Discussion about the Suspension List
February 4th, 2013 at 4:58:44 PM
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Quote: 1BBThanks guys. I guess I didn't miss him that much. I'm surprised that banned members can still log on. What's the point?
Yeah, I miss him too. He said something he "shouldn't have", then WAY over-reacted to the "punishment" and got nuked. But I wish he could come back.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
February 4th, 2013 at 5:01:32 PM
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What I was getting at was why is a permanently banned member even given the privilege of of logging on?
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
February 5th, 2013 at 8:18:33 AM
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Quote: 1BBWhat I was getting at was why is a permanently banned member even given the privilege of of logging on?
For the same reason pillories were placed in public.
February 10th, 2013 at 2:19:12 PM
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s3an26 is nuked for soliciting. Offending post. As a reminder, soliciting may only be done with admin approval, which is given to members in good standing on a limited basis.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
February 10th, 2013 at 4:32:35 PM
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Just like a gunslinger in the old west, the wounded Wiz shoots the bad guy.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 3rd, 2013 at 3:58:00 PM
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Err... what happened to EB?
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
March 4th, 2013 at 8:37:48 AM
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Quote: MonkeyMonkeyIt's not entirely clear but this is probably as illuminating as it will get.
CLEAR AS MUD !
Gee, I thought we were adults here. A joke goes back and forth, then suddenly somebody decides it's not funny. It goes from sex tapes to IP addresses. What part of " it's a joke " don't people understand?
Ip address joke is one of the oldest jokes on the planet dragged into the 21 st century. It used to be " Do you notice you never see Buzz and EvenBob in the same room ever ? " Only makes sense in a forum to mention identical IP addresses !
Ignorance of the law is no excuse. But when it takes Mission 146 3 paragraphs and 200 words looking thru an administrative prism to explain the charges against Bob ? I mean this is a gambling forum, not a law journal.
If the offense was indeed clear cut, why does Mission defer to the Wizard of Odds to render a Pontios Pilate decision ? Now Mike can handle it I am sure, but should not have to worry about supporting an Administrator's decision. Having found the defendant guilty, why does Mission seek Mike's counsel instead of using his own powers ?
The Wizard of Odds did not
get his name from a Supreme Court justice, but a mobster named Donald Angelini. Can't we just get back to being a gambling forum and not worry about every little infraction, imagined or otherwise.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 4th, 2013 at 8:42:57 AM
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"Consistency : Thou art a jewel" Often attributed to Shakespeare but I have never found it in any of his works that I remember reading. But that does not diminish it's worth.
Still trying to understand why EvenBob was suspended and the person who used the n word in a derogatory manner
was not ?
Still trying to understand why EvenBob was suspended and the person who used the n word in a derogatory manner
was not ?
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 4th, 2013 at 9:27:39 AM
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Yeah, I don't get it. I don't think EvenBob should have been banned.
His comments I think were in jest and
made the point that one line banter
between two people in the same hotel is
something that should be saved for private
messages. I don't think any bullying was
really going on, especially in the context of
knowing EvenBob and his other 9,000 posts.
Perhaps I should self-ban for harassing Ahigh for
commenting on the scintilling TV programs, or
we should ban someone else for starting the
kleenex thread.
We all are a little bit loose on this forum, and you
have to be thick skinned here and be willing to
accept some level of harassment from differing
opinions.
And if the rules are going to change for one
member, we should all be put on notice.
His comments I think were in jest and
made the point that one line banter
between two people in the same hotel is
something that should be saved for private
messages. I don't think any bullying was
really going on, especially in the context of
knowing EvenBob and his other 9,000 posts.
Perhaps I should self-ban for harassing Ahigh for
commenting on the scintilling TV programs, or
we should ban someone else for starting the
kleenex thread.
We all are a little bit loose on this forum, and you
have to be thick skinned here and be willing to
accept some level of harassment from differing
opinions.
And if the rules are going to change for one
member, we should all be put on notice.
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You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
March 4th, 2013 at 10:17:16 AM
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Of course the comments were in jest and yes the rules change for different members. We are often reminded of this and in fact have been told that anyone not liking it could leave. This is an ugly side of an otherwise great forum, a forum whose very success is because of the different ideas, opinions and personalities that abound here.
