Mission146
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October 22nd, 2017 at 9:24:22 AM permalink
My ruling on the first issue was made because:

1.) The mistake was very clear.
2.) I don't think anyone would make seven Picks.
3.) Even if all seven Picks COULD count, I don't think there is any reason one would make opposing Picks.

As far as Romes goes, I'll leave that up to a vote. I generally accept Picks as long as Picks have not yet been posted, but they CAN be posted as early as 10:00a.m. EST, and that is when they are due. With respect to Romes' Picks that one week I did NOT allow them because:

1.) Picks had been posted.

AND

2.) The games had already started, just not the games that he selected.

I understand that he was busy, but my issue is that we're not even talking about the 10:00a.m. EST time that they are due, or that everyone's Picks had been posted, but also that actual football games had started. I had posted the Picks at 12:35p.m., so anytime that time or prior (and before the start of any games) and I would have accepted them.

On the other hand, perhaps it could be considered a disadvantage to him that he could not pick any of the 1:00p.m. games.

Here is my proposed solution, because I want to be fair to everyone:

1.) We accept Romes' Picks for Week 4 and the 4-2 record that goes with them as well as restore Romes' bye week, but:

A.) Romes will have to win outright or take a consolation prize outright to win it. The tiebreaker rule shall not apply. The reason that I make this suggestion is because giving Romes the week makes no practical difference unless he actually wins some sort of prize. In the event Romes does not win any of the prizes, then what does it matter?

B.) Picks are due at 10:00a.m. EST and from now on no Picks submitted after 10:00a.m. will be considered regardless of whether or not I have posted the Picks yet.

C.) Everyone shall be responsible for making sure their Picks reflect what they want according to the formatting Rules. Any further mistakes will result in the use of the BYE WEEK or an 0-5 record if said Bye Week has already been used.

---All strict, the rest of the way. Is everyone cool with that?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
terapined
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October 22nd, 2017 at 9:52:05 AM permalink
I am cool with that :-)
Hope everybody in your family is ok

Most love
Broncos 9
Bengals 7
Ravens 7
Panthers 7
49ers 7

Little or No Love
Cards 0
Falcons 1
Redskins 1
Bears 1


Unbeaten teams getting lots of love
49ers 7 Browns 6

Lopsided action
Panthers 7 Bears 1

Unusual action Titans Browns under 4
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Romes
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October 22nd, 2017 at 10:31:31 AM permalink
Mission, I appreciate the consideration, it I’ll just bow out of the conflict now. I’m not going to win and just playing for the giggles and to try to help everyone get to X amount of people for the bonuses. The last 3 weeks I’ve elected to just allow my “default” plan :p. Still waiting for that one to pay off! So again I appreciate it, but I’ll just stick with my bye week burned and defaulting my picks.
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October 22nd, 2017 at 10:43:57 AM permalink
I agree with the decision regarding JohnnyQ. Regarding Romes picks, I think they should still be considered a bye week, as the ruling was made independent of the outcome of his selections.
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October 22nd, 2017 at 11:20:14 AM permalink
I slept thru the 10 am deadline, but could have made picks before they were posted. Already thought it was a hard deadline. It's my bye week. Hope everyone goes unbeaten!
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October 22nd, 2017 at 1:37:55 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

My ruling on the first issue was made because:

1.) The mistake was very clear.
2.) I don't think anyone would make seven Picks.
3.) Even if all seven Picks COULD count, I don't think there is any reason one would make opposing Picks.

As far as Romes goes, I'll leave that up to a vote. I generally accept Picks as long as Picks have not yet been posted, but they CAN be posted as early as 10:00a.m. EST, and that is when they are due. With respect to Romes' Picks that one week I did NOT allow them because:

1.) Picks had been posted.

AND

2.) The games had already started, just not the games that he selected.

I understand that he was busy, but my issue is that we're not even talking about the 10:00a.m. EST time that they are due, or that everyone's Picks had been posted, but also that actual football games had started. I had posted the Picks at 12:35p.m., so anytime that time or prior (and before the start of any games) and I would have accepted them.

On the other hand, perhaps it could be considered a disadvantage to him that he could not pick any of the 1:00p.m. games.

Here is my proposed solution, because I want to be fair to everyone:

1.) We accept Romes' Picks for Week 4 and the 4-2 record that goes with them as well as restore Romes' bye week, but:

A.) Romes will have to win outright or take a consolation prize outright to win it. The tiebreaker rule shall not apply. The reason that I make this suggestion is because giving Romes the week makes no practical difference unless he actually wins some sort of prize. In the event Romes does not win any of the prizes, then what does it matter?

