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FleaStiff
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March 9th, 2013 at 2:26:52 PM permalink
Quote: Buzzard

" Trender's have no advantage over any other players at the table. "

Actually they do have an advantage, they can blame their losses on their failure to properly interpret the trend. And they all get to share their mistakes together. The orientals tend to follow the guy with the largest chip pile in front of him.

Face it, choosing by trend is about as valid as anything else... and some people do enjoy it.
MonkeyMonkey
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March 11th, 2013 at 12:10:17 PM permalink
Quote: Lexinger

For those who missed it, deluded persons aren't gamblers. They are plain deluded, and will fixate on the first hyped thing to happen to roll along. Ironically, they are the ones who spend decades regurgitating such simplistic edges, spend the most time talking about gambling per se. Textbook case. Medication indicated.

Gamblers are the ones who foster the gambling bug or seed, the intuitive mathematical feeling that things can and will work out only through playing at the casinos, then diligently convert that into active forms of denial, eg, compensation, to try to most distance themselves from what is actually the case. Here, all the way to setting up one supposedly new board after another in the hope of finally achieving that right magical formula, crowd, etc. Most gamblers are middle aged low-income pedestrian single white fundamentalist males. No longer royalty, doctors and lawyers, or even management material. Maybe the reason for the greater part of the homosexual references and conversation?

Gambling enthusiasts, even the greater part of the casino industry, who do speak of it in the proper mathematical terms, basically fall into the same rut in that they perpetuate not becoming addicts. Like the supposedly morally upright and always dieting crowd... straight and narrow, step on the white squares not the black.



Has anyone here located a web translator for this gibberish? I feel like I'm up the stream of consciousness without a paddle.
gr8player
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March 11th, 2013 at 12:54:23 PM permalink
FleaStiff: >The orientals tend to follow the guy with the largest chip stack.<

They tend to follow the guy that's "hot"; that's been winning a majority of his/hers bets. I call it the "all aboard".

MonkeyMonkey (now there's a fellow Bac player if I've ever read one), no need for any translator in order to understand where Lexinger's coming from. He appears to me as a rather cynical sort, and one who likes to "paint with rather broad strokes". Every gambler, every poster, EVERYONE; he's got us all figured out in all his self-annointed brilliancy/superiority. Leave him be. Every public forum has their "Lexinger"s; probably best to accept it as the price of admission.
MonkeyMonkey
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March 11th, 2013 at 11:49:00 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

MonkeyMonkey (now there's a fellow Bac player if I've ever read one), no need for any translator in order to understand where Lexinger's coming from. He appears to me as a rather cynical sort, and one who likes to "paint with rather broad strokes". Every gambler, every poster, EVERYONE; he's got us all figured out in all his self-annointed brilliancy/superiority. Leave him be. Every public forum has their "Lexinger"s; probably best to accept it as the price of admission.



Actually, I deal it more than play it, but it is a fun game to play (to me anyway), I enjoy the social interactions of the players.

As far as Lex goes, with his latest tirade against the Wiz and the way he seems to have generally rubbed just about everyone the wrong way, I don't think his presence will be part of the price of admission for a whole lot longer. I think I can live with that. :)
treetopbuddy
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March 12th, 2013 at 7:16:43 AM permalink
I played at the new Horseshoe Casino in Cincinnati. Nice place. Played Baccarat for the first time. There are 3 Baccarat tables 25-10-10 minimums and 100 k maximum? I found it interesting that the casino runs just 3 Baccarat games in an 500 square foot area. Cosy and tucked away. All Asian players. Not one whitey except me. I played for 8 hours or approximately 8 shoes. I didn't feel any pressure playing Baccarat unlike all the other games I've played. With craps the 7 is alway lurking, waiting to take all your money. Roulette the 0-00 always shows at the worst time. Blackjack the dealer draws 99 cards to get 21. Horse racing it's the 5 or more horses that could beat my pick. While playing Baccarat I never had the feeling that the "boogie man" was going to get me. I simply bet the Banker line and used an up as you win progression....1-1-1-2-2-3-3-5-5 and stop. Was able to catch several runs during the 8 hours of play. Ended up winning so that makes me a professional Bac player if I never play again.
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gr8player
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March 12th, 2013 at 11:27:54 AM permalink
Great job, Treetopbuddy! And some nice insight, as well. Pardon my indulgence as I add the following:

There exists a "boogie man" in every form of gambling. That's simply the nature of the beast. So, my friend, while you apparently averted his presence at your last session, it'd probably be a smart idea to keep a constant vigil by looking over your shoulder. What do I mean by that? You'd best be prepared to know what to do when the cards aren't quite as kind to you as they were at your last session. Have a pre-planned response when the randomness of this game is not quite matching the results that you're seeking. Hint: The "no-bet" option....betting more and more won't switch the results to your desired effect....better to cease betting and await that time when the table's results are more suited to your style of play.

