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August 13th, 2017 at 9:56:50 AM permalink
Greetings!

It is time, once again, for the WoV NFL Picks game!!!

WizardofNothing is donating a guaranteed $50 to the contest, but will increase his donation to $500 in the event that we have fifty (50) total players. Anyone can play, so if you have some friends, get them to join the Forum and participate in the game so we can get up to fifty participants!!!

I am donating $250 to the contest, but will up it to $500 if we hit fifty or more players:

If we hit fifty players, WoN's/My donations will break down as follows:

First Place: $300 + All Entry Fees ($250 Donated by WizardofNothing, $50 Donated by Me)
Second Place: $200 ($150 Donated by WizardofNothing, $50 Donated by Me)
Third Place: $150 ($100 Donated by WizardofNothing, $50 Donated by Me)

Most Average: $175 (Closest Record to .500, Donated by Me)
You Suck: $175 (Worst Record, Donated by Me)

The entry fee for this year shall be $25 per player, one player, one entry.

In the event that we DO NOT have fifty individual players, then my $250 shall be broken up as follows:

$100-First Place
$75-"Most Average"
$75-"You Suck"

WizardofNothing's $50 will be added to first place.

WizardofNothing will BOTH be defending his donations and be eligible to win the contest.

I will only be defending my donation, essentially. I can win any of the prizes, but I CANNOT win any Entry Fees. What that means is that, if I come in First Place, all Entry Fees will go to Second Place.

If WizardofNothing does not make the donation due to insufficient players, then I can, 'Defend,' only the amount of my donation for whatever prize I may win. Second place will get the prize pool if I am the winner.

THE RULES

HOW TO ENTER:

I will PM all individuals who played this game last year and all who indicate in this thread that they are interested with an invitation. I will also PM Members who have been Members for less than one year and have ten or more posts with an invitation. I will not PM Members with a longer tenure than that who have not played before because they have effectively already refused (either directly or by way of not playing) a previous invite.

Furthermore, I will PM all players who expressed interest last year in either the Discussion thread for the regular game or the Discussion thread for the Playoff version.

I expect to send all of these invites within the next seven days.

You DO NOT need an invitation to play. Please either PM me or indicate that you are interested in the Discussion thread and I will PM you with the payment options for your entry.

Payments MUST be received prior to kickoff on September 10th, 2017 (the first Sunday of the season) for week one entries to be valid, or if paying by a mail method, the envelope must have a post date on or prior to September 9th, 2017. Any envelopes with a post date after that for people who played Week 1 will be returned and the entry will be cancelled.

If you do not play during Week One, you may enter into the contest for Week 2 with Week 1 constituting your, "Skip," Week provided payments are received prior to kickoff (or postmarked) for September 16th, 2017 or earlier.

Entries cost $25 each. Each individual player may only enter once, however, if members of your household would like to enter and create a separate screen name, then that is fine.

HOW TO PLAY:

The Rules will be as follows:

Format:

Winner Take All for Prize Pool (There are also two consolation prizes)---If WoN donates $50

OR

1st-3rd will all get paid if we have 50+ players, and we will continue to have the, 'Most Average,' and, 'You Suck,' prizes.

Consolation Prizes:

The first consolation prize will be the, "You suck," consolation prize. This prize goes to the player with the worst record, if there is a tie, then the winner shall be adjudicated by the normal tie breaking Rule or the players may opt to split it.

The second consolation prize will be the, "Most Average," consolation prize which goes to the player that finishes the season closest to .500. Tiebreakers will also be adjudicated using the normal tie breaking Rule or the players may opt to split it.

Rules:

1.) The winner will be determined by having the highest winning percentage. In the event of a tie, the winners will have the option of either splitting the take, or they may agree to PM me a Super Bowl pick prior to the Super Bowl, but after the combatants are known, consisting of the winning team, spread and TD's thrown; the winner will be determined in that order. If two Members PM me the same thing, they will BOTH be asked to change at least one aspect of their picks.

2.) The procedure for this will be that at some point on Thursdays, I will post the point spreads and Over/Unders from one source per week. I will likely use VegasInsider and the Spreads & Over/Unders I post will be constant and may be picked at any time prior to 10:00 EST on that Sunday, if a Sunday game starts earlier than that, then you must have the Picks in before kickoff.

3.) Sunday/Monday games will be the only games considered. Every player must pick exactly five winners against the Spread, exactly five Over/Unders, or a combination totaling exactly five.

4.) Players may, "Skip," one week without making any picks, but they don't have to. If a player accidentally fails to submit picks, that will constitute the, "Skip," week.

For players who join the contest in Week 2, Week 1 will constitute the, "Skip," week.