B.) Picks are due at 10:00a.m. EST and from now on no Picks submitted after 10:00a.m. will be considered regardless of whether or not I have posted the Picks yet.

C.) Everyone shall be responsible for making sure their Picks reflect what they want according to the formatting Rules. Any further mistakes will result in the use of the BYE WEEK or an 0-5 record if said Bye Week has already been used.

---All strict, the rest of the way. Is everyone cool with that?



I have no problem with any of this. This is just for fun right? If I am hard up enough to cheat for this pool I have problems, I am not saying Romes was trying to cheat. I'm cool with whatever, I just enjoy the game and would hate to see someone dropped when yes it was against the rules, but not malicious at all.
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October 22nd, 2017 at 3:32:02 PM permalink
I'm so close to giving up on making confidence picks. Another wash. Sigh. Better than a loss, I guess, but it's like I hex them.

Otoh, skol, Vikings! I lost faith with all the starters out, and they go and win again without them. Yeesh. Good thing nobody's betting my picks. Lol..
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October 22nd, 2017 at 3:51:11 PM permalink
Quote: terapined


Most love
Broncos 9
Bengals 7
Ravens 7
Panthers 7
49ers 7

Little or No Love
Cards 0
Falcons 1
Redskins 1
Bears 1



Those 5 most popular picks: the Bengals, Ravens, Panthers and 49-ers all lost ATS, and the Broncos are down 14-0 as I write this. It looks like 0-5.

But, I am a member of the WOV Sucking Majority. I also had the Bengals, Ravens and Broncos. It looks like I will finish either 1-5 or 0-6 -after a 1-5 for last week. Good pickers are known as 'sharps' - I clearly must be one of the 'dulls.'
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Romes
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October 23rd, 2017 at 7:13:45 AM permalink
Finally my default strat worked! ...well with 2 pushes... weird, but yay a week that helps.

I really wish I'd made the patriots -3 my confidence too. I didn't look at that until later and was like, yeah that needs to be a bet.
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October 23rd, 2017 at 8:44:51 PM permalink
Unofficial Week 7 Results and Current Standings

Mission146 (2-3)
Bengals +5.5 (loss)
Panthers -3 (loss)
Broncos PK (loss)
Browns UNDER 45.5 (win)
Patriots UNDER 56.5 (win)

WizardofNothing (6-0)
Eagles -4.5 Confidence (win)
Eagles OVER 49 (win)
Cowboys -6 (win)
Cowboys OVER 48.5 (win)
Patriots -3 (win)

DLW6486 (3-1)
Patriots -3 (win)
Steelers -5.5 (win)
49ers +6 (loss)
Browns +6 (win)
Dolphins -3 (push)

GordonM888 (0-6)
Ravens (+5.5) (loss)
Packers (+4) (loss)
Bengals (+5.5) (loss)
Broncos (PK) Confidence (loss)
Falcons (+3) (loss)

JW17 (2-3)
Titans (-6) (loss)
Jaguars (-3) (win)
Broncos (PK) Confidence (loss)
Eagles (-4.5) (win)
Bills (-3) (push)

RisingDough (1-5)
Browns +6 (win)
Panthers -3 Confidence (loss)
Packers +4 (loss)
49ers +6 (loss)
Giants OVER 40 (loss)

odiousgambit (3-2)
Broncos (PK) (loss)
Seahawks -4 (win)
Panthers -3 (loss)
Cowboys -6 (win)
Jaguars -3 (win)

SOOPOO (2-3)
49ers + 6 (Confidence) (loss)
Seahawks-4 (win)
Saints-4 (win)
Bucs+3 (push)
Bengals+ 5.5 (loss)

JohnZimbo (2-3)
Browns UNDER 45.5 (win)
Steelers UNDER 40.5 (loss)
Bills UNDER 45 (loss)
Rams UNDER 45.5 (win)
Falcons OVER 56.6 (loss)

JPlot (0-5)
Ravens +5.5 (loss)
49ers +6 (loss)
49ers UNDER 48.5 (loss)
Giants +4 (loss)
Rams OVER 45.5 (loss)

terapined (2-2)
Browns +6 (win)
Ravens +5.5 (loss)
Bucs +3 (push)
49ers +6 (loss)
Eagles -4.5 (win)

johnnyQ (3-2)
Browns (+6) (win)
Saints (-4) (win)
Giants (+4) (loss)
Chargers (PK) (win)
Redskins (+4.5) (loss)

DrZin (1-3)
Colts (+3) (loss)
Bengals (+5.5) (loss)
Dolphins (-3) (push)
Giants (+4) (loss)
Chargers (PK) (win)

KMUMF (3-1)
Rams -3 (win)
Panthers -3 (loss)
Buccaneers +3 (push)
Cowboys -6 (win)
Eagles -4.5 (win)

