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April 10th, 2020 at 8:40:45 PM permalink
Quote: onenickelmiracle

No such thing as Chinese, I think it's political to be offended and not to say Chinese Virus.

Doesn't matter what you call it, but calling it the Chinese Virus isn't making this happen.
China has been used to having these problems, it was them who let the genie out of the bottle. We should be angry at China, so to be reminded of their greed as the cause of a worldwide pandemic is fine. The world will reduce their dependence on China, less we forget.

The irony is economic dependence prevents wars, kind of difficult to be at war when one country has the bullets and the other has the guns.



My takeaway is that someone has to much idle time on their hands.
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April 10th, 2020 at 9:43:34 PM permalink
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April 11th, 2020 at 6:29:25 AM permalink
Quote: Lovecomps


My takeaway is that someone has to much idle time on their hands.

In the days and nights of virus fencing, we all do.
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April 11th, 2020 at 8:43:03 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

In the days and nights of virus fencing, we all do.



Some seem to be ale to use their time semi-productively.
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April 13th, 2020 at 5:25:14 AM permalink
I received a complaint about MaxPen's avatar as being violation of the rule against political statements. In channels outside the forum, Max said he does not intend to log in to change it and doesn't care what I do. Lacking other options, he is suspended until he requests to come back and then shortly after changes it.
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April 13th, 2020 at 9:25:33 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I received a complaint about MaxPen's avatar as being violation of the rule against political statements. In channels outside the forum, Max said he does not intend to log in to change it and doesn't care what I do. Lacking other options, he is suspended until he requests to come back and then shortly after changes it.

yet EvenBob's avatar of an ass is allowed to stay?

also, who is Max's avatar of?
putin?
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April 13th, 2020 at 10:08:06 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

yet EvenBob's avatar of an ass is allowed to stay?



Mooning is not a political stance.
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April 13th, 2020 at 11:10:58 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

yet EvenBob's avatar of an ass is allowed to stay?



EB's avatar is definitely childish and immature, but not a violation of the forum rules.
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April 13th, 2020 at 11:16:01 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

EB's avatar is definitely childish and immature,



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April 13th, 2020 at 1:31:28 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

EB's avatar is definitely childish and immature, but not a violation of the forum rules.

It's apparently the ass of a plastic garden gnome.
I concur that it is not a violation of forum rules.
I don't believe that describing the avatar is a violation of the rules either.

YMMV
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April 13th, 2020 at 1:40:58 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I received a complaint about MaxPen's avatar as being violation of the rule against political statements. In channels outside the forum, Max said he does not intend to log in to change it and doesn't care what I do. Lacking other options, he is suspended until he requests to come back and then shortly after changes it.

would a picture of a snowflake be a violation of the rules?
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April 13th, 2020 at 2:00:53 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

would a picture of a snowflake be a violation of the rules?



For awhile there I thought yours was two partial human skulls facing away from each other.
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April 13th, 2020 at 4:42:51 PM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

It's apparently the ass of a plastic garden gnome.



I happen to have a mooning gnome in my backyard. Personally, I'm okay with it. I believe they have shown Bart mooning people on the Simpsons before. If others feel strongly against EB's avatar, let me know.
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April 13th, 2020 at 4:53:12 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I happen to have a mooning gnome in my backyard. Personally, I'm okay with it. I believe they have shown Bart mooning people on the Simpsons before. If others feel strongly against EB's avatar, let me know.



They showed Bart full frontal in the Simpsons movie, but don’t worry, I’m not about to post a schlong as my avatar.
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April 13th, 2020 at 5:37:01 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I happen to have a mooning gnome in my backyard. Personally, I'm okay with it. I believe they have shown Bart mooning people on the Simpsons before. If others feel strongly against EB's avatar, let me know.



Consider yourself notified.
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April 13th, 2020 at 6:13:16 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

I happen to have a mooning gnome in my backyard. Personally, I'm okay with it. I believe they have shown Bart mooning people on the Simpsons before. If others feel strongly against EB's avatar, let me know.



