RisingDough
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December 12th, 2017 at 12:22:16 AM permalink
He should be able to continue in my opinion.


RD
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December 12th, 2017 at 1:58:45 AM permalink
Mission said yesterday WoN will continue, about 6 or so posts before mine. I didn't see it before I wrote my post. For some reason (not that it really matters) the placeholder that allows you to read where you left off skipped about 8 posts in this thread yesterday, including the one about WoN. But I'm glad we all agree he should continue.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
JohnnyQ
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December 12th, 2017 at 2:46:04 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

But I'm glad we all agree he should continue.

Yes, definitely.
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JohnnyQ
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December 12th, 2017 at 2:47:49 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Don't think I ever said thanks, Ed, for keeping up with this every week, and doing the spreadsheet. So thanks, Ed!

Ditto !
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JohnnyQ
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December 12th, 2017 at 3:00:38 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

JohnnyQ drops to position #3. (He held the #1 spot since Week 7.)

Well at least I have the prize for holding the #1 spot for the most number of weeks all locked up.

Wait, what, there isn't one ? Aaarrrggghhh.
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December 12th, 2017 at 4:16:37 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

odiousgambit.... [rules the cellar at] 38.71%



woohoo! try and tell me that doesnt take skill!
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SOOPOO
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December 12th, 2017 at 4:55:31 AM permalink
Not proudly, but factually, I can now state I am most average. Sadly, my son is second in the race to mediocrity.
Mission146
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December 12th, 2017 at 6:05:15 AM permalink
Correct about WoN.

I also don’t know if everyone ended up seeing my post or not, but I cited the actual Rules of this game that state that banned members may continue to pick by E-Mail.

Anyway, it doesn’t come up too often, but I started this game in 2012 and the ability to E-Mail Picks if one is banned has always been addressed by Rule 6. In fact, it’s in the original and never Edited post of the first 2012 WoV Picks Game.

The only real Rule 6 change that has ever happened is what time the Picks are due.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify this isn’t a one-off decision or Commissioner call; it’s always been in the Rules of the game.

Obviously, WoN will not be able to play next year. The Rule is intended only to protect the interests of those already engaged in a season.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
beachbumbabs
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December 12th, 2017 at 7:40:39 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Correct about WoN.

I also don’t know if everyone ended up seeing my post or not, but I cited the actual Rules of this game that state that banned members may continue to pick by E-Mail.

Anyway, it doesn’t come up too often, but I started this game in 2012 and the ability to E-Mail Picks if one is banned has always been addressed by Rule 6. In fact, it’s in the original and never Edited post of the first 2012 WoV Picks Game.

The only real Rule 6 change that has ever happened is what time the Picks are due.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify this isn’t a one-off decision or Commissioner call; it’s always been in the Rules of the game.

Obviously, WoN will not be able to play next year. The Rule is intended only to protect the interests of those already engaged in a season.



Thanks, Mission. Sorry I missed the initial decision post from the 10th.
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December 12th, 2017 at 8:02:31 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Don't think I ever said thanks, Ed, for keeping up with this every week, and doing the spreadsheet. So thanks, Ed!

You're all very welcome. It's not a problem.
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December 14th, 2017 at 7:47:19 AM permalink
Romes:
Bengals -6.5
Jaguars -2.5
Chiefs -4
Texans -3
Chargers -6

My "default" pick selection lists my last pick always as my CONFIDENCE pick. Should be Chargers -6 CONFIDENCE and I should be 4-2 for the week. Not that I plan on actually winning =P, but alas.
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EdCollins
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December 14th, 2017 at 8:01:36 AM permalink
Acknowledged.

I will correct it later this evening, after I get home. (I assume Mission will confirm this.)
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December 14th, 2017 at 7:36:41 PM permalink
Revised standings after Week 14, per Romes's correction.

