Quote: rektfastIn slots they say the best strategy is to play the highest denomination possible. Probably the same is true for VP. Also, only playing a low number of hands makes fat-fingers and wrong inputs much less of a problem. What's the highest credit version of video poker? $50 a hand or something? I believe the optimal strategy would require as high of a wager as possible
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Wow. Not even worth the effort.
Quote: ChumpChangeThe pay table determines whether you get a favorable HA%. You might find worse pay tables at lower denominations, but you walk into a convenience store and get 6/5 $1 JoB, you should skip that game no matter the denomination.
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That's not always true. It depends on what class machine you are playing. VP machines in NY show regular 9/6 payouts but payout under 90%. It's because they are video lottery terminals, not games of skill.
I might expect the pay table to be 7/5 or 8/5 JoB, might see 8/6 on $1 denoms.
Meanwhile, another Royal Miss!

On my last 50 credits I missed hitting a Straight Flush 3 times!



So instead of getting way back up to 750 or 1,000 credits, I lost them all and went down swinging. I'll have to refresh the page to start a new game, or take a damn break.
Maybe the optimal decision is to play one hand and then use your winnings to buy stock in the casino
Quote: rektfastIf it is based on an atomic clock or whatever you could probably rig the RNG by pulling the lever at equal milliseconds apart, right? People say slot machines tend to give out hand pays the same day and time over and over which implies it is not randomized properly
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If slot machines gave out hand pays the same day and time over and over again that would be wonderful!
They would be very easy to beat.
Former member here Rob Singer has a progressive wagering strategy where he is employs what he calls 'special plays' or less optimal plays trying to hit quads at the expense of Royals. It is a bad and losing strategy.
And our own Alan Mendelson is a big proponent of "quitting while ahead". He has started many discussions on this topic on numerous forums in the last 10 years. This too is not a real or winning strategy.
So what could go wrong with putting these two voodoo, losing strategies together? Two negatives equals a plus right? :)
Rob Singer sounds like he had the same idea. Is there some way to make a side-bet to improve your VP odds? There must be some advantage opportunities people haven't thought of.
I'm also skeptical of Player's Rewards cards to the point that I think facial recognition could be used by the casino to keep track of whether you're an AP or a fish and adjust the machines accordingly.
As an aside, I know serious gamblers and pro poker players personally who believe astrology influences their performance at tournaments. After the pandemic practice shutdowns, machines were infamously looser because casinos had to make their payout percentages in time for the end of the quarter.
If you already have a 99.4% RTP machine and start adding on weird superstitious stuff like that, you could theoretically make VP beatable.
I’ve always wondered why those people sell that system instead of going out and playing those machines themselves at the right time each day to become millionaires.
Also once the word gets out to too many people wouldn’t casinos have trouble staying in business if people just play the machines only at the time they pay a jackpot?
Either that or it’s possible that there is a lot of misinformation out there and slot machines aren’t actually exploitable to play at the same time everyday.
You would think that if it was true people would just do it & keep it quiet instead of selling the information or discussing it all the time,