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letswin
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July 7th, 2016 at 12:20:48 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

Being so secretive... with information that has nothing to do with your "system."

You: "I'm not a system seller! No paying me anything up front!"
Us: "So we'll need to eventually pay you something to use your system?"
You: "You didn't PM me!!!"

So you're not selling a system, just a system that we'll "eventually" have to pay you for?



This is the reason i tried to make my opening post as clear as possible.

Ill try again

Im
Not a system
Seller. I have a team who has been winning, and in looking to expand. You do not pay for anything upfront. Obviously you will share a percentage of your earnings...that goes without to anyone with common sense. Pm me if you want in

Those are the simplest instructions ever. I understand text can leave the reader hazy at times,..but this is ridiculously direct.
Ibeatyouraces
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July 7th, 2016 at 12:23:17 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

This is the reason i tried to make my opening post as clear as possible.

Ill try again

Im
Not a system
Seller. I have a team who has been winning, and in looking to expand. You do not pay for anything upfront. Obviously you will share a percentage of your earnings...that goes without to anyone with common sense. Pm me if you want in

Those are the simplest instructions ever. I understand text can leave the reader hazy at times,..but this is ridiculously direct.


I'm not paying at all with my money. If using your money and getting paid, i.e. no risk to me, that's different.
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
letswin
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July 7th, 2016 at 12:25:21 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I'll gladly play on his money and get paid a percentage of the win. No way in hell I'm investing any of my money in it.



In the pm i tell you what it is. You decide if its for you at that point. Thats why i said to pm me. Any discussion here makes zero progress. Pm
If you want in. Very clear
lilredrooster
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July 7th, 2016 at 1:54:38 PM permalink
letswin you are truly a lucky, lucky fellow. Nobody else in the world except you can gain an advantage on any game with a built in house edge such as baccarat; a game that is not vulnerable to card counting. Also, casinos don't worry about or hassle or bar baccarat players because they don't believe it's possible for them to have an advantage. So you are basically free to go around the world playing baccarat and betting $50,000 per hand if you like. Spectacular wealth is sure to be yours in a short amount of time. Enjoy.
𝘱𝘢𝘵𝘳𝘪𝘰𝘵: 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘱𝘦𝘳𝘴𝘰𝘯 𝘸𝘩𝘰 𝘤𝘢𝘯 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘳 𝘭𝘰𝘶𝘥𝘦𝘴𝘵 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘩𝘦 𝘪𝘴 𝘩𝘰𝘭𝘭𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵............. ᴍᴀʀᴋ ᴛᴡᴀɪɴ
MrGoldenSun
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July 7th, 2016 at 5:05:03 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

Please read the main post thoroughly and follow the instructions



But I don't want to join your team. I just wanted to understand what you're asking people to do, and the way you phrased it, this sounds like you were staying ambiguous and possibly going to ask for money later.

I think people should know whether you're going to ask them to pay you money at some time. It sounds like you're saying you'll bankroll the whole thing and if they win, they give you part of it. But nothing else. Is that accurate?
AxelWolf
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July 7th, 2016 at 5:15:51 PM permalink
Quote: MrGoldenSun

But I don't want to join your team. I just wanted to understand what you're asking people to do, and the way you phrased it, this sounds like you were staying ambiguous and possibly going to ask for money later.

I think people should know whether you're going to ask them to pay you money at some time. It sounds like you're saying you'll bankroll the whole thing and if they win, they give you part of it. But nothing else. Is that accurate?

I was not saying or implying anything, I just want to know how this works. I was not asking anyone to join my team nor have anyone on my team do this. I want to know for myself. I want to know how it works and what I would have to do?

If you have a winning system I'm absolutely interested. I keep my mouth shut on good plays and opportunities.

If you follow any of my posts I'm the biggest advocate of not posting up good information publicly. I was even suspended for helping in the flagging of a post someone had put up with good information on the forum.

For now I'm not even asking what your system is. I'm interested in the business/MONEY part of it, how would that work?

I also assume you would be telling me what to bet, either while sitting next to me or via some other forum of communication.

Sorry GS I didn't mean to quote you, I mean, I did, but somehow I got you mixed up with him and thought I was responding to him not you. Please dont be insulted I got you mixed up with him, I have to scroll left and right to see the names.
Last edited by: AxelWolf on Jul 7, 2016
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
gamerfreak
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July 7th, 2016 at 5:29:40 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

Nobody else in the world except you can gain an advantage on any game with a built in house edge such as baccarat; a game that is not vulnerable to card counting.


Dragon 7 and Panda 8 are countable. I don't think its very profitable, though.
vegas
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July 7th, 2016 at 5:35:41 PM permalink
He teaches you the system Then you bet with your own money and pay him a percentage of your winnings. He does not ask for any money except for some of your winnings in exchange for him teaching you how to beat the game. He can not lose.
50-50-90 Rule: Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there is a 90% probability you'll get it wrong
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July 7th, 2016 at 5:53:43 PM permalink
Quote: vegas

He teaches you the system Then you bet with your own money and pay him a percentage of your winnings. He does not ask for any money except for some of your winnings in exchange for him teaching you how to beat the game. He can not lose.



That's what I thought he was hinting at. I'm assuming you PM'd him and that was the answer.

Being on a team, to me, means you play as directed with a team bankroll, earning a salary or percentage. This is not that.

I see almost no difference between this and a system seller; you are still obligating yourself to owing letswin money win or lose, just not up front.

So my preliminary take is this is system selling, and as such not supported or tolerated here. At this point, letswin needs to either justify how it's not, or we'll have to take it from there.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
AxelWolf
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July 7th, 2016 at 6:05:44 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

That's what I thought he was hinting at. I'm assuming you PM'd him and that was the answer.

Being on a team, to me, means you play as directed with a team bankroll, earning a salary or percentage. This is not that.

I see almost no difference between this and a system seller; you are still obligating yourself to owing letswin money win or lose, just not up front.

So my preliminary take is this is system selling, and as such not supported or tolerated here. At this point, letswin needs to either justify how it's not, or we'll have to take it from there.

I had always thought this was the case from day one, and i assumed it was some long con. I was trying to go along with it. I would have exposed his PM's once i seen proof, and you could've suspended me. I just can't keep up the ruse with him anymore. I'm sorry for not waiting for this guy to out himself. If people are dumb enough to fall for this crap then perhaps they need to learn the hard way.

I dont think PM protection should cover SCAMS

THIS IS A SCAM, IT SHOULD BE EXPOSED AND THIS GUY SHOULD BE SENT PACKING.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪

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