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January 1st, 2023 at 11:53:11 AM permalink
Note: I can't find it here (or even the "sports betting chatter", thread) but I am almost certain that I posted some of these already.

Anyway, below are my Graded NFL bets:

x: 2.2 units Vikings' +3.5 @ $1.85
xxx: 0.8 units Ravens' -9.5 @ $4.50
xxx: 1.5 units Ravens' @ $1.83 ML ^^^
xxx: 4.5 units Lions' @ $1.43 ML***
xxx: 3.3 units Saints' +6.5 @ $1.83 ***


^^^: Wanted 3.3 units on @ this price, but they cut me to this amount (my estimated "$ EV" is higher for this bet, but the "% EV" is higher for the "Ravens -9.5" one).

***: These will not be part of the "official results", but I may put them in the adjustments (as the games have already started).

(Edit:~1500, Pac Time):
x: 2.2 units Raiders' +10.5 @ $1.85@@@ (Had written 49ers -9.5, I will still count the 49ers bet as part of the official results, and probably make an adjustment).

@@@: I may post a temporary screenshot to one-drive (for up to 36 hours) if the bet ends up winning (and if anyone wants to see it?).

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Update (~1200, Pac Time):
The +27.5 @ $1.90 "live odds" for the Texans looked "pretty good" to me (probably would have had 2.5 units at those odds, if it wasn't 6am### where I live).

###: I can bet live easily, after 10am (East Australia Time).

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Other:
. I know I had money in the game (so I will have a bit of bias at least) but do you think that Michigan play was a TD or not? (The one where it was ruled just short, and then Michigan Fumbled on the next play).
. I probably won't be "testing my limits for a while", because I have a pretty good idea now.
. Besides losing an extra $7k on Michigan. I didn't do too bad yesterday (because I went alright on some NBA and NBL bets).
. Even though I liked Purdue +14.5, I had some more money on LSU -11 @ $1.89 and -11.5 @ $1.93, as I respected the market more than my own opinion (especially since Pinnacle has LSU -13 @ $1.625 / -160, so these -11 etc are obviously "great on paper").

Update (~1215, Pac Time): They will still probably win, but glad I couldn't find any $1.15+ @ the ML for the Chiefs (score is 17-13 to the Broncos').
Note: It was only going to be a "for fun bet".
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January 1st, 2023 at 2:52:43 PM permalink
The Michigan play was 100% a TD. His knee was down before the ball was in the end zone. Which was IRRELEVANT, as he did not have possession until he was IN the end zone. Stunningly bad officiating. And both announcers and their ‘rules expert’ pointed it out.
Also, on the previous play the officials spotted the ball on the WRONG side of the 50 yard line, costing Michigan 2-3 yards. Which might have made the other bad call moot!

So many bad coaching decisions by Harbaugh. Don’t know where to start. He was 1-5 in Bowl games before yesterday. He earned his 1-6.
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January 1st, 2023 at 3:12:39 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

The Michigan play was 100% a TD. His knee was down before the ball was in the end zone. Which was IRRELEVANT, as he did not have possession until he was IN the end zone. Stunningly bad officiating. And both announcers and their ‘rules expert’ pointed it out.
Also, on the previous play the officials spotted the ball on the WRONG side of the 50 yard line, costing Michigan 2-3 yards. Which might have made the other bad call moot!

So many bad coaching decisions by Harbaugh. Don’t know where to start. He was 1-5 in Bowl games before yesterday. He earned his 1-6.
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. Even his father wanted to take a time-out (at one stage) if I am remembering correctly?
Note: This likely wouldn't have changed the result, but you never know(?)
. Even though I didn't count it in this thread, I was "lucky I had and extra $2500 in total" on Ohio State (had about half on the +2.5 @ $2.50, and the other half +5.0 @ $1.90).

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Live Betting (potential):
Won't count this "hypothetical" live bet either, but I like (xxx) the Vikings +22.5 @ $1.90, available at half time.
Main reason I won't count it in the "official results": can't bet live (easily) until 10 am "East Australia Time" (currently about ~9:10 am , ATM).
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January 2nd, 2023 at 3:11:50 PM permalink
x: 2 units on the Bengals' +2.5 @ +105***

***: I probably wouldn't have the bet, if I couldn't get the "Special Prime Time" odds.
Note: I have the "fair line" about +1 to the Bengals

