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AxelWolf
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July 7th, 2016 at 6:10:33 PM permalink
Quote: vegas

He teaches you the system Then you bet with your own money and pay him a percentage of your winnings. He does not ask for any money except for some of your winnings in exchange for him teaching you how to beat the game. He can not lose.

Yes again, that is what I figured when he posted a bunch of crap before. But are you just guessing the obvious, or do you have some other reason for knowing this to be true?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
letswin
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July 7th, 2016 at 7:30:58 PM permalink
Quote: MrGoldenSun

But I don't want to join your team. I just wanted to understand what you're asking people to do, and the way you phrased it, this sounds like you were staying ambiguous and possibly going to ask for money later.

I think people should know whether you're going to ask them to pay you money at some time. It sounds like you're saying you'll bankroll the whole thing and if they win, they give you part of it. But nothing else. Is that accurate?



Well i thought "im not a system seller" was pretty self explainatory
letswin
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July 7th, 2016 at 7:32:18 PM permalink
Quote: vegas

He teaches you the system Then you bet with your own money and pay him a percentage of your winnings. He does not ask for any money except for some of your winnings in exchange for him teaching you how to beat the game. He can not lose.



No. This is incorrect. And this person never pmed me. I teach nothing.
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July 7th, 2016 at 7:35:58 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

Well i thought "im not a system seller" was pretty self explainatory



No, I don't think it is. Perhaps you should explain your terms for all of us. Does Vegas (above) detail your situation correctly or not?

Edit: cross-posted. Understand Vegas is not correct. So what is?
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
letswin
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July 7th, 2016 at 7:40:20 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I had always thought this was the case from day one, and i assumed it was some long con. I was trying to go along with it. I would have exposed his PM's once i seen proof, and you could've suspended me. I just can't keep up the ruse with him anymore. I'm sorry for not waiting for this guy to out himself. If people are dumb enough to fall for this crap then perhaps they need to learn the hard way.

I dont think PM protection should cover SCAMS

THIS IS A SCAM, IT SHOULD BE EXPOSED AND THIS GUY SHOULD BE SENT PACKING.



Show me My scam and ill leave the forum
Forever and meet you with $5000 cash. Want a picture of me holding $5000 cash? Ill post it here.

Show me 100% proof of my "scam". "Scam" by definition would mean getting someone to send me money upfront so i can run with, whilst returning nothing inreturn correct?

So. Show me 1, the solicitation for money. 2, the "product i clearly stated for sale". No ambiguous bs. 3, show me the payment method i gave people to "pay" me for my product.


Show me that? And ill admit to it publicly. Meet you in person (ill fly to you). Give you $5000 cash. And never post on the forum
Again

Lets go.
letswin
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July 7th, 2016 at 7:42:44 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

No, I don't think it is. Perhaps you should explain your terms for all of us. Does Vegas (above) detail your situation correctly or not?

Edit: cross-posted. Understand Vegas is not correct. So what is?



I dont have to display the inner workingsof my team publicly. I said enough times via the Forum. Ill repeat again. I am NOT selling my system. I am NOT teaching my system. Anyone interested in joining can pm
Me for more private details on its inner workings. Those who think im
Scamming? Prove it. Or keep your feelings to yourself.
letswin
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July 7th, 2016 at 7:45:19 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

No, I don't think it is. Perhaps you should explain your terms for all of us. Does Vegas (above) detail your situation correctly or not?

Edit: cross-posted. Understand Vegas is not correct. So what is?



Are you seriously telling me that im in a forum where "im not a system
Seller". "I do not sell
Systems". "I will not teach or sell my system under any circumstances" requires further explaination???
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July 7th, 2016 at 8:06:17 PM permalink
Quote: letswin

After profits are earned, anyone should expect to have to share a portion of it else where, if the method used to generate those profits was shared with them from else where. No partnership or team can function other wise.



So. You're not teaching anything, but people should expect to learn from you.

You're not selling anything, but people should expect to pay you.

You're "recruiting team members", but being vague and evasive about whose money will be used to "earn profits". One question is whether your new team members will be providing their own bankroll and expected to send you money, or using your money and bringing you back some amount of any winnings.

Or perhaps you're really looking for backers, and you want your "team members" to blindly hand over money for you to play?

It makes a difference.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
AxelWolf
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July 7th, 2016 at 8:08:15 PM permalink
If you can't show a mathematical edge, glitch or something that proves you have an advantage and anyone ever has to put up a penny of their own money IT'S A SCAM, intentional or not.

FYI unless you can show a picture of 100k min, your system is worthless. Going by your posts ("I BEEN WINNING EVERYDAY FOR YEARS") you should be filthy rich.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
letswin
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July 7th, 2016 at 8:12:45 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

So. You're not teaching anything, but people should expect to learn from you.

You're not selling anything, but people should expect to pay you.

You're "recruiting team members", but being vague and evasive about whose money will be used to "earn profits". One question is whether your new team members will be providing their own bankroll and expected to send you money, or using your money and bringing you back some amount of any winnings.

It makes a difference.



I know youre a mod. So im trying to be as respectful
As possible so we can find some area of common understanding. ....i may be wrong...but correct me if i am..are you
Seriouslt putting system
Selling and "sharing profits earned" in the same category? System
Sellers are scammers. So a guy who has capital, who refuses to
Send money upfront to
Keep it safe,meets a trading genius with no capital, who also wants to keep his technique safe...they partner up to make millions together...thats the same as the trading guy forcing the capital guy to
Send him money before they earn
Anything or offering him to teach him how to
Win on his own...which after wards could leave the capital
Guy at risk. Losing the money he sent the trading genius guy? Please tell
Me you dont agree they are one and the same. :/

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