General Sports Talk

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if you bet both sides on a spread bet you only win money overall if the side with your money wins

if the side with the deposit match wins and the side with your money loses then you lose a small amount - the vig

you guys don't think the deposit match is like cash do you?

it's just a betting credit


deposit $3k and bet $3k on team A at -5 and lose

win the deposit match bet on team B at +5

you're paid back $2,727.27 on your deposit match bet - that's all that is now in your account - you lost $272.73 -



from the Draft King rules for free bets (deposit matches) see link

"when you win a bet for which you have used a Free Bet, only the prize amount of that bet will be returned to your wallet. Any Free Bet values used are not included in settlement returns"


https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/help/freebets-and-promotions/freebets-and-promotions?wpsrc=Organic%20Search&wpaffn=Google&wpkw=https%3A%2F%2Fsportsbook.draftkings.com%2Fhelp%2Ffreebets-and-promotions%2Ffreebets-and-promotions&wpcn=help&wpscn=freebets-and-promotions%2Ffreebets-and-promotions


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My big bet for the day. Parlay Zeke Elliott over 46.5 yards rushing. With Cowboys -3. (I am not sure if they allow that parlay…. but this is a make believe bet anyway).

By the way, spell check changed Zeke to ‘Zelenograd’! WTF?

Unless someone knows something that I don’t (VERY POSSIBLE!) Zeke over 46.5 seems highly +EV.

Reminder, I’m correct on these type picks around 49% of the time…

LilRedRooster,

I might not have been clear enough, but you’re playing two different promotions at the same time, or playing one promotion with a confederate playing the same promotion

Assuming both are -110 lines, you’re depositing $1000 (or $3000) at each or you and the confederate each. The bet that wins has a balance of roughly $1909 cash and the side that loses gets the $1,000 free bet—-which yes—-I know only pays to the extent of winnings.

The free bet side bets the $1,000 free bet, the side with $1909 cash makes something like a $475 cash bet.

Regardless of the result, the net profit (between the two) is whatever my other post said…$340 something. $2,000 deposited in total and just over $2,340 between the two when done…100% guaranteed with the only variable being the minus lines might not always both be -110.

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okay, Mission - I got it -

this way seems good to me - if you don't have a confederate

take your best shots with the $3k on 60 games - 30 bets of $100 with your money - and 30 bets of $100 on the deposit match - referring to spread bets paying out at -110

assuming just average 50% winners

you'll end up with $2,727.27 in the bets with your money

and $1,363.50 in winnings from your deposit match bets

you deposited $3k - but you know have $4,090.77


it's not guaranteed of course - you might get crushed or do a little worse than 50% winners or you might do a little or a lot better

basically, in a non guaranteed way - they gave you almost $1,100


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The sports promotions are not usually deposit matches; they function more like loss rebates. Is the 3k Caesars a straight match? That would be unusual.

Quote: Mission146

The sports promotions are not usually deposit matches; they function more like loss rebates. Is the 3k Caesars a straight match? That would be unusual.
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I see that the Caesars one is, that’s phenomenal. You’re going to want to take an extremely good look at any T&C as there might be something on having to bet it through so many times; I’ll take a look at that in a minute.

The other ones are more like loss rebates.

Caesars was the casino that I know of refusing to give the free bet once in a different state with the offsetting, so don’t know if I would try that with a confederate, but if you did want to try it, the Super Bowl would probably be a good game to do it.

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The sports promotions are not usually deposit matches; they function more like loss rebates. Is the 3k Caesars a straight match? That would be unusual.
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all I know is that is what it said in the link - which I put here again - it used the language both "free bet" and "deposit match"

if somebody wants to call them and get it confirmed that would be great - I would do it - but I'm feeling lazy
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https://www.amny.com/sports/ny-sports-betting-enters-second-week/

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Also, with Caesars and the bonus, you could do a cash partial offset bet at a physical sportsbook somewhere if you could get the same line and should be able to guarantee pretty big profits that way and they’d have no way of suspecting anything.

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Quote: Mission146

The sports promotions are not usually deposit matches; they function more like loss rebates. Is the 3k Caesars a straight match? That would be unusual.
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all I know is that is what it said in the link - which I put here again - it used the language both "free bet" and "deposit match"

if somebody wants to call them and get it confirmed that would be great - I would do it - but I'm feeling lazy
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https://www.amny.com/sports/ny-sports-betting-enters-second-week/

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Okay, I've got the Terms & Conditions up now:

You have to make your deposit to be matched within three days of setting up the account for it to qualify, so make sure that you're prepared to do that; you also probably have to use the code which will either be put in chat or there will be a place to put it when you make the deposit.