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Other:
. Wanted to back the over, as I think there could be a lot of TDs, Turnovers, etc, but "on paper, there is not enough value ", IMO (so just had a "for fun bet", over 50.5).
. Even with "one very bad call in my favor", my Ravens' bet still lost.
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January 2nd, 2023 at 4:20:13 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO


So many bad coaching decisions by Harbaugh. Don’t know where to start. He was 1-5 in Bowl games before yesterday. He earned his 1-6.
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And now the Broncos are trying to hire him.
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January 2nd, 2023 at 6:12:16 PM permalink
Sadly, that Bills player may have just died on the field. That was the first time I have seen CPR on the field.
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January 2nd, 2023 at 6:32:00 PM permalink
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Sadly, that Bills player may have just died on the field. That was the first time I have seen CPR on the field.
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I was watching. I did not actually see ‘CPR’ being administered. Did you? I heard Joe Buck mention it. My wife was a CPR instructor. Her hypothesis is that he was hit in the sternum which could temporarily stop your heart. Sometimes a single thump will restart it. They have a defibrillator which can shock a fibrillating heart back into a normal rhythm. If by the time he was put in the ambulance he was breathing on his own and his heart was beating on its own he may make a full recovery.
Not impossible, but likely his neck isn’t broken, as he did stand up after the hit.

I don’t know how these guys can keep playing.
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January 2nd, 2023 at 6:43:37 PM permalink
I'm watching the game on a few-minute delay, so I hope my prayers aren't in vain.
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January 2nd, 2023 at 9:45:18 PM permalink
Man how awful. Thoughts and prayers with him and his family. I saw that his vitals had returned to normal and they knocked him out to they could put in a breathing tube.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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January 3rd, 2023 at 5:17:36 AM permalink
I haven't heard if they have taken the intubation tube out yet. Hopefully he is breathing on his own.
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January 3rd, 2023 at 8:35:40 AM permalink
Did either of you have Illinois in their bowl game? One of those horrible bad beats with no time on the clock.
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January 3rd, 2023 at 8:37:52 AM permalink
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Did either of you have Illinois in their bowl game? One of those horrible bad beats with no time on the clock.
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I know a guy that had a large bet on USC -2. That was a brutal beat as well.
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January 3rd, 2023 at 8:43:29 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

Quote: DRich

Did either of you have Illinois in their bowl game? One of those horrible bad beats with no time on the clock.
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I know a guy that had a large bet on USC -2. That was a brutal beat as well.
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It's almost as if the people who set the lines know more than the rest of us.
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January 3rd, 2023 at 8:58:51 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: unJon

Quote: DRich

Did either of you have Illinois in their bowl game? One of those horrible bad beats with no time on the clock.
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I know a guy that had a large bet on USC -2. That was a brutal beat as well.
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It's almost as if the people who set the lines know more than the rest of us.
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Indeed. Though if they really knew how the last two minutes of the USC game would go, they would make more money in a different line of work.
The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the strong; but that is the way to bet.
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January 3rd, 2023 at 9:09:58 AM permalink
Quote: unJon

Quote: DRich

Did either of you have Illinois in their bowl game? One of those horrible bad beats with no time on the clock.
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I know a guy that had a large bet on USC -2. That was a brutal beat as well.
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My best friend also had a large bet on USC, he might have to stiff his bookie on this one.
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January 3rd, 2023 at 12:43:30 PM permalink
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I haven't heard if they have taken the intubation tube out yet. Hopefully he is breathing on his own.
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Me neither. The latest I have read was that he is still in a critical condition?

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-64154445
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January 4th, 2023 at 7:33:19 PM permalink
Draft Result Summary:

College FootballBet / OptionUnit Won / Lost
---------wanted: 3 units on Purdue +14.5 @ $1.90 ***-3.000
3 units on Oklahoma +10.5 @ $1.90 2.700
--------- wanted 3 units on Pittsburgh Panthers +8 @ $1.89 ***2.670
---------Wanted 2.5 units on Kentucky +3.5 @ $1.70 -2.500
---------Wanted 1.5 units on Ohio State @ $3.00 ML-1.500
Another bet on Ohio State ..0.6 units @ $2.95 ML. -0.600
---------3 units on Michigan @ $1.31 ML -3.000
---------Total For Period-5.230

NFL Bet / Option--
--------2.2 units Vikings' +3.5 @ $1.85 -2.200
--------Wanted 3.3 units Ravens' @ $1.83 ML2.739
--------Total For Period0.539



Current Results:

NCAAF:
Turnover (Total bet, so far): 270.355
Profit: 5.448
"Profit on Turnover": 2.01...%