EdCollins (2-1)
Saints -4 (win)
Colts +3 (loss)
Rams -3 (win)
Dolphins -3 (push)
Bills -3 (push)

miplet (2-4)
Browns +6 (win)
Browns UNDER 45.5 (win)
Bengals +5.5 (loss)
Ravens +5.5 (loss)
Broncos PK Confidence (loss)

Genwyzgy (2-3)
Bengals OVER 40.5 (win)
Bills -3 (push)
Panthers -3 Confidence (loss)
Saints -4 (win)
Broncos PK (loss)

MidwestAP (2-3)
Ravens +5.5 (loss)
Cowboys -6 (win)
Giants +4 (loss)
Broncos PK (loss)
Browns UNDER 45.5 (win)

Beachbumbabs (2-2)
Ravens +5.5 (loss)
Bills -3 Confidence (push)
Bears +3 (win)
Saints -4 (win)
Colts +3 (loss)

Sparty10k (3-2)
Titans -6 (loss)
Vikings -5.5 Confidence (win)
Jets +3 (push)
49ers +6 (loss)
Eagles -4.5 (win)

Romes (4-0)
Steelers -5.5 (win)
Vikings -5.5 (win)
Dolphins -3 (push)
Bills -3 (push)
Rams -3 Confidence (win)

Wizard (1-4)
Browns +6 (win)
Colts +3 (loss)
Bengals +5.5 Confidence (loss)
Ravens +5.5 (loss)
Jets +3 (push)

Name Wins Losses %
JohnnyQ 23 11 67.65%
Wizard 26 14 65.00%
MidwestAP 24 14 63.16%
Mission146 18 11 62.07%
terapined 20 13 60.61%
WizardofNothing 23 18 56.10%
JohnZimbo 22 18 55.00%
rainman 17 14 54.84%
DLW6486 18 15 54.55%
EdCollins 19 16 54.29%
RisingDough 20 17 54.05%
BeachBumBabs 19 19 50.00%
DrZin 17 17 50.00%
KMUMF 14 14 50.00%
Romes 17 17 50.00%
Sparty10k 20 20 50.00%
miplet 20 21 48.78%
JW17 19 20 48.72%
Gordonm888 17 19 47.22%
SOOPOO 18 21 46.15%
GenWyzgy 17 20 45.95%
JPlot 18 22 45.00%
odiousgambit 12 16 42.86%
PlayYourCardsRight 10 22 31.25%
Totals 448 409 52.28%



Record of Skip Weeks:

Gordonm888: Week 4
KMUMF: Week 2
Mission146: Week 6
odiousgambit: Week 5
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 7
rainman: Week 7
Romes: Week 4

Note that Face has been removed from the standings, per his request.
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October 23rd, 2017 at 9:02:17 PM permalink
I went 0-6, and in the 5 games that I picked for Week 7, I failed to cover by a total of 51 points. Has anyone done worse then that this year? Ever?
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October 24th, 2017 at 3:11:10 AM permalink
The field for "most average ie closest to 0.500" gets a little more crowded. And only 8 out of 22 selections were in positive territory.
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Romes
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October 24th, 2017 at 10:00:00 AM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

The field for "most average ie closest to 0.500" gets a little more crowded. And only 8 out of 22 selections were in positive territory.

Hey, there's nothing wrong with being average =P. Congrats again on claiming the top spot! 67.65% is impressive. Do you claim to have a deeper understanding of the games/spread/etc? For example: I look at some simple stuff, but I don't really fully know what I'm doing, admittedly. I'm always impressed by you sports guys for knowing so many levels of information about games/teams/players/etc.
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terapined
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October 24th, 2017 at 10:58:23 AM permalink
I'm 5th place at 60.61%
Just throwing darts at a board :-)
Barely following any team
I actually feel sorry for the players. CTE
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JohnnyQ
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October 24th, 2017 at 2:29:24 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Do you claim to have a deeper understanding of the games/spread/etc?

Absolutely not, not at all ! In fact, one of the only real sports bets I have made in Vegas was for Maryland +31 vs Ohio State a couple of weeks ago. That didn't work out so well for me.

But let's also not forget the most important part of all this, ie that someone, somehow, dethrones the Wiz this year. Midwest, Mission, and Terapined, are you with me ? So say we all !

I don't have any illusions that it will be me, and who knows, maybe you will even scramble to the top with a couple of good weeks of picks in a row. [ On the other hand, I would be willing to entertain a small wager that you don't, ROMES..... ;-) ].

I do think it's fun to make picks and see how they come out.
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October 24th, 2017 at 2:38:03 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I went 0-6, and in the 5 games that I picked for Week 7, I failed to cover by a total of 51 points. Has anyone done worse then that this year? Ever?