Name Wins Losses %
MidwestAP 44 30 59.46%
WizardofNothing 48 34 58.54%
JohnnyQ 39 29 57.35%
Wizard 47 35 57.32%
EdCollins 41 32 56.16%
Romes 42 34 55.26%
terapined 37 30 55.22%
miplet 45 37 54.88%
BeachBumBabs 43 36 54.43%
Sparty10k 42 36 53.85%
Mission146 34 30 53.13%
DLW6486 36 32 52.94%
rainman 36 32 52.94%
Gordonm888 38 36 51.35%
JohnZimbo 41 39 51.25%
KMUMF 33 32 50.77%
SOOPOO 39 40 49.37%
JPlot 36 37 49.32%
DrZin 32 37 46.38%
GenWyzgy 35 41 46.05%
PlayYourCardsRight 32 38 45.71%
RisingDough 35 44 44.30%
JW17 32 47 40.51%
odiousgambit 24 38 38.71%
Totals 911 856 51.56%
Mission146
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December 15th, 2017 at 1:49:09 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 15 Lines will be forthcoming. Miplet's site doesn't seem to be working, so I'll have to list them manually. I have to run somewhere right now, but will do it as soon as I get back.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 15th, 2017 at 1:57:56 PM permalink
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IcheckraiseU
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December 15th, 2017 at 2:10:01 PM permalink
Sorry that I missed this. If I am around next year and this is going on again, please send me an invite?
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December 15th, 2017 at 5:00:47 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Greetings!

The Week 15 Lines will be forthcoming. Miplet's site doesn't seem to be working, so I'll have to list them manually. I have to run somewhere right now, but will do it as soon as I get back.

I did some server updates which broke some things. I’ll have to do some programming changes for it to work again. I don’t think I can do that until Monday, but I’ll see what I can do.
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EdCollins
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December 15th, 2017 at 5:06:02 PM permalink
I assume we are not going to include the two Saturday games? So the deadline will be the same as it normally is.... all picks due by early Sunday morning?
terapined
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December 15th, 2017 at 5:20:58 PM permalink
Quote: IcheckraiseU

Sorry that I missed this. If I am around next year and this is going on again, please send me an invite?


Its yearly
Its open to everyone :-)
There will be a very active thread about this a few weeks before the season starts
Check the instructions in the thread, pay up and you're in. Very easy
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December 16th, 2017 at 5:55:28 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Greetings!

The Week 15 Lines will be forthcoming. Miplet's site doesn't seem to be working, so I'll have to list them manually. I have to run somewhere right now, but will do it as soon as I get back.



19 hours since this post. No lines. Do we need to send a Mission search team?

I want to get my picks in. I want to see the lines that I will be using. It is not easy being as mediocre as I plan to be!
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December 16th, 2017 at 6:12:07 AM permalink
I plan to be more mediocre than you, so there!
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December 16th, 2017 at 7:32:26 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

19 hours since this post. No lines. Do we need to send a Mission search team?

I want to get my picks in. I want to see the lines that I will be using. It is not easy being as mediocre as I plan to be!

I was able to fix part of the problem with my program. Here are the lines right now:
Eagles (-7.5) @ Giants (+7.5) O/U 40.5
Packers (+3) @ Panthers (-3) O/U 47
Bengals (+11) @ Vikings (-11) O/U 42
Dolphins (+3) @ Bills (-3) O/U 39
Texans (+11) @ Jaguars (-11) O/U 38
Jets (+15.5) @ Saints (-15.5) O/U 47.5
Cardinals (+4) @ Redskins (-4) O/U 41
Ravens (-7) @ Browns (+7) O/U 41
Rams (+2) @ Seahawks (-2) O/U 47.5
Patriots (-3) @ Steelers (+3) O/U 54.5
Titans (+1.5) @ 49ers (-1.5) O/U 45
Cowboys (-3) @ Raiders (+3) O/U 45.5
Falcons (-6) @ Buccaneers (+6) O/U 48.5
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December 16th, 2017 at 8:27:41 AM permalink
No sports bettor should ever make a wager without a clear statement of the line that he is wagering against. And I am the type of picker who will change a pick with a line shift of 0.5 pts. BUT, its now less than 23 hrs until the deadline for submitting picks, and I need to submit picks or run a real risk of not submitting anything (and I've already used my skip week.) So, I am taking Miplet's posted lines and going with it. If official lines get posted later that are different, I reserve the right to call FOUL.
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December 16th, 2017 at 9:20:29 AM permalink
I can't speak for Mission, but since the lines Miplet posted, come from the same source as Mission, I'd be in favor of using them as the official lines for week 15.
Mission146
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December 16th, 2017 at 9:30:30 AM permalink
Thanks, Miplet! Here are the lines, as Miplet posted:

