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October 20th, 2019 at 2:46:26 AM permalink
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I have been suspended 14 days, end date Oct 13.
Only today Oct 20 am I finally given access again.

There is no channel through which you can present your defense, contest an unjust decision, appeal to other mods, signal these types of errors, make yourself heard once you are suspended.
This all creates a justice problem.

I apologise for that on behalf of my fellow moderators.
But that did not give you a right to insult the forum management in the BBB Birthday thread. For that you probably earned a 28 day suspension, but I'm going to be very lenient and take that offence to be covered by time served in error.
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October 20th, 2019 at 2:50:50 AM permalink
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This is typical of totalitarian dictatures. Savonarola Florence. French Revolutionary Tribunal. Nazis. Stalinian Soviet Union. Big Brother.

  • Law sufficiently unclear that anything can be brought against anyone. The aim is to get people to fear the authorities.(*)
  • Arbitrariness rules. Some major infractions get looked over, some inexistant infractions are sued.
  • The accuser is the judge. No discharge inquiry.
  • Facts do not matter. It is all in the judge‘s subjective appreciation. « If I call you that, do you feel insulted? »
  • The accused person’s intention is not investigated. The judge knows better what your intention was.
  • The supposedly insulted person has no say in the matter. Only the judge ‘’knows better’’.
  • Suspect = accused = condemned without hearing. No defense rights. No innocence.
  • Only one sanction.
  • No jury, no appeal. You depend on the whim of one judge, even if all others would have stated differently. If asked, they never dare contest their colleague’s decision.
  • When accused (=condemned), you are put under secrecy - no way to call for justice.
  • Sentence duration arbitrarily prolonged. They don’t even respect their own so-called Martingale rule, already ludicrously unright..


(*) For instance, my use of the word ’totalitarian’ could be construed as an insult. My criticism of the judicial system could be construed as ‘personal’ insult to its creator. This is how you forbid unwanted free speech.

Quote: OnceDear

I see from the suspension thread that you were released late, so I apologise for that. However this post of yours was an insult to wizard and the moderators here, so it has earned you another suspension. Let extra time served cancel out what's due now.
This forum is not a democracy: It's a benevolent dictatorship. We are all guests here with zero rights beyond what the operators may grant from time to time.
Now all. If you wish to debate the rights and wrongs of suspensions, take it to the appropriate thread. Doing so here has become a thread hijack.

See?

Just EXACTLY what I denounced.
Inventing new infractions. Making personal something that is clearly general and does not bring any person. A SYSTEM is criticized. It’s operators are not in the least attacked personally, let alone insulted.

Curiously, he punishes me for calling it a disctatorship, then proceeds to confess it is one. Go figure.

I must contest the word ‘benevolent’. Once in their target sights, you deserve no benevolence. If I write a piece about the Kelly criterion, they will find it insults personally every unnamed person that uses it, or they will judge it is blasphemous, and use the martingale to kick me out.

I prefer to shake the dust off my soles. I have absolutely no intention to put myself at the mercy of dictatorial operators, with zero rights. That’s my personal 2d amendment.
Your loss.
Goodbye.
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October 20th, 2019 at 2:55:53 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

I prefer to shake the dust off my soles. I have absolutely no intention to put myself at the mercy of dictatorial operators, with zero rights.
Your loss.
Goodbye.

Goodbye.
Psalm 25:16 Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted. Proverbs 18:2 A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
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October 20th, 2019 at 3:09:23 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Goodbye.

I was not talking to you. I was addressing the democrats. (You confessed yourself not being one, in your moderator persona, which is whom I address here. This cannot be an insult, can it? Well... anything can be expected from your kind.)

Please notice banishment is a sentence reinvented by the Terror Revolutionaries. Later used by Napoleon III, by the Nazis — never existed in modern democracies. It expresses the will of purity in the social group, some kind of ‘moral’ cleansing. If you criticize the government, you are not part of the People!
Ancient Athenians or Romans preferred voluntary exile : Cicero, Themistocles, Scipio,... Good company. Sometimes they were triumphally welcomed back, when the tyrant was deposed.
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October 20th, 2019 at 3:30:37 AM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Will you be ok? It must be devestating not being able to post to a forum for an extra 7 days.

Didn.t care a bit, no interesting thread anyway.

But I’m HP. One of the characteristics is an absolute need for justice. All my life I have denounced unjust situations. On principle.
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October 20th, 2019 at 4:09:42 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Didn.t care a bit, no interesting thread anyway.