The bonus funds will be added to your account (in theory, it is Caesars online, after all) within 48 hours.

The odds for the bonus funds to count must be -300, or longer, so -250 is fine and -400 would not be fine.

You must NOT have done any other Caesars Sportsbook promotions, which is to include such sites as William Hill NJ or William Hill MI. If you've done Caesars Online PA, then I would call or Live Chat with them to make sure that's fine (and preferably having any Live Chat log E-Mailed to you) before making any deposits.

All Bonus Cash must be wagered within thirty days or will be forfeited.

It appears that the Bonus Funds ONLY have to be bet through 1x according to this page:

https://www.williamhill.com/us/ny/bet/promos/match-3k

And, you do not even have to playthrough the deposit.

That being the case, what I would look to do is take the $3,000 Bonus Funds, which are derived from a $3,000 deposit and then pick a half point line that matches one at a physical sportsbook somewhere outside of New York. Even if you don't get there before the line changes, you should be able to buy or sell points.

If the lines are -110, then what you are going to look at is:

Deposit: $3000, Bonus: $3,000, Amount Bet: $3,000

Okay, so for now I assume that this is treated as an actual bet where you get the original bet amount AND the winnings (you can simulate making a bet on the site to make sure of this and adjust if not), so with -110 lines you are looking at return:

3000 + (3000 * 100/110) = $5727.27 if the bet wins.

Add that to the original $3,000 deposited (and this isn't counting the free $300 they just give you in bonus) and you are at $8,727.27. If you get the free $300, that will also have to be bet before you can withdraw as all Bonus Funds must be bet before you ma withdraw.

Okay, so your profits on a winning bet would be, good lord, $5,727.27. That's nice.

Of course, you could always guarantee money rather than 50/50 between $0 gained and $5,727.27 gained. As we know, your balance will be exactly $3,000 (ignoring the free $300 bonus) if you lose the bet with Bonus Funds, so we are looking at $5,727.27 and trying to get the closest guarantee amount.

Okay, so that's actually easy. You will want to make an offsetting half point line bet with $3,000 bet at a physical sportsbook. Basically, if you win on your Caesars Bonus Bet this happens:

3000 + (3000 * 100/110) = $5,727.27 + $3000 (original Caesars deposit) = $8727.27 - $3000 (Cash Bet Lost) = $5727.27

In other words, you have a Caesars balance of $8727.27 of which $3,000 is what you started with and lost a $3,000 cash wager at a physical casino for total profits of $2727.27.

If your cash bet wins, then Caesars is just the original $3,000 you deposited and the $300 extra bonus funds and the cash bet does:

3000 * 100/110 = $2727.27 + $3000 = $5727.27...so you have a bet ticket at the physical casino that you will cash out for $5727.27 and $3,000 original deposit at Caesars for total profits of $2727.27.

Therefore, assuming same half point line and -110 on each side of that line, you are guaranteed to profit exactly $2727.27. Nice! I'd just do that.

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Okay, I've got the Terms & Conditions up now:

You have to make your deposit to be matched within three days of setting up the account for it to qualify, so make sure that you're prepared to do that; you also probably have to use the code which will either be put in chat or there will be a place to put it when you make the deposit.

The bonus funds will be added to your account (in theory, it is Caesars online, after all) within 48 hours.

The odds for the bonus funds to count must be -300, or longer, so -250 is fine and -400 would not be fine.

You must NOT have done any other Caesars Sportsbook promotions, which is to include such sites as William Hill NJ or William Hill MI. If you've done Caesars Online PA, then I would call or Live Chat with them to make sure that's fine (and preferably having any Live Chat log E-Mailed to you) before making any deposits.

All Bonus Cash must be wagered within thirty days or will be forfeited.

It appears that the Bonus Funds ONLY have to be bet through 1x according to this page:

https://www.williamhill.com/us/ny/bet/promos/match-3k

And, you do not even have to playthrough the deposit.

That being the case, what I would look to do is take the $3,000 Bonus Funds, which are derived from a $3,000 deposit and then pick a half point line that matches one at a physical sportsbook somewhere outside of New York. Even if you don't get there before the line changes, you should be able to buy or sell points.