NFL:
Turnover (Total bet, so far): 148.06
Profit: 25.809
"Profit on Turnover": 17.43...%

"Live NFL...":
Turnover (Total bet, so far): 8
Profit: -3.5
"Profit on Turnover": -43.75%

Combined:
Turnover (Total bet, so far): 426.415
Profit: 27.757
"Profit on Turnover": 6.50...%

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Comment(s):
. Mainly based the results on the bets that I wanted, rather than what I actually had.
. Didn't include some NFL bets, because the games' had already been going for about an hour, when I first posted them.
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January 4th, 2023 at 7:52:50 PM permalink

GamesPlayoff ----PointsPointsExpectedActualPredicted No.Actual No.----
PlayedBerth (A/B/F)TeamForAgainstWin %Win %of Winsof WinsTeam
16AKC46535663.05%81.25%10.0913KC
16BPHI45532866.44%75.00%10.6313PHI
15ABUF42026372.53%80.00%10.8812BUF
16ASF41226471.58%75.00%11.4512SF
16AMIN39541448.11%68.75%7.7012MIN
16BDAL46131668.69%68.75%10.9912DAL
15BCIN39130662.62%73.33%9.3911CIN
16WLAC36335351.89%62.50%8.3010LAC
16BBAL33428857.91%56.25%9.2710BAL
16WNYG34934950.48%53.13%8.089.5NYG
16ATB29632845.32%50.00%7.258TB
16JAX38433457.48%46.88%9.208JAX
16NE34131254.96%43.75%8.798NE
16SEA38838550.88%43.75%8.148SEA
16DET43341153.11%43.75%8.508DET
16MIA38639349.58%43.75%7.938MIA
16GB35435150.91%43.75%8.158GB
16PIT28033241.97%43.75%6.718PIT
16FWSH29533743.80%43.75%7.017.5WSH
16FNYJ29030547.94%43.75%7.677NYJ
16FNO32333548.64%43.75%7.787NO
16TEN28233941.29%37.50%6.617TEN
16FCLE34735349.62%37.50%7.947CLE
16FCAR33736746.19%37.50%7.396CAR
16FATL33536945.62%37.50%7.306ATL
16FLV38238749.83%31.25%7.976LV
16FLAR29136539.24%31.25%6.285LAR
16FIND25839530.19%28.13%4.834.5IND
16FDEN25633137.79%25.00%6.054DEN
16FARI32741139.14%25.00%6.264ARI
16FCHI31343434.55%18.75%5.533CHI
16FHOU25738930.68%15.63%4.912.5HOU

Note 1 : A = " Division Winner ", B = "Made it to a Playoff Berth" , W = "Wild Card Spot", and F = "Failed to make the Playoffs"

Note 2(a): The figures in the "Expected Win % column" have been adjusted so that the sum of the whole column is 1600%.
Note 2(b): Because of this, the "Predicted No. of Wins" will be slightly higher than it should be ( at least for this week).


Strike-through (see above): Mainly didn't bother doing this adjustment, as the figures add up close to 1600% (~1602%).




Games----PointsPointsExpectedActualPredicted No.Actual No.----
PlayedTeamForAgainstWin %Win %of Winsof WinsTeam
13PHI38624871.38%92.31%9.2812PHI
13BUF35322172.45%76.92%9.4210BUF
13KC38429862.94%76.92%8.1810KC
13MIN31231350.26%76.92%6.5310MIN
13DAL36022971.79%76.92%9.3310DAL
13SF31719772.75%69.23%9.469SF
13BAL30125059.68%69.23%7.769BAL
13CIN33526562.03%69.23%8.069CIN
13MIA31631251.07%61.54%6.648MIA
13WSH25325649.83%57.69%6.487.5WSH
13NYG26730044.57%57.69%5.797.5NYG
13TEN24127643.63%53.85%5.677TEN
13LAC29532645.40%53.85%5.907LAC
13NYJ26424354.59%53.85%7.107NYJ
13SEA34233451.62%53.85%6.717SEA
13NE27623957.63%53.85%7.497NE
13TB22425444.12%46.15%5.746TB
13DET34934750.71%46.15%6.596DET
13GB26330243.49%38.46%5.655GB
13JAX29429450.42%38.46%6.555JAX
13LV30831349.61%38.46%6.455LV
13CAR26029044.94%38.46%5.845CAR
13ATL28831246.40%38.46%6.035ATL
13CLE30032346.70%38.46%6.075CLE
13PIT22729337.83%38.46%4.925PIT
13IND20929833.25%34.62%4.324.5IND
13ARI27734839.11%30.77%5.084ARI
13NO26529744.70%30.77%5.814NO
13LAR21829635.46%30.77%4.614LAR
13DEN19423840.26%23.08%5.233DEN
13CHI27033340.00%23.08%5.203CHI
13HOU21131431.37%11.54%4.081.5HOU


Important: I haven't adjusted these results to any "strength of schedule" yet, so it is just the "raw data".

