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Lexinger
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March 2nd, 2013 at 4:34:46 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

I use those edges to the very best of my ability to, at the very least, put myself in the very best position to succeed over the long term.


Quote: odiousgambit

You won't be censored, but don't expect the W. to participate either.


Someone ought to keep telling him that he's deluded. How else to account for his still firmly believing in the same simplistic edges after 30 years? "Religious fervor" doesn't cut it, I'm afraid.

Reminds of the extreme gangs which end up in Las Vegas after having been chased out of L.A. by the law. Finally, a place where they can fit in.
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treetopbuddy
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March 2nd, 2013 at 5:07:30 PM permalink
Quote: Lexinger

Someone ought to keep telling him that he's deluded. How else to account for his still firmly believing in the same simplistic edges after 30 years? "Religious fervor" doesn't cut it, I'm afraid.

Reminds of the extreme gangs which end up in Las Vegas after having been chased out of L.A. by the law. Finally, a place where they can fit in.

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Lexinger
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March 2nd, 2013 at 7:08:44 PM permalink
Crotch crickets?
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gr8player
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March 9th, 2013 at 9:27:13 AM permalink
Lexinger, please be assured that I am rather distanced from being any sort of "delusional". While you may or may not agree with my perceived "player's edges" and their inherent value to me, I simply cannot see that as a reason to perceive me as "deluded".

Each and every one of those edges are our very necessary "survival kit" for any casino gaming, IMHO.

Think about it for a moment, if you will:

You just completed a decent run-up of wins through, say, a Player's "domination" in this last portion of the shoe. You've not only hit your win goal, you've surpassed it. A prudent man might (read: could/would/SHOULD) consider "walking" at this advantageous time.

Imagine, however, just imagine....the pit boss walks over and says "No, we prefer you to keep playing." Hmmm....the casino, not you, deciding and/or controlling your personal "exit strategy". Impossible, right? You'd never, ever play in that casino again, right?

And I can make that same case for each and every one of my "player's edges".

It is most imperative that I (WE) maintain absolute control of our own edges. I'm sure you'll agree there, wouldn't you, Lexinger?

I wish you all the very best of it.
treetopbuddy
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March 9th, 2013 at 9:51:18 AM permalink
Sounds like your trying to predict future outcomes by past results?
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treetopbuddy
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March 9th, 2013 at 10:26:59 AM permalink
Going through Wizards 1000 shoe RGN'S trying to find "edges" which, sadly I still believe exist. Yeah, I don't care about the house advantage either. Don't even care that millions before me tried to crack game.
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Lexinger
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March 9th, 2013 at 10:59:40 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

I'm sure you'll agree there, wouldn't you, Lexinger?


For those who missed it, deluded persons aren't gamblers. They are plain deluded, and will fixate on the first hyped thing to happen to roll along. Ironically, they are the ones who spend decades regurgitating such simplistic edges, spend the most time talking about gambling per se. Textbook case. Medication indicated.

Gamblers are the ones who foster the gambling bug or seed, the intuitive mathematical feeling that things can and will work out only through playing at the casinos, then diligently convert that into active forms of denial, eg, compensation, to try to most distance themselves from what is actually the case. Here, all the way to setting up one supposedly new board after another in the hope of finally achieving that right magical formula, crowd, etc. Most gamblers are middle aged low-income pedestrian single white fundamentalist males. No longer royalty, doctors and lawyers, or even management material. Maybe the reason for the greater part of the homosexual references and conversation?

Gambling enthusiasts, even the greater part of the casino industry, who do speak of it in the proper mathematical terms, basically fall into the same rut in that they perpetuate not becoming addicts. Like the supposedly morally upright and always dieting crowd... straight and narrow, step on the white squares not the black.
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FleaStiff
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March 9th, 2013 at 11:14:38 AM permalink
I once sat down at a MiniBacc table and the Floor brought over a chart and a pencil and put them in front of me. Didn't offer or ask or anything. Sort of a this is how the game is played type thing.
Some blokes actually believe in trends, even those who are flooring the MiniBacc pit.

I think I may have hurt his feelings when I tossed the crap aside. I know the other players at the table were all diligently keeping track of things.
gr8player
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March 9th, 2013 at 12:16:30 PM permalink
Lexinger: >....setting up one board after another...seeking the right crowd<

I've posted, in detail, at the Gambler's Glen baccarat message board and at the now-defunct Baccarat Forum. Posted. Not an owner nor even an administrator. Would I like to further discuss this game? Yes, hence the title of this thread. But you seem to allude to something...like I've been all over the internet desperately seeking some chumps that are, to use your own favorite description, "deluded" enough to follow my beliefs.

I state the truth as I see it in every aspect of my baccarat game. What you do with that truth is your business. Should you wish to discuss it with me, I am here. If, however, you insist on demeaning my character and/or misstating my position(s) without so much as asking me to clarify same; in those cases I will prefer to ignore your incessant rants.

TreeTopBuddy, I'm afraid you'll find no such "mathematical edge" to be had in those shoes. The mathematical edge remains with the "house"...now and forever. It is an uphill battle, for sure, to secure our own advantages. But I happen to be of the opinion that it IS do-able. But it takes work...real work.

If I were you, I'd begin with:

Find a bet placement that you're comfortable with. Now go through those same shoes, if you will, and calculate the "variances" of same. Then construct a MM plan around those variances. Then learn the very necessary patience and discipline to stick with your bet selection/MM plan. That's the bare-bones basics, but a great start, IMHO.

FleaStiff, you, obviously, are not a "trender". So there's virtually no need for the baccarat scorecards. And that's OK, too. If you're fine with that, if you don't like to trend or even disbelieve in any trending, there's nothing wrong with that. If I were sitting right next to you at the same table, and I bet the Banker's side and you bet the Player's side, we'd both have, pretty much the same chances of winning and/or losing our bet.

Trender's have no advantage over any other players at the table. Toss a coin, if you will, to determine your next bet placement. Whatever floats your boat.

But, while I prefer trending, it is MY REACTION to my trending results that separates me from most of the other players. I know what to look for, WIN OR LOSE. I know what to do next, WIN OR LOSE. All because I know how my preferred trends "form", how they "play out", and how their inherent "variances" measure up.

Might it be that those that do not believe in trending DO NOT have that knowledge at hand and, thusly, have been soured to the whole trending "process"?

I happen to think so.

I wish you all the very best of it.
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March 9th, 2013 at 2:11:25 PM permalink
" Trender's have no advantage over any other players at the table. "

That's the first thing you have said that I agree with.
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