Discussion II about the Suspension List
Quote: darkozI dont like that Darkov guy who is very arrogant.
But as for myself, DarkoZ, it has been 2 suspensions in like 9 years so pretty good I think
Isn't Darkov your evil twin Russian brother?
How embarrassing it must be for you Boz to be losing to Zenking. What is they say about coming in second place? First _____. 🤣🤣🤣Quote: MDawgI looked at this one
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165
only.
Adding these two
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/30764-suspension-list-archive-2/#post644844
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/21601-suspension-list-archive/
as well, we arrive at:
PokerGrinder now has three suspensions.
Axelwolf four. (not counting one in which he volunteered to do the time for someone else)
MaxPen four.
terapined four.
SOOPOO three.
romes three.
DarkOv three.
rxwine three.
TomG two.
kubikulann five!
ams288 six!
EvenBob seven!
BillRyan - nine!
WatchMeWin - eleven!
Boz - fifteen!
ZenKinG- sixteen!
The last seven show a blatant disregard for the rules with 5 - 16 infractions each.
Maybe they're bus buddies.🚌_ _ _🏃♀️🏃♂️Quote: RSIsn't Darkov your evil twin Russian brother?
Quote: AxelWolfMaybe they're bus buddies.🚌_ _ _🏃♀️🏃♂️
He might be that ghostly reflection I see when looking out the window while going thru tunnels.
He isnt quite all there
Quote: darkozHe might be that ghostly reflection I see when looking out the window while going thru tunnels.
He isnt quite all there
Very Antigonish.
The Omnibus
Quote: MDawgBuzzard (various incarnations) - fourteen!!
I am not sure we have an accurate record on our friend Buzz...I don't know if the mods had time to record every visit he's made since the bomb dropped on him.
Quote: MDawg
ZenKinG- sixteen!
The last four show a blatant disregard for the rules with 9 - 16 infractions each.
I thought ZK was permanently banned like a month or two ago...
Quote: TigerWuI thought ZK was permanently banned like a month or two ago...
He was given a minimum 90-day self-resignation. He has served his time and may return upon request.
Quote: darkozHe might be that ghostly reflection I see when looking out the window while going thru tunnels.
He isnt quite all there
You should come to Bisbee. Our town motto is- Bisbee, we are all here because we aren't all there.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/21601-suspension-list-archive/
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/30764-suspension-list-archive-2/#post644844
we arrive at an updated:
(those with one suspension only are not mentioned, there are a number of these among our current active members with just one suspension)
PokerGrinder now has three suspensions.
HotBlonde four.
Axelwolf four. (not counting one in which he volunteered to do the time for someone else)
MaxPen four.
terapined four.
wizardofnothing (various incarnations) four.
gr8player four.
Beethoven9th / Beethoven3rd four.
Nareed four.
aceofspades four.
777 four.
mrjjj three.
Maverick17 three.
Keyser three.
soxfan three.
lojo/lojo1 three.
mkl654321 three.
SOOPOO three.
romes three.
DarkOv three.
rxwine three.
tournamentking three.
laymedown three.
ibeatyouraces three.
soxfan three.
mcallister3200 two.
TomG two.
TigerWu two.
CrystalMath two.
paigow1986 two.
juiciejennie two.
madz two.
RicardoEsteban two.
kubikulann - five!
ams288 - six!
EvenBob - seven!
mickeycrimm - eight!
BillRyan - nine!
Nathan (various incarnations) - nine!
WatchMeWin - eleven!
JerryLogan (including in his various incarnations) - twelve!
ahigh - thirteen!
Buzzard (various incarnations) - fourteen!
Boz - fifteen!
ZenKinG - sixteen!
#8 on the list, with a "!", no less.
Top of the world, Ma!!!!!!!!
Quote: TigerWuI'm seriously amazed at some of the names that are NOT on that list. Some people are just good at getting away with stuff, I guess...
The rules are really not that difficult to follow
Quote: michael99000The rules are really not that difficult to follow
I know. I was just saying there are people that do not follow the rules that haven't been banned.
Over 5000 posts without being rude enough, I will try harder.
Quote: DRichOver 5000 posts without being rude enough, I will try harder.
Just drop an f-bomb or try to sell a roulette system.
Quote: TigerWuJust drop an f-bomb or try to sell a roulette system.