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April 13th, 2020 at 6:39:26 PM permalink
I could give a gnomes rear about the avatar in the abstract. But context matters. Management demanded that political avatars be removed. When he changed his image, Bob selected a picture of a mooning figure. It's hard to see how that isn't meant as an insult to management.
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April 13th, 2020 at 6:48:58 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

It's hard to see how that isn't meant as an insult to management.



Speaking for myself only, I can take a friendly jab, which is how I interpreted it.
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April 13th, 2020 at 7:27:29 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Speaking for myself only, I can take a friendly jab, which is how I interpreted it.



I understand

But the Avatar change was because this forum was becoming vindictive with left and right political posts.

There was a lot of insults being hurled.

The original Avatar was a trump face designed to tick off people against trump. His change to an ass can only feel directed towards more than the management

After so many were offended by the Trump face to choose another image designed to offend seems like a slap in the face.

With the other people posting against his Avatar I don't think I am alone in my opinion
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April 13th, 2020 at 8:04:58 PM permalink
I like EvenBob’s avatar. Two mods have weighed in and aren’t offended. I think that’s really the end of it, since the complaint is that it’s an “insult to management.” Whatevs.
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April 13th, 2020 at 8:18:38 PM permalink
Is it a female gnome butt? Or a male gnome butt?
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April 14th, 2020 at 2:47:12 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Speaking for myself only, I can take a friendly jab, which is how I interpreted it.

When EB changed his avatar, I saw it as a defiant attempt to moon at the moderators and all members. But then it occurred to me that an avatar is meant to portray or represent EvenBob.
If EvenBob wants to represent or portray himself as an ass then, as I see it, the joke's on him. So I let it go.
I do see that others are offended.
I suggest to Wizard that he take steps to remove or replace any avatar at his discretion and I nominate EB's avatar as an early candidate.
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April 14th, 2020 at 4:23:27 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

When EB changed his avatar, I saw it as a defiant attempt to moon at the moderators and all members. But then it occurred to me that an avatar is meant to portray or represent EvenBob.
If EvenBob wants to represent or portray himself as an ass then, as I see it, the joke's on him. So I let it go.
I do see that others are offended.
I suggest to Wizard that he take steps to remove or replace any avatar at his discretion and I nominate EB's avatar as an early candidate.

What exactly is the rule about avatars?
I guess they can't political or offensive? I guess it doesn't really matter what it is, it matters what a certain percentage of people think it represents? Would it matter if it's picture garden gnomes ass or a picture real females ass? I thought it was a picture of a real persons ass, I assumed it was a guys. Is a picture of an ass appropriate, does it fall under that keep it PG rule? What if somebody had an avatar of a turquoise dress with a frontal bulge in it, would that be inappropriate or considered a political statement?

I can't believe that somebody went out of their way to complain about an avatar of somebody that's not even posting anymore. I think people should be able to have any Avatar they want, within reason.
But, if you want to be fair, I think Bob should have to remove it.
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April 14th, 2020 at 5:41:42 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

What exactly is the rule about avatars?
I guess they can't political or offensive? I guess it doesn't really matter what it is, it matters what a certain percentage of people think it represents? Would it matter if it's picture garden gnomes ass or a picture real females ass? I thought it was a picture of a real persons ass, I assumed it was a guys. Is a picture of an ass appropriate, does it fall under that keep it PG rule? What if somebody had an avatar of a turquoise dress with a frontal bulge in it, would that be inappropriate or considered a political statement?

I can't believe that somebody went out of their way to complain about an avatar of somebody that's not even posting anymore. I think people should be able to have any Avatar they want, within reason.
But, if you want to be fair, I think Bob should have to remove it.



EB is still posting. He just got over Covid-19
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April 14th, 2020 at 5:56:29 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

When EB changed his avatar, I saw it as a defiant attempt to moon at the moderators and all members. But then it occurred to me that an avatar is meant to portray or represent EvenBob.
If EvenBob wants to represent or portray himself as an ass then, as I see it, the joke's on him. So I let it go.

Well, since having an ass as an avatar is OK, I'm joining the club!
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April 14th, 2020 at 7:08:25 AM permalink
If we are going to regulate out EB's avatar, where does it stop? It goes down a slippery slope as then most anything can be construed as political. I feel strongly that it should stay.
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April 14th, 2020 at 7:25:16 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

If we are going to regulate out EB's avatar, where does it stop? It goes down a slippery slope as then most anything can be construed as political. I feel strongly that it should stay.