If the lines are -110, then what you are going to look at is:

Deposit: $3000, Bonus: $3,000, Amount Bet: $3,000

Okay, so for now I assume that this is treated as an actual bet where you get the original bet amount AND the winnings (you can simulate making a bet on the site to make sure of this and adjust if not), so with -110 lines you are looking at return:

3000 + (3000 * 100/110) = $5727.27 if the bet wins.

Add that to the original $3,000 deposited (and this isn't counting the free $300 they just give you in bonus) and you are at $8,727.27. If you get the free $300, that will also have to be bet before you can withdraw as all Bonus Funds must be bet before you ma withdraw.

Okay, so your profits on a winning bet would be, good lord, $5,727.27. That's nice.

Of course, you could always guarantee money rather than 50/50 between $0 gained and $5,727.27 gained. As we know, your balance will be exactly $3,000 (ignoring the free $300 bonus) if you lose the bet with Bonus Funds, so we are looking at $5,727.27 and trying to get the closest guarantee amount.

Okay, so that's actually easy. You will want to make an offsetting half point line bet with $3,000 bet at a physical sportsbook. Basically, if you win on your Caesars Bonus Bet this happens:

3000 + (3000 * 100/110) = $5,727.27 + $3000 (original Caesars deposit) = $8727.27 - $3000 (Cash Bet Lost) = $5727.27

In other words, you have a Caesars balance of $8727.27 of which $3,000 is what you started with and lost a $3,000 cash wager at a physical casino for total profits of $2727.27.

If your cash bet wins, then Caesars is just the original $3,000 you deposited and the $300 extra bonus funds and the cash bet does:

3000 * 100/110 = $2727.27 + $3000 = $5727.27...so you have a bet ticket at the physical casino that you will cash out for $5727.27 and $3,000 original deposit at Caesars for total profits of $2727.27.

Therefore, assuming same half point line and -110 on each side of that line, you are guaranteed to profit exactly $2727.27. Nice! I'd just do that.
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Mission takes the cake when it comes to schemes to lower variance, you have to realize that. What's kind of funny is, the gambling sites hate what he suggests here and would not pay you if you got caught. Yet I'm pretty sure it is true that this thing of working with a confederate would cost them nothing [nothing extra] in the long run even if everyone did it. It would all even out, no? I suppose they could make a case that they discourage APs, or eliminate some when they catch this. 

I think I was wrong on pretty much ALL of my wild card weekend thoughts. I would have had Dallas as my best bet. I thought Pats keep it close with Bills. I thought Bucs without FOUR of their offensive weapons would not be able to score big on Philly.

Sadly, I think the Bills should beat the Chiefs next weekend.

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I think I was wrong on pretty much ALL of my wild card weekend thoughts. I would have had Dallas as my best bet. I thought Pats keep it close with Bills. I thought Bucs without FOUR of their offensive weapons would not be able to score big on Philly.

Sadly, I think the Bills should beat the Chiefs next weekend.
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Are you prepared to perform some folding table wrestling moves?

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I think I was wrong on pretty much ALL of my wild card weekend thoughts. I would have had Dallas as my best bet. I thought Pats keep it close with Bills. I thought Bucs without FOUR of their offensive weapons would not be able to score big on Philly.

Sadly, I think the Bills should beat the Chiefs next weekend.
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I think you may be wrong on that as well.

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Mission takes the cake when it comes to schemes to lower variance, you have to realize that. What's kind of funny is, the gambling sites hate what he suggests here and would not pay you if you got caught. Yet I'm pretty sure it is true that this thing of working with a confederate would cost them nothing [nothing extra] in the long run even if everyone did it. It would all even out, no? I suppose they could make a case that they discourage APs, or eliminate some when they catch this. 
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Thank you; I really appreciate you saying that!

I think the bigger problem for the websites is that anyone who is doing the method as I describe is almost certainly walking with the money and is not inclined to make any sports bets without some sort of promotion in place giving an expectation of profit.

Anyway, the, 'Scheme,' actually reduces the expected profit a bit because you're making bets (and eating vig) that you would not otherwise do, but it reduces the variance to nothing. The sites don't really care about the promotions being +EV for players, they know that they will be; they just know that most players are going to more than balance that out by continuing to bet after the promotion is all done. Many will bet their entire balance, including deposit, down to nothing even if they win the first one.

It would be almost as if a card counter came into your casino, but he was also a total -EV slots junkie. He could count all day at +1% EV, or whatever it would be, if I know he is going to lose all that value and more (as well as, generally, actual cash) on the slots.

