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November 26th, 2017 at 10:30:34 AM permalink
The late news confirming that Jacoby Brisset would indeed play for the Colts appears to have had a big impact: all 5 people picking the Colts (including 3 confidence picks) were late submitters, as was a person picking the Colts Over as a confidence pick.

12 people picked the Bills, including 2 confidence picks.

And Romes must be tapping into a different fount of wisdom than the rest of the field:
- He was the only person to pick the Bengals
- He was the only person to pick the Chiefs
- He was one of only two to pick the Falcons
- He was one of only two to pick the Patriots
What bold originality! What an uncanny ability to zig when all around him are zagging. Apparently, he is poised to make a big move. Good luck, buddy.
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November 26th, 2017 at 11:27:13 PM permalink
I think I am still ever so slightly higher than WizoNothing (4-2) for now with this week's picks at 3-2. But it is getting too close for comfort !

MidWestAP was in third and is currently 2-2 so Monday game COULD AT BEST take him to 3-2.
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November 27th, 2017 at 7:58:54 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

...And Romes must be tapping into a different fount of wisdom than the rest of the field:
- He was the only person to pick the Bengals
- He was the only person to pick the Chiefs
- He was one of only two to pick the Falcons
- He was one of only two to pick the Patriots
What bold originality! What an uncanny ability to zig when all around him are zagging. Apparently, he is poised to make a big move. Good luck, buddy.

While I won't divulge my CLEARLY AMAZING STRATEGY, I will say it was basically just luck. Gotta start making moves now, though I'm not sure I can even still come close to winning =p. One thing though, when you're different from everyone else even if you lose most of the time - when you win, you don't have to chop the wins with anyone!

Thanks for the well wishes, but I plan to return to my average 50% ASAP. For the record though, the strategy I'm trying is supposed to be a winning one (so clearly it sucks, but eh, I'm sticking with it to see how it turns out).
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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November 27th, 2017 at 10:57:30 AM permalink
Romes, I actually wrote that post about you being a contrarian picker before the games started - so when I said you were poised to make a big move, it wasn't clear whether it would be up or down the leaderboard. I was surprised (and happy) to see you go 5-1.

I agree with you about being different. You can't catch the leaders if most of your picks are the same as their picks. I see some contestants starting to pick a lot of over/unders, and I wonder if that might be the reason.
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November 27th, 2017 at 11:41:50 AM permalink
Ah, well I'm not trying to be a 'contrarian picker' either =p. My strategy is a simple one, that might go with or against the main crowd on any given week =).
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November 27th, 2017 at 12:11:25 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

And Romes must be tapping into a different fount of wisdom than the rest of the field:
- He was the only person to pick the Bengals
- He was the only person to pick the Chiefs
- He was one of only two to pick the Falcons
- He was one of only two to pick the Patriots
What bold originality! What an uncanny ability to zig when all around him are zagging. Apparently, he is poised to make a big move.

Quote: Romes

Ah, well I'm not trying to be a 'contrarian picker' either =p. My strategy is a simple one, that might go with or against the main crowd on any given week =).

Romes:
Bengals -8.5
Eagles -14
Patriots -16.5
Chiefs -10
Falcons -9.5 CONFIDENCE


Aha ! I have figured out ROMES' secret time-tested strategy.

1) Pick 2 teams with bird names, one of which is always a confidence pick.

2) Pick 2 teams near the start of the alphabet, but never the Browns/Clowns.

3) Pick the Patriots.
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November 27th, 2017 at 12:24:21 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

...3) Pick the Patriots.

Well that's just good advice to anyone right there.
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November 27th, 2017 at 2:50:03 PM permalink
Actually, the Patriots are only 5-4 against the spread this year.
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November 27th, 2017 at 5:01:19 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Actually, the Patriots are only 5-4 against the spread this year.

EXACTLY ! ROMES is going for the "most average" prize. Crazy ? OR Crazy like a Fox.
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November 27th, 2017 at 8:38:14 PM permalink
Unofficial Week 12 Results and Current Standings

Mission146 (1-4)
Browns +8.5 (loss)
Bills +10 (win)
Buccaneers +10 (loss)
Jaguars -5 (loss)
Broncos +5 (loss)

JW17 (2-4)
Broncos +5 Confidence (loss)
Browns +8.5 (loss)
Dolphins +16.5 (loss)
Eagles -14 (win)
Packers +14 (win)

WizardofNothing (4-2)
Eagles -14 Confidence (win)
Eagles OVER 44 (loss)
Rams OVER 53.5 (loss)
Patriots -16.5 (win)
Titans -3.5 (win)

JohnZimbo (2-4)
Broncos UNDER 43.5 (win)
Broncos +5 Confidence (loss)
Jaguars UNDER 38 (loss)
Ravens UNDER 38 (loss)
Browns OVER 38 (win)

PlayYourCardsRight (3-3)
Falcons -9.5 (win)
Raiders -5 (win)
Chiefs UNDER 46.5 (win)
Saints +2.5 (loss)
Steelers -14 Confidence (loss)

KMUMF (2-4)
Steelers -14 (loss)
Titans -3.5 (win)
Jets +5.5 (loss)
Eagles -14 (win)
Saints +2.5 Confidence (loss)

Terapined (1-3)
Bears +14 (loss)
Dolphins +16.5 (loss)
Bucs +9.5 (loss)
Ravens -7 (push)
Packers +14 (win)

EdCollins (4-2)
Cardinals +5 Confidence (win)
Packers +14 (win)
Bills +10 (win)
Bucs + 9.5 (loss)
Bears +14 (loss)

