I am with computers, even I know that.

I think BBB and OG are the only people to whom I've revealed my first name. Yet I'm quite sure that boymimbo knows both my first and last, just because of stuff I've posted. Is that his fault? Wiz's fault? JB's lack of programming protection? Of course not. boymimbo knows because of information I voluntarily provided, and he put the pieces together. And if I didn't want that info known, well, who's fault is that?



You're name isn't Face?


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September 21st, 2014 at 2:39:44 PM permalink
Quote: Face



I think BBB and OG are the only people to whom I've revealed my first name.



You hurt my feelings.... (wink)
I'm that forgetable?
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September 21st, 2014 at 2:52:42 PM permalink
Quote: Face


I think BBB and OG are the only people to whom I've revealed my first name.



It's not Templeton?
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September 21st, 2014 at 3:13:36 PM permalink
" "Avoiding getting suspended is an art
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gladly accept."

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And yet he has been accused of trolling more than any other member !
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September 21st, 2014 at 3:20:29 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

You hurt my feelings.... (wink)
I'm that forgetable?



Never think it. You were probably the only one who could've prevented my near panic from turning into complete hysteria, and you went so far as to turn it all into simple understanding. I will be forever thankful for that.
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September 21st, 2014 at 3:32:42 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Buzz, darling, if you look back to your first mention of the series that aroused Zuga's ire, you might note that I called you on it, gently, as irresponsible, as I am aware of your skills in satire and cliff-dancing. Which, by the way, is a learned skill (reading between the lines with you). You went gaily on, you got brushed back. Part of the game as you play it.

It wasn't that you were inviting comment; it was that you were invoking the name and reputation of a woman from another forum, there in a professional capacity, who works for Zuga, and conflating her randomly to a woman who was, at best, notorious here, linking them by superficial appearance and sheer coincidence in time. Zuga's been a member since May; do you think he hasn't read back the entire saga of JJ?

While I took you to be highly satirical in doing so, as it's obvious you were mocking the air of affront and conspiracy in the immediate reaction to the sale, it's not at all surprising that Zuga, and perhaps others who don't "get" you (and I don't always), were offended. Comedy is risky; I think you're wise to wipe the tomato rind off your face and behave for a bit.




Babs darlin', you got the 2 mansions, the vacation houses in the Bahamas and Vail, the Rolls and the Lamborghini. Plus a 6 figure monthly stipend. Can I at least keep my DIGNITY ?

OMG I so wish I had retained Aceofspades as my lawyer in parallel universe divorce court !
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September 21st, 2014 at 3:42:58 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Babs darlin', you got the 2 mansions, the vacation houses in the Bahamas and Vail, the Rolls and the Lamborghini. Plus a 6 figure monthly stipend. Can I at least keep my DIGNITY ?

OMG I so wish I had retained Aceofspades as my lawyer in parallel universe divorce court !



Buzz darling,

Love ya. Mean it. Trying to keep you around past first blush of a new day, is all. Kiss Josie for me.
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September 21st, 2014 at 3:46:22 PM permalink
Hey, he's the new guy. I was here first. Maybe not for much longer. But then again Groucho said it first !

“I sent the club a wire stating, PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER.”
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September 21st, 2014 at 7:41:41 PM permalink
I do hope that jennie-baby and the axiomoftruth come back, hey hey.
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September 21st, 2014 at 8:04:40 PM permalink
Quote: soxfan

I do hope that jennie-baby and the axiomoftruth come back, hey hey.



I think there is more of a chance Carlo Egalite the Clown lets you back into his crap website before those two return. LOL.
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September 22nd, 2014 at 8:11:34 PM permalink
I wonder, how much groveling must a cat engage in before being allowed to come back, here, hey hey?
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September 22nd, 2014 at 9:01:53 PM permalink
Quote: Face

Quote: AcesAndEights

As someone who knows a bit about web development, I have to say that this is probably not 100% true. Whoever administrates/develops the site on the back end absolutely could gain access to private messages if they so desired. In this way you are always trusting the site admins of forums when you send private messages. The functionality may not be built in to the web interface so that admins can read PMs (that would be absurd, if you want to even try to pretend they are private), but the systems administrator/webmaster has the database password and access and could, if they so choose, log directly in to the database and read said messages. AxiomOfChoice made this point pretty vehemently just before he left.



