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February 6th, 2022 at 2:54:01 PM permalink
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I have requested Dieter to still do some duties as moderator, as though he were a secret mod (I.e he gets another mod to write up any actions ) He doesn't get a 3 day holiday that easily $:o)
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3 days solitary in an 8x8 room with padded grey walls...
at least I had a few decks of cards and a minimal complement of small appliances.

My apologies to ssho88 and teliot. I should have seen that the banter was crowding out the active topical discussion, and I did not. It was a fair bust, and I have no hard feelings.
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February 6th, 2022 at 4:08:51 PM permalink
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Like this guy winning all 264 Pick 3 tickets : https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article258055273.html

In the end I suppose we must let common sense be our guide.
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He played only two different sets of numbers. In one drawing he purchased 104 tickets and the other 160. The probability of winning is 1 in 1,000. Thus, the probability of winning both is 1 in 1,000,000. Not news worthy. By comparison, Alan's 18 yo's is almost like winning this lottery 4 out of 4 times.
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February 6th, 2022 at 6:10:16 PM permalink
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Like this guy winning all 264 Pick 3 tickets : https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article258055273.html

In the end I suppose we must let common sense be our guide.
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He played only two different sets of numbers. In one drawing he purchased 104 tickets and the other 160. The probability of winning is 1 in 1,000. Thus, the probability of winning both is 1 in 1,000,000. Not news worthy. By comparison, Alan's 18 yo's is almost like winning this lottery 4 out of 4 times.
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You like to bring up my witnessing a random player throwing a yo 18 times in a row at Caesars Palace.

Allow me the courtesy to say that it's what I saw, and not what I threw.

I'm sorry there is no proof unlike the three times the dice finished stacked at Red Rock; I sent you those photos along with dates, times and names of the boxmen so you could verify them.
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February 8th, 2022 at 9:58:13 AM permalink
Hmm. About suspensions being made because of calling out skeptical things. Ill give out an example I was personally told on a Website along with other Posters.

"Darth Vader broke into my house and tried to use the force to force me to join the Dark Side!"

This is obviously Fiction and saying something like,"That seems really unlikely," will most likely not result in a Suspension, but saying something like, "You are obviously lying and a troll," must likely will result in a Suspension. It really is a fine line to navigate.

Here's a skeptical, but possibly likely thing I was also personally told on a Website along with other Posters.

"I was at a bar and a Pop Star got drunk and showed her vagina to us. Her manager paid all of the other Patrons including me $1,000 bribe and begged us to not go to the Media about her drunken antics."

This was met with respectable skepticism, but no one right out called the Poster a liar. Had anyone called him a liar outright, they could have been Suspended.
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February 8th, 2022 at 10:28:43 AM permalink
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You like to bring up my witnessing a random player throwing a yo 18 times in a row at Caesars Palace.

Allow me the courtesy to say that it's what I saw, and not what I threw.

I'm sorry there is no proof unlike the three times the dice finished stacked at Red Rock; I sent you those photos along with dates, times and names of the boxmen so you could verify them.
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Mr. Mendelson: You need to ignore those posts or learn to put the "heat" on those who would produce discomfort.

I once threw a 7 one time in a row. Imagine that!!

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February 8th, 2022 at 10:40:58 AM permalink
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You like to bring up my witnessing a random player throwing a yo 18 times in a row at Caesars Palace.


Allow me the courtesy to say that it's what I saw, and not what I threw.

I'm sorry there is no proof unlike the three times the dice finished stacked at Red Rock; I sent you those photos along with dates, times and names of the boxmen so you could verify them.
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Mr. Mendelson: You need to ignore those posts or learn to put the "heat" on those who would produce discomfort.

I once threw a 7 one time in a row. Imagine that!!

tuttigym
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My friend: Grab your scientific calculator and give us the number 1/18 to the 18th power! And get this: No one bet on it!
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February 8th, 2022 at 12:53:48 PM permalink
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Mr. Mendelson: You need to ignore those posts or learn to put the "heat" on those who would produce discomfort.