Note 1: If any figure in the "Actual No. of Wins" ends in 0.5, then that just means that they had an "odd number of tied games" (all of those have teams have only tied once, so far this season).

Note 2: I am just using the info on the standings page on ESPN (feel free to check for errors, if you like).

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How to use the above table to work out how to get a "ball-park estimated spread" for a game,
1) Find two teams that are playing each other this week
2) Go to the column "Expected win %" and find the figure for each team.
3) Multiply the above figures by 16.
4) Subtract the bigger figure from the smaller figure.
5a) Multiply that figure by 2 (that will be the 'dogs' "estimated spread")
5b) To work out the "estimated spread" for the favorite, just put a "- " in front of the figure.
6) Optional: Adjust for any home field advantage (I usually set this between 0 and 1 , but you can use any figure you think is a good estimate).

Important 1: This method is based on the "old" 16 game regular season, so that is why step 3 is to "Multiply ... by 16".

Important 2 (but obvious): The team with the bigger "Expected win %" will always be the favorite (before making any adjustments, at least).

Important 3: This will just get you a "ball park" estimate, as it doesn't take into account things like "strength of schedule", "key injuries", "eliminated teams, tanking for draft picks^^^ ",and any other factors you think will need to make an adjustment for.

^^^: Any teams that have been eliminated from the playoffs may be subject to this. Though I personally don't believe in it strongly enough to account for it in my own estimates (I find this a very hard area to account for, so if you do use this, then it is just another adjustment you have to make to the "ball-park estimate").

Hypothetical Example using the above method ("Strongest Team" vs "Weakest Team"):

1) Pretend SF is playing HOU this week, whether they are or aren't (I haven't checked)
2) SF = 72.75%, and HOU = 31.37%, "Expected win %"
3) SF = 11.64, and HOU = 5.02
4) 11.64 - 5.02 = 6.62.
5a) 6.62 x 2 = 13.24 = +13.24
5b) -13.24
6) I will use 0 for this game, since it is just a "hypothetical game".

Therefore, the "ball-park estimate" for SF should have them as a 13 to 13.5 point favorite when playing against HOU, (using the above figures).
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January 5th, 2023 at 2:51:53 PM permalink
Already had the bet:
xxx: 3.2 units Jaguars -5.5 @ $1.84

Want / Wanted:
x: 2 units on Chiefs Under 52.5 @ $1.9, but got limited to win about $250*** .
xxx: 3 units on the Raiders +9.5 @ $1.9, not on yet, as it is only available at the "betting shop" (so I can go in about an hour from now, and hope it is still available).

***: That 'book has effectively "barred my business", so I won't bet there from now on.

Note 1a): Before I did any of my "own work", I had ~$5k on the Chiefs' @ $1.28 / ~ -357, because the "market average" was about $1.22 / ~ -455 for them at the ML.
Note 1b): This bet won't count towards the "official results", but in "real money terms" the best result will be if Chiefs' win and the Raiders' Cover (if I manage to get on @ +7.5, or better).
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January 5th, 2023 at 3:21:16 PM permalink
I try to follow your bets…. But when you add a ‘wanted to’ …. I kinda stop paying attention.
I think if you just put the bets you actually make, and count them all, that will make your results clear.
I don’t care if you post some of the bets after the game. If someone wants to think you are making shit up, who cares?

I think I post most of my bets after the games. If someone thinks I’m making stuff up, that’s fine by me.
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January 5th, 2023 at 3:26:13 PM permalink
Wanted:
xxx: 3.2 units on TCU +13.5 @ $1.85
Got:
1.6 units at the above odds and
to win about $250 on TCU +9.5 @ $1.70, in the first half.

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. There are two 'books now that seem to limit my business significantly. : (
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January 5th, 2023 at 3:31:08 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I try to follow your bets…. But when you add a ‘wanted to’ …. I kinda stop paying attention.
I think if you just put the bets you actually make, and count them all, that will make your results clear.
I don’t care if you post some of the bets after the game. If someone wants to think you are making shit up, who cares?