SOOPOO (3-3)
Bills +10 (Confidence) (win)
Saints +2.5 (loss)
Packers +14 (win)
Dolphins +16.5 (loss)
Bears +14 (loss)

JPlot (2-3)
Jets +5.5 (loss)
Raiders -5 (win)
Colts UNDER (win)
Falcons UNDER (loss)
49ers +6.5 (loss)

Odiousgambit (3-2)
Panthers (-5.5) (win)
Titans (-3.5) (win)
Jaguars (-5) (loss)
Bills (+10) (win)
Saints (+2.5) (loss)

Rainman (3-1)
packers +14 (win)
seahawks -6.5 (win)
saints +2.5 (loss)
raiders -5 (win)
texans +7 (push)

JOHNNYQ (3-2)
Bears (+14) (loss)
Dolphins (+16.5) (loss)
Bills (+10) (win)
Rams (-2.5) (win)
Packers (+14) (win)

DrZin (2-3)
Browns (+8.5) (loss)
Colts (+3.5) (loss)
Rams (-2.5) (win)
Cardinals (+5) (win)
Broncos (+5) (loss)

Gordonm888 (4-1)
Eagles -14 (win)
Bills +10 (win)
Colts +3.5 (loss)
Raiders -5 Confidence (win)
Ravens -7 (push)

RisingDough (3-3)
Browns +8.5 (loss)
49ers +6.5 (loss)
Titans-3.5 (win)
Jaguars -5 (loss)
Packers +14 Confidence (win)

Wizard (2-4)
Bills (+10) (win)
Colts (+3.5) Confidence (loss)
Browns (+8.5) (loss)
Jets (+5.5) (loss)
Cardinals (+5) (win)

Sparty10k (2-4)
Dolphins +16.5 (loss)
Bills +10 (win)
Colts +3.5 Confidence (loss)
Broncos UNDER43.5 (win)
Steelers -14 (loss)

Beachbumbabs (3-3)
Saints UNDER 53.5 (win)
Bucs +9.5 (loss)
Saints +2.5 (loss)
Jaguars -5 (loss)
Bills +10 Confidence (win)

Miplet (1-5)
Browns +8.5 (loss)
Bills +10 (win)
Colts +3.5 Confidence (loss)
Saints +2.5 (loss)
Broncos +5 (loss)

MidwestAP (2-2)
Browns +8.5 (loss)
Bills +10 (win)
Falcons UNDER 48.5 (loss)
Cardinals +5 (win)
Ravens -7 (push)

Genwyzgy (3-3)
Bears +14 (loss)
Bills +10 (win)
Colts OVER 45.5 Confidence (loss)
Rams -2.5 (win)
Raiders -5 (win)

Romes (5-1)
Bengals -8.5 (win)
Eagles -14 (win)
Patriots -16.5 (win)
Chiefs -10 (loss)
Falcons -9.5 Confidence (win)

DLW6486 (3-2)
Buccaneers +9.5 (loss)
Raiders -5 (win)
Panthers -5.5 (win)
Jaguars -5 (loss)
Jaguars OVER 38 (win)


Name Wins Losses %
JohnnyQ 35 22 61.40%
WizardofNothing 42 28 60.00%
MidwestAP 36 27 57.14%
BeachBumBabs 38 29 56.72%
rainman 31 26 54.39%
terapined 31 26 54.39%
Wizard 38 32 54.29%
EdCollins 33 28 54.10%
DLW6486 31 27 53.45%
Romes 34 30 53.13%
Sparty10k 35 32 52.24%
miplet 36 34 51.43%
KMUMF 27 26 50.94%
GenWyzgy 32 32 50.00%
Mission146 27 27 50.00%
SOOPOO 33 34 49.25%
Gordonm888 31 32 49.21%
JohnZimbo 33 35 48.53%
DrZin 27 32 45.76%
PlayYourCardsRight 26 32 44.83%
odiousgambit 23 29 44.23%
JPlot 27 35 43.55%
RisingDough 29 38 43.28%
JW17 27 41 39.71%
Totals 762 734 50.94%


Record of Skip Weeks:

Gordonm888: Week 4
JPlot: Week 10
KMUMF: Week 2
Mission146: Week 6
odiousgambit: Week 5
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 7
rainman: Week 7
Romes: Week 4
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November 28th, 2017 at 11:13:58 AM permalink
Its close for all prizes. I am a game under .500, and can be as high as 3rd place after next week, and as low as second to last. Wizard at 38-32 will be very hardpressed to climb above 60%.
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November 28th, 2017 at 1:16:41 PM permalink
I have a question about the rules.

I assume that we are not allowed to pick both sides of the same game or the same over/under bet, correct? Great way to guarantee Mr.Average. Not really sure that the rules address that. . . .
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November 28th, 2017 at 2:10:38 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I have a question about the rules.

I assume that we are not allowed to pick both sides of the same game or the same over/under bet, correct? Great way to guarantee Mr.Average. Not really sure that the rules address that. . . .

You assume correctly. You can't do that. And yes, it is addressed in the rules.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/29341-official-2017-wov-picks-game-thread/#post604308

ADDENDUM:

A proper set of Picks shall consist of five unique Picks of which one may optionally be a Confidence Pick. Even if you make a Confidence Pick, you MUST still make five unique and non-offsetting Picks.