Better yet, if you feel it is warranted you could consider making an act of contrition, ending it with a tearful "WTF was I thinking?"

We all can make mistakes at times and might "think" we see things we really don't see, and otherwise misunderstand a bit of reality.

But 18 yo's in a row boggles both the mind and the math, given that the odds against it happening are tantamount to it being impossible.

Egad.
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February 8th, 2022 at 12:54:09 PM permalink
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Hmm. About suspensions being made because of calling out skeptical things. Ill give out an example I was personally told on a Website along with other Posters.

"Darth Vader broke into my house and tried to use the force to force me to join the Dark Side!"



If he tried to force you join the white side, that would be unbelievable.



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This is obviously Fiction and saying something like,"That seems really unlikely," will most likely not result in a Suspension, but saying something like, "You are obviously lying and a troll," must likely will result in a Suspension. It really is a fine line to navigate.

Here's a skeptical, but possibly likely thing I was also personally told on a Website along with other Posters.

"I was at a bar and a Pop Star got drunk and showed her vagina to us. Her manager paid all of the other Patrons including me $1,000 bribe and begged us to not go to the Media about her drunken antics."



Probably happens all the time. You know the antics of drunk celebrities.

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This was met with respectable skepticism, but no one right out called the Poster a liar. Had anyone called him a liar outright, they could have been Suspended.
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February 8th, 2022 at 6:26:06 PM permalink
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"I was at a bar and a Pop Star got drunk and showed her vagina to us. Her manager paid all of the other Patrons including me $1,000 bribe and begged us to not go to the Media about her drunken antics."

This was met with respectable skepticism, but no one right out called the Poster a liar. Had anyone called him a liar outright, they could have been Suspended.
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I think the responses range from "Cool story, bro" to "I checked Ms. Star's public calendar and TMZ to see where she may have been, and there is no way she took a night off from her vacation in the Bahamas to come to a bar in Poniatowski", depending on how many times we hear it with amended details.
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February 8th, 2022 at 7:34:44 PM permalink
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Quote: tuttigym

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You like to bring up my witnessing a random player throwing a yo 18 times in a row at Caesars Palace.


Allow me the courtesy to say that it's what I saw, and not what I threw.

I'm sorry there is no proof unlike the three times the dice finished stacked at Red Rock; I sent you those photos along with dates, times and names of the boxmen so you could verify them.
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Mr. Mendelson: You need to ignore those posts or learn to put the "heat" on those who would produce discomfort.

I once threw a 7 one time in a row. Imagine that!!

tuttigym
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My friend: Grab your scientific calculator and give us the number 1/18 to the 18th power! And get this: No one bet on it!
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Of course no one bet on it. Who would imagine that another yo would be thrown?

Tell me, do you bet on a yo everytime you see a yo? Isnt that something ploppies do?
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February 9th, 2022 at 3:19:39 AM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Quote: DeMango

Quote: tuttigym

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You like to bring up my witnessing a random player throwing a yo 18 times in a row at Caesars Palace.


Allow me the courtesy to say that it's what I saw, and not what I threw.

I'm sorry there is no proof unlike the three times the dice finished stacked at Red Rock; I sent you those photos along with dates, times and names of the boxmen so you could verify them.
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Mr. Mendelson: You need to ignore those posts or learn to put the "heat" on those who would produce discomfort.

I once threw a 7 one time in a row. Imagine that!!

tuttigym
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My friend: Grab your scientific calculator and give us the number 1/18 to the 18th power! And get this: No one bet on it!
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Of course no one bet on it. Who would imagine that another yo would be thrown?