But I’m HP. One of the characteristics is an absolute need for justice. All my life I have denounced unjust situations. On principle.

Welcome back :)
What's 'HP' in this context?
https://www.internetslang.com/HP-meaning-definition.asp ? 'Harry Potter' just doesn't seem to fit.... Well, maybe it does?
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October 20th, 2019 at 6:28:06 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Welcome back :)
What's 'HP' in this context?
https://www.internetslang.com/HP-meaning-definition.asp ? 'Harry Potter' just doesn't seem to fit.... Well, maybe it does?



I'm assuming histrionic personality.
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October 20th, 2019 at 6:54:37 AM permalink
Talk about tempests in teapots.

I saw the thread at Diversity Tomorrow and I refrained from posting in it because of the thread's creator.

EvenBob could have said "pointedly" rather than "rudely' but in reality he really should not have raised the issue at all.

This is, perhaps, what happens to 'line skaters' .

The main thing to remember is that whether you term it a Democracy or a Tyranny, this entire forum would not exist but for the long hard (unpaid) work of BBB. Oh yes, there are other Green Inkers and their efforts are appreciated, but lets face it, the greatest burden was shouldered by BBB.
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October 20th, 2019 at 7:24:28 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

Welcome back :)
What's 'HP' in this context?
https://www.internetslang.com/HP-meaning-definition.asp ? 'Harry Potter' just doesn't seem to fit.... Well, maybe it does?



Hyper Political?


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October 20th, 2019 at 7:34:31 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Goodbye.



Goodbye. I think OD forgot to click "ban," so I will. While a nuking would be easily justified, I'll be nice and file this as a permanent resignation.

I wish you well, elsewhere.
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October 20th, 2019 at 7:36:15 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Goodbye. I think OD forgot to click "ban," so I will. While a nuking would be easily justified, I'll file this as a permanent resignation.

I wish you well, elsewhere.

Shame. He was very value add on math and gambling problems.
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October 20th, 2019 at 7:56:48 AM permalink
Maybe but he also made posts claiming that there is no such thing as a good or bad shoe of cards, which is absurd.


Getting back to the topic at hand, you just see the SAME characters taking turns getting suspended. Some men, you just can't reach.
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October 20th, 2019 at 8:06:26 AM permalink
Another martyr for his cause. This afternoon , I shall drink a six pack in his memory and properly water his grave.
Obviously, society failed him.
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October 20th, 2019 at 10:09:47 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Maybe but he also made posts claiming that there is no such thing as a good or bad shoe of cards, which is absurd.


Getting back to the topic at hand, you just see the SAME characters taking turns getting suspended. Some men, you just can't reach.



It’s how they want it. So they get it.

Hasn’t changed since the early days in the 1990s.
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October 20th, 2019 at 2:35:49 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Goodbye. I think OD forgot to click "ban," so I will. While a nuking would be easily justified, I'll be nice and file this as a permanent resignation.



After some push-back behind the scenes, I'll file this as an "indefinite resignation." That means a minimum of 30 days and a humble request to return. Such requests may be made at the WoO contact form or DT.
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October 20th, 2019 at 3:16:58 PM permalink
Unfortunately I’m pretty confident you’re just kicking the can down the road here if he chooses to come back. I do agree he’s sharp and has some positive contributions. He’s not the only one, many of us get too keyboard warrior myself included, but he appears to have a tremendous amount of trouble following the simple guideline “don’t be a prick.” Babs has bent over backwards for him to warn him rather than suspend in the past on the issue.
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October 20th, 2019 at 3:40:15 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

After some push-back behind the scenes, I'll file this as an "indefinite resignation." That means a minimum of 30 days and a humble request to return. Such requests may be made at the WoO contact form or DT.



You may regret giving in to that push-back.

You had it right the first time with this guy
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October 20th, 2019 at 5:43:14 PM permalink
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You may regret giving in to that push-back.

You had it right the first time with this guy



Thanks. We mods sometimes have to find a compromise. Kub seems like a smart guy who could be valuable to the forum. However, he seems to not understand that when you're in somebody else's house you respect their rules. If you don't like the rules, then don't come in.
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October 20th, 2019 at 8:59:19 PM permalink
Did Evenbob get banned or did he resign because there isn't anything to fight about here.
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October 20th, 2019 at 9:15:47 PM permalink
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Did Evenbob get banned or did he resign because there isn't anything to fight about here.