I think I post most of my bets after the games. If someone thinks I’m making stuff up, that’s fine by me.
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Ok, but it doesn't stop them from being "xxx " or whatever I happen to grade them (even though they are being significantly reduced by the 'book, from what I wanted to bet).
I also try to post them as early as possible (if I remember to, at least) so if other people want to follow and bet, then they have more time to get on.

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Update (~1800, Pac Time):

Got on LVR for $3k @ $1.90, as it is still an "xxx bet" (IMO, the line should be closer to ~ +6.5).

Below is a link to a screenshot of the bet (I will leave it up for as long as I want, but at least 24 hours)

Raiders + 9.0

Note 1: It is a "cash ticket", so it is " harder for them to limit me ".
Note 2: From now on I can only get on with them for decent amounts (and sometimes Pinnacle, even though doing that is a lot harder for me) so I will probably post my actual bet amounts next season (if I continue doing this, that is).
Note 3: The bet was made in Australia, that is why it says that the game will be played on "Sun 08 / 01 ".
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January 6th, 2023 at 1:28:14 AM permalink
Currently there are eight teams with a chance of making one of the last three playoff berths.
See the info in the link here to get a rough idea of each teams' chances of making the playoffs, 1st round bye, etc.
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January 6th, 2023 at 1:30:14 PM permalink
xxx: $2k on Tampa Bay @ $2.82 ML and
$200 on them -3.5 @ $4.05

Note 1: Two main indicators I use to adjust my bet-size are against me on this (like "smart money", "big bets / $ ") but this is one of the "rare times" that I haven't adjusted my bet down to a lower rating (when those types of situations' occur).
Note 2a: Since I can pretty much only get on with one 'book (the "betting shop") I have decided to make it easier for myself and post the $ amounts from this week on.
Note 2b: I will convert the results from units to $, in the next result summary.
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January 6th, 2023 at 2:02:00 PM permalink
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xxx: $2k on Tampa Bay @ $2.82 ML and
$200 on them -3.5 @ $4.05

Note 1: Two main indicators I use to adjust my bet-size are against me on this (like "smart money", "big bets / $ ") but this is one of the "rare times" that I haven't adjusted my bet down to a lower rating (when those types of situations' occur).
Note 2a: Since I can pretty much only get on with one 'book (the "betting shop") I have decided to make it easier for myself and post the $ amounts from this week on.
Note 2b: I will convert the results from units to $, in the next result summary.
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I frankly have no idea how to even guess on a game involving two teams playing for absolutely nothing. I think TB will essentially forfeit the game. If they lose 100-0 it means nothing. If they lose a meaningful player Todd Bowles may get fired.
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January 6th, 2023 at 2:46:59 PM permalink
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Quote: ksdjdj

xxx: $2k on Tampa Bay @ $2.82 ML and
$200 on them -3.5 @ $4.05

Note 1: Two main indicators I use to adjust my bet-size are against me on this (like "smart money", "big bets / $ ") but this is one of the "rare times" that I haven't adjusted my bet down to a lower rating (when those types of situations' occur).
Note 2a: Since I can pretty much only get on with one 'book (the "betting shop") I have decided to make it easier for myself and post the $ amounts from this week on.
Note 2b: I will convert the results from units to $, in the next result summary.
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I frankly have no idea how to even guess on a game involving two teams playing for absolutely nothing. I think TB will essentially forfeit the game. If they lose 100-0 it means nothing. If they lose a meaningful player Todd Bowles may get fired.
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I suspect that is why the "smart money" etc is on the Falcons.

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Extra:
Positive(s) (IMO):
. On paper I have the match-up close to a "pick 'em".
. This can potentially be Toms' first losing regular season as a starter (if I am reading the records correctly?).
. Todd Bowles is planning to " play all of his (healthy) starters' " (but I will look like an idiot if he pulls the "old switcheroo", and decides to sit at least some of them out).

Negative(s):
. Bucs' defenders' have generally faded in the 2nd half (maybe the first half odds of ~$2.25 on TB were a better bet?).
. Because of this they haven't closed out a lot of games "very well" (eg blown "a few leads", and things of that nature).