Tell me, do you bet on a yo everytime you see a yo? Isnt that something ploppies do?
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After 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14..... (take your pick) You're almost certain that it's not a random thing and you absolutely bet it. IF you saw it happen, then it definitely wasn't random. I would assume it was something magnetic that was being turned off and on and that's why the dice seemed normal when the stick man rattled them around on the table.
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February 9th, 2022 at 12:01:25 PM permalink
Agreement with the Axel. How many real craps players would not jump on this? How long to table Max? Say 8-10. Per player $15,000 per Yo (CP assuming $1K max bet) Maybe $150K assuming 10 bets at table max. Front page local news just like grandma and her craps roll in AC. And a ton more TV coverage.

And no one talked.

No one betting is just as unbelievable.

This far exceeds any tale MDawg ever came up with, not even close.
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February 9th, 2022 at 1:17:19 PM permalink
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This far exceeds any tale MDawg ever came up with, not even close.




there's a great big difference

Alan's tale doesn't glorify himself - there is no brag to it - he's just saying he saw it happen

I think Alan mistakenly remembers something - sometimes a person's memory plays tricks on them

I've remembered some things that involve others that the others have told me didn't happen - I really don't know who's right and who's wrong - me or them

I don't know what the big deal is - for me it falls into the so what category

everybody is so intent on proving Alan wrong - who cares?


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February 9th, 2022 at 1:26:34 PM permalink
If he didn't try to defend himself every time, people would stop trying to get a rise out of him. At this point, it is an urban legend, true or not.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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February 9th, 2022 at 1:52:03 PM permalink
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This far exceeds any tale MDawg ever came up with, not even close.




there's a great big difference

Alan's tale doesn't glorify himself - there is no brag to it - he's just saying he saw it happen

I think Alan mistakenly remembers something - sometimes a person's memory plays tricks on them

I've remembered some things that involve others that the others have told me didn't happen - I really don't know who's right and who's wrong - me or them

I don't know what the big deal is - for me it falls into the so what category

everybody is so intent on proving Alan wrong - who cares?


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The ‘big deal’ for me is that a person who has been involved intricately in gambling his entire life did not immediately recognize the absurdity of the claim. I have been involved only a few times in consecutive yo’s. But I remember one episode distinctly, and even after just TWO in a row we were joking about it. Had we made it to 4 in a row it would have been ALL we were talking about. Had it made it to 6 in a row ALL other thoughts would have stopped.
Try and imagine a baccarat run of 70 straight Bankers. You don’t think after 20 there is not added excitement, etc..? I think 70 straight Bankers is more likely than 18 yo’s, by the way.

Billy hit it on the head. If Alan just said…. ‘You know, I thought I saw those 18 yo’s in a row, but now that I’m aware of the ridiculous improbability of that happening, the most likely result is that I just didn’t remember the event accurately’.
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February 9th, 2022 at 2:28:29 PM permalink
The whole 18 yo's in a row is naught but an exercise in absurdity.

Of course it never happened, how in the hell could it?

Gotta wonder what his motivation was for making such a claim and his state of mind and health at that time

What a legacy, what a thing to be remembered for.

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February 9th, 2022 at 2:55:08 PM permalink
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What a legacy, what a thing to be remembered for.



your comment is totally unjust and unfair and in poor taste -

Alan has had an impressive career as a reporter - try googling him - you will find news stories about him from the labusinessjournal.com and the reviewjournal.com and alamy.com

you want to pass judgement on him based on one thing he has claimed which makes him look bad

I doubt that you or anyone else would want to be judged by just one small thing in their lives that portrays them in a negative way


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February 9th, 2022 at 2:58:59 PM permalink
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What a legacy, what a thing to be remembered for.



your comment is totally unjust and unfair

Alan has had an impressive career as a reporter - try googling him - you will find news stories about him from the labusinessjournal.com and the reviewjournal.com and alamy.com

you want to pass judgement on him based on one thing he has claimed which makes him look bad

I doubt you or anyone else would want to be judged by just one small thing in their lives that portrays them in a negative way