Suspended for insulting Babs in her happy birthday thread.
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October 20th, 2019 at 9:29:02 PM permalink
Regarding Kubla Khan , I'm as opinionated as they come but not arrogant - arrogance stems from insecurity. In any case, anyone who can't follow the rules and keeps getting suspended should get the boot - permanently. Most all of these repeat offenders should have been booted long ago, anyone who has suffered five or more suspensions short or long can't program and is not worth the babysitting.
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October 20th, 2019 at 11:40:10 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Regarding Kubla Khan , I'm as opinionated as they come but not arrogant - arrogance stems from insecurity. In any case, anyone who can't follow the rules and keeps getting suspended should get the boot - permanently. Most all of these repeat offenders should have been booted long ago, anyone who has suffered five or more suspensions short or long can't program and is not worth the babysitting.


Not arrogant?!? ROFL 😂🤣
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October 21st, 2019 at 2:48:13 AM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

Goodbye.


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October 21st, 2019 at 5:48:36 AM permalink
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Not arrogant?!? ROFL 😂🤣



Personal insult -- Three-day suspension.
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October 21st, 2019 at 8:28:45 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Personal insult -- Three-day suspension.


Two things:

First, this is suspension worthy? Seriously?!? This is about as weak as it gets Mike but hey it’s your forum.

Second you forgot to actually suspend me.
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October 21st, 2019 at 9:06:41 AM permalink
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October 21st, 2019 at 9:17:37 AM permalink
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Two things:

First, this is suspension worthy? Seriously?!? This is about as weak as it gets Mike but hey it’s your forum.

Second you forgot to actually suspend me.



Face, Wizard, oncedear, and BBB are arranging a conference call to discuss your egregious offense. They have allotted two hours for the discussion. I have been appointed as your advocate. I think I can get your sentence lowered to two days. I am gathering forensic evidence, expert witness testimony, evaluating precedent,

Either all that or I'm sitting by a pool drinking hard lemonade.....

I expect you will be the first of many suspended for interacting with Mdawg. I make it 50-50 that I'll earn a time out.
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October 21st, 2019 at 9:44:46 AM permalink
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Face, Wizard, oncedear, and BBB are arranging a conference call to discuss your egregious offense. They have allotted two hours for the discussion. I have been appointed as your advocate. I think I can get your sentence lowered to two days. I am gathering forensic evidence, expert witness testimony, evaluating precedent,

Either all that or I'm sitting by a pool drinking hard lemonade.....

I expect you will be the first of many suspended for interacting with Mdawg. I make it 50-50 that I'll earn a time out.



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October 21st, 2019 at 9:51:07 AM permalink
Rumor is there’s protests and rioting in the streets of Canada, but they’re being remarkably polite about it.
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October 21st, 2019 at 10:34:27 AM permalink
The riots are scheduled for 2 pm central time, we are all meeting at Tim Horton’s.
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October 21st, 2019 at 10:42:55 AM permalink
Oh man, Tim Hortons! Ours all closed. The franchisee didn't like that Tim's corporate wanted him to sell things. Like, not only coffee and donuts but also vessels for coffee and even trucker hats. the horror!

Riot at 2 if you want, but don't forget to vote! I need Scheer and Trudeau to come within 2 points of each other in order to win a bet...

Edit: to make this post fit in the thread...there's a point at which evidence is sufficient to support the veracity of a claim, right? If pointing to that truth (or lack thereof) is insulting, that's maybe not the pointer's issue.
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October 21st, 2019 at 11:02:57 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Edit: to make this post fit in the thread...there's a point at which evidence is sufficient to support the veracity of a claim, right? If pointing to that truth (or lack thereof) is insulting, that's maybe not the pointer's issue.

Agreed, but precedent had been set when it was determined that calling someone a troll is a bannable offense, even if that said someone is undeniably a troll. I'm sure the same would apply to any objectionable personality trait.

Isn't a 3-day ban in Canada only 2.1 days here in the states?
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October 21st, 2019 at 11:43:33 AM permalink
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Not arrogant?!? ROFL 😂🤣



I must be dense. Took me reading it to figure out what was going on. I guess it is an insult. Damn you for getting suspended right before I leave for a chip collecting drive.
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October 21st, 2019 at 11:45:42 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman

Agreed, but precedent had been set when it was determined that calling someone a troll is a bannable offense, even if that said someone is undeniably a troll. I'm sure the same would apply to any objectionable personality trait.

Isn't a 3-day ban in Canada only 2.1 days here in the states?



yep, like if you call me fat, I might very well be fat but it is an insult to call me fat.