Now look at the bright side G888, that's one better than the 49er's and the Browns record this season !
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Mission146
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October 27th, 2017 at 2:06:19 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 8 Lines are as follows:

Vikings (-9.5) @ Browns (+9.5) O/U 38
Bears (+9) @ Saints (-9) O/U 47.5
Falcons (-6) @ Jets (+6) O/U 44.5
Panthers (+1.5) @ Buccaneers (-1.5) O/U 46
49ers (+12.5) @ Eagles (-12.5) O/U 45
Raiders (+2.5) @ Bills (-2.5) O/U 45.5
Colts (+10.5) @ Bengals (-10.5) O/U 42
Chargers (+7) @ Patriots (-7) O/U 48
Texans (+6) @ Seahawks (-6) O/U 45.5
Cowboys (-2) @ Redskins (+2) O/U 49
Steelers (-3) @ Lions (+3) O/U 47
Broncos (+7) @ Chiefs (-7) O/U 43
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 28th, 2017 at 11:47:13 AM permalink
Note: Mission's deadline for our picks is 10:00 a.m. EST tomorrow.

However, if you pick the Vikings/Browns game, make sure this pick is posted before 9:29 am EST tomorrow. This game has an earlier start time. This game is being played at Twickenham Stadium and is scheduled to start at 9:30 am EST.
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October 28th, 2017 at 3:08:36 PM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

Note: Mission's deadline for our picks is 10:00 a.m. EST tomorrow.

However, if you pick the Vikings/Browns game, make sure this pick is posted before 9:29 am EST tomorrow. This game has an earlier start time. This game is being played at Twickenham Stadium and is scheduled to start at 9:30 am EST.



This should only affect BBB, our resident Vikings fan :)
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October 28th, 2017 at 5:28:55 PM permalink
Quote: Johnzimbo

This should only affect BBB, our resident Vikings fan :)



Why, yes, it did! Skol, Vikings!

I think it's the braids. ;-)
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October 29th, 2017 at 8:49:42 AM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 8 Picks are as follows:

Mission146:
Falcons -6
Cowboys -2
Steelers UNDER 47
Chargers UNDER 48
Cowboys UNDER 49

WizardofNothing:
Eagles -12.5 CONFIDENCE
Eagles OVER 45
Cowboys -2
Cowboys OVER 49
Chiefs -7

DLW6486:
Bears +9
Colts +10.5
Bears OVER 47.5
Colts OVER 42
49ers OVER 45

RisingDough
Saints +9
Panthers +1.5 CONFIDENCE
Eagles -12.5
Patriots -7
Redskins +2

Romes:
Buccaneers -1.5
49ers + 12.5
Bills -2.5
Seahawks -6
Patriots - 7 CONFIDENCE

johnnyq:
Jets (+6)
Panthers (+1.5)
Colts (+10.5)
Redskins (+2)
Steelers (-3)

dr zin:
Browns (+9.5)
Bears (+9)
Jets (+6)
Colts (+10.5)
Redskins (+2)

PlayYourCardsRight:
Bills -2.5
Chiefs -7
Vikings OVER
Cowboys OVER
Bengals -10.5

KMUMF:
Buccaneers -1.5
Bills -2.5
Seahawks -6
Steelers -3
Cowboys -2

OdiousGambit:
Redskins +2
Broncos UNDER 43
Colts +10.5
Colts UNDER 42
Bears +9

SOOPOO:
Raiders+2.5
49ers+12.5
Chargers+7
Lions+3
Broncos+7 (Confidence)

JohnZimbo:
Saints -9
Bills -2.5
Panthers +1.5
Cowboys under 49
Falcons -6

Wizard:
Raiders (+2.5)
Patriots (-7)
Seahawks (-6) -- confidence
Lions (+3)
Panthers (+1.5)

Sparty10k:
Bears under 47.5
Bears +9
Jets +6
Panthers +1.5-confidence
Cowboys -2

JW17:
Browns (+9.5)
Bears (+9)
49ers (+12.5)
Colts (+10.5)
Broncos (+7) CONFIDENCE

BeachBumBabs:
Vikings - 9.5
Vikings OVER 38
Patriots -7
Chiefs -7 confidence
Colts +10.5