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YOU CONTINUALLY MISS THE POINT! If he made that claim but just later admitted an error, it is not such a big deal. It is the fact that he just won’t admit he made a mistake that is what stands out.
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February 9th, 2022 at 3:02:18 PM permalink
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YOU CONTINUALLY MISS THE POINT!




no, I didn't miss any points
there's nothing at all difficult about trying to comprehend all this
Alan is not young, and has had many health issues
sometimes it's just better to cut older people some slack and not try to bang them into submission - not try to portray them as idiots


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February 9th, 2022 at 4:08:22 PM permalink
I just saw three 23's in a row on a roulette livestream. When the guy is betting 21 different numbers, at what point does he overcome his resistance to bet on #23? Right, he bets on it hoping for a 4th hit in a row and it misses.
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February 9th, 2022 at 4:36:23 PM permalink
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Alan's tale doesn't glorify himself - there is no brag to it - he's just saying he saw it happen



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He was trying to prove a point. IIRC, it was him trying to convey some point about how non DI's can get lucky as well.
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February 9th, 2022 at 4:36:26 PM permalink
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Alan has had an impressive career as a reporter - try googling him - you will find news stories about him from the labusinessjournal.com and the reviewjournal.com and alamy.com



I was and am fully aware of Alan's CV, which makes his claim all the more difficult to understand.

He worked for years as a reporter; he was / is an avid craps player; given these two things I would have expected him to at least recognize that something beyond extraordinary was unfolding before his eyes (if in fact it unfolded as claimed), and to document it.

If he had a cell phone he should have started filming by the fourth or fifth roll ... if it actually happened.

Why didn't he get the names of the pit critters at the table?

Good grief, his claim is so much more newsworthy than Demauro's epic roll in Atlantic City, and he should have jumped all over its significance and trumpeted it to the media: isn't that what reporters do?

Conspicuous by their silence is Casears Palace; had this happened they would most certainly have noticed it and put the word out to the media.

One would think the dealers would have talked about it and someone else would have posted about it on a gambling forum.
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February 9th, 2022 at 4:43:06 PM permalink
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Alan has had an impressive career as a reporter - try googling him - you will find news stories about him from the labusinessjournal.com and the reviewjournal.com and alamy.com



I was and am fully aware of Alan's CV, which makes his claim all the more difficult to understand.

He worked for years as a reporter; he was / is an avid craps player; given these two things I would have expected him to at least recognize that something beyond extraordinary was unfolding before his eyes (if in fact it unfolded as claimed), and to document it.

If he had a cell phone he should have started filming by the fourth or fifth roll ... if it actually happened.

Why didn't he get the names of the pit critters at the table?

Good grief, his claim is so much more newsworthy than Demauro's epic roll in Atlantic City, and he should have jumped all over its significance.

Conspicuous by their silence is Casears Palace; had this happened they would most certainly have noticed it and put the word out to the media.

One would think the dealers would have talked about it and someone else would have posted about it on a gambling forum.
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There just happened to be the only 6-8 people in the world present who didn't think much of it, as if it was just another day at the office.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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February 9th, 2022 at 6:20:04 PM permalink
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This far exceeds any tale MDawg ever came up with, not even close.



What about his claim he won 60 hands of BJ in a row?
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February 9th, 2022 at 8:20:31 PM permalink
Here's a link to the earliest forum discussion I found about the 18 yo's in a row for those who need to "get up to speed."

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/24711-18-yos-in-a-row-split-off/#post507828

I could not find the original post Alan made announcing his sighting: link?
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February 10th, 2022 at 2:14:35 AM permalink
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Here's a link to the earliest forum discussion I found about the 18 yo's in a row for those who need to "get up to speed."

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/craps/24711-18-yos-in-a-row-split-off/#post507828

I could not find the original post Alan made announcing his sighting: link?
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I don't know quite how this discussion of the suspension list got hijacked into a thread discussing unlikely events (I seem to recall Wizard himself started the hijack)
But can we get back on track, please.
MrV has given the link to the 18 yous thread and here's one for the 60 Hands thread
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/big-wins/36485-60-winning-hands-in-a-row/

Read them at your leisure. I think I even saw a comparison of the probabilities... Here, have this to be going on with...