I do like the up-as-you-win (read: positive) progression. Looks a bit like the Guetting Progression. If you've never seen it, you might want to try googling Guetting Progression and taking a gander at it.

Lastly, TTB, yes, if you cease playing Bac now, you've successfully completed your albeit brief Bac career as a winner. Congrats. That said, methinks you will surely play this game again, but, still, remember to keep that same train of thought...."Winner"...."Quitting a winner". Always keep one eye toward your exit strategy whenever you've got the casino's money. Catch your run-up and look to run with it in your pockets. They'll always deal the cards again tomorrow. Set short, easily-obtainable win goals, both on session and daily basis'. That's thinking as a winner; and thinking a a winner is half the battle to fulfillment..
treetopbuddy
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March 12th, 2013 at 1:03:02 PM permalink
Thanks for input gr8player. Yes, I do understand that variance can be one of the "boogie men" found in all games of chance. The game is played at a nice pace and I simply felt like I was playing heads or tails. Who doesn't like playing heads or tails?

While playing the game, I noticed that most players were obsessed with the history board. They were obviously trying to identify patterns or trends. It's hard for me to believe that a player "can look around corners" or glean any info from board to determine the next play.

It looks like Baccarat is going to become my game of choice until I bust out. I'll need to purchase a copy of Rosetta Stone's.... how to speak Chinese.
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gr8player
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March 12th, 2013 at 1:43:00 PM permalink
Treetopbuddy: >It's hard for me to believe that a player "can look around corners" or glean any info from board to determine the next play.<

That's OK. Alot of players do not believe in trending. Alot do. I suppose it's all a matter of personal choice. But, let's ask ourselves: Where does "personal choice" come frome, generally speaking? Comfortability. Familiarity. I happen to be both comfortable and familiar with "trend catching" and "trend betting". And that all serves to clarify the "big picture" that you referred to above as the "history board". And then it's but a short step to, as you so aptly put it above, "determining the next play". Notice you and I both used the term "determining" as opposed to the term "predicting". While I surely can determine my next bet placements; I most assuredly can predict nothing. No crystal ball. No tea leaves. Just experience. Oh, and some worthy statistics, regarding the Laws of Series and regarding my preferred bet selections' variances. Oh, and some money-management processes built around those stats.

When you look at trending on a more personal, comfortable, and knowledgeable level, alot of the "mysteriousness" of it all evaporates right before your eyes, and that mysteriousness is replaced by a familiarity. And that is how trending is used correctly. And....dare I say it 'round here?....potentially profitable.
Buzzard
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March 12th, 2013 at 1:47:02 PM permalink
" And....dare I say it 'round here?....potentially profitable. "

You can say it, but only expect the mentally challenged to agree with you.
Shed not for her the bitter tear Nor give the heart to vain regret Tis but the casket that lies here, The gem that filled it Sparkles yet
treetopbuddy
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March 12th, 2013 at 2:35:22 PM permalink
Buzzard how much money have you lost in your lifetime, gambling? I think that's a fair question to ask in light of you negative view on gambling in general. Maybe other members in the forum can comfort you, as misery loves company. Your "mentally challenged" comments are out of line and getting old. Just because you lost you ass gambling doesn't mean everybody loses gambling. You probably don't even gamble due to zero funds or you have sworn off it for life, as you have ended up in a .......... broke in Grand Junction. Yes?

Your the hall monitor waiting to pounce on anybody that might suggest they can win. Yes, we all know the math. Yes, we know that most players lose. So what's your point? Now, I do know you lose betting on horses, again, if in fact you do. Your sophomoric approach to handicapping horses is comical. Back off and stop the name calling.
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