I was able to fix part of the problem with my program. Here are the lines right now:
Eagles (-7.5) @ Giants (+7.5) O/U 40.5
Packers (+3) @ Panthers (-3) O/U 47
Bengals (+11) @ Vikings (-11) O/U 42
Dolphins (+3) @ Bills (-3) O/U 39
Texans (+11) @ Jaguars (-11) O/U 38
Jets (+15.5) @ Saints (-15.5) O/U 47.5
Cardinals (+4) @ Redskins (-4) O/U 41
Ravens (-7) @ Browns (+7) O/U 41
Rams (+2) @ Seahawks (-2) O/U 47.5
Patriots (-3) @ Steelers (+3) O/U 54.5
Titans (+1.5) @ 49ers (-1.5) O/U 45
Cowboys (-3) @ Raiders (+3) O/U 45.5
Falcons (-6) @ Buccaneers (+6) O/U 48.5
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
Mission146
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December 17th, 2017 at 8:55:58 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 15 Picks are as Follows:

Mission146:
Bills -3
Jets +15.5
Rams OVER 47.5
49ers -1.5
Cowboys -3

WizardofNothing:
Eagles -7.5 CONFIDENCE
Eagles OVER 40.5
Ravens -7
Dolphins OVER 39
Vikings -11

Romes:
Panthers -3
Vikings -11
Bills -3
Jaguars -11
Saints -15.5-CONFIDENCE

DLW6486:
Giants UNDER 40.5
Panthers OVER 47
Steelers UNDER 54.5
Raiders OVER 45.5
Vikings UNDER 42

GordonM888:
Texans +11
Saints -15.5
Redskins -4
Patriots -3
49ers -1.5 Confidence

odiousgambit:
Bengals +11
Ravens -7
Packers +3
Cowboys -3
Falcons -6

SOOPOO:
Bengals + 11 (confidence)
Jets +15.5
Browns + 7
Texans +11
Titans +1.5

RISINGDOUGH:
Bills -3
Patriots -3
Titans +1.5 CONFIDENCE
Ravens -7
Texans +11

JOHNNYQ:
Bengals (+11)
Texans (+11)
Jets (+15.5)
Raiders (+3)
Titans (+1.5) CONFIDENCE

DrZin:
Panthers (-3)
Bills (-3)
Seahawks (-2)
Titans (+1.5)
Buccaneers (+6)

JohnZimbo:
Saints -15.5 confidence
Rams +2
Panthers -3
Patriots -3
Redskins -4

Rainman:
Cowboys -3 CONFIDENCE
Seahawks -2
Dolphins +3
Steelers +3
Browns +7

Jplot:
Texans +11
Raiders +3
Rams +2
Cardinals OVER 41
Titans +1.5 CONFIDENCE

KMUMF:
Eagles UNDER 40.5
Dolphins +3
Jaguars -11
Cowboys -3
Falcons -6

JW17:
Jets (+15.5) confidence
Browns (+7)
Bengals (+11)
Giants (+7.5)
Buccaneers (+6)

Terapined:
Bucs +6
Ravens -7
Cardinals +4
Jets +15.5
Texans +11

PlayYourCardsRight:
Bills -3 CONFIDENCE
Raiders +3
Redskins -4
Seahawks -2
Steelers +3