JPlot:
Jets +6
Panthers +1.5 CONFIDENCE
Colts OVER 42
Cowboys UNDER 49
Lions +3

Genwyzgy:
Jets +6
Steelers -3
Raiders OVER 45.5
Patriots-7
Chargers OVER 48

Gordonm888:
Lions (+3) -Confidence
Panthers (+1.5)
Colts (+10.5)
Texans (+6)
Chargers (+7)

terapined:
Bucs -1.5
49ers +12.5
Cowboys -2
Colts +10.5
Browns +9.5

EdCollins:
Vikings -9.5
Eagles -12.5
Chargers +7
Cowboys -2
Lions +3

rainman:
Seahawks -6
Cowboys -2
49ers +12.5
Panthers +1.5
Bears +9

miplet:
Saints UNDER 47.5
Falcons -6
Seahawks -6-confidence
Redskins UNDER 49
Lions UNDER 47

MidwestAP:
Falcons -6
Bills OVER 45.5
Seahawks -6
Cowboys UNDER 49
Lions UNDER 47
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 29th, 2017 at 9:34:44 AM permalink
Most Love
Panthers 11
Seahawks 8
Colts 8

Least Love
Texans 1
Bengals 1

Lopsided action
Seahawks 8 Texans 1
Colts 8 Bengals 1

Most Action
Cowboys 7 Redskins 4 Over 2 Under 5
Panthers 11 Bucs 3
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October 29th, 2017 at 1:01:08 PM permalink
Just so no confusion my pick was Saints -9, which looks like a loser with 2 mins left. My typo was I put Saints +9 but my pick is indeed the Saints.

RD
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October 29th, 2017 at 1:09:41 PM permalink
Quote: RisingDough

Just so no confusion my pick was Saints -9, which looks like a loser with 2 mins left. My typo was I put Saints +9 but my pick is indeed the Saints.
RD

Thanks.

My scoring macro ignores all spreads and over/unders that are entered by the player. Instead, for all games, it looks at the team that is listed and uses the spread I enter. (For this reason, all players could just list the team they want, and not list the spread at all.)
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October 29th, 2017 at 1:21:00 PM permalink
Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! (Arnold Horseshack quote)

I'm 4-0! Holy crud! Just have....

The Chiefs left....

Confidence pick. Oh, sh!#.

Never mind....

Tomorrow night. Agony to wait. How many years have I played this damned game, 4 now? Not sure I've ever had an undefeated week.

Break the curse!
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October 29th, 2017 at 5:04:40 PM permalink
Quote: terapined


Lopsided action
Seahawks 8 Texans 1
Colts 8 Bengals 1



I was the solitary person who had the Texans. Doing my happy dance! (Also had the Colts, LOL.)
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October 30th, 2017 at 8:22:54 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Ooh! Ooh! Ooh! (Arnold Horseshack quote)

I'm 4-0! Holy crud! Just have....

The Chiefs left....

Confidence pick. Oh, sh!#.

Never mind....

Tomorrow night. Agony to wait. How many years have I played this damned game, 4 now? Not sure I've ever had an undefeated week.

Break the curse!



Dear WoV Picks Game & Kansas City Chiefs;

My daughter has not had the opportunity to have a perfect week in her four years of playing this contest. Please allow the Kansas City Chiefs to win this game in a rout so she may achieve the perfection she desires.

Signed,
BBB's Motha
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JohnnyQ
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October 30th, 2017 at 4:40:03 PM permalink
It doesn't look like the Wiz had a very good week, so this could be interesting.....

This was the 60+ % club LAST WEEK:

JohnnyQ 23 11 67.65%
Wizard 26 14 65.00%
MidwestAP 24 14 63.16%
Mission146 18 11 62.07%
terapined 20 13 60.61%

There's emptiness behind their eyes There's dust in all their hearts They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
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October 30th, 2017 at 5:53:16 PM permalink
I went 2-3, would have been better if the Cowboys don't get the pick 6 with under 20 seconds left for the backdoor over, beating my under pick, grrrr.
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October 30th, 2017 at 6:48:42 PM permalink
4-1 for me I think, which is just one more 4-1 week away from hitting the 70 % barrier. I'm not optimistic. But even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
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October 30th, 2017 at 8:38:39 PM permalink
Unofficial Week 8 Results and Current Standings

Mission146 (3-2)
Falcons -6 (loss)
Cowboys -2 (win)
Steelers UNDER 47 (win)
Chargers UNDER 48 (win)
Cowboys UNDER 49 (loss)

WizardofNothing (5-1)
Eagles -12.5 Confidence (win)
Eagles OVER 45 (loss)
Cowboys -2 (win)
Cowboys OVER 49 (win)
Chiefs -7 (win)

DLW6486 (3-2)
Bears +9 (win)
Colts +10.5 (win)
Bears OVER 47.5 (loss)
Colts OVER 42 (win)
49ers OVER 45 (loss)

RisingDough (4-2)
Saints -9 (loss)
Panthers +1.5 Confidence (win)
Eagles -12.5 (win)
Patriots -7 (win)
Redskins +2 (loss)