Your Avatar of a black man is offensive. *joke*

But seriously naked ass is considered offensive in most public places.

This is a public forum.(with a ban on profanity no less)

I don't see a slippery slope here
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April 14th, 2020 at 7:28:26 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Your Avatar of a black man is offensive. *joke*

But seriously naked ass is considered offensive in most public places.

This is a public forum.

I don't see a slippery slope here



This is an adult centric forum, theoretically Las Vegas based, where we have had open discussions on prostitution, drugs, etc.... Bob's avatar is stupid, but really, who really gives a frick? If he likes it, let him keep it.
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April 14th, 2020 at 7:31:25 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

If we are going to regulate out EB's avatar, where does it stop? It goes down a slippery slope as then most anything can be construed as political. I feel strongly that it should stay.



I think it only stops at what the management of the site says. I don't think rules are necessary and the management can take down anything they don't like. We are just guests here with free will not to read or post here.
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April 14th, 2020 at 7:54:52 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

If we are going to regulate out EB's avatar, where does it stop? It goes down a slippery slope as then most anything can be construed as political. I feel strongly that it should stay.

that slope already slipped when they made people take down avatars in the first place. I can't believe people are offended about a Putin Avatar and a flag. I really don't think anybody was truly offended, I think they just wanted to piss off the people they didn't like.
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April 14th, 2020 at 8:02:34 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

This is an adult centric forum, theoretically Las Vegas based, where we have had open discussions on prostitution, drugs, etc.... Bob's avatar is stupid, but really, who really gives a frick? If he likes it, let him keep it.

Well then they should let everybody keep or bring back their Avatar

What statement was Max trying to make anyways that was so political?

People are f****** silly.
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April 14th, 2020 at 8:33:58 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

If we are going to regulate out EB's avatar, where does it stop? It goes down a slippery slope as then most anything can be construed as political. I feel strongly that it should stay.



It has gone down a slippery slope for a looooong time. Political correctness run amuck.
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April 14th, 2020 at 8:44:04 AM permalink
Quote: DeMango

It has gone down a slippery slope for a looooong time. Political correctness run amuck.



Right. We still have at least one person flying a gay flag avatar. How that is not political when other things were is beyond me.
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April 14th, 2020 at 8:58:14 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Right. We still have at least one person flying a gay flag avatar. How that is not political when other things were is beyond me.



Huh. How is whether someone is or is not gay, political in any way?
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April 14th, 2020 at 9:03:59 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Right. We still have at least one person flying a gay flag avatar. How that is not political when other things were is beyond me.




If someones avatar offends you, notify the mods. Or don't.
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April 14th, 2020 at 9:21:22 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Right. We still have at least one person flying a gay flag avatar. How that is not political when other things were is beyond me.



What political statement is that flag making?
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April 14th, 2020 at 10:04:42 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

What political statement is that flag making?



Gay politics is pretty significant issue don't you think? You might say that person is not making a political statement, but you can't be sure. How do you know the person flying a Confederate flag is actually making a political or racist statement(maybe they just like the Dukes of Hazzard)?
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April 14th, 2020 at 10:22:15 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Gay politics is pretty significant issue don't you think? You might say that person is not making a political statement, but you can't be sure.



You're right, you can't be sure. But just saying "I'm gay" is not a political statement, neither is a symbol of that declaration.

Quote:

How do you know the person flying a Confederate flag is actually making a political or racist statement(maybe they just like the Dukes of Hazzard)?



People flying a Confederate flag specifically because of Dukes of Hazzard fandom is probably an incredibly small percentage. A Confederate flag in general is a political statement because it is directly representative of a political movement.
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April 14th, 2020 at 10:41:29 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

You're right, you can't be sure. But just saying "I'm gay" is not a political statement, neither is a symbol of that declaration.



The gay flag is a symbol of a political movement. To say it is not is to say some animals are more equal than others. It directly represents a political special interest group.
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April 14th, 2020 at 11:20:44 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

The gay flag is a symbol of a political movement. To say it is not is to say some animals are more equal than others. It directly represents a political special interest group.