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Update (made a few edits, a bit before 1500, Pac Time)
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I am going to lay the 12.5 with Georgia in the championship.
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xxx: $2k on Tampa Bay @ $2.82 ML and
$200 on them -3.5 @ $4.05

Note 1: Two main indicators I use to adjust my bet-size are against me on this (like "smart money", "big bets / $ ") but this is one of the "rare times" that I haven't adjusted my bet down to a lower rating (when those types of situations' occur).
Note 2a: Since I can pretty much only get on with one 'book (the "betting shop") I have decided to make it easier for myself and post the $ amounts from this week on.
Note 2b: I will convert the results from units to $, in the next result summary.
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I frankly have no idea how to even guess on a game involving two teams playing for absolutely nothing. I think TB will essentially forfeit the game. If they lose 100-0 it means nothing. If they lose a meaningful player Todd Bowles may get fired.
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I suspect that is why the "smart money" etc is on the Falcons.

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Extra:
Positive(s) (IMO):
. On paper I have the match-up close to a "pick 'em".
. This can potentially be Toms' first losing regular season as a starter (if I am reading the records correctly?).
. Todd Bowles is planning to " play all of his (healthy) starters' " (but I will look like an idiot if he pulls the "old switcheroo", and decides to sit at least some of them out).

Negative(s):
. Bucs' defenders' have generally faded in the 2nd half (maybe the first half odds of ~$2.25 on TB were a better bet?).
. Because of this they haven't closed out a lot of games "very well" (eg blown "a few leads", and things of that nature).

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Update (made a few edits, a bit before 1500, Pac Time)
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You never can know for sure, but apparently there are minor injuries to major offensive linemen for the Bucs. And the backups suck. So you aren’t going to want Brady playing with sub par offensive linemen. Maybe he plays one series just handing the ball off.

It’s not like the Falcons are good though….

As far as DRich and the natty, I have TCU +13.5 from when the line came out. Final score….. Georgia 40, TCU 27.
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January 6th, 2023 at 7:43:04 PM permalink
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I am going to lay the 12.5 with Georgia in the championship.
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I took over 62.5
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Chiefs' game/1st half :$2k under 24.5 @ $2.08
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Chiefs' game/1st half :$2k under 24.5 @ $2.08
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I like that bet a lot. Therefore it is probably a bad bet.
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Chiefs' game/1st half :$2k under 24.5 @ $2.08
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I like that bet a lot. Therefore it is probably a bad bet.
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Under "looking good".
KC scored a TD in a bit over 2 minutes of play, in the opening drive.

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Update (after HT):
Sorry, I should have bet "Chiefs' under 24.5 ".
Bet was looking "ok" at one stage late in the 2nd Q, but eventually : (

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Comment(s):
. Chiefs' probably looked at how bad they have been covering ATS this season, so now they are "making up for it".
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January 7th, 2023 at 3:13:13 PM permalink
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Already had the bet:
xxx: 3.2 units Jaguars -5.5 @ $1.84
(snip)
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Had another bet of $800 on the Jags' -6.5 @ $1.95.

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Comment(s)r:
. Even if all the bets I have made so far this week lose , I am still $75k - $80k up, since the start of this football season.
. Got a total of $7k on the Chiefs' +1.5 @ $1.28 (average odds) so not "too bad" if they win (though it will be a nice result if the Raiders' manage to still lose, but cover ATS).
. "Not afraid" to make these kinds of comments, because I can only get on with the "betting shop" easily, from now on .

. (Didn't watch the game): The Raiders' went well against the 49ers' defense last week, but the Chiefs' D are "giving them a hard time" in the 1st half (WTH?) lol.

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Update (1630, Pac Time):
Jags' game: Had $480 on the over 51.5 @ $5.25.

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Update 2 (after game):
Lost about $2800### today in "real money" terms.

###: I took $3k on the Jag's @ HT +2.5, to win $3k.
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January 7th, 2023 at 11:06:31 PM permalink
"TL;DR" version / "what I actually had":

$4k on the Jets +3.5 @ $1.76, in the 1st Half.
$400 on the Jets -5.5 @ $5.1

$4k on the Rams +6.5 @ $1.85

$2k on the Browns +2.5 @ $2
$600 on the Browns -5.5 @ $3.95

$400 Giants +1.5 @ $10

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Extra:

" Grade" (where applicable):

xxx: Jets +3.5 @ $1.90
xx: Rams +6.5 @ $1.85
x: Browns +2.5 @ $2.00

Special / "no grade": Giants "looked good" +1.5 @ $10, when compared to the best ML with various 'books, at the time of my bet (~2 hours ago).

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Bucs' Game Update:

I am getting conflicting reports about the Bucs' (in terms of certain starters' being played or not***) so if I were to have the bet now, it would be x grade (was xxx).