Bob was banned for trolling/bullying. I've read and reread the definitions of both words and I just don't see it in this case. To avoid future confusion, let's get this site's definition of these two words into the Forum Rules.
In the meantime some may argue that the only one being bullied here is Bob.
Bob was banned for trolling/bullying. I've read and reread the definitions of both words and I just don't see it in this case. To avoid future confusion, let's get this site's definition of these two words into the Forum Rules.
In the meantime some may argue that the only one being bullied here is Bob.
Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi
March 4th, 2013 at 10:19:10 AM
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The thing about the rooms read like a joke, the thing about the IP addresses read like an accusation.
I have no opinion on whether or not it rose to the level of action.
I have no opinion on whether or not it rose to the level of action.
A falling knife has no handle.
March 4th, 2013 at 10:31:18 AM
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OF COURSE Bob was kidding. I mean, really, as if EB could possibly figure out his OWN IP address.......;-)
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
March 4th, 2013 at 10:38:49 AM
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I initially visited this site, because of wizard and his knowledge and expertise in the gambling world. It's one of a few that I visit regularly to try to enhance my own knowledge, maybe pick up some tidbit of info or promotion. But the truth is this site has little to do with Vegas (as the title would lead you to believe) or gaming. Mostly it is just about entertainment. I have suspected for some time that many of the so-called trip reports (especially AC related) are much more fiction than reality. But the membership seems to enjoy this aspect and it fits in with what the site seems to really be....entertainment.
Now, I like Bob. Had issues with him at times in some of the political discussions, but that's OK, it's a free country....we need people on the wrong side too. lol But....Bob being bullied? I have trouble with even the suggestion of this. Bob likes to stir thinks up, no doubt, so if something backfires on him, that's the way it is. I don't feel sorry for him, nor feel like he is being bullied. I have no idea what his intent here was, so I am not going to defend him. Did he cross the line?? Not in my opinion, but it's not my forum.
But I will say this, if this suspension holds for any length of time, or Bob takes long-term offense and chooses to cease participating, those of you that visit this forum way to often for this entertainment, will miss him. lol
Now, I like Bob. Had issues with him at times in some of the political discussions, but that's OK, it's a free country....we need people on the wrong side too. lol But....Bob being bullied? I have trouble with even the suggestion of this. Bob likes to stir thinks up, no doubt, so if something backfires on him, that's the way it is. I don't feel sorry for him, nor feel like he is being bullied. I have no idea what his intent here was, so I am not going to defend him. Did he cross the line?? Not in my opinion, but it's not my forum.
But I will say this, if this suspension holds for any length of time, or Bob takes long-term offense and chooses to cease participating, those of you that visit this forum way to often for this entertainment, will miss him. lol
March 4th, 2013 at 10:44:52 AM
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I fear we have seen the last of EvenBob !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 4th, 2013 at 10:48:08 AM
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Quote: rdw4potusOF COURSE Bob was kidding. I mean, really, as if EB could possibly figure out his OWN IP address.......;-)
Don't be so sure... he was talking about using various IP masking tools for his own purposes.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
March 4th, 2013 at 11:12:10 AM
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I lay 2 to 1 he can not spell IP if you spot him the I !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 4th, 2013 at 12:08:21 PM
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I'm at work, using my iPhone. I'll post more later.
For a variety of reasons, I have unbanned EvenBob.
(Yes, I'm a not-so-secret administrator.)
For a variety of reasons, I have unbanned EvenBob.
(Yes, I'm a not-so-secret administrator.)
I invented a few casino games. Info:
http://www.DaveMillerGaming.com/ —————————————————————————————————————
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March 4th, 2013 at 12:13:19 PM
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Oooooh, Admin fight!!
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
March 4th, 2013 at 12:15:00 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearFor a variety of reasons, I have unbanned EvenBob.
The opinions of this moderator are for entertainment purposes only.
March 4th, 2013 at 12:21:23 PM
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Thanks for all the support. I still don't know what
exactly happened, its all very odd. To say the least.
exactly happened, its all very odd. To say the least.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 4th, 2013 at 12:30:33 PM
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Guess now is as good a time as any to say I have nothing but respect for Mission 146. Being an administrator is a thankless job.