Is it 1992?

No matter the level of integrity of the owners, it's the internet. Target, Sony, now Apple... how many examples do you need that your information is only as safe as the level of desire of those who want to take it?

I personally have no interest in any private communication. I have been approached several times before concerning members desiring to reveal PMs to me, and my response is always the same - If it concerns a rule violation, then feel free to tell me. If it's just "interesting", then I'm not interested. I assume Mission and BBB are the same. Wiz has told everyone the same, and I've no reason whatsoever to question his words. Yet after all that, I still never once felt like I have untouchable privacy. It's the internet. And as stupid as I am with computers, even I know that.

I think BBB and OG are the only people to whom I've revealed my first name. Yet I'm quite sure that boymimbo knows both my first and last, just because of stuff I've posted. Is that his fault? Wiz's fault? JB's lack of programming protection? Of course not. boymimbo knows because of information I voluntarily provided, and he put the pieces together. And if I didn't want that info known, well, who's fault is that?



I think the admins are missing the point that A&8s was making. I too have done quite a bit of web development and db work, and A&8s is 100% accurate with his post.
What was being written, by the Admins, was the Admins and Mike and JB could not access PMs. This was being stated as fact, but it is really more like policy, which is completely different. I don't doubt the Admins don't have direct access to the db, and Mike probably doesn't either. But I'd be willing to bet a fair amount that whoever is programming for the site now does, and probably JB still knows the access path. DBs don't run unattended. They require maintenance, and that requires access.
So stating that no one has access as fact just isn't accurate. Stating that our policy is that no one is allowed to access PM data would be accurate. But that again is policy, and there is no way of forcing the new owners to adopt that policy. I believe the new owners are trying to convey that will continue to be their policy.

I think what is really the heart of the matter is, people implicitly trusted Mike and JB with their policy of not abusing PM data and the other information. Now new players are in control, and people are not sure yet if the new players can be trusted. I think the new owners are doing everything they can to try and develop that trust, and start building the relationship, but only time is going to tell if the trust is going to be earned or not.
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September 23rd, 2014 at 12:46:27 AM permalink
Quote: soxfan

I wonder, how much groveling must a cat engage in before being allowed to come back, here, hey hey?

I dunno, I think just a little; something like having a little custom avatar attached to their posts under their screen name should be enough to do the trick:


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September 23rd, 2014 at 8:23:41 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

Quote: Face

Quote: AcesAndEights

As someone who knows a bit about web development, I have to say that this is probably not 100% true. Whoever administrates/develops the site on the back end absolutely could gain access to private messages if they so desired. In this way you are always trusting the site admins of forums when you send private messages. The functionality may not be built in to the web interface so that admins can read PMs (that would be absurd, if you want to even try to pretend they are private), but the systems administrator/webmaster has the database password and access and could, if they so choose, log directly in to the database and read said messages. AxiomOfChoice made this point pretty vehemently just before he left.



Is it 1992?

No matter the level of integrity of the owners, it's the internet. Target, Sony, now Apple... how many examples do you need that your information is only as safe as the level of desire of those who want to take it?

I personally have no interest in any private communication. I have been approached several times before concerning members desiring to reveal PMs to me, and my response is always the same - If it concerns a rule violation, then feel free to tell me. If it's just "interesting", then I'm not interested. I assume Mission and BBB are the same. Wiz has told everyone the same, and I've no reason whatsoever to question his words. Yet after all that, I still never once felt like I have untouchable privacy. It's the internet. And as stupid as I am with computers, even I know that.

I think BBB and OG are the only people to whom I've revealed my first name. Yet I'm quite sure that boymimbo knows both my first and last, just because of stuff I've posted. Is that his fault? Wiz's fault? JB's lack of programming protection? Of course not. boymimbo knows because of information I voluntarily provided, and he put the pieces together. And if I didn't want that info known, well, who's fault is that?



I think the admins are missing the point that A&8s was making. I too have done quite a bit of web development and db work, and A&8s is 100% accurate with his post.
What was being written, by the Admins, was the Admins and Mike and JB could not access PMs. This was being stated as fact, but it is really more like policy, which is completely different. I don't doubt the Admins don't have direct access to the db, and Mike probably doesn't either. But I'd be willing to bet a fair amount that whoever is programming for the site now does, and probably JB still knows the access path. DBs don't run unattended. They require maintenance, and that requires access.
So stating that no one has access as fact just isn't accurate. Stating that our policy is that no one is allowed to access PM data would be accurate. But that again is policy, and there is no way of forcing the new owners to adopt that policy. I believe the new owners are trying to convey that will continue to be their policy.