Wizard:
Giants (+7.5)
Cardinals (+4)
Rams (+2)
Steelers (+3) -- confidence
Raiders (+3)

BeachBumBabs:
Eagles -7.5
Vikings -11 confidence
Ravens -7
Raiders +3
Jets +15 5

EdCollins:
Seahawks -2
Cowboys -3 Confidence
Falcons -6
Steelers +3
49ers -1.5

Sparty10k:
Dolphins +3
Cardinals +4
Ravens -7
49ers -1.5-confidence
Patriots-3

miplet:
Texans +11-confidence
Saints UNDER 47.5
Seahawks UNDER 47.5
Steelers UNDER 54.5
Buccaneers OVER 48.5

MidwestAP:
Bills -3
Texans OVER 38
Saints UNDER 47.5
Rams +2
Titans +1.5
Last edited by: Mission146 on Dec 17, 2017
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
EdCollins
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December 17th, 2017 at 9:38:15 AM permalink
Romes, do you have a Confidence Pick this week?

I believe you've had such a pick each week so far.
terapined
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December 17th, 2017 at 9:55:59 AM permalink
Little Love
Packers 1
Giants 2
Jags 2

Lots of love
Texans 8
Titans 8
Jets 7
Cowboys 7
Bills 7

Most action
Titans 8 49ers 6
Jets 7 Saints 4 Under 2

Most lopsided action
Texans 8 Jags 2

Interesting action
Overs totaled 8 and Unders totaled 8
Mission146
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December 17th, 2017 at 10:31:49 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

Romes, do you have a Confidence Pick this week?

I believe you've had such a pick each week so far.



Fixed. Default Picks, that was my fault.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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December 17th, 2017 at 10:34:42 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Fixed. Default Picks, that was my fault.

Acknowledged. Thanks.
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December 17th, 2017 at 9:01:13 PM permalink
What was Chris Collingsworth talking about, with the reference to "there's been enough of that already this season"? They were talking about Dallas taking a forced TO for an injury inside 2 min. And speculating that players know that rule and might or sometimes have tried to pick somebody up who's hurt, and hurt them worse. Did that happen once or more?

I also thought that was bizarre, that Oakland lost possession on the fumble forward into the end zone. Why would an experienced qb not just protect the ball with 31 seconds left rather than stretching and exposing the ball? If he'd stayed airborne until it broke the plane, would it have been a touchdown even as he lost it?

And apparently something I missed was a down measurement where the ref checked the gap with a piece of paper?

Crazy games earlier, too. Having this picks game makes it a lot more fun to watch the season. But 3 close games in a row, I'd watch anyway.

Skol, Vikings! Next Saturday night should be good against the Pack.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
EdCollins
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December 17th, 2017 at 9:11:56 PM permalink
I'm not sure exactly what Collinsworth was referring to.

Yes, if Carr had broken the plane with that ball, that would have been a TD, even if he lost the ball a moment later. On a running play like that, the moment the ball breaks the plane it's a TD. He was attempting, of course, to do just that, by extending the ball. He wasn't planning on fumbling it.

All referee Gene Steratore was doing was using a visual aid in the form of a piece of paper to help him determine if the Cowboys had made a first down. THAT'S how close the tip of the ball was to end of the first down chain. It really wasn't a big deal. However, the media, as they often do, will eat that up tomorrow.

Tough day to be a Steelers fan (or just to have a bet on them), with the way that game finished.
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December 17th, 2017 at 10:01:53 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

I'm not sure exactly what Collinsworth was referring to.

Yes, if Carr had broken the plane with that ball, that would have been a TD, even if he lost the ball a moment later. On a running play like that, the moment the ball breaks the plane it's a TD. He was attempting, of course, to do just that, by extending the ball. He wasn't planning on fumbling it.