The nice thing with online is I would hope that even recreational players could be more disciplined than they might with other things---more than anything, my advice is meant for people who just want to lock up guaranteed profits and ESPECIALLY if they don't normally bet sports anyway. Get in, get the money, get out.

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pretty bizarre - Bucs coach Arians slaps his own player on the head (helmet) and is getting fined - you can see it at 1:17 in the vid

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjnOQkU3tf4

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/01/19/bruce-arians-fined/


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Derrick Henry O/U is 85.5. I bet the under. He has not run in a game in months after needing screws in one of his feet. I am generally correct on 49% of these picks…. I thought the O/U would have been around 70

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Joe Burrow was sacked 9 times and he and the Bengals still got the W_________________incredible


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Quote: SOOPOO

Derrick Henry O/U is 85.5. I bet the under. He has not run in a game in months after needing screws in one of his feet. I am generally correct on 49% of these picks…. I thought the O/U would have been around 70
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Derrick Henry looked below average. He ran 20 times for 62 yards. His backup ran 4 times for 60 yards. That’s $10 for me!

Tennessee has to be NOT HAPPY to have Ryan Tannehill under contract for the next few years. He was below average as well. Now if Bills upset Chiefs tomorrow they get HOME game against Bengals. Could be our 5th Super Bowl (loss).

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Derrick Henry O/U is 85.5. I bet the under. He has not run in a game in months after needing screws in one of his feet. I am generally correct on 49% of these picks…. I thought the O/U would have been around 70
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Derrick Henry looked below average. He ran 20 times for 62 yards. His backup ran 4 times for 60 yards. That’s $10 for me!

Tennessee has to be NOT HAPPY to have Ryan Tannehill under contract for the next few years. He was below average as well. Now if Bills upset Chiefs tomorrow they get HOME game against Bengals. Could be our 5th Super Bowl (loss).
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Looking at Tannehill’s contract next year is the make or break year. After next year 18.8 million dead cap, 36.6 total cap hit so they can get off it if they don’t think he’s worth 18 million. He’s been good last two seasons, this year was not.

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Could be our 5th Super Bowl (loss).

is it true that they put suicide nets under the Rainbow Bridge when the Bills play in the SuperBowl_____________?________________(-:\





the Pack had only 10 men on the field when they lost to a winning field goal kick
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The NFL really needs to rename this weeks games. Calling them the divisional championship makes no sense. The Bengals won, but are not the division champions. The Titans lost the game but are Division champions. Why they can't call them the Conference semi-finals is beyond me

I've always maintained that point, though I should point out that the Bengals are the champions of the AFC North.

My argument is more along the lines of who are or are not division champions has already been decided, furthermore, two teams in the same division do not play each other in this round the better part of the time...though they sometimes do.

So, if someone says the name is because it decides who from a given division advances that's usually false, and if they say it is to decide which divisions advance, that is sometimes false.

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The NFL really needs to rename this weeks games. Calling them the divisional championship makes no sense. The Bengals won, but are not the division champions. The Titans lost the game but are Division champions. Why they can't call them the Conference semi-finals is beyond me
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I have never heard it called "Divisional Championship" I always heard it called "Divisional Playoff" or "Divisional Round."

You have a bit of a point that "Conference Semi-Finals" is more descriptive but it is less exciting IMHO. Calling it "Divisional Playoff" goes back to when that is who played, the Divisional leaders. But it is what it is.

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if I was an NFL GM I would hire a 7 foot college b-ball player who didn't make the NBA to block punts and field goals and extra points

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Quote: Mission146

I've always maintained that point, though I should point out that the Bengals are the champions of the AFC North.

My argument is more along the lines of who are or are not division champions has already been decided, furthermore, two teams in the same division do not play each other in this round the better part of the time...though they sometimes do.

So, if someone says the name is because it decides who from a given division advances that's usually false, and if they say it is to decide which divisions advance, that is sometimes false.
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l think ot goes back to when only the Wild Card teams played on Wild Card Weekend, and then the next week, all the divisional winners (and the winning wild cards) played on the following (Divisional) weekend.

But yeah, these days it doesn't make much sense to still call it that.

The Conference Semi-Finals would work better.

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if I was an NFL GM I would hire a 7 foot college b-ball player who didn't make the NBA to block punts and field goals and extra points

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"Goal tending" or putting a player in the endzone to block is illegal. Not sure it would be worth a specialty player on the line.