I will never share my winning roullette system.
I’ve PM’d you.Quote: DRichI will never share my winning roullette system.
It's nice to start your morning off with a little laugh and smile.Quote: DRichI will never share my winning roullette system.
Quote: DRichI will never share my winning roullette system.
I'm giving mine away:
1) Always bet with the streak.
You're welcome, guys.
I'm sure he's here in spiritQuote: RonCI am not sure we have an accurate record on our friend Buzz...I don't know if the mods had time to record every visit he's made since the bomb dropped on him.
$:o|
Quote: DRichI feel like I haven't earned my bones here yet. Until I get a suspension I guess I am a nobody. It'slike when you start card counting, you almost want that first backoff just to prove that you are counting and playing at a level that the casino is worried about.
Over 5000 posts without being rude enough, I will try harder.
I also do not have one. I have typed at least 50 posts that were ban worthy but deleted them before sending.
You know what they say. Whenever you type something you should pause before you send.
Just today I had one that I decided against.
Quote: MDawgRegarding Kubla Khan , I'm as opinionated as they come but not arrogant - arrogance stems from insecurity. In any case, anyone who can't follow the rules and keeps getting suspended should get the boot - permanently. Most all of these repeat offenders should have been booted long ago, anyone who has suffered five or more suspensions short or long can't program and is not worth the babysitting.
I have been mulling over your "opinionated" comments, follow-up and complaints for a day or so, because I found them highly offensive.
One thing this forum does NOT need is a self-appointed and unsolicited Sergeant-At-Arms.
We are not babysitters, and the people who participate here are not children.
You are taking the Suspension List completely out of context, drawing unwarranted and incorrect conclusions about many people, and inciting anger and disdain by passing facile judgment on patently unequal events and time intervals of occurrence.
It's a speadsheet. A snapshot record. A tool. Not a complete record of any particular member's participation or transgression(s).
Also, you need to stop taking umbrage at every remark. You provoke everyone with dozens of baccarat system claims over months that flaunt mathematical reality, scorn those who challenge your assertions (but you offer no mathematical proof of their soundness in refutation), and you blithely ignore any facts that do not fit your (mistaken) premises.
In general, claims of prowess and superiority without offering mathematical proof, comes off as arrogance to the math-skilled here. They see a lot of it, and you have followed the usual arc of posting system nonsense, being challenged on your assertions with facts and math, and maintaining your claims despite the information offered you.
In the context of this forum and its primary focus on debunking Gambler's Fallacy, Martingale, and other fallacious systems, and our promoting educated and strategic gaming choices instead, how can you be surprised your Gambler's Fallacy dependence on streaks and meaningless patterns, adherence to baccarat superstitions about who's betting how much on a particular hand and other stuff, and repeated refusal to comprehend or acknowledge any evidence to the contrary, might be considered arrogance?
One week suspension for insults to the "babies" (members) and, by implication, the moderators. When you return, I highly recommend you keep your opinions about your fellow members and the criticism (that we "should have booted these people long ago...etc") of the moderation of this forum to yourself.
Quote: DRichI feel like I haven't earned my bones here yet. Until I get a suspension I guess I am a nobody. It'slike when you start card counting, you almost want that first backoff just to prove that you are counting and playing at a level that the casino is worried about.
Over 5000 posts without being rude enough, I will try harder.
You wanted your first back off?
There are so many here on the suspension list. Someone told me that card counters are "jerks." Maybe, he has a point.
https://wizardofvegas.com/member/joseph.crea/blog/
Quote: beachbumbabs
One week suspension for insults to the "babies" (members) and, by implication, the moderators. When you return, I highly recommend you keep your opinions about your fellow members and the criticism (that we "should have booted these people long ago...etc") of the moderation of this forum to yourself.
Ooh, dang...
When he comes back I wonder if he'll put himself on the list...??
Quote: beachbumbabsIn case anyone is unfamiliar with MDawg's baccarat assertions, his multiple comments in the blog below are a good snapshot of his GF approach and how he refutes others about it, though hardly the only example available among many other posts:
https://wizardofvegas.com/member/joseph.crea/blog/
I was under the assumption everyone here realizes his posts are complete nonsense and looks at it as entertainment and amusement.
No challenge to show proof in the presence of another forum member will ever be accepted. It would end the whole ruse.