The gay flag is a symbol of the desire of the gay community to have equal rights, which they currently do not have. The case is currently that some humans feel they are more equal than others. You just proved that. That's not political, that's a fact of life.
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April 14th, 2020 at 11:41:00 AM permalink
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The gay flag is a symbol of the desire of the gay community to have equal rights, which they currently do not have. The case is currently that some humans feel they are more equal than others. You just proved that. That's not political, that's a fact of life.



They do have equal rights. But thank you for agreeing it is a political statement. Can we have them taken off of avatars now?
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April 14th, 2020 at 11:42:50 AM permalink
No we do not. Your statement is the political one. I don't give a flying ______ about what someone puts as an avatar.
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April 14th, 2020 at 11:48:10 AM permalink
Quote: rsactuary

No we do not. Your statement is the political one. I don't give a flying ______ about what someone puts as an avatar.



You said flat out that it is a symbol of gays to achieve political aims. So they need to be taken down.
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April 14th, 2020 at 1:52:50 PM permalink
99% of the time, complaining about "political correctness" is something that people do when they get offended that someone else has called them out for being an a**hole.

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April 14th, 2020 at 3:40:12 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

99% of the time, complaining about "political correctness" is something that people do when they get offended that someone else has called them out for being an a**hole.

What do you call it when someone complains about an avatar of a non-active poster?

What does an avatar of Putin even mean, how is that political?

If anything, seems like he was making fun of himself.
What if someone's actual name is Hillary, Donald or Barack they want their screen name to reflect that are they going to have to change it?

Didn't someone just change their Avatar to a donkey? That's super political isn't it? Guess we can't have any elephants either. Oh crap, my avatar might be a picture of a gray wolf that's a political issue.


ams288 should seriously think about changing his Avatar, apparently 12% of adults have coulrophobia (a fear of clowns) what's a significant amount of people. Apparently, it's a real thing.

We lost an entire thread and a few posters just because a certain group couldn't handle the heat and we're always complaining. Would you like to guess who those people supported and who they really really dislike? I'm sure Barbara will tell us it was equal on both sides, I'll call b******* on that.

How absolutely silly is it that members have to change their Avatar, unless it's X-rated or clearly hateful.
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April 14th, 2020 at 5:17:54 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf



What does an avatar of Putin even mean, how is that political?



How is he not?

He's the elected head of a government. (I'm using elected loosely here)
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April 14th, 2020 at 7:13:46 PM permalink
Lot of great stuff in here

Quote: AxelWolf

What do you call it when someone complains about an avatar of a non-active poster?



They were doing it to be a passive aggressive a-hole. People could describe me like that a lot of the time, so I'll give them a pass

Quote: AxelWolf

What does an avatar of Putin even mean, how is that political?



He's a currently serving politician, so it is about as political as it could get.

EvenBob's picture is childish, immature, and in bad taste., and I love it. Just walk down Las Vegas Blvd. and you'll see similar bad taste, "Girls Direct to Your Room", so it fits in fine here.

A picture of money would also be perfect for Las Vegas, but that would also be a picture of a politician. Washington and Lincoln fall clearly into historical figures and not political figures.

Gay is sexual, not political. The community is based on a shared sexuality, not shared politics.

Quote: AxelWolf

What if someone's actual name is Hillary, Donald or Barack they want their screen name to reflect that are they going to have to change it?



If someone was going to use their real name as their screen name, they should be banned just on principle.
DRich
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April 14th, 2020 at 7:20:26 PM permalink
Quote: TomG



If someone was going to use their real name as their screen name, they should be banned just on principle.



Why? I admire people that are willing to use their real name.
At my age, a "Life In Prison" sentence is not much of a deterrent.
darkoz
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April 14th, 2020 at 7:36:09 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Why? I admire people that are willing to use their real name.



That's your name?

I thought you were making a statement on your personal wealth :))
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April 15th, 2020 at 12:48:56 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

Why? I admire people that are willing to use their real name.



I've never understood the need to hide behind a made up name on most forums but can understand an AP using an alias.
The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction is supposed to make sense.
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