I think what is really the heart of the matter is, people implicitly trusted Mike and JB with their policy of not abusing PM data and the other information. Now new players are in control, and people are not sure yet if the new players can be trusted. I think the new owners are doing everything they can to try and develop that trust, and start building the relationship, but only time is going to tell if the trust is going to be earned or not.



I'm not missing, or even disagreeing, with you or A&8 or even AoC re: JB's access. When I first talked about it, I said I could be wrong about what JB could do, as it's outside my area; from there, I took what they said as fact, which was that it was designed without access. I'm pretty sure it's possible for JB to have that capability, as you say. He programmed it to be not accessible, but no question, the DB exists with archived PM's. If it exists, it can be accessed. And I, as everyone else, have been relying on both their integrity and their probable lack of interest in my business to keep things private all along, and they have not betrayed that trust.

Since JB remains webadmin, and Mike remains as lead for content, I see no reason to stop thinking the same thing. Zuga has been given admin privileges, but he's not a programmer or a webadmin. His level of access does not, to the best of my knowledge, include DB manipulation or searching. He may be able to see email addresses associated with accounts; I can't, but I'm pretty sure he has access on Mike's level, and I think Mike can. And Zuga has said publicly that private messages remain private; perhaps that requires a leap of faith, but more likely it's a practical statement as well; he doesn't have access.

So, like all of this, the only real difference between today and before (so far) is that we have a new admin. Nothing else has happened. All I've been briefed about the future of this forum is that it will continue as it has, same rules, same people, perhaps some added threads, perhaps some ads around the edges. Status quo is the plan. What the future brings, as always, remains to be seen.
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September 23rd, 2014 at 9:02:44 AM permalink
The basic principle is, and will always be, if the data is stored somewhere, it can be gotten at by anyone with the ability and commitment to do it.

Now, if the data is encrypted, then it's more difficult to see it once you've gotten it. But absent a third-party key, such as is used by PGP, then the encryption can likely be broken eventually. Even a PGP-type key can succumb to a brute force try everything approach, though that could take lots and lots of time.
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September 23rd, 2014 at 10:02:43 PM permalink
Terapined is in red ? Welcome To Fruita. How the hell did that happen !
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September 23rd, 2014 at 10:20:10 PM permalink
Does Terapined suspension here have anything to do with a conversation on LCB with ZUGA ?

I can no longer find it on that forum. But I seem to remember that Zuga thought terapined was calling him a liar !

Which Terapined most certainly was not.
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September 23rd, 2014 at 10:23:35 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

Does Terapined suspension here have anything to do with a conversation on LCB with ZUGA ?

I can no longer find it on that forum. But I seem to remember that Zuga thought terapined was calling him a liar !

Which Terapined most certainly was not.



No. Its on the donation refund topic.


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September 23rd, 2014 at 10:26:13 PM permalink
Surely not for this statement about life REALLY

" Bottom line is this thread is about money.
Too some its not important, to others it is.
Its the way of the world, money changes everything. "
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September 23rd, 2014 at 11:38:55 PM permalink
Terapined seems like the last person that would get suspended, he is usually overly nice IMO.

I noticed Bob is even on his best behavior. Perhaps he is busy because he bought that vintage Bob Stupak roulette board game, and is predicting numbers in the basement.
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September 24th, 2014 at 3:01:01 AM permalink
Hall of shame? I don't think so.

Boz, terapined, Mosca, thank you for your combined 10 years of exemplary participation on this forum. Does anyone think that the new owners are going to be impressed by these suspensions?
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September 24th, 2014 at 3:19:11 AM permalink
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Boz, terapined, Mosca, thank you for your combined 10 years of exemplary participation on this forum.



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September 24th, 2014 at 3:24:53 AM permalink
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Hall of shame? I don't think so.

Boz, terapined, Mosca, thank you for your combined 10 years of exemplary participation on this forum. Does anyone think that the new owners are going to be impressed by these suspensions?