This is kind of like my idea of finding some 400lb guy to just sit in front of a NHL hockey goal.

Washington Admirals is being leaked as the new name of the Washington Football team due to be made public next week. I get it, a nod to the navy, with Annapolis nearby and headquartered in the pentagon and all, but just seems very generic and boring. better than "the football team" I guess.

I suppose Washington Generals was already taken.

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Washington Admirals is being leaked as the new name of the Washington Football team due to be made public next week. I get it, a nod to the navy, with Annapolis nearby and headquartered in the pentagon and all, but just seems very generic and boring. better than "the football team" I guess.
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on January 13 you posted this:

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So returning from my most recent 7 day suspension, I want to announce that I won't be participating here or any other forum for a good long while. I don't know if it will be 6 months or a year or forever. This is due to events

and you continue______________yada -yada - yada

don't get me wrong - I'm not against you posting here - and I'm not among the anti KJ crowd - your posts are often worth reading

but you do seem to give them ammunition

I do wonder why you post stuff that obviously is not accurate info - and many know that it's not even close to being the first time you've done this


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Quote: kewlj

Washington Admirals is being leaked as the new name of the Washington Football team due to be made public next week. I get it, a nod to the navy, with Annapolis nearby and headquartered in the pentagon and all, but just seems very generic and boring. better than "the football team" I guess.
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on January 13 you posted this:

Quote: kewlj

So returning from my most recent 7 day suspension, I want to announce that I won't be participating here or any other forum for a good long while. I don't know if it will be 6 months or a year or forever. This is due to events

and you continue______________yada -yada - yada

don't get me wrong - I'm not against you posting here - and I'm not among the anti KJ crowd - your posts are often worth reading

but you do seem to give them ammunition

I do wonder why you post stuff that obviously is not accurate info - and many know that it's not even close to being the first time you've done this


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I can summarize it for you. He changed his mind. I’m glad he is back.

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I can summarize it for you. He changed his mind. I’m glad he is back.

I'm glad you're glad

I'll summarize it for you

a person shouldn't make a post like that - full of incendiary stuff that I did not quote in my OP

unless that person is sure of what they're posting - which he obviously was not

and maybe shouldn't even be posted even if he was sure - it falls into the who cares category - post or don't post

the guy didn't post here between February 29, 2016 and May 30th, 2020 - was anybody brokenhearted because of that?

unnecessary drama - it impugns the value of this person's posts and diminishes the forum


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I suppose Washington Generals was already taken.
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Of course it is, but they did beat the Harlem Globetrotters in 1971.

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I suppose Washington Generals was already taken.
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Of course it is, but they did beat the Harlem Globetrotters in 1971.
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here's a pic of that great Generals team that beat the Trotters
the little guy, no. 3 in the front row is Red Klotz - all 5'6" of him
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The first year the Nets played in the NBA, they were on pace to break the league record for fewest wins. They'd been forced to sell the great Dr. J in order to join the NBA and their only remaining star, Tiny Archibald, went out early in the season with a career threatening knee injury.
Roy Boe, the owner, realized he was in over his head and would have to sell the team but wanted to have some fun first so he scheduled an exhibition game against the Generals.
The NBA evidently was so afraid the Nets might lose that they refused to sanction the event, which meant any Net injured wasn't covered by insurance, and threatened to take away the Nets top draft pick.
Boe moved the team from the brand new 15,000 seat Nassau Colosseum to an ancient 1800 seat barn in New Jersey and forced the NBA to buy the team from him.

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I suppose Washington Generals was already taken.
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Of course it is, but they did beat the Harlem Globetrotters in 1971.
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What was the moneyline on that I wonder?

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Washington Admirals is being leaked as the new name of the Washington Football team due to be made public next week. I get it, a nod to the navy, with Annapolis nearby and headquartered in the pentagon and all, but just seems very generic and boring. better than "the football team" I guess.
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I don't believe it will be the "Admirals"
DC and its' close in suburbs don't relate at all to Annapolis - that's a whole different world

right now there is strong speculation that it will be the "Commanders"


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Washington Generals sounds good to me. Their recent record isn't much different than the B&Gs.