It's just that I thought Mission had made a mistakes. Anyone who know my checkered past or has ever been a Chief Stop Steward
knows I am double qualified as an expert in mistakes.
Thanks for all you good works, Mission. REALLY !
It's just that I thought Mission had made a mistakes. Anyone who know my checkered past or has ever been a Chief Stop Steward
knows I am double qualified as an expert in mistakes.
Thanks for all you good works, Mission. REALLY !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 4th, 2013 at 12:38:18 PM
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Quote: rdw4potusOooooh, Admin fight!!
Oh, not at all. In order to fight, they have to at least talk to each other.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
March 4th, 2013 at 12:44:32 PM
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Quote: EvenBobThanks for all the support. I still don't know what
exactly happened, its all very odd. To say the least.
Can we not ban Evenbob
for all of the word wraps in
his posts which are lame.
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You want the truth! You can't handle the truth!
March 4th, 2013 at 12:53:00 PM
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Quote: BuzzardI lay 2 to 1 he can not spell IP if you spot him the I !
Okay Bob, here's a nice chance for you... what's IP stand for? I don't think you need to be spotted the I.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
March 4th, 2013 at 12:58:24 PM
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Quote: thecesspitOkay Bob, here's a nice chance for you... what's IP stand for? I don't think you need to be spotted the I.
Its stands for Internet Pictograph. Obviously if
I didn't know what it meant I could just look it
up. I didn't know what it meant in 1992, until
I read the instructions on how to set up my
dial up modem. Remember those?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 4th, 2013 at 1:00:08 PM
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Quote: boymimboCan we not ban Evenbob
for all of the word wraps in
his posts which are lame.
I read somewhere this is catching on because
your brain can see the whole paragraph at
once without having to move your eyes across
the page. Comprehension is much faster.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 4th, 2013 at 1:00:28 PM
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Quote: EvenBobIts stands for Internet Pictograph.
(grin)
Quote:Obviously if
I didn't know what it meant I could just look it
up.
Naturally.
Quote:I didn't know what it meant in 1992, until
I read the instructions on how to set up my
dial up modem. Remember those?
Yep.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
March 4th, 2013 at 1:06:43 PM
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Quote: kewljI initially visited this site, because of wizard and his knowledge and expertise in the gambling world. It's one of a few that I visit regularly to try to enhance my own knowledge, maybe pick up some tidbit of info or promotion. But the truth is this site has little to do with Vegas (as the title would lead you to believe) or gaming. Mostly it is just about entertainment. I have suspected for some time that many of the so-called trip reports (especially AC related) are much more fiction than reality. But the membership seems to enjoy this aspect and it fits in with what the site seems to really be....entertainment.
As someone who is exclusively interested in content related to gambling and Las Vegas, I have to agree. I don't mind entertainment as long as it is related to the subjects of gambling and Las Vegas.
I often find myself being told things by people who neither play craps or live in Las Vegas about how I don't know what I'm talking about. It's really a little bit funny, and I respect authorities when it comes to math.
But I live here and play very nearly non-stop craps, and I post nearly non stop ABOUT craps on this forum thinking that is what the forum is for.
It would be awesome if more of the frequent posters had more in common with me than they do.
aahigh.com
March 4th, 2013 at 1:29:50 PM
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I know it is a bit of work, but first thing to the site, block all threads that you have no interest in.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
March 4th, 2013 at 1:46:01 PM
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Love your tag line.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 4th, 2013 at 3:10:57 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI'm at work, using my iPhone. I'll post more later.
For a variety of reasons, I have unbanned EvenBob.
(Yes, I'm a not-so-secret administrator.)
Greetings!
I understand and appreciate that there are mixed opinions about this ban and that the majority of people feel that an in-thread Warning would have been more appropriate to the perceived offense. I will take this feedback into consideration for future infractions of this nature, though I hope that there will not be any.
For the record, I Suspended EvenBob on Saturday and sent Wizard a PM deferring the length of the Suspension to him because it was a unique reason for a Suspension, and I generally defer to him on length for unique Suspensions. The Wizard replied to my PM and suggested that a Suspension of one week would be appropriate for the offense.