Let's assume probability of losing a hand is 50%,
Then I estimate that night's 60 won hands in a row was roughly a 1 in 1.15292150461e+18 event

1 in 1,150,000,000.000.000,000 give or take a bit.

and for 18 yos in a row...
1 in (1/18)^18
1 in 3.93464080754e+22

So, yes. 60 winning hands pales into insignificance compared to 18 Yos in a row.

[End of thread hijack]
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February 10th, 2022 at 4:41:02 AM permalink
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Agreement with the Axel. How many real craps players would not jump on this? How long to table Max? Say 8-10. Per player $15,000 per Yo (CP assuming $1K max bet) Maybe $150K assuming 10 bets at table max. Front page local news just like grandma and her craps roll in AC. And a ton more TV coverage.

And no one talked.

No one betting is just as unbelievable.

This far exceeds any tale MDawg ever came up with, not even close.
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Okay so you still want to talk about it. I'm okay with that as long as everyone understands I wasn't the shooter and just stood there and never made a bet -- like the shooter and his buddy.

So I'm not a real craps player? And a real craps bettor would have parlayed this to millions of dollars?

Let's think about this.

First of all betting any horn number is a bad bet. Ploppies make center table bets and the horn numbers are worse than hardways. Need I go into detail?

Hindsight is 20/20. But get real... who among you would really bet a yo after seeing a yo?

Yesterday I threw 12 three times in a row at a packed $10 table at Red Rock. No one bet even a dollar on 12.

Yesterday a shooter at my packed table threw the ALL. He and I were the only players betting the Bonus. He had $3 on each position, I had $5 on each position.

Stuff happens in casinos.

I reported this before. The grandma's record in Atlantic City was BROKEN at Caesars Palace by a guy in for an electronics convention. Only he and his buddy were on the table. Caesars never publicized it. His hand went four and a half hours. The two of them were making minimal passline bets.

Stuff happens in casinos. And I wrote about that before on this forum.

I also wrote about the guy who had a million dollar winning roll at Caesars. When I asked Caesars for a comment for an article I was writing (I was there when it happened) an exec said things like that happen all the time. I'm sure MrV can find the original thread. He's been hounding me for 20+ years on the web going back to rec.gambling.craps days.

But let's get back to the yos. Do you bet one after seeing one? Do you bet one after seeing two? Do you bet one after seeing three?

Like I said... no one bet even a dollar when I threw 3 midnights in a row yesterday. Not a dollar.

Stuff happens.
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February 10th, 2022 at 5:59:32 AM permalink
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What a legacy, what a thing to be remembered for.



your comment is totally unjust and unfair

Alan has had an impressive career as a reporter - try googling him - you will find news stories about him from the labusinessjournal.com and the reviewjournal.com and alamy.com

you want to pass judgement on him based on one thing he has claimed which makes him look bad

I doubt you or anyone else would want to be judged by just one small thing in their lives that portrays them in a negative way


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YOU CONTINUALLY MISS THE POINT! If he made that claim but just later admitted an error, it is not such a big deal. It is the fact that he just won’t admit he made a mistake that is what stands out.
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Maybe he didn't make a mistake. Long odds do come in once in a while.
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February 10th, 2022 at 6:14:59 AM permalink
I was playing a Shufflemaster Craps machine, years ago at RW in Queens, and saw the Horn win 14 times in a row. During that run, the 'shooter' on the button, didn't make a single horn bet.

A week later, all the Shufflemaster Craps machines in the state were removed, after a couple won $100K on that same machine, after finding a glitch.

Prior to that, I saw the 7 roll seven times in a row twice within one hour, on two different Interblock Bubble Craps machines at RW. On another occasion, I saw the 12 roll five times in a row on one of those machines.