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it's low roller heaven

deposit as little as $5.00 and according to the link DraftKings will pay 56/1 on any NFL playoff bet - no more than $5 can be bet I'm pretty sure

that means if you win you profit by $280

promo good not just in NY but any state where DraftKings operates

I think I could sell my sister, who's never made a bet in her life on this one___________________(-:\


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Washington Admirals is being leaked as the new name of the Washington Football team due to be made public next week. I get it, a nod to the navy, with Annapolis nearby and headquartered in the pentagon and all, but just seems very generic and boring. better than "the football team" I guess.
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I don't believe it will be the "Admirals"
DC and its' close in suburbs don't relate at all to Annapolis - that's a whole different world

right now there is strong speculation that it will be the "Commanders"


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I thought I read somewhere it might be the Hogs. I'm for that one.

I wish they would use their imagination a bit. Does anyone remember The Chicago Fire? Now that was a kool name for a football team.

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it's low roller heaven

deposit as little as $5.00 and according to the link DraftKings will pay 56/1 on any NFL playoff bet - no more than $5 can be bet I'm pretty sure

that means if you win you profit by $280

promo good not just in NY but any state where DraftKings operates

I think I could sell my sister, who's never made a bet in her life on this one___________________(-:\
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https://milehighsports.com/draftkings-promo-code-gifts-56-1-odds-no-brainer-for-nfl-championships/
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Read the fine print. Wins are paid as 7 Free Bets of $40 each. You have 7 days to use them or they expire

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Washington Admirals is being leaked as the new name of the Washington Football team due to be made public next week. I get it, a nod to the navy, with Annapolis nearby and headquartered in the pentagon and all, but just seems very generic and boring. better than "the football team" I guess.
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I don't believe it will be the "Admirals"
DC and its' close in suburbs don't relate at all to Annapolis - that's a whole different world

right now there is strong speculation that it will be the "Commanders"

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DC region has more Army and AF folks than Navy. A name like Admirals would piss off a lot of fans. How about a nod to the Revolutionary War? Maybe Continentals. According to Wikipedia last sports team to use was back in 1908.

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Quote: kewlj

Washington Admirals is being leaked as the new name of the Washington Football team due to be made public next week. I get it, a nod to the navy, with Annapolis nearby and headquartered in the pentagon and all, but just seems very generic and boring. better than "the football team" I guess.
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I don't believe it will be the "Admirals"
DC and its' close in suburbs don't relate at all to Annapolis - that's a whole different world

right now there is strong speculation that it will be the "Commanders"

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DC region has more Army and AF folks than Navy. A name like Admirals would piss off a lot of fans. How about a nod to the Revolutionary War? Maybe Continentals. According to Wikipedia last sports team to use was back in 1908.
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the largest military presence by far in the DC area is the Pentagon which is actually in Northern Virginia - Arlington
a high % of DC residents and those in the close in suburbs do not at all relate to the military - it's not part of their lives
so many could be called progressives or left leaning
but on the other hand football is militaristic in many ways and DC is where decisions about war are made
so it is likely to give a nod in some way to the military


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Burrows certainly appears to be the next elite QB in the NFL (joining Rodgers, Mahomes and J. Allen). And so far, Burrows has yet to reveal a dark side. He comes across as a genuinely nice person.

It is hard to understand how Ohio State didn't make him their starter.

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He is a traitor. He transferred from Ohio State to LSU.

Is it just me or do the Rams play a "slow game" running the clock down to less than five seconds to just keep the other team's O off the field?

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Is it just me or do the Rams play a "slow game" running the clock down to less than five seconds to just keep the other team's O off the field?
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I'm sure that is sometimes the game plan, but in general:

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/average-time-of-possession-net-of-ot

The Rams are in the bottom half of the league in time of possession. Of course, they are also the sixth highest-scoring team in the league, so even if the plan is to chew clock, the time of possession might be slightly deflated by how often they score.

I also hope that the performance against the Buccaneers as well as the 4th Quarter Comeback against the 49ers is enough to silence some of Matthew Stafford's critics who call him a, 'Choke artist,' regardless of what happens in the Super Bowl. This season is obviously more than I expected from the Rams, but I said going into the season that there was a very good chance Stafford could do some stuff on a decent team with offensive weapons and a reasonably good defense.

Obviously, it's tough to see Brady go out that way if he does end up retiring, but he led the league in major passing categories for the regular season, at the age of 44, so I would think that your Lord and Savior has nothing left to prove. It will be sad to see him go, but I was legitimately happy for Matthew Stafford that he got a shot to play in the NFC Championship...a game that he'd never have gotten within sniffing distance of with the Lions. I stand behind the position that I always held---great quarterback who played with mostly terrible teams. Not merely solid, excellent.

Of course, I'm also the guy who predicted that the Bengals would suck again.