AxelWolf
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July 5th, 2017 at 11:15:54 PM permalink
Quote: RS

"I already tipped the cocktail waitress for you, why'd you give her a dollar? Are you insane, a $2 tip for a drink is ridiculous, period! Go find her and get your dollar back."

That quote kills 2 birds with 1 stone.

She was probably ugly or something, needed her to pass off her section ASAP and not keep coming back and hanging around. (-;

I thought she was getting $4 per trip for a soda and a drink. I have given much more, but in this case, It was not about the money, it was just the fact that she was getting double tipped once from you, and once from me. She should have said he already got me and gave you the opportunity to say, it's ok.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
rxwine
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July 5th, 2017 at 11:16:24 PM permalink
In fact, my premonition of tipping being "charity" is well-founded.

Quote:

The custom originated in Europe, and while its history is not entirely clear, it is commonly traced back to 17th century England. The word "tip" is speculated to be an acronym for "To Insure Promptitude," which was printed on bowls in British coffeehouses.

What is today considered a given started as a purely aristocratic practice a mere "allowance" that the upper class would offer to the socially inferior.


It made its way to America after the Civil War (which ended in 1865), when wealthy Americans started traveling to and from Europe. They brought the custom back home to show off their worldliness, but it was immediately met with disdain.

Americans considered it anti-democratic, as it encouraged classism and further distinguished the wealthy from the masses.
These initial grumblings escalated into movements. In 1904, the Anti-Tipping Society of America was created in Georgia, and its 100,000 members pledged to not tip anyone for a year,



http://www.businessinsider.com/history-of-tipping-2015-10
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Rigondeaux
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July 5th, 2017 at 11:37:27 PM permalink
No it's not. Words mean things.

Paying someone in exchange for work in 2017 has nothing to do with Lord Fisslewick Boulderbottom throwing a half pence into the mud so that his houseboy might procure a goose leg for christmas day in 1817.

Charity: the voluntary giving of help, typically in the form of money, to those in need.
synonyms: financial assistance, aid, welfare, relief, financial relief; More

Tip: 1. a sum of money given to someone as a reward for their services.

Like I said originally, create whatever crazy narratives you want. Reinvent the English language. What you're doing is taking something without paying for it.
rxwine
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July 5th, 2017 at 11:46:10 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Like I said originally, create whatever crazy narratives you want. Reinvent the English language. What you're doing is taking something without paying for it.



No, I'm definitely not stealing. Stealing is a crime.

It is punishable.
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Rigondeaux
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July 6th, 2017 at 12:03:28 AM permalink
"Stealing" isn't a crime. I think crimes are things like "larceny" and "robbery." Stealing is more ambiguous.

Anyway, I didn't say you were stealing. I said you were taking something without paying for it. This is objectively true. Somebody is doing work for you, and in exchange you give them nothing. You are getting their work. You are not paying for it.
rxwine
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July 6th, 2017 at 12:27:28 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

You are getting their work. You are not paying for it.



I'm not making them work for me. They can quit any time they feel like walking out the door. It's certainly within their rights.

They can even go to court and try to get that tip you say I owe. Maybe Judge Judy will give it to them.
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AxelWolf
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July 6th, 2017 at 12:51:10 AM permalink
I don't understand why most people don't tip at the grocery store deli. They slice your cheese and meat to your preferred thickness, they weigh out your potato salad and coleslaw or whatever, they cook and serve hot food. They let you pick out what item looks best(no not that one, I want the big one) They are aways more than happy to give you samples of everything, they will give you and an entire slice of the most expensive cheese and meats.

Do you tip the kid bagging your groceries and putting it in your cart at Albertsons? They will even help you out to your car, I see it all the time but, I don't think they get tipped much.

People want to tip food servers 20% for food, but no one wants to tip the pharmacy technicians who help prepare and give you your life-saving drugs and probably make less than most servers in LV.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Rigondeaux
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July 6th, 2017 at 12:54:10 AM permalink
You seem to have this hang up where everything has to involve force, or being illegal.


No, you are not forcing them to work for you with a gun. You are however taking their work knowing that they work for tips. You are getting it for free, or close to free. You are not paying for it. You are taking something without paying for it.

This has nothing to do with force.

Hey, I didn't force that guy to make a bet with me at gun point, therefore somehow I'm not obligated to pay him. He should know that some people welsh on bets. I just personally believe that paying off on bets is bad for some reason. See, it's a charity, because it's not illegal to renege on an informal bet, therefore, blahblahblah.

Why delve into all of that mental pretzel making?

Just own it.
mamat
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July 6th, 2017 at 1:00:01 AM permalink
P.S. Don't tip in Irish casinos. They don't like it. The wage is better, and a tip means the house is losing.

Cultural differences.
rxwine
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July 6th, 2017 at 1:09:43 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux


Why delve into all of that mental pretzel making?

Just own it.



You've got a hang up with dictating your perspective on others about this.

You have to own that you haven't been given any such authority.

When you become dictator you can do that. Let me know when that happens.
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