In the event an improper Picks is submitted (or improperly formatted ones for Week 3 and beyond) you will automatically use your Skip Week if one is still available to you and your Picks will not count. If no Skip Week is available to you, you shall be scored with a record of 0-5 for that week and will not be eligible for the, 'You Suck,' or, 'Most Average,' consolation prizes.
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December 1st, 2017 at 4:10:48 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 13 Lines are as follows:

Lions (+3) @ Ravens (-3) O/U 43.5
49ers (+3) @ Bears (-3) O/U 41
Vikings (+3) @ Falcons (-3) O/U 47
Patriots (-9) @ Bills (+9) O/U 48.5
Broncos (-1.5) @ Dolphins (+1.5) O/U 39
Texans (+6.5) @ Titans (-6.5) O/U 43
Colts (+9.5) @ Jaguars (-9.5) O/U 41
Buccaneers (+2.5) @ Packers (-2.5) O/U 45
Chiefs (-3.5) @ Jets (+3.5) O/U 43.5
Panthers (+4.5) @ Saints (-4.5) O/U 48
Browns (+14) @ Chargers (-14) O/U 44
Rams (-7) @ Cardinals (+7) O/U 44.5
Giants (+8.5) @ Raiders (-8.5) O/U 42
Eagles (-5.5) @ Seahawks (+5.5) O/U 47
Steelers (-5) @ Bengals (+5) O/U 43
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 3rd, 2017 at 9:30:57 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 13 Picks are as follows:

Mission146:
49ers +3
Vikings +3
Browns +14
Seahawks +5.5
Lions +3

JohnZimbo:
Titans -6.5 confidence
Titans under 43
Buccaneers +2.5
Bills +9
Bills under 48.5

terapined:
Ravens -3
Bucs +2.5
Browns +14
Colts +9.5
Bills +9

OdiousGambit:
chiefs -3.5
broncos -1.5
buccaneers +2.5
colts +9.5
panthers +4.5

BeachBumBabs:
Chiefs -3.5
Eagles -5.5
Chargers -14
Raiders -8.5 confidence
Lions +3

JOHNNYQ:
Ravens (-3)
Bears (-3)
Dolphins (+1.5)
Jets (+3.5)
Steelers (-5) confidence

DRZIN:
Ravens (-3)
Bears (-3)
Falcons (-3)
Dolphins (+1.5)
Packers (-2.5)

PlayYourCardsRight:
Bears (-3) CONFIDENCE
Jaguars (-9.5)
Chargers -14
Steelers -5
Saints - 4.5

SOOPOO:
Browns +14 (confidence)
Seahawks +5.5
Colts +9.5
Bills + 9
Cardinals +7

RisingDough:
Giants +8.5
Seahawks +5.5
Bengals +5
Ravens -3 CONFIDENCE
Cardinals +7

GenWyzgy:
Falcons -3 CONFIDENCE
Dolphins +1.5
Jets +3.5
Panthers + 4.5
Raiders -8.5

Wizard:
Lions (+3)
Bears (-3)
Vikings (+3)
Jets (+3.5) -- confidence
Browns (+14)

JW17:
Broncos (-1.5) confidence
Giants (+8.5)
Browns (+14)
Bills (+9)
Cardinals (+7)

Gordonm888:
Vikings +3
Titans -6.5
Colts +9.5 - Confidence
Jets +3.5
Rams -7

JPlot:
SEAHAWKS +5.5 CONFIDENCE
Titans -6.5
49ers UNDER
Vikings +3
Browns +14

EdCollins:
Cardinals +7
Seahawks +5.5
Jets +3.5 Confidence
Bills +9
Dolphins +1.5

rainman:
Dolphins +1.5
panthers +4.5
seahawks +5.5
steelers -5
chiefs -3.5

miplet:
Vikings +3
Bills +9
Colts +9.5
Jets +3.5
Seahawks +5.5-confidence

Sparty10k:
Vikings +3
Jets+3.5
Browns +14
Texans +6.5
Steelers -5

MidwestAP:
Bills +9
Broncos OVER 39
Titans -6.5
Colts +9.5
Seahawks +5.5 - Confidence

KMUMF:
Bears -3
Vikings +3
Chargers -14 (Confidence)
Eagles -5.5
Rams -7

DLW6486:
Chargers OVER 44
Titans OVER 43
Bears -3
Packers -2.5
Jaguars OVER 41

Romes:
Ravens -3
Bears -3
Falcons -3
Titans -6.5
Jaguars - 9.5 CONFIDENCE

WizardofNothing:
Eagles -5.5 CONFIDENCE
Eagles OVER 47
Patriots -9
Patriots OVER 48.5
Jets +3.5
Last edited by: Mission146 on Dec 4, 2017
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 3rd, 2017 at 10:05:52 AM permalink
Please confirm there are no picks from Romes.
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December 3rd, 2017 at 10:11:39 AM permalink
Note that tomorrow evening I will not be able to post the results and updated standings until about 90 minutes after the Monday night game.

(Normally I post the results and standings within a few minutes after the Monday night game. But I have plans in the evening and won't be home until late.)
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December 3rd, 2017 at 1:13:07 PM permalink
RE: Romes

Defaults, sorry, will add them when I’m on a computer.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 3rd, 2017 at 3:57:48 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

Please confirm there are no picks from Romes.

WizardofNothing ?
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December 3rd, 2017 at 5:37:40 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

WizardofNothing ?