Quote: DRichI will never share my winning roullette system.
That makes at least two people here (well, one who won't be here for a while...) that won't give up there winning Roulette system...LOL
Quote: RonCThat makes at least two people here (well, one who won't be here for a while...) that won't give up there winning Roulette system...LOL
Since EB isn’t able to, I’ll say it for him..
ITS NOT A SYSTEM, ITS A STRATEGY !!
And you wonder why you're not in the cool kids club.Quote: GWAEI also do not have one.
WRONG!!!Quote: michael99000Since EB isn’t able to, I’ll say it for him..
ITS NOT A SYSTEM, ITS A STRATEGY !!
He claims it's a METHOD.
I think Bob picked up on the fact that the word system is a dirty word that shysters, crackpots and voodoo People use and generally disregarded as b******* , such as hit-and-run systems, hot numbers/cold numbers, hot Shooters/cold shooters, streaks, bet selection , dueness theories, Martingale etc that are applied to -EV games.
I think there was even a thread discussing the difference between what system players do an advantage players do.
Somewhere at point, perhaps it was even Mike that used the word method to describe a legitimate way of winning that can be proven mathematically.
So now Bob claims his system(and yes, it's a system) is a method.
I bet you if you go back far enough you will find that Bob himself referred to his very own system as a system.
Quote: AxelWolfWRONG!!!
He claims it's a METHOD.
I think Bob picked up on the fact that the word system is a dirty word that shysters, crackpots and voodoo People use and generally disregarded as b******* , such as hit-and-run systems, hot numbers/cold numbers, hot Shooters/cold shooters, streaks, bet selection , dueness theories, Martingale etc that are applied to -EV games.
I think there was even a thread discussing the difference between what system players do an advantage players do.
Somewhere at point, perhaps it was even Mike that used the word method to describe a legitimate way of winning that can be proven mathematically.
So now Bob claims his system(and yes, it's a system) is a method.
I bet you if you go back far enough you will find that Bob himself referred to his very own system as a system.
I think the word system implies that if you follow a certain way of betting and playing that game, that just by nature of doing it correctly you’ll come out ahead in the long run.
And a method is a way of playing that you find to be more enjoyable and entertaining than flat betting. You may or may not win but you stick to that way regardless because you feel better doing it.
And a strategy is a way of playing that you (wrongly) feel can beat the house edge. See any MDawg post for good examples of this. Riding streaks, pressing bets when up, walking away when you reach a certain plus amount , etc etc
Oh yes, I think we have all noticed that. I see that MD conveniently suggested he would like the Wizard and some others to watch him play. Of course, this was AFTER MD's trip to Las Vegas. I also noticed he didn't follow up on soopoo's inquiry about the meeting up so soopoo could watch him play. MD basically just said he never had an issue with him. There was never any talk about actually meeting up.Quote: michael99000. See any MDawg post for good examples of this. Riding streaks, pressing bets when up, walking away when you reach a certain plus amount , etc etc
If I was somebody just blowing smoke up people's asses, I too would conveniently mention I wanted to meet up with people AFTER my trip was over. I too would avoid making any plans with soopoo for a meet up, because you better believe soopoo would in fact follow through and report accurately. Unless of course, if soopoo reported everything MD was saying was true I would just have to assume he bought soopoo off .
Quote: michael99000I was under the assumption everyone here realizes his posts are complete nonsense and looks at it as entertainment and amusement.
No challenge to show proof in the presence of another forum member will ever be accepted. It would end the whole ruse.
I believe he has mentioned several times that he would gladly meet up with forum members to play bacc. At the very least it would prove (or disprove) his high roller status.
Except on the rare occasion where there was a problem/mixup with the bank, or you just happened to miss the worst losing streak ever where he lost tens of thousands of dollars betting while thousands per hand and now only has enough to redchip.Quote: TigerWuI believe he has mentioned several times that he would gladly meet up with forum members to play bacc. At the very least it would prove (or disprove) his high roller status.
Quote: TigerWuI believe he has mentioned several times that he would gladly meet up with forum members to play bacc. At the very least it would prove (or disprove) his high roller status.
How much time , or for how many hands, do you have to watch someone play baccarat in order to determine if they are a winning or losing player ?