Romes (3-3)
Buccaneers -1.5 (loss)
49ers +12.5 (loss)
Bills -2.5 (win)
Seahawks -6 (loss)
Patriots -7 Confidence (win)

johnnyq (4-1)
Jets (+6) (win)
Panthers (+1.5) (win)
Colts (+10.5) (win)
Redskins (+2) (loss)
Steelers (-3) (win)

DrZin (3-2)
Browns (+9.5) (loss)
Bears (+9) (win)
Jets (+6) (win)
Colts (+10.5) (win)
Redskins (+2) (loss)

PlayYourCardsRight (4-1)
Bills -2.5 (win)
Chiefs -7 (win)
Vikings OVER (win)
Cowboys OVER (win)
Bengals -10.5 (loss)

KMUMF (3-2)
Buccaneers -1.5 (loss)
Bills -2.5 (win)
Seahawks -6 (loss)
Steelers -3 (win)
Cowboys -2 (win)

OdiousGambit (2-3)
Redskins +2 (loss)
Broncos UNDER 43 (loss)
Colts +10.5 (win)
Colts UNDER 42 (loss)
Bears +9 (win)

SOOPOO (0-6)
Raiders +2.5 (loss)
49ers +12.5 (loss)
Chargers +7 (loss)
Lions +3 (loss)
Broncos +7 (Confidence) (loss)

JohnZimbo (2-3)
Saints -9 (loss)
Bills -2.5 (win)
Panthers +1.5 (win)
Cowboys UNDER 49 (loss)
Falcons -6 (loss)

Wizard (2-4)
Raiders (+2.5) (loss)
Patriots (-7) (win)
Seahawks (-6) Confidence (loss)
Lions (+3) (loss)
Panthers (+1.5) (win)

Sparty10k (6-0)
Bears UNDER 47.5 (win)
Bears +9 (win)
Jets +6 (win)
Panthers +1.5 Confidence (win)
Cowboys -2 (win)

JW17 (2-4)
Browns (+9.5) (loss)
Bears (+9) (win)
49ers (+12.5) (loss)
Colts (+10.5) (win)
Broncos (+7) Confidence (loss)

BeachBumBabs (6-0)
Vikings -9.5 (win)
Vikings OVER 38 (win)
Patriots -7 (win)
Chiefs -7 Confidence (win)
Colts +10.5 (win)

JPlot (4-2)
Jets +6 (win)
Panthers +1.5 Confidence (win)
Colts OVER 42 (win)
Cowboys UNDER 49 (loss)
Lions +3 (loss)

Genwyzgy (4-1)
Jets +6 (win)
Steelers -3 (win)
Raiders OVER 45.5 (win)
Patriots-7 (win)
Chargers OVER 48 (loss)

Gordonm888 (3-3)
Lions (+3) Confidence (loss)
Panthers (+1.5) (win)
Colts (+10.5) (win)
Texans (+6) (win)
Chargers (+7) (loss)

terapined (2-3)
Bucs -1.5 (loss)
49ers +12.5 (loss)
Cowboys -2 (win)
Colts +10.5 (win)
Browns +9.5 (loss)

EdCollins (3-2)
Vikings -9.5 (win)
Eagles -12.5 (win)
Chargers +7 (loss)
Cowboys -2 (win)
Lions +3 (loss)

rainman (3-2)
Seahawks -6 (loss)
Cowboys -2 (win)
49ers +12.5 (loss)
Panthers +1.5 (win)
Bears +9 (win)

miplet (2-4)
Saints UNDER 47.5 (win)
Falcons -6 (loss)
Seahawks -6 Confidence (loss)
Redskins UNDER 49 (loss)
Lions UNDER 47 (win)

MidwestAP (2-3)
Falcons -6 (loss)
Bills OVER 45.5 (win)
Seahawks -6 (loss)
Cowboys UNDER 49 (loss)
Lions UNDER 47 (win)


Name Wins Losses %
JohnnyQ 27 12 69.23%
Mission146 21 13 61.76%
Wizard 28 18 60.87%
MidwestAP 26 17 60.47%
WizardofNothing 28 19 59.57%
terapined 22 16 57.89%
BeachBumBabs 25 19 56.82%
Sparty10k 26 20 56.52%
RisingDough 24 19 55.81%
rainman 20 16 55.56%
DLW6486 21 17 55.26%
EdCollins 22 18 55.00%
JohnZimbo 24 21 53.33%
KMUMF 17 16 51.52%
DrZin 20 19 51.28%
GenWyzgy 21 21 50.00%
Romes 20 20 50.00%
JPlot 22 24 47.83%
Gordonm888 20 22 47.62%
miplet 22 25 46.81%
JW17 21 24 46.67%
odiousgambit 14 19 42.42%
SOOPOO 18 27 40.00%
PlayYourCardsRight 14 23 37.84%
Totals 523 465 52.94%

Record of Skip Weeks:

Gordonm888: Week 4
KMUMF: Week 2
Mission146: Week 6
odiousgambit: Week 5
PlayYourCardsRight: Week 7
rainman: Week 7
Romes: Week 4
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October 30th, 2017 at 9:50:56 PM permalink
Yes!!!! The curse of the babbino is broken!