I wasn't worried about him, as this is his first week of no picks. I assume he's taking his Skip Week. I asked about Romes because Romes has already taken a Skip Week and I didn't want to see him receive an 0-5 forfeit.
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December 4th, 2017 at 4:02:33 AM permalink
I wish I'd skipped. I almost did. 0-6 instead. Gack.
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December 4th, 2017 at 5:45:55 AM permalink
I am proud of my son, who went from vying for the 'you suck' award to being only 2 games away from Mr. Average, with his 6-0 week. (jplot)
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December 4th, 2017 at 7:13:01 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

I wasn't worried about him, as this is his first week of no picks. I assume he's taking his Skip Week. I asked about Romes because Romes has already taken a Skip Week and I didn't want to see him receive an 0-5 forfeit.



He has Picks, too. That was just an oversight.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 4th, 2017 at 7:20:50 AM permalink
Mission can confirm, but my picks should be:

Ravens -3
Bears -3
Falcons -3
Titans -6.5
Jaguars - 9.5 CONFIDENCE
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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December 4th, 2017 at 4:02:35 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

I wasn't worried about him, as this is his first week of no picks. I assume he's taking his Skip Week. I asked about Romes because Romes has already taken a Skip Week and I didn't want to see him receive an 0-5 forfeit.

I wasn't worried about WoN missing a week, but I AM WORRIED about his picks being much better than mine !
Name Wins Losses %
JohnnyQ 35 22 61.40%
WizardofNothing 42 28 60.00%

Need the Steelers to deliver tonight, "bigly".

update: aaarrrggghhh
Last edited by: JohnnyQ on Dec 4, 2017
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December 4th, 2017 at 6:57:55 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

Need the Steelers to deliver tonight, "bigly".

update: aaarrrggghhh



Not looking good, that's a shame ;-)
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December 4th, 2017 at 7:07:14 PM permalink
The Picks on the previous page have been updated to include Romes and WoN.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 4th, 2017 at 9:42:20 PM permalink
Unofficial Week 13 Results and Current Standings

Mission146 (4-1)
49ers +3 (win)
Vikings +3 (win)
Browns +14 (win)
Seahawks +5.5 (win)
Lions +3 (loss)

JohnZimbo (4-2)
Titans -6.5 Confidence (win)
Titans UNDER 43 (win)
Buccaneers +2.5 (loss)
Bills +9 (loss)
Bills UNDER 48.5 (win)

terapined (2-3)
Ravens -3 (win)
Bucs +2.5 (loss)
Browns +14 (win)
Colts +9.5 (loss)
Bills +9 (loss)

OdiousGambit (0-5)
chiefs -3.5 (loss)
broncos -1.5 (loss)
buccaneers +2.5 (loss)
colts +9.5 (loss)
panthers +4.5 (loss)

BeachBumBabs (0-6)
Chiefs -3.5 (loss)
Eagles -5.5 (loss)
Chargers -14 (loss)
Raiders -8.5 Confidence (loss)
Lions +3 (loss)

JOHNNYQ (3-3)
Ravens (-3) (win)
Bears (-3) (loss)
Dolphins (+1.5) (win)
Jets (+3.5) (win)
Steelers (-5) Confidence (loss)

DRZIN (3-2)
Ravens (-3) (win)
Bears (-3) (loss)
Falcons (-3) (loss)
Dolphins (+1.5) (win)
Packers (-2.5) (win)

PlayYourCardsRight (2-4)
Bears (-3) Confidence (loss)
Jaguars (-9.5) (win)
Chargers -14 (loss)
Steelers -5 (loss)
Saints - 4.5 (win)

SOOPOO (3-3)
Browns +14 (Confidence) (win)
Seahawks +5.5 (win)
Colts +9.5 (loss)
Bills + 9 (loss)
Cardinals +7 (loss)

RisingDough (5-1)
Giants +8.5 (win)
Seahawks +5.5 (win)
Bengals +5 (win)
Ravens -3 Confidence (win)
Cardinals +7 (loss)

GenWyzgy (2-4)
Falcons -3 Confidence (loss)
Dolphins +1.5 (win)
Jets +3.5 (win)
Panthers + 4.5 (loss)
Raiders -8.5 (loss)

Wizard (4-2)
Lions (+3) (loss)
Bears (-3) (loss)
Vikings (+3) (win)
Jets (+3.5) Confidence (win)
Browns (+14) (win)

JW17 (2-4)
Broncos (-1.5) Confidence (loss)
Giants (+8.5) (win)
Browns (+14) (win)
Bills (+9) (loss)
Cardinals (+7) (loss)

Gordonm888 (4-2)
Vikings +3 (win)
Titans -6.5 (win)
Colts +9.5 Confidence (loss)
Jets +3.5 (win)
Rams -7 (win)

JPlot (6-0)
SEAHAWKS +5.5 Confidence (win)
Titans -6.5 (win)
49ers UNDER (win)
Vikings +3 (win)
Browns +14 (win)

EdCollins (4-2)
Cardinals +7 (loss)
Seahawks +5.5 (win)
Jets +3.5 Confidence (win)
Bills +9 (loss)
Dolphins +1.5 (win)

rainman (2-3)
Dolphins +1.5 (win)
panthers +4.5 (loss)
seahawks +5.5 (win)
steelers -5 (loss)
chiefs -3.5 (loss)

miplet (4-2)
Vikings +3 (win)
Bills +9 (loss)
Colts +9.5 (loss)
Jets +3.5 (win)
Seahawks +5.5 Confidence (win)

Sparty10k (3-2)
Vikings +3 (win)
Jets+3.5 (win)
Browns +14 (win)
Texans +6.5 (loss)
Steelers -5 (loss)

MidwestAP (4-2)
Bills +9 (loss)
Broncos OVER 39 (win)
Titans -6.5 (win)
Colts +9.5 (loss)
Seahawks +5.5 Confidence (win)