At some point between the initial ban and my receipt of Wizard's PM, DJTeddyBear Unsuspended EvenBob. The reversal will stand.
I will be adding a Rule to the Rules list later today that falsely accusing another Member of violating a Rule is a violation, because there is some perceived ambiguity as to whether or not same constitutes trolling/bullying.
Though Wizard concurred with my initial Suspension, I apologize to any parties who were offended or confused that a Member would be Suspended for this reason.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
March 4th, 2013 at 3:26:40 PM
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A week? Definitely longer than I would have thought was necessary. I agreed with the initial suspension, but was okay with DJ's reversal too. EvenBob was likely joking about it in the first place, but it didn't come off as that "joking" to me.
March 4th, 2013 at 3:29:00 PM
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" I will be adding a Rule to the Rules list later today that falsely accusing another Member of violating a Rule is a violation, because there is some perceived ambiguity as to whether or not same constitutes trolling/bullying. "
Allow me to use my 30+ years as a Chief Shop Steward to explain the latest ruling in layman's terms.
The beatings will continue until moral improves !
Allow me to use my 30+ years as a Chief Shop Steward to explain the latest ruling in layman's terms.
The beatings will continue until moral improves !
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
March 4th, 2013 at 3:33:17 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneA week? Definitely longer than I would have thought was necessary..
I held my breath for 2 days so it was reduced to
time served and picking trash up on the freeway
for a month. Sigh.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 4th, 2013 at 3:34:12 PM
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Quote: Mission146For the record, I Suspended EvenBob on Saturday and sent Wizard a PM deferring the length of the Suspension to him because it was a unique reason for a Suspension, and I generally defer to him on length for unique Suspensions. The Wizard replied to my PM and suggested that a Suspension of one week would be appropriate for the offense.
At some point between the initial ban and my receipt of Wizard's PM, DJTeddyBear Unsuspended EvenBob. The reversal will stand.
I forget the name of the Prussian politician who said the making of law, like the making of sausage, should be hidden from the public. In this case the mods and admins should not each announce who's doing what, beyond the initial announcement of suspension. If a suspension is suspended, then it falls to the site owner (you know who you are), to anounce that.
Because right now you're all giving the impression of a leadership that's disorganized, confused and which does not care to consult even between themselves. This si not good for everyday business. But it would be terrible if there's a major tiff (and there will be one eventually).
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
March 4th, 2013 at 3:58:12 PM
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Quote: NareedI forget the name of the Prussian politician who said the making of law, like the making of sausage, should be hidden from the public. In this case the mods and admins should not each announce who's doing what, beyond the initial announcement of suspension. If a suspension is suspended, then it falls to the site owner (you know who you are), to anounce that.
Thank you for the input, Nareed.
In terms of publicly announcing my decisions, I do so because I want my Moderation to be as transparent as possible. I like being able to invite the opportunity for people to publicly opine and/or debate not only my actions, but also my reasoning for said actions. The only way that I can ever become better as a site Administrator is to be open to the input of those Members over whom I Administer.
To the last part, DJTeddyBear unbanned EvenBob today and The Wizard has not been logged on today. I tend to believe that Wizard is not aware of DJTeddyBear's reversal of EvenBob's Suspension.
Quote:Because right now you're all giving the impression of a leadership that's disorganized, confused and which does not care to consult even between themselves. This si not good for everyday business. But it would be terrible if there's a major tiff (and there will be one eventually).
That is something to be taken into consideration. I'm not sure what compelled DJTeddyBear to reverse EvenBob's ban, but it is what it is. I have no personal reason that I should want EvenBob to be banned, so I'm not upset about it.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
March 4th, 2013 at 3:58:51 PM
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Quote: EvenBobI read somewhere this is catching on because
your brain can see the whole paragraph at
once without having to move your eyes across
the page. Comprehension is much faster.
I don't mind it. If it went about 2/3 of the way across the page instead of just halfway
it might be a little easier to read yet because it would go less far down the page and
fit more on the same screen.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
March 4th, 2013 at 4:28:19 PM
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Quote: Mission146In terms of publicly announcing my decisions, I do so because I want my Moderation to be as transparent as possible.