Most likely a mechanical issue. I've never seen anything close to that, since.

After seeing the eleven roll three times in a row at a Mohegan Sun table, I asked the long time dealer, what was the most consecutive yo's he ever saw. The shooter still had the dice. Not speaking, the dealer held up seven fingers.

No thinking, I responded, "Seven?"

He cringed and shook his head. "Yeah, I didn't want to say the word."

The shooter rolled a few more times after that.
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February 10th, 2022 at 6:25:13 AM permalink
My friend got picked up from public intoxication during a picnic in a park forty years ago. The cops told us he wasn't under arrest but was going to be held for eight hours for his own protection. When we went to pick him up eight hours later, he comes out all happy and claims he was in the same cell as Evil Knevel. We properly mock him and go out to breakfast. He keeps talking about how he and Evil hit it off and talked bikes, and compared scars and the like. The more we ridiculed him, the more vehement he grew. At one point, he got really pissed and ended up walking out of the diner and leaving us there.
That night, one of the main stories on the news was the arrest of Evil Knevel on a DWI charge the night before.
Improbable stuff happens on a regular basis, and impossible stuff happens slightly less frequently.
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February 10th, 2022 at 7:18:50 AM permalink
I ask, under penalty of suspension, that any more posts about Alan's 18 yo's be placed in the 18 yo's thread.
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February 10th, 2022 at 11:45:48 AM permalink
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The whole 18 yo's in a row is naught but an exercise in absurdity.

Of course it never happened, how in the hell could it?



How about a 240 mile long tornado? Talk about absurdity. That could never happen; how the heck could it??

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February 10th, 2022 at 11:55:08 AM permalink
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How about a 240 mile long tornado? Talk about absurdity. That could never happen; how the heck could it??
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Final warning -- no more posts relating to Alan's 18 yo's in this thread.
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February 12th, 2022 at 2:49:47 PM permalink
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Quote: tuttigym

How about a 240 mile long tornado? Talk about absurdity. That could never happen; how the heck could it??
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Final warning -- no more posts relating to Alan's 18 yo's in this thread.
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Another lawsuit threatened like MDawg did?
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February 23rd, 2022 at 2:19:46 AM permalink
FYI
This morning UK time, I arrived to find that the Ex member BOZ had resurfaced under a new ID 'RealDog' and had posted into the thread 'Adventures of MDawg'
Though another moderator had nuked this new user, a long thread of conversation was left in that thread, where 'RealDog' was quoted multiple times.
Normally, the posts of a sock or returning ex-member would simply be deleted as per rule 16. However, since he had been copiously quoted in posts by Soopoo and Coachbelly, I have felt it necessary to edit their posts to redact the Realdog quoted elements. Since Soopoo and Coachbelly are members in good standing, I felt it inappropriate to delete their posts entirely, nor to redact their own text. I realise that this has left some mess in the thread, but this is a balance between removing the content of an ex-member while respecting and not editing the content of current members.
I'm about to PM Coachbelly and Soopoo to bring this explanation to their attention.
Meanwhile, I remind all members that quoting banned members is against the spirit of rule 16 and your post might be removed or redacted without warning.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 4:11:18 AM permalink
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FYI
This morning UK time, I arrived to find that the Ex member BOZ had resurfaced under a new ID 'RealDog' and had posted into the thread 'Adventures of MDawg'
Though another moderator had nuked this new user, a long thread of conversation was left in that thread, where 'RealDog' was quoted multiple times.
Normally, the posts of a sock or returning ex-member would simply be deleted as per rule 16. However, since he had been copiously quoted in posts by Soopoo and Coachbelly, I have felt it necessary to edit their posts to redact the Realdog quoted elements. Since Soopoo and Coachbelly are members in good standing, I felt it inappropriate to delete their posts entirely, nor to redact their own text. I realise that this has left some mess in the thread, but this is a balance between removing the content of an ex-member while respecting and not editing the content of current members.
I'm about to PM Coachbelly and Soopoo to bring this explanation to their attention.
Meanwhile, I remind all members that quoting banned members is against the spirit of rule 16 and your post might be removed or redacted without warning.
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Ok.
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February 23rd, 2022 at 6:03:11 PM permalink
May we presume "truth Spoken" is ...?
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February 24th, 2022 at 1:40:59 AM permalink
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May we presume "truth Spoken" is ...?
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That's not a safe assumption. There are other contenders.
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February 24th, 2022 at 6:42:53 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