KMUMF (2-4)
Bears -3 (loss)
Vikings +3 (win)
Chargers -14 (Confidence) (loss)
Eagles -5.5 (loss)
Rams -7 (win)

DLW6486 (1-4)
Chargers OVER 44 (loss)
Titans OVER 43 (loss)
Bears -3 (loss)
Packers -2.5 (win)
Jaguars OVER 41 (loss)

Romes (4-2)
Ravens -3 (win)
Bears -3 (loss)
Falcons -3 (loss)
Titans -6.5 (win)
Jaguars - 9.5 Confidence (win)

WizardofNothing (2-4)
Eagles -5.5 Confidence (loss)
Eagles OVER 47 (loss)
Patriots -9 (win)
Patriots OVER 48.5 (loss)
Jets +3.5 (win)

Name Wins Losses %
JohnnyQ 38 25 60.32%
MidwestAP 40 29 57.97%
WizardofNothing 44 32 57.89%
Wizard 42 34 55.26%
EdCollins 37 30 55.22%
Romes 38 32 54.29%
rainman 33 29 53.23%
terapined 33 29 53.23%
Sparty10k 38 34 52.78%
miplet 40 36 52.63%
Mission146 31 28 52.54%
BeachBumBabs 38 35 52.05%
DLW6486 32 31 50.79%
Gordonm888 35 34 50.72%
JohnZimbo 37 37 50.00%
SOOPOO 36 37 49.32%
KMUMF 29 30 49.15%
GenWyzgy 34 36 48.57%
JPlot 33 35 48.53%
DrZin 30 34 46.88%
RisingDough 34 39 46.58%
PlayYourCardsRight 28 36 43.75%
odiousgambit 23 34 40.35%
JW17 29 45 39.19%
Totals 832 801 50.95%


Record of Skip Weeks:
Gordonm888: Week 4
JPlot: Week 10
KMUMF: Week 2
Mission146: Week 6
odiousgambit: Week 5
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 7
rainman: Week 7
Romes: Week 4
JohnnyQ
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December 5th, 2017 at 2:54:21 AM permalink
Quote: MidwestAP

Not looking good, that's a shame ;-)

Hey, welcome (to a distant) 2nd place.
There's emptiness behind their eyes There's dust in all their hearts They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
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December 5th, 2017 at 5:13:45 AM permalink
I am starting a petition to end the season right now so that I win the Mr. Average prize...who's with me?????????????
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December 5th, 2017 at 7:33:09 AM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

I am starting a petition to end the season right now so that I win the Mr. Average prize...who's with me?????????????

Noooooo, next week is "my big break." Either I go 0-6, and shoot back to 50% for my Mr Average title, or I can go 6-0 and shoot up to 59.5% and have a hunt at (somehow - and very unlikely) winning!

It's my time to shine! (So I'm gonna need all the rest of you to do horribly next week, thanks)
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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December 5th, 2017 at 4:20:02 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

I am starting a petition to end the season right now so that I win the Mr. Average prize...who's with me?????????????

Well I am tempted to sign on the dotted line, BUT I am having too much fun with this. AND besides, who am I to crush ROMES' dream ( and I do mean dream ).
There's emptiness behind their eyes There's dust in all their hearts They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
PlayYourCardsRight
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December 9th, 2017 at 10:23:05 AM permalink
Did i miss this week's odds?
terapined
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December 9th, 2017 at 10:48:37 AM permalink
Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

Did i miss this week's odds?


No you did not
I generally make my picks soon after Mission posts the spreads
Mission dropping the ball again
Cmon Mission
Get it together
There is money at stake
on the flip side
I hope everything is all right with you and the family
Its just a forum. Nothing here to get obsessed about.
Mission146
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December 9th, 2017 at 11:18:09 AM permalink
Sorry about the delay. I hit a deer about a month ago and it trashed my car, then yesterday, someone rear-ended the rental and I had to deal with that. It slipped my mind.

Greetings!

The Week 14 Picks are as Follows:

Lions (PK) @ Buccaneers (PK)
Bears (+6.5) @ Bengals (-6.5) O/U 38.5
Seahawks (+2.5) @ Jaguars (-2.5) O/U 40
Raiders (+4) @ Chiefs (-4) O/U 48.5
Vikings (-2.5) @ Panthers (+2.5) O/U 40
Packers (-3) @ Browns (+3) O/U 39.5
49ers (+3) @ Texans (-3) O/U 45
Redskins (+6) @ Chargers (-6) O/U 46.5
Jets (-1) @ Broncos (+1) O/U 41.5
Titans (-3) @ Cardinals (+3) O/U 43
Eagles (+1) @ Rams (-1) O/U 48
Cowboys (-3.5) @ Giants (+3.5) O/U 41.5
Ravens (+4.5) @ Steelers (-4.5) O/U 43.5
Patriots (-11) @ Dolphins (+11) O/U 47.5
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December 9th, 2017 at 11:32:40 AM permalink
Due to some problem over at the VegasInsider site, Colts/Bills will not play at all and Lions/Buccaneers total is unavailable for the time being. Since we are close to the deadline, those Lines will not be added later.
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December 10th, 2017 at 9:51:22 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 14 Picks Are As Follows:

Mission146:
Raiders +4
Packers -3
49ers +3
Eagles +1
Patriots -11

WizardofNothing:
Eagles +1-CONFIDENCE
Eagles OVER 48
Patriots -11
Patriots OVER 47.5
Chiefs -4

PlayYourCardsRight:
Bengals -6.5
Jaguars -2.5
Chiefs -4
Vikings -2.5
Packers -3 CONFIDENCE