Congrats to Sparty10k. Happy to share my 6-0 minigloat with you.
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October 31st, 2017 at 5:56:24 AM permalink
I think I was in first place after week one or two. Now careening towards the bottom. I do a confidence pick each week. 0 for the season so far....
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October 31st, 2017 at 8:44:03 AM permalink
Latest standings please
Never mind, I see them
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October 31st, 2017 at 3:29:45 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I think I was in first place after week one or two. Now careening towards the bottom.



You are the KC Chiefs of the Picks Contest.
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PlayYourCardsRight
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October 31st, 2017 at 6:37:32 PM permalink
You stay away from my basement.
JohnnyQ
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November 1st, 2017 at 3:22:45 PM permalink
I'm the king of the world !!!

J/k, I have no idea what I Am doing and expect the law of averages is closing in on me.

I wonder how a couple of completely random entries would do in the standings, week after week of random picks, just draw the team names out of a hat. Right around 50 %, +/-, right ?
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JohnnyQ
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November 1st, 2017 at 4:40:27 PM permalink
This was the 60+ % club LAST WEEK:
JohnnyQ 23 11 67.65%
Wizard 26 14 65.00%
MidwestAP 24 14 63.16%
Mission146 18 11 62.07%
terapined 20 13 60.61%

THIS WEEK "and then there were 4"..... ( yes, 60 % is an entirely arbitrary cut-off ). Actually I think there is plenty of time for someone below 60 % to claw their way to 1st place by the end of the season.

Name Wins Losses %
JohnnyQ 27 12 69.23%
Mission146 21 13 61.76%
Wizard 28 18 60.87%
MidwestAP 26 17 60.47%

How long until:


Last edited by: JohnnyQ on Nov 1, 2017
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November 2nd, 2017 at 3:00:41 AM permalink
Quote: PlayYourCardsRight

You stay away from my basement.



better get ready, I am busting in!
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November 2nd, 2017 at 2:29:53 PM permalink
And stay away from the top of the pyramid too !
There's emptiness behind their eyes There's dust in all their hearts They just want to steal us all and take us all apart
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November 3rd, 2017 at 6:16:53 PM permalink
Lines please
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November 4th, 2017 at 12:06:46 AM permalink
Not sure what's going on with the lines.

Mission said at the beginning that he pulls his lines from VegasInsider. So I went there. There are many, many lines listed. Not sure whose he uses.

So, here are screenshot of the Opening lines (first column) from VI. I'm assuming that's as close as we'll get to Thurs lines. I'm not any kind of sub commissioner, so I don't know if these will do, but I think they're at least a good guideline with people trying to get their picks made before they go out of range or something.

Ed says his program only reads the team and the over/under anyway, so I doubt the numbers are that big a deal.

Hope this is helpful.


If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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November 4th, 2017 at 12:18:23 AM permalink
Translating the above:

DEN +7.5 PHI -7.5 44.5
Rams -3.5 Giants +3.5 43.5
Tampa +7 NO -7 50.0
Cin +3.5 Jax -3.5 39.5
ATL +1 Car -1 44.0
Ind +14 Hou -14 48.0
Balt +5 Ten -5 43.0
Ariz PK SF PK 39.5
Wash +8 Sea -8 45.0
KC PK Dal PK 48.5
Oak -2.5 Mia +2.5 43.5
Det PK GB PK 43.0
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November 4th, 2017 at 12:20:06 AM permalink
Does Mission use the opening lines? I didn't think he did. I assumed he used the very late, adjusted lines. (Shows you how much I know, if I don't know for sure what lines he uses.)

The only reason I thought he used the late, adjusted lines was because if he did use the opening lines, there would be no reason to wait until late in the week (Friday) to post them. He could post them right away, immediately.

Bu yes, thanks for posting any lines at all.

We need a game plan. If we don't hear from Mission soon, I suggest we use these lines and send in our picks to him as we normally do, using these lines.
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November 4th, 2017 at 12:34:08 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

Does Mission use the opening lines? I didn't think he did. I assumed he used the very late, adjusted lines. (Shows you how much I know, if I don't know for sure what lines he uses.)