That's very fine. But beyond saying "I suspended X because of Y for N days," there shouldn't be any other anouncements by anyone but the Wizard.
Quote:To the last part, DJTeddyBear unbanned EvenBob today and The Wizard has not been logged on today. I tend to believe that Wizard is not aware of DJTeddyBear's reversal of EvenBob's Suspension.
That's hopelessly tangled and confused. Did the other guy know you and the Wizard agreed on a 7-day suspension? Regardless, why did he lift it, and did he even tell you about it before lifting it?
Quote:That is something to be taken into consideration. I'm not sure what compelled DJTeddyBear to reverse EvenBob's ban,
That answers one question :)
But, seriously, next we'll be having warring mods. If suspensions are to be of any use, then you all need to be in on it and coordinate your actions. Otherwise you'll be lifting the other guy's suspensions just to show him up, or to retaliate. Maybe not you personally, but I hope you get the idea.
There is value in one admin being able to lift another's suspensions. You can correct injustice, say, if injustice there be. But you can also end up with the right hand no knowing what the left one's doing.
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
March 4th, 2013 at 5:11:05 PM
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Entertaining. A thicker skin would be helpful. In a town where anything is available, y'all should be able to pick one up on the cheap.
March 4th, 2013 at 7:58:12 PM
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Quote: AZDuffmanI don't mind it. If it went about 2/3 of the way across the page instead of just halfway
it might be a little easier to read yet because it would go less far down the page and
fit more on the same screen.
Yeah, unfortunately the shorter each line length is
the text becomes easier to read I think. But then again,
this creates more lines, and more scrolling. It probably
depends on your reading skills to determine which methods
are best for you to efficiently read the forum.
Good idea, Bob!
March 4th, 2013 at 8:19:34 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneYeah, unfortunately the shorter each line length is
the text becomes easier to read I think.
Here's the deal. My average line has about 10 words
in it. A hardcover or a paperback books each have
lines of about 10 words. The print is bigger in a hardcover,
thats why its the same as a paperback. This format
is easy to read, thats why they use it.
When you write all the way across the page, the line seems to run on and never end. Its easy for the eye to get confused and lose its place and its not uncommon to start to read the same sentence twice. That sucks. These lines have an average of 25 words in them, far too many.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 4th, 2013 at 8:42:30 PM
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Quote: NareedI forget the name of the Prussian politician who said the making of law, like the making of sausage, should be hidden from the public.
Misattributed to Bismarck.
March 4th, 2013 at 9:28:22 PM
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Quote: paisielloMisattributed to Bismarck.
I cheer every time a quotation is not mis-attributed to Mark Twain (you can quote me on that)
Donald Trump is a fucking criminal
March 4th, 2013 at 9:44:09 PM
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Quote: tringlomaneA week? Definitely longer than I would have thought was necessary. I agreed with the initial suspension, but was okay with DJ's reversal too. EvenBob was likely joking about it in the first place, but it didn't come off as that "joking" to me.
Were the suspension to stand, it would have to be at least a week in duration to keep with the increasing duration policy for repeated violations.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
March 4th, 2013 at 10:36:15 PM
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You should have just said it was the straw which broke the camel's back. The guy who sacrificed himself with an automatic ban for his poll may have been trying to make a point. How often are these suspensions the result of drinking and posting I wonder.
I am a robot.
March 4th, 2013 at 11:07:57 PM
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Quote: onenickelmiracleHow often are these suspensions the result of drinking and posting I wonder.
I resemble that remark, sir..
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
March 4th, 2013 at 11:23:13 PM
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Quote: EvenBob
I read somewhere this is catching on because
your brain can see the whole paragraph at
once without having to move your eyes across
the page. Comprehension is much faster.Quote: AZDuffmanI don't mind it. If it went about 2/3 of the way across the page instead of just halfway
it might be a little easier to read yet because it would go less far down the page and
fit more on the same screen.
I read somewhere, on my phone I think, that it's annoying as hell and you should let the reader format the text in the way that is most comfortable for them. For example when I read an EvenBob post on my phone it often looks like this (just using some generic Lorem ipsum for example sake, EvenBob isn't usually at this level of gibberish):
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,
consectetur
adipiscing elit. Integer nec odio.