Romes:
Bengals -6.5
Jaguars -2.5
Chiefs -4
Texans -3
Chargers -6

terapined:
Bucs pk
Ravens +4.5
Chargers -6
Dolphins +11
Bears +6.5

EdCollins:
Cowboys -3.5 (Confidence)
Cowboys over
Packers -3
Eagles +1
Redskins +6

BeachBumBabs:
Packers -3 Confidence
Cowboys -3.5
Vikings - 2.5
Dolphins +11
Lions PK

Rainman:
seahawks +2.5
cowboys -3.5 confidence
vikings -2.5
eagles +1
raiders +4

JohnZimbo:
Jaguars -2.5 confidence
Jaguars under 40
Cardinals +3
Cardinals under 43
Giants +3.5

RisingDough:
Redskins +6
Chiefs -4
Seahawks +2.5
Rams -1 *CONFIDENCE
Browns +3

odiousgambit:
49ers (+3)
Titans (-3)
Jets (-1)
Seahawks (+2.5)
Patriots (-11)

JohnnyQ:
Lions (PK)
Bengals (-6.5)
Rams (-1)
Steelers (-4.5)
Patriots (-11)

DrZin:
Buccaneers (PK)
Jaguars (-2.5)
Packers (-3)
Texans (-3)
Giants (+3.5)

KMUMF:
Bengals -6.5
Chiefs -4
Packers -3 Confadance
Cowboys -3.5
Vikings -2.5

JPlot:
Cardinals +3
49ers +3
Steelers UNDER 43.5
Chiefs UNDER 48.5
Rams -1

GordonM888:
Bears +6.5
Raiders +4
Browns +3
49ers +3
Eagles +1

miplet:
Lions PK-confidence
49ers +3
Eagles +1
Steelers -4.5
Chiefs under 48.5

Sparty10k:
Buccaneers pick
Seahawks +2.5
49ers +3-confidence
Cardinals +3
Eagles +1

MidwestAP:
Lions Pk
Chiefs -4
Packers UNDER 39.5
49ers +3
Eagles +1

JW17:
Broncos +1
Browns +6.5
Bears +6.5
Eagles +1
Giants +3.5

Wizard:
Lions (PK)
Vikings (-2.5)
49ers (+3) -- confidence
Cardinals (+3)
Ravens (+4.5)

SOOPOO:
Seahawks +2.5
Raiders+4
Packers -3 Confidence
Redskins+6
Dolphins + 11

GenWyzgy:
Redskins OVER 46.5
Cardinals +3
Giants +3.5
Giants OVER 41.5 Confidence
Steelers -4.5

DLW6486:
Steelers OVER 43.5
Ravens +4.5
Patriots UNDER 47.5
Broncos OVER 41.5
Texans UNDER 45
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Mission146
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December 10th, 2017 at 9:54:54 AM permalink
Greetings!

I just wanted to apologize again for the delay in getting the Lines up. Like I said, I got rear-ended and had to have the police report (even though she was forthcoming with her insurance information) because I was driving a rental car. I was also watching my Mom's adopted son because she's currently admitted into the hospital with some side effects from chemotherapy and he was really shaken up from it all, so it just slipped my mind. At some point shortly after that, I had to go pick my own kids up and...ugh...

My kids are terrific, but my Mom's adopted son might be proof of Lucifer's existence, because Lucifer is the biological father. He's the only kid I've ever seen that can instantly effectuate my daughter's behavior going to crap...my son is old enough to be unaffected by him. Under any other circumstances, there's no way in 300 years I'd ever watch that kid. You can bet your bottom dollar anytime I introduce him to someone I hammer home every syllable of A-DOP-TED BROTH-ER, as in, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!!!

Finally, as far as whatever error on VegasInsider affecting the entire Colts game and Tampa Bay totals, I don't know what that was, but it seems to be resolved now. I checked back probably about two hours after posting the lines and it still hadn't been resolved at that point. I had already said I probably wouldn't add them anyway, so it didn't really matter. It's not like we have Saturday games or Bye Weeks to deal with this week, so still a pretty full card without those selections.
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Mission146
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December 10th, 2017 at 10:02:59 AM permalink
Last Thing: WizardofNothing's Picks still play pursuant to Rule 6:

Quote:

6.) Picks will be PM'ed to me at any point prior to 10:00 a.m. EST Sunday, all picks will be openly posted by me between that time and kickoff.

***The exception to this Rule is that I will accept E-Mail Picks from banned Members, but only if they are banned. If you are banned, you can still receive PM's, so I will PM you my E-Mail address.



Except he texted me his Picks, he already had my phone number, so same difference. Either way, there's a timestamp. It's mainly about there being a timestamp, so I wouldn't take them by voice call or in person or anything like that.
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December 10th, 2017 at 11:23:37 AM permalink
Mission sorry to hear about the personal problems. Thanks for keeping this contest going week after week.

I'm surprised that more contestants didn't pick
1, the Giants for the psychological edge of having Eli back,
2. the Lions, after the late announcement that Stafford would start.
I didn't make those picks either, but I expected they would be more popular choices.

I held my nose this week and bet on the Browns to cover. They're ahead at halftime, now, but . . .
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Mission146
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December 10th, 2017 at 11:43:36 AM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

Mission sorry to hear about the personal problems. Thanks for keeping this contest going week after week.

I'm surprised that more contestants didn't pick
1, the Giants for the psychological edge of having Eli back,
2. the Lions, after the late announcement that Stafford would start.
I didn't make those picks either, but I expected they would be more popular choices.