FYI
This morning UK time, I arrived to find that the Ex member BOZ had resurfaced under a new ID 'RealDog' and had posted into the thread 'Adventures of MDawg'
Though another moderator had nuked this new user, a long thread of conversation was left in that thread, where 'RealDog' was quoted multiple times.
Normally, the posts of a sock or returning ex-member would simply be deleted as per rule 16. However, since he had been copiously quoted in posts by Soopoo and Coachbelly, I have felt it necessary to edit their posts to redact the Realdog quoted elements. Since Soopoo and Coachbelly are members in good standing, I felt it inappropriate to delete their posts entirely, nor to redact their own text. I realise that this has left some mess in the thread, but this is a balance between removing the content of an ex-member while respecting and not editing the content of current members.
I'm about to PM Coachbelly and Soopoo to bring this explanation to their attention.
Meanwhile, I remind all members that quoting banned members is against the spirit of rule 16 and your post might be removed or redacted without warning.
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Can someone explain why someone thats been banned for a long time keeps trying to come back knowing he'll get banned again almost instantly?
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February 24th, 2022 at 7:02:10 AM permalink
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noun: sociopath; plural noun: sociopaths

a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
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February 24th, 2022 at 7:18:44 AM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear

FYI
This morning UK time, I arrived to find that the Ex member BOZ had resurfaced under a new ID 'RealDog' and had posted into the thread 'Adventures of MDawg'
Though another moderator had nuked this new user, a long thread of conversation was left in that thread, where 'RealDog' was quoted multiple times.
Normally, the posts of a sock or returning ex-member would simply be deleted as per rule 16. However, since he had been copiously quoted in posts by Soopoo and Coachbelly, I have felt it necessary to edit their posts to redact the Realdog quoted elements. Since Soopoo and Coachbelly are members in good standing, I felt it inappropriate to delete their posts entirely, nor to redact their own text. I realise that this has left some mess in the thread, but this is a balance between removing the content of an ex-member while respecting and not editing the content of current members.
I'm about to PM Coachbelly and Soopoo to bring this explanation to their attention.
Meanwhile, I remind all members that quoting banned members is against the spirit of rule 16 and your post might be removed or redacted without warning.
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Can someone explain why someone thats been banned for a long time keeps trying to come back knowing he'll get banned again almost instantly?
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Pretty easy. He or she is posting for the same reason you and I do. To make a point. To spur agreement or dissent. To congratulate or insult. The permanency of your account does not impact those motives. Additionally, you and I care about our accounts AND the perceptions of us as people. So we post (at least try) in a civil manner. Those expecting to be nuked have no such constraints. There are times I’m a little jealous….
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February 24th, 2022 at 9:54:02 AM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear

FYI
This morning UK time, I arrived to find that the Ex member BOZ had resurfaced under a new ID 'RealDog' and had posted into the thread 'Adventures of MDawg'
Though another moderator had nuked this new user, a long thread of conversation was left in that thread, where 'RealDog' was quoted multiple times.
Normally, the posts of a sock or returning ex-member would simply be deleted as per rule 16. However, since he had been copiously quoted in posts by Soopoo and Coachbelly, I have felt it necessary to edit their posts to redact the Realdog quoted elements. Since Soopoo and Coachbelly are members in good standing, I felt it inappropriate to delete their posts entirely, nor to redact their own text. I realise that this has left some mess in the thread, but this is a balance between removing the content of an ex-member while respecting and not editing the content of current members.
I'm about to PM Coachbelly and Soopoo to bring this explanation to their attention.
Meanwhile, I remind all members that quoting banned members is against the spirit of rule 16 and your post might be removed or redacted without warning.
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Can someone explain why someone thats been banned for a long time keeps trying to come back knowing he'll get banned again almost instantly?
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In Boz’s case, he’s just an extremely unhappy person with too much time on his hands.
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February 24th, 2022 at 10:13:41 AM permalink
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Quote: 100xOdds