The only reason I thought he used the late, adjusted lines was because if he did use the opening lines, there would be no reason to wait until late in the week (Friday) to post them. He could post them right away, immediately.

Bu yes, thanks for posting any lines at all.

We need a game plan. If we don't hear from Mission soon, I suggest we use these lines and send in our picks to him as we normally do, using these lines.



I agree. Let's use these lines for this week, let it be on my head if they're the wrong ones. Everyone is using the same lines, so it should be equal opportunity. (I do suggest everyone who cares, check the same page, VI consensus, and take advantage of any staleness).

Mission's standard has been (I thought) to post lines on Thursday, and we've missed those, so I figured the Open column was the most consistent. There is a VI consensus, current for whatever time you're looking at them. Perhaps that's what he usually uses.
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November 4th, 2017 at 1:08:16 AM permalink
It looks like this may be MidwestAP's and my best chance to win our 49ers/Browns side bet with you Babs.

The 49ers have a decent shot of winning this weekend. The Browns are off but they must travel to Detroit next weekend, and will likely be underdogs by possibly a touchdown or more in that game.
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November 4th, 2017 at 2:04:19 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

It looks like this may be MidwestAP's and my best chance to win our 49ers/Browns side bet with you Babs.

The 49ers have a decent shot of winning this weekend. The Browns are off but they must travel to Detroit next weekend, and will likely be underdogs by possibly a touchdown or more in that game.



Could be....
Dodgers were supposed to win Game 6, though, so there's always hope. :-)
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November 4th, 2017 at 2:38:15 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: EdCollins

Does Mission use the opening lines? I didn't think he did. I assumed he used the very late, adjusted lines. (Shows you how much I know, if I don't know for sure what lines he uses.)

The only reason I thought he used the late, adjusted lines was because if he did use the opening lines, there would be no reason to wait until late in the week (Friday) to post them. He could post them right away, immediately.

Bu yes, thanks for posting any lines at all.

We need a game plan. If we don't hear from Mission soon, I suggest we use these lines and send in our picks to him as we normally do, using these lines.



I agree. Let's use these lines for this week, let it be on my head if they're the wrong ones. Everyone is using the same lines, so it should be equal opportunity. (I do suggest everyone who cares, check the same page, VI consensus, and take advantage of any staleness).

Mission's standard has been (I thought) to post lines on Thursday, and we've missed those, so I figured the Open column was the most consistent. There is a VI consensus, current for whatever time you're looking at them. Perhaps that's what he usually uses.


If he ever forgets to do lines go to Vegas Insider, select and copy all the text. Then paste in here.
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November 4th, 2017 at 1:12:07 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: EdCollins

Does Mission use the opening lines? I didn't think he did. I assumed he used the very late, adjusted lines. (Shows you how much I know, if I don't know for sure what lines he uses.)

The only reason I thought he used the late, adjusted lines was because if he did use the opening lines, there would be no reason to wait until late in the week (Friday) to post them. He could post them right away, immediately.

Bu yes, thanks for posting any lines at all.

We need a game plan. If we don't hear from Mission soon, I suggest we use these lines and send in our picks to him as we normally do, using these lines.



I agree. Let's use these lines for this week, let it be on my head if they're the wrong ones. Everyone is using the same lines, so it should be equal opportunity. (I do suggest everyone who cares, check the same page, VI consensus, and take advantage of any staleness).

Mission's standard has been (I thought) to post lines on Thursday, and we've missed those, so I figured the Open column was the most consistent. There is a VI consensus, current for whatever time you're looking at them. Perhaps that's what he usually uses.



There are other bets between members on how well people will do. The lines you posted may be acceptable for the base game, but a line before Watson was injured compared to one after he was injured....

Hoping all is well with Mission.
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November 4th, 2017 at 1:15:35 PM permalink
Greetings!

The Week 9 Lines are as follows:

Broncos (+7) @ Eagles (-7) O/U 41.5
Rams (-4.5) @ Giants (+4.5) O/U 42
Buccaneers (+7) @ Saints (-7) O/U 52
Bengals (+6) @ Jaguars (-6) O/U 39
Falcons (-2.5) @ Panthers (+2.5) O/U 42.5
Colts (+7) @ Texans (-7) O/U 45.5
Ravens (+3.5) @ Titans (-3.5) O/U 43
Cardinals (-2.5) @ 49ers (+2.5) O/U 39.5
Redskins (+7) @ Seahawks (-7) O/U 45
Chiefs (+2.5) @ Cowboys (-2.5) O/U 53.5
Raiders (-3) @ Dolphins (+3) O/U 44
Lions (-2) @ Packers (+2) O/U 43.5
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