5.) If a player fails to make picks for more than one week, he/she forfeits any right to a consolation prize, but may continue to play. Every week of missed picks other than the allotted, "Skip Week," will result in an 0-5 record for all weeks missed.

6.) Picks will be PM'ed to me at any point prior to 10:00 a.m. EST Sunday, all picks will be openly posted by me between then and 13:00 Sunday. (Usually)

***The exception to this Rule is that I will accept E-Mail Picks from banned Members, but only if they are banned. If you are banned, you can still receive PM's, so I will PM you my E-Mail address.

7.) At some point on Tuesday or Wednesday the picks, results and updated Standings will be posted by yours truly.

8.) CONFIDENCE PICK: You may make one, "Confidence Pick," per week, though you don't have to. Your, "Confidence Pick," must be made expressly clear in your PM. The CONFIDENCE PICK result will count either as two wins or two losses, if made.

TIME

1.) The first Sunday of the Season is September 10th, Lines will be posted on Thursday, September 7th.

PICK FORMAT

I WILL be enforcing a uniform Pick format this year for all Picks as of Week 3. For the first two weeks, if you send me Picks that are not in the correct format, I will acknowledge that I have received your Picks by re-sending them to you in the correct format. Since I'm throwing $250 into the prize pool of a game that I cannot win, I don't think I am asking for too much, here.

1.) No Line Breaks

2.) For Spread picks, simply put the team nickname and the spread. (Ex: Bengals +5)

3.) For Over/Unders, simply put the team nickname for EITHER team, and the Over or Under amount. (Ex: Bengals OVER 25)

4.) To designate a Confidence Pick, simply put a hyphen and, "Confidence," after the pick. (Ex: Bengals OVER 25-Confidence)

5.) Place your handle, without spaces, above your set of Picks followed by a colon(:)

So, a full set of picks might appear:

Mission146:
Patriots -15
Patriots OVER 52
Jaguars +12
Jaguars UNDER 42
Jets +4-Confidence

Let's have a great time, as always!
Last edited by: Mission146 on Aug 13, 2017
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August 13th, 2017 at 10:06:27 AM permalink
CHANGES TO THE GAME

Greetings!

I would like to take this opportunity to briefly highlight the differences between this year's game and last year's for those who have played before:

1.) The entry fee has been increased from $20 to $25.

2.) Last year, second and third place received nothing, that will not be the case this year if we have at least fifty players. Here is how the payouts will break down depending on the number of players:

LESS THAN FIFTY:

First Place: $150 + All Entry Fees ($100 donated by me and $50 donated by WizardofNothing)
Most Average: $75 (Closest record to .500, Donated by Me)
You Suck: $75 (Worst Record, Donated by Me)

FIFTY OR MORE PLAYERS:

First Place: $300 + All Entry Fees ($250 Donated by WizardofNothing, $50 Donated by Me)
Second Place: $200 ($150 Donated by WizardofNothing, $50 Donated by Me)
Third Place: $150 ($100 Donated by WizardofNothing, $50 Donated by Me)

Most Average: $175 (Closest Record to .500, Donated by Me)
You Suck: $175 (Worst Record, Donated by Me)

3.) METHODS OF PAYMENT OF ENTRY FEE

I will accept payment of the Entry Fee by the following methods, and will PM with more specifics:

1.) Electronic Transfer via the SquareCash App.---Preferred
2.) Electronic Transfer via the Venmo App---Preferred
3.) Amazon Gift Card---Preferred
4.) Personal Check
5.) Postal Money Order
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August 13th, 2017 at 10:11:59 AM permalink
Greetings!

The last thing for right now is that I would appreciate some help in pushing hard for at least fifty total players, given WizardofNothing's proposed donation, there is some serious added value in achieving this number of participants. His total donation will go from $50 to $500 if we end up with fifty or more players.

The entry fee is $25 and at exactly fifty players WizardofNothing will be donating $500, so that comes out to $10/player, which represents 40% of the entry fee.

Anyway, that's pretty huge in terms of added value. I believe my donation will be $250 no matter what happens, but I might decide to match WizardofNothing's $500. If I do, the extra $50 will be divided equally between (1st-3rd Place, Most Average and 'You Suck,' consolation prizes).

Actually, I'll tell you guys what: My additional $250 donation is also conditional upon us having fifty or more total players, if we get that many, then I'll do it.

