Discussion II about the Suspension List
April 26th, 2016 at 10:10:42 AM
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Someone can always sue me anyway, but rendering an interpretation of statute is not the same as "practicing law without a license." You can't possibly believe that licensed attorneys are the only group permitted to discuss the law.Quote: TheGrimReaper13Lol. Non-lawyers ought not publicize legal advice or opinion. (Someone might sue you?)
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
April 26th, 2016 at 10:10:56 AM
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if you got nuttin to lose, you don't have to worry 'bout sueers, suitors, sueez, sootties, zooers, sew (ers), or aliens from space. Life is good, for some....Quote: TheGrimReaper13Lol. Non-lawyers ought not publicize legal advice or opinion. (Someone might sue you?)
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
April 26th, 2016 at 10:15:28 AM
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Giving bad advice is now a form of legal negligence.Quote: MathExtremistYou can't possibly believe that licensed attorneys are the only group permitted to discuss the law.
So much bullshit; so little time!
April 26th, 2016 at 10:21:19 AM
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Not where there is no representation. If I tell you on this forum that you should sue your grocer for selling GMO foods, and you do and you lose, I'm not on the hook for that. If you *hired me* to give you the same advice, I would be.Quote: TheGrimReaper13Giving bad advice is now a form of legal negligence.
Think about what that would mean otherwise. Everyone who has ever published their "winning gambling system" would be on the hook for giving bad advice and therefore legally negligent.
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
April 26th, 2016 at 10:25:37 AM
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Quote: TheGrimReaper13Lol. Non-lawyers ought not publicize legal advice or opinion. (Someone might sue you?)
Oh, I see what you did there.
April 26th, 2016 at 10:31:12 AM
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Let's all go hang out a shingle.Quote: RSOh, I see what you did there.
So much bullshit; so little time!
April 26th, 2016 at 10:46:43 AM
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Wouldn't that be nice. If you could actually collect, you could go around free rolling them.Quote: MathExtremist
Think about what that would mean otherwise. Everyone who has ever published their "winning gambling system" would be on the hook for giving bad advice and therefore legally negligent.
I'm wondering if you could actually win a case if you used someone's gambling system who promised you would make money?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
April 26th, 2016 at 10:52:24 AM
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I guess it depends who the someone is.Quote: AxelWolfI'm wondering if you could actually win a case if you used someone's gambling system who promised you would make money?
So much bullshit; so little time!
April 26th, 2016 at 10:56:05 AM
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I can sell you a system, I can promise you will win. You send me money now. Should you lose you wondering if you can sue me for bad advice? Your atty has to file suit, they have to serve 'papers' on me. 'Cept I'm down in the islands buyin' H&B with what was 'your money', hard to serve those papers on me now. I'll still read the forums, maybe I'll post a pic or two of what your money bought ;-)Quote: AxelWolfWouldn't that be nice. If you could actually collect, you could go around free rolling them.
I'm wondering if you could actually win a case if you used someone's gambling system who promised you would make money?
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
April 26th, 2016 at 11:02:02 AM
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I think it depends on what the deal was. If you paid money for a system and then lost money with it, you may have a fraud claim as long as you were truly duped -- that is, you weren't someone who knew that it was bunk in advance and was trying to freeroll. That happened just last month in Vegas:Quote: AxelWolfWouldn't that be nice. If you could actually collect, you could go around free rolling them.
I'm wondering if you could actually win a case if you used someone's gambling system who promised you would make money?
http://news3lv.com/news/local/suspect-with-guaranteed-system-of-gambling-arrested-for-securities-fraud
"In my own case, when it seemed to me after a long illness that death was close at hand, I found no little solace in playing constantly at dice."
-- Girolamo Cardano, 1563
April 26th, 2016 at 11:16:13 AM
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Truly strange thinking. Nobody would then. 2F already alluded to the civil suit consequences.Quote: MathExtremist...as long as you were truly duped -- that is, you weren't someone who knew that it was bunk in advance and was trying to freeroll.
Last edited by: TheGrimReaper13 on Apr 26, 2016
So much bullshit; so little time!