***: At the time of this post, the Coach is still saying something like "yes, I plan to start them", and other people I trust are saying "they probably won't send them out".
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***: At the time of this post, the Coach is still saying something like "yes, I plan to start them", and other people I trust are saying "they probably won't send them out".



I would not be surprised if they played a couple of series to start the game.
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***: At the time of this post, the Coach is still saying something like "yes, I plan to start them", and other people I trust are saying "they probably won't send them out".



I would not be surprised if they played a couple of series to start the game.
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Just woke up, but it is not "looking good":
. Score was 17-10 to the Bucs' at HT, now it is 17-13 with Falcons' on the TB 6 yard line.
. B Gabbert has been in for Brady for a while, if he was in the whole game, I would make whatever I thought was a "fair line" with Brady @ 38% instead of "50/50" (so in other words, I wouldn't have had the bet)..
. Falcons' just scored a TD, so 17-20 to them.
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January 8th, 2023 at 12:56:55 PM permalink
xx: $6250 on the Cowboys' +1.5 @ $1.32.

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Update (~1650, Pac Time):

xxx: $5k on the Packers' -5 @ $1.90

"special": $10k on the Packers' +1.5 @ $1.40, with "the plan being to bet / hedge all the winnings into the Lions, if I get a favorable price, live".
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January 13th, 2023 at 10:45:54 PM permalink
Sorry that I have been away for about a week (been sick).

Anyway below are my raw figures / "estimates" and bet(s) for the 49ers' game:

Estimates, IMO the "50/50" markets should be: -9.0 / 49ers' , and 41/ total.

Bet(s):
x grade: to win $5k on the "49ers -9.5 x Under 44.5" @ +270 (so I had ~ $1,852 on them).

Other:
Like the Seahawks ML of +400, but still feeling too sick to drive and make the bet (would be x grade as well).

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Extra:
After I started working and doing this post, I got really tired again, so won't be doing the other games until tomorrow (if I do get around to them) sorry.

I will update the results summary etc, when I get a chance (maybe after Wild Card Weekend).
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Sorry that I have been away for about a week (been sick).

Anyway below are my raw figures / "estimates" and bet(s) for the 49ers' game:

Estimates, IMO the "50/50" markets should be: -9.0 / 49ers' , and 41/ total.

Bet(s):
x grade: to win $5k on the "49ers -9.5 x Under 44.5" @ +270 (so I had ~ $1,852 on them).

Other:
Like the Seahawks ML of +400, but still feeling too sick to drive and make the bet (would be x grade as well).

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Extra:
After I started working and doing this post, I got really tired again, so won't be doing the other games until tomorrow (if I do get around to them) sorry.

I will update the results summary etc, when I get a chance (maybe after Wild Card Weekend).
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If I remember correctly, the big favorite (49ers) ‘generally’ should be paired with the over, not under? Ok, I’ll give you 49ers 27, Seahawks 17. (But really feeling 49ers 34, Seahawks 20).
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January 14th, 2023 at 8:38:46 AM permalink
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If I remember correctly, the big favorite (49ers) ‘generally’ should be paired with the over, not under? Ok, I’ll give you 49ers 27, Seahawks 17. (But really feeling 49ers 34, Seahawks 20).
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I think you guys are being generous. I don't envision the Seahawks scoring much at all.
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That field was horrible when the Giants played there, and it looks like it will be played in a driving rainstorm. Should be fun
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Just had $4k on the Jags' +2.5 @ $1.90.

$5.5k on the 49ers -9.5 @ $1.95^^^

^^^: Betfair odds after commission (like the bet below) also I know what I said about the game in my previous post, but a lot can change in the"short-ish" amount of time, between posts.

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Super Bowl:

Also backed the "Field" against KC to win the SB @ ~ -358 (lose $11,900 or win $3,325*** )

***: Wager made on Betfair, so this amount is after their 5% commission on potential winnings.

Comment(s):
. Even though they still deserve a short price (in other words should be one of the favorites) I think KC are "over-hyped" , because most of the focus is on a "great offence" (still no 1 overall ?) vs a lot less focus on a "middling defense".

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Update (just after the 49ers first TD):

Really like the "live odds" under 46.5 @ $1.90, but can't take it since the "shop" isn't open for me until the next game starts.
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(snip)
Update (just after the 49ers first TD):

Really like the "live odds" under 46.5 @ $1.90, but can't take it since the "shop" isn't open for me until the next game starts.
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HT Update:

Glad this game wasn't played in the latter time slot, as the HT score is 33.
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If I remember correctly, the big favorite (49ers) ‘generally’ should be paired with the over, not under? Ok, I’ll give you 49ers 27, Seahawks 17. (But really feeling 49ers 34, Seahawks 20).
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I think you guys are being generous. I don't envision the Seahawks scoring much at all.
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You need to ‘re-invision’. I need a FG from each team to hit my score exactly. But the over is already done. I don’t think Seattle tries for any more FGs down 14.