However I believe if you write something like, that post was very fat it would be ok.
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October 21st, 2019 at 11:50:10 AM permalink
upon discovering I was low on cash, my friend asked,

"Are you short?"

Standing at only 5'4, I immediately took offense!!!
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October 21st, 2019 at 1:37:32 PM permalink
This is Mike's forum, we all recognize that. And I am really trying to get out of the business of criticizing the moderators.

However, MDawg's post contained a statement that he was "opinionated but not arrogant." So pokergrinder's offense was of the nature of saying "I don't agree" rather than saying out of the blue "You are arrogant." It was MDawg that introduced the topic of whether he was arrogant.

If someone on the forum says : "I am the smartest person on this forum." Is it an insult if someone responds "LOL, are you serious?" ? Or was it an insult to other forum members to claim that they are not as smart as you?
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October 21st, 2019 at 3:50:47 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

This is Mike's forum, we all recognize that. And I am really trying to get out of the business of criticizing the moderators.



Thanks for trying.

Quote:

However, MDawg's post contained a statement that he was "opinionated but not arrogant." So pokergrinder's offense was of the nature of saying "I don't agree" rather than saying out of the blue "You are arrogant." It was MDawg that introduced the topic of whether he was arrogant.



Speaking for myself only, I don't get into the parts of speech and rules of grammar in analyzing whether something was an insult. If I was in MDawg's shoes I would have felt PG called me arrogant and then laughed at my claim that I wasn't. That MDawg brought it up doesn't matter.

To go even further, I can insult myself, but if anyone agrees, that is subject to suspension, depending on context.

Quote:

If someone on the forum says : "I am the smartest person on this forum." Is it an insult if someone responds "LOL, are you serious?" ? Or was it an insult to other forum members to claim that they are not as smart as you?



One may say, "I am the smartest person on this forum," because it is a very broad statement. However, one can't say "I'm smarter than gordon888." As to "LOL, are you serious?," yes, that would probably get a suspension.

Again, I go by feel. Other moderators may see things slightly differently.
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October 21st, 2019 at 3:52:49 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

This is Mike's forum, we all recognize that. And I am really trying to get out of the business of criticizing the moderators.



Thanks for trying.

Quote:

However, MDawg's post contained a statement that he was "opinionated but not arrogant." So pokergrinder's offense was of the nature of saying "I don't agree" rather than saying out of the blue "You are arrogant." It was MDawg that introduced the topic of whether he was arrogant.



Speaking for myself only, I don't get into the parts of speech and rules of grammar in analyzing whether something was an insult. If I was in MDawg's shoes I would have felt PG called me arrogant and then laughed at my claim that I wasn't. That MDawg brought it up doesn't matter.

To go even further, I can insult myself, but if anyone agrees, that is subject to suspension, depending on context.

Quote:

If someone on the forum says : "I am the smartest person on this forum." Is it an insult if someone responds "LOL, are you serious?" ? Or was it an insult to other forum members to claim that they are not as smart as you?



One may say, "I am the smartest person on this forum," because it is a very broad statement. However, one can't say "I'm smarter than gordon888." As to "LOL, are you serious?," yes, that would probably get a suspension.

Again, I go by feel. Other moderators may see things slightly differently.

Finally, sometimes a complaint gets filed, in which case we tend to be more strict, since the alleged victim at least felt insulted.
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October 21st, 2019 at 3:58:04 PM permalink
EvenBob has requested a 30-day self-suspension. I will let the first day overlap the day he is serving now. If you miss EB, you can find him easily at DT.
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October 21st, 2019 at 5:07:58 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

In any case, anyone who can't follow the rules and keeps getting suspended should get the boot - permanently. Most all of these repeat offenders should have been booted long ago, anyone who has suffered five or more suspensions short or long can't program and is not worth the babysitting.


I didn't look at everyone but these were what I noticed:

PokerGrinder now has three suspensions.
EvenBob four.
kubikulann four.
ams288 four.
romes three.
MaxPen three.
DarkOv two.
TomG two.
terapined two.
Boz - nine!
BillRyan - nine!
WatchMeWin - ten!
ZenKinG- sixteen!

The last four show a blatant disregard for the rules with 9 - 16 infractions each.
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October 21st, 2019 at 6:24:18 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I didn't look at everyone but these were what I noticed:



Did you look at both lists of old suspensions? I'd be interested to see a list going back as far as we kept records.
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October 21st, 2019 at 6:39:00 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I didn't look at everyone but these were what I noticed:

PokerGrinder now has three suspensions.
EvenBob four.
kubikulann four.
ams288 four.
romes three.
MaxPen three.
DarkOv two.
TomG two.
terapined two.
Boz - nine!
BillRyan - nine!
WatchMeWin - ten!
ZenKinG- sixteen!