I held my nose this week and bet on the Browns to cover. They're ahead at halftime, now, but . . .



You're welcome, thank you for playing and for yours and everyone's patience.

1.) The psychological edge of having Eli didn't seem to do much for them the first ten weeks of the season. I also think it's a big ask, in general, to pick against a team that could still be playing for something. Dallas could still conceivably get a WildCard spot with a win this week and a little other help. They have some built-in help when Atlanta plays Carolina in the final week of the season as one of those two teams will generally lose. Of course, one also has to win and Atlanta would have the tiebreaker over Dallas as they beat them.

Still, you look at the Cowboys schedule and you see a potential path to winning out if they pull off this week. Zeke will be back against the Seahawks and the Eagles, and they have the Raiders next week. We see how they looked with Zeke at the beginning of the year. The Eagles MAY have home field advantage locked up throughout by the last week and would, I assume, sit Wentz.

As far as the Seahawks are concerned, depending on what they do in the meantime, that could perhaps effectively become a play-in game for them. And, again, Zeke will be back. This game undoubtedly means more for the Cowboys than the Giants, but if the Cowboys lose, you basically have to conclude that their season is probably finished.

2.) I don't know how much that would move the line. It seems that between open and time of posting Lines, the Line moved OFF OF the Lions, who were at -1 if you wanted to lay 125 to win 100. Since then, you've got a PK between the two teams. The MGM close appears to be DET (-1) -110 to win 100 whereas it was the exact opposite at Westgate who seemed to close on TB (-1) -110 to win 100.

I Picked GB to cover, who knows? That wasn't a line move bet, I just couldn't figure out why CLE wasn't a bigger dog. Don't tell me Rodgers, that would be an insult to my intelligence, of course I know Rodgers has been out...lol
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JohnnyQ
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December 11th, 2017 at 9:11:51 AM permalink
Hello second place, or worse...

MidwestAP, just keep my spot warm for me !!
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December 11th, 2017 at 12:34:18 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

Hello second place, or worse...

MidwestAP, just keep my spot warm for me !!



Not giving up yet, but I probably should just send MAP the 20 (sidebet) now. I'm 4-1 so far this week, though, with tonight yet to go. Might stay competitive.

Hang in there, JQ. He could still stumble. 3 weeks left.
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December 11th, 2017 at 6:06:23 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Hang in there, JQ. He could still stumble. 3 weeks left.

Hanging..... Yeah, my luck variance has to swing back to some decent weeks.
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December 11th, 2017 at 8:48:55 PM permalink
Unofficial Week 14 Results and Current Standings

Mission146 (3-2)
Raiders +4 (loss)
Packers -3 (win)
49ers +3 (win)
Eagles +1 (win)
Patriots -11 (loss)

WizardofNothing (4-2)
Eagles +1 Confidence (win)
Eagles OVER 48 (win)
Patriots -11 (loss)
Patriots OVER 47.5 (loss)
Chiefs -4 (win)

PlayYourCardsRight (4-2)
Bengals -6.5 (loss)
Jaguars -2.5 (win)
Chiefs -4 (win)
Vikings -2.5 (loss)
Packers -3 Confidence (win)

Romes (3-2)
Bengals -6.5 (loss)
Jaguars -2.5 (win)
Chiefs -4 (win)
Texans -3 (loss)
Chargers -6 (win)

terapined (4-1)
Bucs pk (loss)
Ravens +4.5 (win)
Chargers -6 (win)
Dolphins +11 (win)
Bears +6.5 (win)

EdCollins (4-2)
Cowboys -3.5 (Confidence) (win)
Cowboys OVER (loss)
Packers -3 (win)
Eagles +1 (win)
Redskins +6 (loss)

BeachBumBabs (5-1)
Packers -3 Confidence (win)
Cowboys -3.5 (win)
Vikings - 2.5 (loss)
Dolphins +11 (win)
Lions PK (win)

Rainman (3-3)
seahawks +2.5 (loss)
cowboys -3.5 Confidence (win)
vikings -2.5 (loss)
eagles +1 (win)
raiders +4 (loss)

JohnZimbo (4-2)
Jaguars -2.5 Confidence (win)
Jaguars UNDER 40 (loss)
Cardinals +3 (win)
Cardinals UNDER 43 (win)
Giants +3.5 (loss)

RisingDough (1-5)
Redskins +6 (loss)
Chiefs -4 (win)
Seahawks +2.5 (loss)
Rams -1 *Confidence (loss)
Browns +3 (loss)

odiousgambit (1-4)
49ers (+3) (win)
Titans (-3) (loss)
Jets (-1) (loss)
Seahawks (+2.5) (loss)
Patriots (-11) (loss)

JohnnyQ (1-4)
Lions (PK) (win)
Bengals (-6.5) (loss)
Rams (-1) (loss)
Steelers (-4.5) (loss)
Patriots (-11) (loss)

DrZin (2-3)
Buccaneers (PK) (loss)
Jaguars (-2.5) (win)
Packers (-3) (win)
Texans (-3) (loss)
Giants (+3.5) (loss)

KMUMF (4-2)
Bengals -6.5 (loss)
Chiefs -4 (win)
Packers -3 Confadance (win)
Cowboys -3.5 (win)
Vikings -2.5 (loss)

JPlot (3-2)
Cardinals +3 (win)
49ers +3 (win)
Steelers UNDER 43.5 (loss)
Chiefs UNDER 48.5 (win)
Rams -1 (loss)