All referee Gene Steratore was doing was using a visual aid in the form of a piece of paper to help him determine if the Cowboys had made a first down. THAT'S how close the tip of the ball was to end of the first down chain. It really wasn't a big deal. However, the media, as they often do, will eat that up tomorrow.

Tough day to be a Steelers fan (or just to have a bet on them), with the way that game finished.



The only good thing to come out of that was it pushed with Steelers +3. I was foolish enough to feel false hope when they called that defense pass interference. Alas...
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December 18th, 2017 at 8:36:50 PM permalink
Unofficial Week 15 Results and Current Standings

Mission146 (4-0)
Bills -3 (win)
Jets +15.5 (win)
Rams OVER 47.5 (win)
49ers -1.5 (win)
Cowboys -3 (push)

WizardofNothing (4-2)
Eagles -7.5 Confidence (loss)
Eagles OVER 40.5 (win)
Ravens -7 (win)
Dolphins OVER 39 (win)
Vikings -11 (win)

Romes (4-2)
Panthers -3 (win)
Vikings -11 (win)
Bills -3 (win)
Jaguars -11 (win)
Saints -15.5 Confidence (loss)

DLW6486 (3-2)
Giants UNDER 40.5 (loss)
Panthers OVER 47 (win)
Steelers UNDER 54.5 (win)
Raiders OVER 45.5 (loss)
Vikings UNDER 42 (win)

GordonM888 (3-2)
Texans +11 (loss)
Saints -15.5 (loss)
Redskins -4 (win)
Patriots -3 (push)
49ers -1.5 Confidence (win)

odiousgambit (1-3)
Bengals +11 (loss)
Ravens -7 (win)
Packers +3 (loss)
Cowboys -3 (push)
Falcons -6 (loss)

SOOPOO (1-5)
Bengals + 11 (Confidence) (loss)
Jets +15.5 (win)
Browns + 7 (loss)
Texans +11 (loss)
Titans +1.5 (loss)

RISINGDOUGH (2-3)
Bills -3 (win)
Patriots -3 (push)
Titans +1.5 Confidence (loss)
Ravens -7 (win)
Texans +11 (loss)

JOHNNYQ (1-4)
Bengals (+11) (loss)
Texans (+11) (loss)
Jets (+15.5) (win)
Raiders (+3) (push)
Titans (+1.5) Confidence (loss)

DrZin (3-2)
Panthers (-3) (win)
Bills (-3) (win)
Seahawks (-2) (loss)
Titans (+1.5) (loss)
Buccaneers (+6) (win)

JohnZimbo (3-2)
Saints -15.5 Confidence (loss)
Rams +2 (win)
Panthers -3 (win)
Patriots -3 (push)
Redskins -4 (win)

Rainman (0-3)
Cowboys -3 Confidence (push)
Seahawks -2 (loss)
Dolphins +3 (loss)
Steelers +3 (push)
Browns +7 (loss)

Jplot (1-4)
Texans +11 (loss)
Raiders +3 (push)
Rams +2 (win)
Cardinals OVER 41 (loss)
Titans +1.5 Confidence (loss)

KMUMF (1-3)
Eagles UNDER 40.5 (loss)
Dolphins +3 (loss)
Jaguars -11 (win)
Cowboys -3 (push)
Falcons -6 (loss)

JW17 (4-2)
Jets (+15.5) Confidence (win)
Browns (+7) (loss)
Bengals (+11) (loss)
Giants (+7.5) (win)
Buccaneers (+6) (win)

Terapined (3-2)
Bucs +6 (win)
Ravens -7 (win)
Cardinals +4 (loss)
Jets +15.5 (win)
Texans +11 (loss)

PlayYourCardsRight (3-1)
Bills -3 Confidence (win)
Raiders +3 (push)
Redskins -4 (win)
Seahawks -2 (loss)
Steelers +3 (push)

Wizard (2-1)
Giants (+7.5) (win)
Cardinals (+4) (loss)
Rams (+2) (win)
Steelers (+3) Confidence (push)
Raiders (+3) (push)