April 26th, 2016 at 11:24:49 AM
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Quote: TwoFeathersATLI can sell you a system, I can promise you will win. You send me money now. Should you lose you wondering if you can sue me for bad advice? Your atty has to file suit, they have to serve 'papers' on me. 'Cept I'm down in the islands buyin' H&B with what was 'your money', hard to serve those papers on me now. I'll still read the forums, maybe I'll post a pic or two of what your money bought ;-)
You would have to figure out how to post pictures first 2F lol.
You can shear a sheep a hundred times, but you can skin it only once. — Amarillo Slim Preston
April 26th, 2016 at 12:16:07 PM
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Quote: PokerGrinderYou would have to figure out how to post pictures first 2F lol.
RR+ 1, and counting ;-)
<edit> Actually, RR+2, I forgot I charge Canadians double ;-)
Last edited by: TwoFeathersATL on Apr 26, 2016
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
April 26th, 2016 at 1:21:31 PM
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Qfit for Kewlj, the forum really got screwed
on that trade. I miss Kewlj every single day,
there is nobody like him here now. He was
always willing to share so much of what
he does, I learned a lot from him.
on that trade. I miss Kewlj every single day,
there is nobody like him here now. He was
always willing to share so much of what
he does, I learned a lot from him.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
April 26th, 2016 at 3:16:27 PM
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BS is easy and fun to learn.Quote: EvenBobQfit for Kewlj, the forum really got screwed
on that trade. I miss Kewlj every single day,
there is nobody like him here now. He was
always willing to share so much of what
he does, I learned a lot from him.
So much bullshit; so little time!
April 26th, 2016 at 6:01:49 PM
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I can't wait to find out who TheGrimReaper is. 😒
$1700, 18, 19, 1920, 40, 60,... :/ Thx 'Do it again'. I'll try
April 28th, 2016 at 9:00:29 AM
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PM me if you REALLY want to know ?
April 28th, 2016 at 9:13:50 AM
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I wonder what the old Buzzard thinks...maybe he is listening and will let me know...
April 28th, 2016 at 9:24:07 AM
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I'm in no hurry to find out.Quote: MoosetonI can't wait to find out who TheGrimReaper is. 😒
So much bullshit; so little time!
April 28th, 2016 at 10:23:04 AM
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Quote: MoosetonI can't wait to find out who TheGrimReaper is. 😒
Kerkebet?
April 28th, 2016 at 1:43:38 PM
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3 Feathers ?
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
April 28th, 2016 at 1:54:55 PM
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1/2 feather would be a good name
No longer hiring, don’t ask because I won’t hire you either
May 1st, 2016 at 7:37:16 AM
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that's kinda what I always thought.Quote: GreasyjohnKerkebet?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 1st, 2016 at 7:56:38 AM
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If you figured it out, everything, but it had a lot of three's and six's in it, would you still go with it?Quote: AxelWolfthat's kinda what I always thought.
So much bullshit; so little time!
May 1st, 2016 at 6:47:19 PM
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I just thought it was a possibility I really haven't thought about it much. It's really not that important as long as you are not B79.Quote: TheGrimReaper13If you figured it out, everything, but it had a lot of three's and six's in it, would you still go with it?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 2nd, 2016 at 10:52:44 AM
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Oh help me now!
Another thread just got locked, shut down, and of course I just happened to just post in it.
That would be the 'Discovering Beatable Games' thread.
I must be guilty, again.
Though I don't know why, again.
Seemed like mostly friendly banter, again.
Some parts of that illustrate perfectly why I have not, HAVE NOT, been added as an administrator here.
In spite of the nuance I add, I miss much of the nuance of others.
Story of my life... Just 2F
Another thread just got locked, shut down, and of course I just happened to just post in it.
That would be the 'Discovering Beatable Games' thread.
I must be guilty, again.
Though I don't know why, again.
Seemed like mostly friendly banter, again.
Some parts of that illustrate perfectly why I have not, HAVE NOT, been added as an administrator here.
In spite of the nuance I add, I miss much of the nuance of others.
Story of my life... Just 2F
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 2nd, 2016 at 5:10:44 PM
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Did he tell the story here about getting mad, and throwing the baccarat shoe on the floor? Funny stuff. The casino banned him for a month.Quote: AxelWolfIt's really not that important as long as you are not B79.
So much bullshit; so little time!