Seriously doubt the care right now. They may never care, they might not want to mess with what's been working so far, as far as traffic, just add banners and a bonus thread as the main focus.
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September 24th, 2014 at 4:10:21 AM permalink
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Hall of shame? I don't think so.

Boz, terapined, Mosca, thank you for your combined 10 years of exemplary participation on this forum. Does anyone think that the new owners are going to be impressed by these suspensions?



why would they be impressed? All 3 went over the top in the donation thread and all deserve a suspension. I do hope that they all come back.
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September 24th, 2014 at 5:45:28 AM permalink
I have a question.

If a person is nuked for "trolling," then has their sentence reduced to being banned from the forum for 30 days for "trolling," why are we not allowed to refer to said person as a "troll?"

(This is my way of saying I think terapined's suspension is B.S.)
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:02:08 AM permalink
LL always claims, "I didn't do anything wrong." Oh, the irony!

Oops, wrong thread.
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:25:20 AM permalink
B9 was blue just a few minutes ago! LOL.
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:31:40 AM permalink
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B9 was blue just a few minutes ago! LOL.



I think he looks much better in Red.
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:44:47 AM permalink
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B9 was blue just a few minutes ago! LOL.




BBB took him out in the donation refund thread. Nuclear option.
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:47:41 AM permalink
How about a commutation for the three under suspension? I don't there would be any objections.
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:50:28 AM permalink
B9 is very good at bating folks without crossing the line. He did it to a few others including myself. He fell on his own knife the first time around but he was saved by a few others. Don't think the second time is going to be so lucky for him.
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:52:57 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

LL always claims, "I didn't do anything wrong." Oh, the irony!

Oops, wrong thread.



B9's last post was an attempt to troll me!

I feel so honored.

Good riddance.
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September 24th, 2014 at 6:57:06 AM permalink
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How about a commutation for the three under suspension? I don't there would be any objections.



I agree 100%.

terapined was banned for calling him a troll.

He was just nuked for trolling.

terapined was correct.
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September 24th, 2014 at 7:06:55 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

I agree 100%.

terapined was banned for calling him a troll.

He was just nuked for trolling.

terapined was correct.



Yeah, I think it was a grammatical error. What teapined was trying to say was, B9's POST was a troll. That would have been legal, since it was attacking the post, and not the poster.

I bet the word POST must have gotten deleted, perhaps by a bug in the software? Maybe JB should needs to look into the code? We already know there is a bug where some posts get double posted. So if there is one known bug, how much of s stretch is it to believe there are more bugs we don't know about yet?

In all seriousness, weren't questions raised before about what you could say about someone, if you could prove they were true? I don't recall the outcome, but if truth is always allowed, then ams288 has brought up a very valid argument. The nuke for trolling has established the truth.
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September 24th, 2014 at 7:25:10 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

The nuke for trolling has established the truth.

Perhaps. In fact that thread brought out many differing opinions, some were parsed under different criteria. There is not a lot of consistency in dealing with trolling and almost never for flooding. Yet another internet opinion.

Mike fell upon hard times, held out the tin cup. Unbeknownst to him in a very short amount of time he would get the windfall that he had been unable to realize by monetizing the WoO on a current basis. He then offered to refund the gratuities or contribute to charity. That offer was parsed ad infinitum but it sure looks like the right thing as he had no obligation to do so. End of story. Again, just IMNSHO.
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September 24th, 2014 at 9:47:05 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps


In all seriousness, weren't questions raised before about what you could say about someone, if you could prove they were true? I don't recall the outcome, but if truth is always allowed, then ams288 has brought up a very valid argument. The nuke for trolling has established the truth.



There were. It was covered in depth when Wiz held a discussion upon the implementation of the newest version of rules. As he stated, the validity of the claim does not give the claim a pass. Insults were completely verboten.

I personally suspended Mosca for his double bout of profanity and insults. I consider myself a big Mosca fan, but rules is rules. I did not do Boz and Terapined, but I would have if I saw it first. Each of which I would have done for also going down the path of profanity and insults. Drop the use of "troll", and there was still plenty in there for both of them to earn their time out. A fact I'm sure they know, because they stated such in their posts.

Perhaps they now feel justified in their martyrdom. For what it's worth, I hope that all three come back.
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