BeachBumBabs (4-1)
Eagles -7.5 (loss)
Vikings -11 Confidence (win)
Ravens -7 (win)
Raiders +3 (push)
Jets +15.5 (win)

EdCollins (1-2)
Seahawks -2 (loss)
Cowboys -3 Confidence (push)
Falcons -6 (loss)
Steelers +3 (push)
49ers -1.5 (win)

Sparty10k (3-2)
Dolphins +3 (loss)
Cardinals +4 (loss)
Ravens -7 (win)
49ers -1.5 Confidence (win)
Patriots-3 (push)

miplet (1-5)
Texans +11 Confidence (loss)
Saints UNDER 47.5 (loss)
Seahawks UNDER 47.5 (loss)
Steelers UNDER 54.5 (win)
Buccaneers OVER 48.5 (loss)

MidwestAP (3-2)
Bills -3 (win)
Texans OVER 38 (win)
Saints UNDER 47.5 (loss)
Rams +2 (win)
Titans +1.5 (loss)

Name Wins Losses %
MidwestAP 47 32 59.49%
WizardofNothing 52 36 59.09%
Wizard 49 36 57.65%
Romes 46 36 56.10%
BeachBumBabs 47 37 55.95%
Mission146 38 30 55.88%
terapined 40 32 55.56%
EdCollins 42 34 55.26%
JohnnyQ 40 33 54.79%
Sparty10k 45 38 54.22%
DLW6486 39 34 53.42%
miplet 46 42 52.27%
Gordonm888 41 38 51.90%
JohnZimbo 44 41 51.76%
rainman 36 35 50.70%
KMUMF 34 35 49.28%
JPlot 37 41 47.44%
DrZin 35 39 47.30%
PlayYourCardsRight 35 39 47.30%
SOOPOO 40 45 47.06%
GenWyzgy 35 41 46.05%
RisingDough 37 47 44.05%
JW17 36 49 42.35%
odiousgambit 25 41 37.88%
Totals 966 911 51.47%


Record of Skip Weeks:
GenWyzgy: Week 15
Gordonm888: Week 4
JPlot: Week 10
KMUMF: Week 2
Mission146: Week 6
odiousgambit: Week 5
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 7
rainman: Week 7
Romes: Week 4
JohnnyQ
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December 21st, 2017 at 6:56:35 AM permalink
Just got off a cruise and checked standings, arrgghh, total free fall.

Advice for anyone who books the Carnival Liberty out of Port Canaveral:

Step 1: lower your expectations

Step 2: lower them a little more, ok keep going, a little more, ok, right there.
There's emptiness behind their eyes There's dust in all their hearts They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
JW17
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December 21st, 2017 at 1:53:11 PM permalink
I'm trying to tank and NOW I start winning!!! UGH

I have always done well in this contest except for this year, so I am trying to be the worst and it is not working.
odiousgambit
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December 22nd, 2017 at 5:33:22 AM permalink
if it was easy to pick the losers, then of course you could pick the other side instead and it would be just as easy to pick the winners
the next time Dame Fortune toys with your heart, your soul and your wallet, raise your glass and praise her thus: “Thanks for nothing, you cold-hearted, evil, damnable, nefarious, low-life, malicious monster from Hell!”   She is, after all, stone deaf. ... Arnold Snyder
Mission146
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December 22nd, 2017 at 10:32:15 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 16 Lines are as follows:

Lions (-3.5) @ Bengals (+3.5) O/U 44
Chargers (-6.5) @ Jets (+6.5) O/U 42.5
Rams (-6.5) @ Titans (+6.5) O/U 47
Browns (+6.5) @ Bears (-6.5) O/U 38
Buccaneers (+10) @ Panthers (-10) O/U 46.5
Falcons (+5.5) @ Saints (-5.5) O/U 52.5
Broncos (+3.5) @ Redskins (-3.5) O/U 40.5
Dolphins (+10.5) @ Chiefs (-10.5) O/U 43.5
Bills (+12) @ Patriots (-12) O/U 47
Jaguars (-4.5) @ 49ers (+4.5) O/U 42
Giants (+3) @ Cardinals (-3) O/U 40
Seahawks (+5) @ Cowboys (-5) O/U 47
Steelers (-9.5) @ Texans (+9.5) O/U 45.5
Raiders (+9) @ Eagles (-9) O/U 47.5
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
SOOPOO
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December 23rd, 2017 at 10:46:51 AM permalink
Eagles NINE point favorite with back up QB?
Falcons MORE than a FG underdog?
Giants ONLY a FG road dog versus anyone?
They are actually gonna play the Bears-Browns game?
Seahawks- Cowboys now termed the Mediocre Bowl?
onenickelmiracle
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December 23rd, 2017 at 12:43:07 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Eagles NINE point favorite with back up QB?
Falcons MORE than a FG underdog?
Giants ONLY a FG road dog versus anyone?
They are actually gonna play the Bears-Browns game?
Seahawks- Cowboys now termed the Mediocre Bowl?

it all seems plausible. Hard to think Seattle will do anything though. Zeke might look good, but he has to prove he will be good and ready.
I am a robot.
onenickelmiracle
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December 23rd, 2017 at 5:55:05 PM permalink
Delete.
I am a robot.
Mission146
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December 24th, 2017 at 8:39:01 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 16 Picks are as follows:

Mission146:
Dolphins +10.5
Cowboys -5
Jaguars -4.5
Giants OVER 40
Cowboys OVER 47

WizardofNothing:
Panthers -10
Chiefs -10.5-CONFIDENCE
Chargers -6.5
Jaguars -4.5
Cowboys -5

DLW6486:
Chiefs OVER 43.5
Cardinals OVER 40-CONFIDENCE
Bears OVER 38
Seahawks +5
Saints -5.5

Romes:
Bears -6.5
Panthers -10
Saints -5.5
Redskins -3.5
Chiefs -10.5 CONFIDENCE

GordonM888:
Chargers -6.5
Titans +6.5
Redskins -3.5
49ers +4.5
Raiders +9 Confidence

JohnZimbo:
Bengals +3.5
Browns +6.5
Falcons +5.5 confidence
49ers +4.5
Panthers under 46.5

BeachBumBabs:
Lions -3.5
Saints - 5.5 confidence
Chargers -6.5
Bills +12
Jaguars -4.5

JOHNNYQ:
Bengals (+3.5)
Redskins (-3.5)
49ers (+4.5)
Seahawks (+5)
Texans (+9.5)

DRZIN:
Bengals (+3.5)
Titans (+6.5)
49ers (+4.5)
Cardinals (-3)
Texans (+9.5)

JW17:
Broncos (+3.5) Confidence
Browns (+6.5)
Jets (+6.5)
Texans (+9.5)
Raiders (+9)

PlayYourCardsRight:
Bills +12
Cowboys -5
Giants OVER 40
Bengals +3.5
Rams -6.5

RisingDough:
Raiders+9 *CONFIDENCE
Giants+3
49ers+4.5
Bengals+3.5
Patriots-12

odiousgambit:
Lions -3.5
Rams -6.5
Chargers -6.5
Steelers -9.5
Patriots -12

SOOPOO:
Bills + 12 (confidence)
49ers +4.5
Bengals +3.5
Falcons +5.5
Raiders +9

rainman:
cowboys -5 confidence
Dolphins + 10.5
Browns +6.5
Rams -6.5
Bengals +3.5

Wizard:
Bengals (+3.5) -- confidence
Falcons (+5.5)
Broncos (+3.5)
49ers (+4.5)
Seahawks (+5)

GenWyzgy:
Bengals +3.5
Jets OVER 42.5
Bills +12
Giants OVER 40 CONFIDENCE
Falcons +5.5