May 2nd, 2016 at 6:16:50 PM
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I don't recall that. I'm sure it's just another one of his BS burning building stories.Quote: TheGrimReaper13Did he tell the story here about getting mad, and throwing the baccarat shoe on the floor? Funny stuff. The casino banned him for a month.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
May 11th, 2016 at 6:46:30 AM
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eraamjeef's posted a blog entry.
Spam.
Shoe fly, don't bother me....
Meaning someone should throw a shoe at it.
<edit> Joeldezes blog post bothers me too!
<2nd edit> is there a panic button here somewhere ;-?
<3rd edit > Eraamjeef's , what Eraamjeef's ?
And Laurietootoomuch went poof as well.
Someone's watching, I should go now....
Spam.
Shoe fly, don't bother me....
Meaning someone should throw a shoe at it.
<edit> Joeldezes blog post bothers me too!
<2nd edit> is there a panic button here somewhere ;-?
<3rd edit > Eraamjeef's , what Eraamjeef's ?
And Laurietootoomuch went poof as well.
Someone's watching, I should go now....
Last edited by: TwoFeathersATL on May 11, 2016
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 11th, 2016 at 8:19:08 AM
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Boz is still in jail?Quote: TwoFeathersATLSomeone's watching, I should go now....
So much bullshit; so little time!
May 11th, 2016 at 8:33:16 AM
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Quote: TheGrimReaper13Boz is still in jail?
Ask Sonuvabish69.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
May 13th, 2016 at 10:47:48 AM
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Quote: beachbumbabsAlso, due to massive trolling in the same thread, and previous offenses, TheGrimReaper13 has been suspended, nuclear option.
Halleluia. About time.
So..... was he Kerkabet in another guise? His generally mangled and obtuse use of English grammar, logical argument and conversational English will not be missed (because he will surely return with another ID)
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
May 13th, 2016 at 10:51:31 AM
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Quote: OnceDearHalleluia. About time.
So..... was he Kerkabet in another guise? His generally mangled and obtuse use of English grammar, logical argument and conversational English will not be missed (because he will surely return with another ID)
I always wondered how he lasted as long as he did.
From his first post, it seemed clear to me that he had been around previously.
Ding Dong the Witch is Dead
May 13th, 2016 at 11:07:05 AM
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'Having been around previously' is a term worth remembering. Credit to AMS, as far as I know he 'coined' the term. Causing Havoc after having been around previously is another term. I discern a distinction. I'm good with that ;-)Quote: ams288I always wondered how he lasted as long as he did.
From his first post, it seemed clear to me that he had been around previously.
The Reaper and I almost became buddies, I don't have many. Now I'm down to..well there's ( forgot an unfortunate incident )... I count one or two possibles, but very nearly zero actuals seems to be the way the math plays out.....
I called EB 'Buddy' once and he's had me blocked ever since ;-)
Still 'under the fridge'.... Still 2F
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 13th, 2016 at 11:17:28 AM
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If I could have PROVED he was kerkebet, I would have nuked him immediately. I suspect strongly that it was. The standard of proof here is higher than that.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
May 13th, 2016 at 11:33:23 AM
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I suspected it was Kerkebet but he was trying to communicate more like normal.
May 13th, 2016 at 11:49:05 AM
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+1 funny point for GJ!Quote: GreasyjohnI suspected it was Kerkebet but he was trying to communicate more like normal.
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
May 13th, 2016 at 6:26:35 PM
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Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, cat's are still gettin the gavel all over the joint, hey hey.
" Life is a well of joy; but where the rabble drinks too, all wells are poisoned!" Nietzsche
May 13th, 2016 at 6:47:08 PM
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Wow sox fan - comes back first post since last year
No longer hiring, don’t ask because I won’t hire you either
May 13th, 2016 at 7:03:29 PM
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Hi Sox!
'Bye' Reaper. Until we cross paths again.... ;-(
'Bye' Reaper. Until we cross paths again.... ;-(
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
June 6th, 2016 at 9:06:05 PM
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I am posting here because it seems that every other threads about KJ has been closed and the Wizard will only allow any posting relating to KJ or the other forum in this thread.
I get that Boz may have ruffled some feathers with his comment "that Larry and Freddy may be right." If the W feels that he has suffered a personal insult then I understand the suspension. But for him to add "feel free to not come back" IMO was a bit much.