Praesent
libero. Sed cursus ante dapibus
diam.
Sed nisi. Nulla quis sem at nibh
elementum
imperdiet. Duis sagittis ipsum.
I also feels it hurts EB's credibility because the typical poster that uses this style is a noob that doesn't know what they're talking about. IMO, the only way EB could make himself look more like a neophyte IS IF HE POSTED IN ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME.
Of course if that's a perception he's comfortable projecting, then whatever, I just don't think he's doing himself any favors.
March 5th, 2013 at 4:13:15 AM
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Quote: tringlomaneYeah, unfortunately the shorter each line length is
the text becomes easier to read I think. But then again,
this creates more lines, and more scrolling. It probably
depends on your reading skills to determine which methods
are best for you to efficiently read the forum.
Good idea, Bob!
Well there is a
limit, so I will
just enjoy the
posts of EB and
let my text use
the wrap length
the programmer
chose.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
March 5th, 2013 at 4:30:29 AM
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Sorry I couldn't respond sooner. My internet time at work has been severely curtailed. As a result, I haven't been as active as I would like.
I DID read most of the posts here, but did not fully understand why Bob was suspended. Couple that with all the questions, and I was really confused about it.
I noticed that Mission was going to defer the duration to Mike, but I also saw that Mike hasn't been on WoV since sometime on Sunday. His last post was early Sunday morning (Saturday night?)
I then looked at the suspension list to see what clues might be there. There was no entry for this event. (Mission: Are you aware that although it's a locked thread, moderators CAN edit that list? FYI: We have to unlock the thread, edit it, and re-lock it, and hope that nobody else posts during that two minutes that it's unlocked.)
I was about to investigate further when I received a phone call from EvenBob.* He asked me if I knew what was going on, etc. I said I didn't, but that I felt the suspension was in error. Or at least leaving the duration up to Mike was a mistake particularly since Mike is currently MIA.
On the grand scale of things, what's better? To err and leave a suspension in place? Or to err and lift it?
I felt that either way, assuming the suspension was justified, that Bob got his wrist slapped, and won't do it again. Assuming it wasn't justified, then thankfully the punishment wasn't much more than a wrist slap.
So I unbanned him.
* Note that EvenBob calling me on the phone might be perceived by some as some sort of violation of privacy or forum rules. I don't view it that way. But I also view myself as a special case because I have posted my phone number several times (usually prior to meet-ups), as well as have it on my Poker For Roulette website. So a single phone call is no offense.
Also note that I disagree with the decision to make me a "secret" moderator, although, as it turns out, being secret was originally intended to prevent such a phone call or other contact of this nature.
I DID read most of the posts here, but did not fully understand why Bob was suspended. Couple that with all the questions, and I was really confused about it.
I noticed that Mission was going to defer the duration to Mike, but I also saw that Mike hasn't been on WoV since sometime on Sunday. His last post was early Sunday morning (Saturday night?)
I then looked at the suspension list to see what clues might be there. There was no entry for this event. (Mission: Are you aware that although it's a locked thread, moderators CAN edit that list? FYI: We have to unlock the thread, edit it, and re-lock it, and hope that nobody else posts during that two minutes that it's unlocked.)
I was about to investigate further when I received a phone call from EvenBob.* He asked me if I knew what was going on, etc. I said I didn't, but that I felt the suspension was in error. Or at least leaving the duration up to Mike was a mistake particularly since Mike is currently MIA.
On the grand scale of things, what's better? To err and leave a suspension in place? Or to err and lift it?
I felt that either way, assuming the suspension was justified, that Bob got his wrist slapped, and won't do it again. Assuming it wasn't justified, then thankfully the punishment wasn't much more than a wrist slap.
So I unbanned him.
* Note that EvenBob calling me on the phone might be perceived by some as some sort of violation of privacy or forum rules. I don't view it that way. But I also view myself as a special case because I have posted my phone number several times (usually prior to meet-ups), as well as have it on my Poker For Roulette website. So a single phone call is no offense.
Also note that I disagree with the decision to make me a "secret" moderator, although, as it turns out, being secret was originally intended to prevent such a phone call or other contact of this nature.
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