KMUMF:
Bengals +3.5
Chargers -6.5
Titans +6.5
Browns +6.5 Confidence
Raiders +9

Terapined:
Bucs +10
Broncos +3.5
Bills+12
Dolphins +10.5
Texans +9.5

EdCollins:
Lions -3.5 (Confidence)
Redskins -3.5
Chargers -6.5
Falcons +5.5
Bears -6.5

miplet:
Bengals +3.5
Broncos +3.5-confidence
Bills +12
49ers +4.5
Texans +9.5

Sparty10k:
Lions -3.5
Rams -6.5
Falcons +5.5
Bills under 47-confidence
Jaguars -4.5

MidwestAP:
SKIPS WEEK 16
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
EdCollins
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December 24th, 2017 at 8:44:48 AM permalink
No picks for JPlot? (This would be a second skipped week.)
Mission146
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December 24th, 2017 at 8:50:24 AM permalink
NOTE FOR ALL UNOFFICIALLY AND OFFICIALLY FOR EDCOLLINS:

It appears as if JPLOT did not submit Picks this week AND that he has already used his Skip Week.

That being the case, absent any evidence of a prior default strategy, (I looked and don't see one, but if he says there is, I'll look again) he is effectively eliminated as he only qualifies for first place and is mathematically eliminated from that. Thus, I will ask that his record be frozen and that no 0-5 be added to him for this week.

PERSONAL SIDE NOTE:

I almost didn't Pick this week in favor of freezing my record! I just want to state, for the record, that I do not feel good about a single one of my Picks. I got up this morning and starting looking at the lines, basically just muttering, "Blah," for each one. I don't know if it was the books originally, or the public moved the numbers to about where I thought they should be by the time lines were posted...

I'll stick my neck out and say I like the Dolphins pick a wee little bit, 58% confidence. I don't love any of them. I want to say I like Cowboys over ever so slightly. My confidence level on that is 50.4675%.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
SOOPOO
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December 25th, 2017 at 7:46:39 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

NOTE FOR ALL UNOFFICIALLY AND OFFICIALLY FOR EDCOLLINS:

It appears as if JPLOT did not submit Picks this week AND that he has already used his Skip Week.



Lazy ass son of mine.......
SOOPOO
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December 25th, 2017 at 8:04:56 AM permalink
Wiz is now 53-38, or 58.2 %

If he goes 5-1 he goes 58 - 39, and finishes just short of 60% at .5979. If he goes 6-0 he amazingly hits .6082. For those who don't remember, if he is above 60% I owe Mission $200. If below 60%, Mission owes me $100. Wiz has around a 3% chance of being perfect this week, assuming random picks. Assuming he really can pick 60%, he still is less than 8% to go 6-0. I like my bet, and if I lose, I will tip my hat to Wiz, and Mission for having the balls to make the bet.

By the way, if he goes 4-0, he ends at exactly 60%. I think Mission would win then.
EdCollins
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December 25th, 2017 at 8:35:28 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

By the way, if he goes 4-0, he ends at exactly 60%. I think Mission would win then.

I have the same bet with Mission as you do, and my notes say that at exactly .60, the bet is a push.
EdCollins
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December 25th, 2017 at 8:38:05 AM permalink
Also note that the Wiz could go 5-0, and if so that's also a win for Mission. (0.6042)
SOOPOO
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December 25th, 2017 at 8:38:59 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

I have the same bet with Mission as you do, and my notes say that at exactly .60, the bet is a push.



I didn't remember, and it is possible my bet is not the same, but likely it is. If it gets to that we can look back at the thread. I offered Mike $2 to take a bye week.....



(teasing)
EdCollins
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December 25th, 2017 at 8:40:01 AM permalink
If the Wiz had gone 3-3 (or worse) yesterday, the bet would be over, as even a 6-0 record this last week wouldn't put him at .60. (I knew this ahead of time and was rooting for just that!)
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