It would be pointless for anyone to meet him and watch him play in person. If he loses he’ll blame it on something else , or just claim it’s a rare losing session. If he wins he’ll claim it’s proof he’s a long term winner. There’s no scenario that would compel him to say “you guys are right”
Can I ask why that liberal dude Michael “Bluejay” is allowed to push such a biased garbage shit website on here?
Asking for leniency here so I can claim the record after my suspension.
Quote: BozCan I ask why that liberal dude Michael “Bluejay” is allowed to push such a biased garbage shit website on here?
Asking for leniency here so I can claim the record after my suspension.
Leniency denied. Normally, I would give a week for the personal insult and profanity, but I'm going to double it under the Martingale policy.
Do you know who Beck is?Quote: BozThis is BS Axel. Obviously I deserve the record.
Can I ask why that liberal dude Michael “Bluejay” is allowed to push such a biased garbage shit website on here?
Asking for leniency here so I can claim the record after my suspension.
I believe a suspension would only make you tied with the King. Even then, you had to fake it to make it.
I'm not sure how you could possibly top threatening to shoot up casinos and get reported to the feds by multiple members.
Quote: AxelWolfDo you know who Beck is?
I believe a suspension would only make you tied with the King. Even then, you had to fake it to make it.
I'm a loser? Brings back memories of middle school... not the loser part... the song obviosuly.
Middle School?? I didn't realize you were that young.Quote: GWAEI'm a loser? Brings back memories of middle school... not the loser part... the song obviosuly.
Quote: WizardLeniency denied. Normally, I would give a week for the personal insult and profanity, but I'm going to double it under the Martingale policy.
This is suspension 16. 3*2^15=98304. 14 is...less than that:-)
Quote: AxelWolfMiddle School?? I didn't realize you were that young.
When did it come out.. 94? Inwas born 80
ETA just looked it up, it was 94. What a guess. Funny that i can link songs to who I was friends with. I remember listening to that at Julie's house.
Quote: michael99000How much time , or for how many hands, do you have to watch someone play baccarat in order to determine if they are a winning or losing player ?
It would be pointless for anyone to meet him and watch him play in person. If he loses he’ll blame it on something else , or just claim it’s a rare losing session. If he wins he’ll claim it’s proof he’s a long term winner. There’s no scenario that would compel him to say “you guys are right”
Yeah, but a lot of people here are even doubting he's playing at the level he claims, i.e., thousands of dollars a hand.
At the very least, sitting down with him for a little bit would confirm or deny if he is able to support that level of play. No one is going to take tens of thousands of dollars to the bacc tables and risk it just to pretend to be a high roller for a bunch of strangers on the internet.
I'm not trying to defend any of his "systems." I think they're BS as much as y'all do. But it sounds like he's willing to put his money where his mouth is (literally and figuratively) and at least attempt to prove some of his claims in person, the least of which would be his supposed high roller status.
I know people love their job, their kids and family blah blah blah.Quote: TigerWuYeah, but a lot of people here are even doubting he's playing at the level he claims, i.e., thousands of dollars a hand.
At the very least, sitting down with him for a little bit would confirm or deny if he is able to support that level of play. No one is going to take tens of thousands of dollars to the bacc tables and risk it just to pretend to be a high roller for a bunch of strangers on the internet.
I'm not trying to defend any of his "systems." I think they're BS as much as y'all do. But it sounds like he's willing to put his money where his mouth is (literally and figuratively) and at least attempt to prove some of his claims in person, the least of which would be his supposed high roller status.
But, you would think if somebody had the ability to bet thousands of dollars a hand on Baccarat and always win that they would be putting a significant amount of time in raping the casinos. Especially since it's a situation where you have access 24/7 365 to a money printing press just about anywhere in the world and you can scale up as high as you would like with practically no heat whatsoever.
That goes for people who have winning roulette systems or whatever as well.
These Master System players are not very nice, I might even go so far as to call them greedy. They have the golden keys to the casinos where they can just plop down practically anywhere and start cranking out the big bucks, meanwhile poor Nathan is riding the bus to Walgreens scraping out a living, and guys like fleastiff are depended on Meals on Wheels. Master System players please share the wealth with your fellow forum brethren. #beaphilanthropist.
Quote: JoemanIt looks like Babs busted MDawg yesterday, but I don't see him on the Suspension List.
Sometimes the mods don’t get around to updating the list right away.