That's an extra $700 donated to the total payout if we hit fifty or more players for $1,000 total. That would be 80% of the entry fees based on fifty players!!!
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Johnzimbo
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August 13th, 2017 at 10:30:28 AM permalink
I'm in again, and will see if a buddy or two might want to join and play.
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August 13th, 2017 at 10:56:21 AM permalink
ADDENDUM:

I have a few procedural things to address:

1.) I will usually PM a Picks Reminder sometime between Midnight-Noon on the Saturday before the Sunday upon which the Picks are due, However, these reminders are a courtesy and you are responsible for submitting your Picks in a timely fashion whether or not you receive a Reminder.

2.) If you do not wish to receive reminders, feel free to let me know. I can't promise you won't get them anyway, though. I usually just have a list of all of the participants in the game and cross off those from whom I have received Picks and then PM the rest in as close to an automated manner as a human being can come.

3.) Picks are due by 10:00a.m. EST on Sunday, and there will be NO MORE EXCEPTIONS to that Rule. It doesn't matter whether or not I have posted the Picks already, any Picks after 10:00 a.m. EST on Sunday are invalid.

4.) You may change your Picks as long as your corrected Picks are sent by 10:00a.m. EST on Sunday, but please try not to make a habit of it.

5.) Unless you are responding to a Reminder directly, please make it VERY CLEAR in your PM SUBJECT that your PM contains your Picks. The reason why is that I do not want to see any Picks prior to making my own.

6.) I will ABSOLUTELY be enforcing the formatting Rule starting with Week 3. You have no idea how much time proper formatting saves me. Again, here is the procedure for properly formatted Picks:

1.) No Line Breaks

2.) For Spread picks, simply put the team nickname and the spread. (Ex: Bengals +5)

3.) For Over/Unders, simply put the team nickname for EITHER team, and the Over or Under amount. (Ex: Bengals OVER 25)

4.) To designate a Confidence Pick, simply put a hyphen and, "Confidence," after the pick. (Ex: Bengals OVER 25-Confidence)

5.) Place your handle, without spaces, above your set of Picks followed by a colon(:)

So, a full set of picks might appear:

Mission146:
Patriots -15
Patriots OVER 52
Jaguars +12
Jaguars UNDER 42
Jets +4-Confidence


Thank you!
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August 13th, 2017 at 10:59:22 AM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

I'm in again, and will see if a buddy or two might want to join and play.



Excellent, glad to have you playing again! We definitely need to get to at least fifty players!

The details for payment will be included in the Reminder PM's, which you will still receive. I'm going to send those out to everyone who played last year at some point within the next twenty-four hours. To all New Members (within the last year) with at least ten posts, I'll get around to that sometime this week. I don't know when specifically, but it will be this week. Whenever I have three-four free hours, basically.
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August 13th, 2017 at 11:04:46 AM permalink
REMINDER:

I KNOW I HAVE SAID THIS ALREADY, BUT YOU'RE HEARING IT NOW AND WILL ALL PROBABLY HEAR IT AGAIN IN A PM OR TWO:

BEGINNING WITH WEEK 3, IF YOUR PICKS ARE NOT PROPERLY FORMATTED THEY WILL BE INVALID. FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS, I WILL SEND A PM CONFIRMING YOUR PICKS (THEY'LL BE IN THE THREAD, ANYWAY) AS WELL AS PRESENTING YOUR PICKS TO YOU IN A PROPERLY FORMATTED FASHION. I WILL ALSO EXPLAIN WHAT WAS INCORRECT ABOUT THE WAY THEY WERE FORMATTED.



I hate to be a stickler on this, but since I project that we will have 50+ players, I honestly don't have two hours every single week (especially since Picks are not due until 10:00a.m. Sunday anyway) to be correcting Picks so I can post them in a properly formatted way. It is essential that I just be able to copy/paste straight from the PM to the post containing the Picks.
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August 13th, 2017 at 3:36:14 PM permalink
I'm in. And hoping to not defend my title -- 2016 You Suck champion.
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August 13th, 2017 at 4:58:18 PM permalink
Mission, would wifey be able to play? She does not have a name on here but could make one but I don't want that to be an issue with IP things and socks and all.

Eta. I k ow your rules said members in same house but just want to verify that is allowed by forum rules.
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August 13th, 2017 at 5:10:38 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Mission, would wifey be able to play? She does not have a name on here but could make one but I don't want that to be an issue with IP things and socks and all.

Eta. I k ow your rules said members in same house but just want to verify that is allowed by forum rules.



That's correct, Forum Rules prohibit one Member from having multiple accounts, but I don't believe it was ever intended that two people residing in the same house would be prohibited from having individual accounts.

Furthermore, we would also be aware of the handle corresponding to your wife's account. As a result, we would expect to see the same IP Address coming from those two accounts and that would not be a problem. I can't speak for everyone else, but I only go to looking at IP addresses if I actually strongly suspect someone of being a sock AND they violate some other rule, anyway.
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