49ers are for real. Only QB in NFL history to start career 5-0 with two TD tosses in each game. But they certainly don’t look unbeatable. I think they are a point or two underdog in Philly. But f that game comes to pass…..
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Summary of bets on the Jags' (some may be repeats from earlier post(s) ):

$4k +2.5 @ $1.90
$800 -5.5 @ $3.50
$7.5k @ $2.2 ML^^^ (the plan is to try and lay all of that back @ ~ $1.30, if they are up by 10 early)

^^^: Even though this bet was on Betfair, I wrote it like this because I plan to chop it out if possible, otherwise the price will be $2.14 after the com (if the bet still wins).

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Ht update:

Chargers’ should still be up by dbl digits, but there are a few missed calls that are also hurting the Jaguars’ .

Sent from phone
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January 14th, 2023 at 10:37:33 PM permalink
Draft result for the previous week (mainly from memory, so there could be errors?):
College / NFL / live or non-graded (other)Bet / Option$ Won / Lost
College xxx = 1.6 units on TCU +13.5 @ $1.85 -1600
College $250 on TCU +9.5 @ $1.70, in the first half. -250
NFLxxx: 3.2 units Jaguars -5.5 @ $1.84 -3200.000
--------x = Chiefs Under 52.5 @ $1.9, but got limited to win about $250250.000
-------- LVR for $3k @ $1.90, @ +9.0-3000.000
--------X: $2.2k on Tampa Bay (various)-2200.000
--------xxx: $5k on the Packers' -5 @ $1.90 -5000.000
--------$2.6k Browns' game +2.5 and -5.5 (various)-2600.000
NFL$4k on the Rams +6.5 @ $1.85 3400.000
Other$4k on the Jets +3.5 @ $1.76, in the 1st Half. 3040.000
--------Jags' game: Had $480 on the over 51.5 @ $5.25. -480.000
--------10k on the Packers' +1.5 @ $1.40-10000.000
--------$2.5k on the Lions $5.00 ML10000.000
-------- $3k on the Jag's @ HT +2.5, to win $3k 3000.000
--------$7k on the Chiefs' @ $1.28 1960.000
OtherChiefs' game/1st half :$2k under 24.5 @ $2.08 -2000.000
--------Total For Period-8680.000


Current Results (in $ now, and the foreseeable future):

NCAAF:
Turnover (Total bet, so far): 272,205
Profit: 3,598
"Profit on Turnover": 1.32...%

NFL:
Turnover (Total bet, so far): 165,138
Profit: 13,459
"Profit on Turnover": 8.15...%

"Live and Other Bets...":
Turnover (Total bet, so far): 34,980
Profit: 2,020
"Profit on Turnover": 5.77...%

Combined:
Turnover (Total bet, so far): 472,323
Profit: 19,077
"Profit on Turnover": 4.03...%

Note / Reminder: I am pretty sure that I said I would convert this to $'s, in a previous post.
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January 14th, 2023 at 10:47:03 PM permalink
xxx: $5500 on the Giants' +3.5 @ $1.74

other bets:
$900 on the " Bengals -5.5 and Under 44.5 " @ $3.30
~$600 on the " Bills -10.5 and Under 44.5 " @ $4.15

Note: Only had the "other bets" because of the "stale lines", so that is why I couldn't get on for as much as I would have liked.
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January 15th, 2023 at 7:18:42 AM permalink
I fell asleep last night when the Chargers were up 27-0. I was a little surprised when I saw the score this morning.
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January 15th, 2023 at 8:54:23 AM permalink
I sort of watched the first half but really it was just background noise that I'd look up at after each score.I was taping the game and tuned in at 27-7, but the first play I saw live made it 27-14, and I watched the rest live. Friday night, I watched the last five minutes of last years Buffalo- KC game and it still brings a thrill to me.
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January 15th, 2023 at 2:14:22 PM permalink
. Looking good for the “over punters” this weekend.
. 14 pts scored in less than 10 minutes in the Giants game.
. Luckily I didn’t do any work on the totals this week, because more than 1/2 the time I think/ “find value” on the under.
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