GordonM888 (3-2)
Bears +6.5 (win)
Raiders +4 (loss)
Browns +3 (loss)
49ers +3 (win)
Eagles +1 (win)

miplet (5-1)
Lions PK Confidence (win)
49ers +3 (win)
Eagles +1 (win)
Steelers -4.5 (loss)
Chiefs UNDER 48.5 (win)

Sparty10k (4-2)
Buccaneers pick (loss)
Seahawks +2.5 (loss)
49ers +3 Confidence (win)
Cardinals +3 (win)
Eagles +1 (win)

MidwestAP (4-1)
Lions Pk (win)
Chiefs -4 (win)
Packers UNDER 39.5 (loss)
49ers +3 (win)
Eagles +1 (win)

JW17 (3-2)
Broncos +1 (win)
Browns +6.5 (loss)
Bears +6.5 (win)
Eagles +1 (win)
Giants +3.5 (loss)

Wizard (5-1)
Lions (PK) (win)
Vikings (-2.5) (loss)
49ers (+3) Confidence (win)
Cardinals (+3) (win)
Ravens (+4.5) (win)

SOOPOO (3-3)
Seahawks +2.5 (loss)
Raiders+4 (loss)
Packers -3 Confidence (win)
Redskins+6 (loss)
Dolphins + 11 (win)

GenWyzgy (1-5)
Redskins OVER 46.5 (loss)
Cardinals +3 (win)
Giants +3.5 (loss)
Giants OVER 41.5 Confidence (loss)
Steelers -4.5 (loss)

DLW6486 (4-1)
Steelers OVER 43.5 (win)
Ravens +4.5 (win)
Patriots UNDER 47.5 (win)
Broncos OVER 41.5 (loss)
Texans UNDER 45 (win)


Name Wins Losses %
MidwestAP 44 30 59.46%
WizardofNothing 48 34 58.54%
JohnnyQ 39 29 57.35%
Wizard 47 35 57.32%
EdCollins 41 32 56.16%
terapined 37 30 55.22%
miplet 45 37 54.88%
Romes 41 34 54.67%
BeachBumBabs 43 36 54.43%
Sparty10k 42 36 53.85%
Mission146 34 30 53.13%
DLW6486 36 32 52.94%
rainman 36 32 52.94%
Gordonm888 38 36 51.35%
JohnZimbo 41 39 51.25%
KMUMF 33 32 50.77%
SOOPOO 39 40 49.37%
JPlot 36 37 49.32%
DrZin 32 37 46.38%
GenWyzgy 35 41 46.05%
PlayYourCardsRight 32 38 45.71%
RisingDough 35 44 44.30%
JW17 32 47 40.51%
odiousgambit 24 38 38.71%
Totals 910 856 51.53%


Record of Skip Weeks:
Gordonm888: Week 4
JPlot: Week 10
KMUMF: Week 2
Mission146: Week 6
odiousgambit: Week 5
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 7
rainman: Week 7
Romes: Week 4
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December 11th, 2017 at 8:51:12 PM permalink
As you can see MidwestAP regained the top spot, a position he occupied back in Week 5.

JohnnyQ drops to position #3. (He held the #1 spot since Week 7.)
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December 11th, 2017 at 8:56:55 PM permalink
Well, congrats MAP for the new leadership. :p (joke)

Can't believe how badly one little 0-6 week dumped me. So hard to make up that ground. 5-1 hardly moved my standing. But then a lot of people had winning weeks this time.

First time I've noticed there's nobody at all on exactly 50%. Gonna be a big fight for mediocrity, not to mention the standings.

Don't think I ever said thanks, Ed, for keeping up with this every week, and doing the spreadsheet. So thanks, Ed!
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December 11th, 2017 at 9:00:00 PM permalink
Ahhh, it feels good to be king!! At least temporarily!!

I also want to thank Ed and Mission for their work on this contest!!
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December 11th, 2017 at 9:21:04 PM permalink
Edit: I'm told this has been decided and there's a post somewhat later than the rules posts I missed. I'll leave this up anyway. Will link the post when I find it. BBB

Ok, it was a note from Mission yesterday, 1 page back, that says WoN's picks still play. Good.

Quote: page 1 of this contest - rules



WizardofNothing is donating a guaranteed $50 to the contest, but will increase his donation to $500 in the event that we have fifty (50) total players. Anyone can play, so if you have some friends, get them to join the Forum and participate in the game so we can get up to fifty participants!!!

<snip>

WizardofNothing's $50 will be added to first place.

WizardofNothing will BOTH be defending his donations and be eligible to win the contest.



WoN is in 2nd. So I think a determination needs to be made. I think the Wizard, as head admin, and Mission, as Commissioner, need to make the decision, not us, but I think the thoughts of the group should be heard. I will start it.

There is nothing in the rules (most pertinent excerpted above) requiring a person to be a member in good standing. It is implied, I think, but not stated.

WoN is in contention, has paid an entry fee, and donated additional winnings. I think he should be allowed to continue, if he wants to, until the contest is over. He can email his picks to Mission under the same time frame the rest of us have, since the PM tool no longer works for him.

If everybody but me thought he was dropped, or of course he would play, I would disagree with either being obvious. I don't think there's a precedent, and I think the rules language does not preclude either choice, and so either way could be most correct.

I would add that if WoN is not allowed to continue, the fairest thing would be to return all his fees and donation. However, if he is given the option of continuing and chooses not to, he would forfeit that money by walking away.

Thoughts?
Last edited by: beachbumbabs on Dec 11, 2017
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December 11th, 2017 at 10:31:04 PM permalink
How about we just do the right thing and let him finish up he paid.
Last edited by: rainman on Dec 12, 2017
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