I am a relatively new poster here and I also belong to other sites. I read the posts from both and so far have not made any judgment because it seems that there are two sides to the stories. The consensus is that this site has seen a decline in it's traffic/visitors. What is the benefit of suspending posters at "the drop of a hat" or hinting that certain posters are not welcome back?
I joined this forum to learn about the different games, how to and the best way to play them, and maybe seek advises from the more knowledgeable posters. Unfortunately everything that I have read and gleaned so far have only led me to the conclusion: Tread lightly.
I get that Boz may have ruffled some feathers with his comment "that Larry and Freddy may be right." If the W feels that he has suffered a personal insult then I understand the suspension. But for him to add "feel free to not come back" IMO was a bit much.
I am a relatively new poster here and I also belong to other sites. I read the posts from both and so far have not made any judgment because it seems that there are two sides to the stories. The consensus is that this site has seen a decline in it's traffic/visitors. What is the benefit of suspending posters at "the drop of a hat" or hinting that certain posters are not welcome back?
I joined this forum to learn about the different games, how to and the best way to play them, and maybe seek advises from the more knowledgeable posters. Unfortunately everything that I have read and gleaned so far have only led me to the conclusion: Tread lightly.
June 6th, 2016 at 9:53:10 PM
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Lesson one for internet forums- Dont be a dick.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
June 6th, 2016 at 9:59:16 PM
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I did not think that Boz' post was that bad. He insinuated that some posters on the other forums could have been right, but unless the W have been reading their rants over there how would he know?
Can you use the word "dick" on this board and not get suspended?
Can you use the word "dick" on this board and not get suspended?
June 6th, 2016 at 10:57:11 PM
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josephstalinofvegas.com is being readied.
get second you pig
June 6th, 2016 at 11:41:08 PM
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I have spoken with norm via email and I am deeply troubled. BY what he claims in that email-
Let me say this again. DEEPLY TROUBLED
Let me say this again. DEEPLY TROUBLED
No longer hiring, don’t ask because I won’t hire you either
June 7th, 2016 at 1:57:52 AM
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So after noting the remark two above, I went looking around a little for the ghost of Stalin. I must not have the right kind of special glasses needed to see it. I see multiple duplicative threads closed and redirected to the established one already existing for the purpose, and find that someone who is generally in a state of suspension involving some random highly lubricated outburst or another is suspended. And if there is something that wouldn't fit in the "today is Tuesday" file, I missed it, and the shadow of Uncle Joe seems pretty well hidden to my decrepit eyes. But maybe I just wasn't wanting to find the late Mr. Joe S. badly enough to start seeing him lurking about; perhaps the trick is to squint harder or something like that. Good luck to those who find him, and warn him for me that the Seafood Buffet at Rio isn't really worth it.
Suck dope, watch TV, make up stuff, be somebody on the internet.
June 7th, 2016 at 3:49:38 AM
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Quote: WizardofnothingI have spoken with norm via email and I am deeply troubled. BY what he claims in that email-
Let me say this again. DEEPLY TROUBLED
Why even bring it up? Why even contact the man responsible for all this? Why, when you go to that other site, do you not address the other mans issues but resort to profanity? Everyone here walks on eggshells.
When a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yells the loudest is the one who got hit.
June 7th, 2016 at 4:22:14 AM
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Hi WoV. kJ posted an email address. Have you reached out to him to compare the two sides of the story? I guess it's possible that both sides will just say the other is lying, or at least exaggerating.Quote: WizardofnothingI have spoken with norm via email and I am deeply troubled. BY what he claims in that email-
Let me say this again. DEEPLY TROUBLED
kJ's posts have been surprisingly bitter, at least surprising to me, but he hasn't come off like a total nutjob. Unlike some others, cough, cough.
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
June 7th, 2016 at 5:23:01 AM
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Yes I spoke to kj as well via email and judging on the two sides I would say nothing norm pressed the issue and is 72.8 percent at fault kj 23.2 and Mike 4 percent
No longer hiring, don’t ask because I won’t hire you either
June 7th, 2016 at 7:02:56 AM
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Quote: WizardofnothingYes I spoke to kj as well via email and judging on the two sides I would say nothing norm pressed the issue and is 72.8 percent at fault kj 23.2 and Mike 4 percent
What about the other 9900%?
100% risk of ruin