Quote: OnceDear

FYI
This morning UK time, I arrived to find that the Ex member BOZ had resurfaced under a new ID 'RealDog' and had posted into the thread 'Adventures of MDawg'
Though another moderator had nuked this new user, a long thread of conversation was left in that thread, where 'RealDog' was quoted multiple times.
Normally, the posts of a sock or returning ex-member would simply be deleted as per rule 16. However, since he had been copiously quoted in posts by Soopoo and Coachbelly, I have felt it necessary to edit their posts to redact the Realdog quoted elements. Since Soopoo and Coachbelly are members in good standing, I felt it inappropriate to delete their posts entirely, nor to redact their own text. I realise that this has left some mess in the thread, but this is a balance between removing the content of an ex-member while respecting and not editing the content of current members.
I'm about to PM Coachbelly and Soopoo to bring this explanation to their attention.
Meanwhile, I remind all members that quoting banned members is against the spirit of rule 16 and your post might be removed or redacted without warning.
link to original post

Can someone explain why someone thats been banned for a long time keeps trying to come back knowing he'll get banned again almost instantly?
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In Boz’s case, he’s just an extremely unhappy person with too much time on his hands.
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You just made the list.
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February 24th, 2022 at 10:18:46 AM permalink
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so·ci·o·path
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noun: sociopath; plural noun: sociopaths

a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.
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A/k/a. HiA syndrome. 🤔
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May 11th, 2022 at 11:10:05 AM permalink
Note.
Wizard has been suspended for three days with the suggested extra penalty of re-reading the Two Dice threads completely.
His offense was effectively insulting Alan Mendelson and concurrently trolling or bullying him.
The penalty was set by me and accepted by Wizard in good grace.

Wizard will still appear in green and will technically retain all his posting powers, but is honor bound to abide by the suspension or appeal it. He may still use his moderating powers as appropriate
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May 14th, 2022 at 1:30:52 AM permalink
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Note.
Wizard has been suspended for three days with the suggested extra penalty of re-reading the Two Dice threads completely.
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Welcome Back, Wizard. And I acknowledge that it was too harsh to expect you to read all of that thread. $;o)
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May 22nd, 2022 at 11:12:23 AM permalink
KewlJ and MDawg have repeatedly been warned about feuding.

Today, KewlJ took a pop without naming MDawg, MDawg was less guarded in his follow-up. I suspended them with penalty to be confirmed.

If either of them think feuding here is acceptable, then they are mistaken. I've lost track of how often they have been warned.

Because of my own history with those members, I have deferred to my fellow moderators to set the penalty.

There's no rush.
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May 22nd, 2022 at 11:25:18 AM permalink
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May 22nd, 2022 at 11:35:23 AM permalink
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Quote: OnceDear

KJewl

Who is KJewl?
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May 22nd, 2022 at 11:39:09 AM permalink
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KJewl and MDawg have repeatedly been warned about feuding.

Today, KJewl took a pop without naming MDawg, MDawg was less guarded in his follow-up. I suspended them with penalty to be confirmed.

If either of them think feuding here is acceptable, then they are mistaken. I've lost track of how often they have been warned.

Because of my own history with those members, I have deferred to my fellow moderators to set the penalty.

There's no rush.
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I don't think they should have been allowed to derail the thread about my recent epiphany.
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