The last four show a blatant disregard for the rules with 9 - 16 infractions each.



I dont like that Darkov guy who is very arrogant.

But as for myself, DarkoZ, it has been 2 suspensions in like 9 years so pretty good I think
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October 21st, 2019 at 7:05:18 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Did you look at both lists of old suspensions? I'd be interested to see a list going back as far as we kept records.


I looked at this one
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165
only.

Adding these two
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/30764-suspension-list-archive-2/#post644844

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/21601-suspension-list-archive/

as well, we arrive at:

PokerGrinder now has three suspensions.
Axelwolf four. (not counting one in which he volunteered to do the time for someone else)
MaxPen four.
terapined four.
SOOPOO three.
romes three.
DarkOv three.
rxwine three.
TomG two.
kubikulann five!
ams288 six!
EvenBob seven!
BillRyan - nine!
WatchMeWin - eleven!
Boz - fifteen!
ZenKinG- sixteen!

The last seven show a blatant disregard for the rules with 5 - 16 infractions each.
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October 21st, 2019 at 7:39:56 PM permalink
Thanks for doing the math! Are you limiting this to active members? Surely buz/buzzard/buzzpaf have lots of them. I won't even count all the other aliases I can't recall. mkl123456 and JerryLogan surely have lots. HotBlonde? Nareed?
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October 21st, 2019 at 7:43:02 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

I looked at this one
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165
only.

Adding these two
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/30764-suspension-list-archive-2/#post644844

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/21601-suspension-list-archive/

as well, we arrive at:

PokerGrinder now has three suspensions.
Axelwolf four. (not counting one in which he volunteered to do the time for someone else)
MaxPen four.
terapined four.
SOOPOO three.
romes three.
DarkOv three.
rxwine three.
TomG two.
kubikulann five!
ams288 six!
EvenBob seven!
BillRyan - nine!
WatchMeWin - eleven!
Boz - fifteen!
ZenKinG- sixteen!

The last seven show a blatant disregard for the rules with 5 - 16 infractions each.



I am glad to see I am not on the list.

I do believe that Darkov guy, whoever he is, deserved it. He is nothing but a blatant arrogant prick.
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October 21st, 2019 at 7:51:35 PM permalink
How did Boz go from being tied with me to being seven ahead? With the Martindale in effect, it seems like an impossible quest to top him.
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October 21st, 2019 at 7:51:54 PM permalink
I just ran the names that seem to be most recently active, and left anyone with just one suspension off the list (I might have missed a few relatively active members with two suspensions). Running those other names you mentioned through the three lists,
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/5288-suspension-list/#post71165
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/21601-suspension-list-archive/
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info/rules/30764-suspension-list-archive-2/#post644844
we arrive at:

PokerGrinder now has three suspensions.
HotBlonde four.
Axelwolf four. (not counting one in which he volunteered to do the time for someone else)
MaxPen four.
terapined four.
wizardofnothing (various incarnations) four.
gr8player four.
Beethoven9th / Beethoven3rd four.
Nareed four.
mrjjj three.
soxfan three.
lojo/lojo1 three.
mkl654321 three.
SOOPOO three.
romes three.
DarkOv three.
rxwine three.
laymedown three.
mcallister3200 two.
TomG two.
kubikulann - five!
ams288 - six!
EvenBob - seven!
BillRyan - nine!
Nathan (various incarnations) - nine!
WatchMeWin - eleven!
JerryLogan (including in his various incarnations) - twelve!
ahigh - thirteen!
Buzzard (various incarnations) - fourteen!
Boz - fifteen!
ZenKinG - sixteen!
Last edited by: MDawg on Oct 21, 2019
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October 21st, 2019 at 8:03:56 PM permalink
The mysteries of life. Once politics was banned, had we started a pool on what type of thread would now cause the most suspensions, a Happy Birthday thread wouldn't have even cracked my top 50 list of what to bet on.
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October 21st, 2019 at 8:23:36 PM permalink
Quote: Gialmere

The mysteries of life. Once politics was banned, had we started a pool on what type of thread would now cause the most suspensions, a Happy Birthday thread wouldn't have even cracked my top 50 list of what to bet on.



I would have offered pretty good odds a year ago that this place would not devolve into a voodoo system support center.
Times change I guess.🤣
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