Cooperation game
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50 members have voted
September 4th, 2016 at 1:11:08 PM
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Not exactly.Quote: WizardRound 5 Results
Very good group. Given 36 votes, you maximized the most you could get out of me in one round. Had one $1 picker switched to $4 you would have all got zero...
Any one of the non-bidders could have picked $4. In fact, two of them could have picked $4 if one of the others also picked $1.
At any rate, my bid is in.
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September 4th, 2016 at 1:17:32 PM
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Quote: Dalex64Wow, close one.
Low for me next round
Running total:
2 high
3 low
1 undisclosed
As always, I am in for $1. Will add that and the DJ non-disclosure to the list:
2 High
4 Low
2 Undisclosed
September 4th, 2016 at 1:30:58 PM
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Quote: DJTeddyBearI started out going for the best EV for the group. I bid $1 multiple times. Not any more. From here on, I will be bidding the max offered.
So we can consider DJ's bid disclosed as $2
therefore
3 High
4 Low
1 Undisclosed
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 4th, 2016 at 1:37:05 PM
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As I stated pre last round, this round I would be selecting the lowest option. Thus.... $1 for me this round. PM sent.
September 4th, 2016 at 2:06:54 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOAs I stated pre last round, this round I would be selecting the lowest option. Thus.... $1 for me this round. PM sent.
Thus
therefore
3 High
5 Low
1 Undisclosed
C'mon guys. Team players or not, this is the way to do it. Keep the Tally appended and updated.
Let's prove this works for if/whe Mike ups the ante again.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 4th, 2016 at 2:14:13 PM
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I picked 2 the first round and 1 every other round.
I will pick 1 again this round
I will pick 1 again this round
Happy days are here again
September 4th, 2016 at 2:19:20 PM
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$1 as always
.
September 4th, 2016 at 2:30:49 PM
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Don't make me do all the work.
therefore
3 High
7 Low
1 Undisclosed
C'mon guys. Team players or not, this is the way to do it. Keep the Tally appended and updated
Let's prove this works for if/when Mike ups the ante again.
therefore
3 High
7 Low
1 Undisclosed
C'mon guys. Team players or not, this is the way to do it. Keep the Tally appended and updated
Let's prove this works for if/when Mike ups the ante again.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 4th, 2016 at 3:25:44 PM
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Quote: OnceDearDon't make me do all the work.
therefore
3 High
7 Low
1 Undisclosed
C'mon guys. Team players or not, this is the way to do it. Keep the Tally appended and updated
Let's prove this works for if/when Mike ups the ante again.
I will once again bid $1. PM sent to the Wizard.
UPDATED:
3 High
8 Low
1 Undisclosed
You serious, Clark?
September 4th, 2016 at 4:26:06 PM
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High for me
September 4th, 2016 at 4:35:05 PM
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Quote: gamerfreakHigh for me
UPDATED:
4 High
8 Low
1 Undisclosed
September 4th, 2016 at 5:23:32 PM
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Quote: RonCUPDATED:
4 High
8 Low
1 Undisclosed
Submitted my round #6 pick by P.M., using the same personal strategy I have for the whole game. Just to add to the suspense, I suppose, I am not yet divulging the details, though I haven't hurt anyone so far.
My update:
4 High
8 Low
2 Undisclosed
September 4th, 2016 at 5:45:44 PM
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4 high
8 low
3 undisclosed
8 low
3 undisclosed
I am a robot.
September 4th, 2016 at 6:17:31 PM
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I'll bid $2 this time and of course my $2 will be added to the pot and I'll split it equally with the good guys assuming we win.
Did everyone playing pick last time?
Did everyone playing pick last time?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 4th, 2016 at 6:30:43 PM
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Quote: AxelWolfI'll bid $2 this time and of course my $2 will be added to the pot and I'll split it equally with the good guys assuming we win.
Did everyone playing pick last time?
5 high
8 low
3 undisclosed
September 4th, 2016 at 6:39:11 PM
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soQuote: RonC5 high
8 low
3 undisclosed
8 low
And
8 high
I didn't look at the list to see who said what so it could actually be
7 low and 9 high with some sneaky snake.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 4th, 2016 at 6:47:54 PM
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$1 last round as stated.Quote: RonC5 high
8 low
3 undisclosed
$2 this round as promised.
Tally: just adjusting from RonC
6 High
8 Low
3 Undisclosed
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
September 4th, 2016 at 7:11:56 PM
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Then perhaps you shouldn't "promise" before the next round. Wouldn't it be better to just wait until it actually happens? What if you were the last person to pick and if you kept your promise we would get zero for sure? Would you still keep your promise?Quote: TwoFeathersATL$1 last round as stated.
$2 this round as promised.
Tally: just adjusting from RonC
6 High
8 Low
3 Undisclosed
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 5th, 2016 at 3:30:06 AM
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Been waiting for a team strategy to gel. Until then been just announcing intentions. The running tally is as good as I've seen so far.Quote: AxelWolfThen perhaps you shouldn't "promise" before the next round. Wouldn't it be better to just wait until it actually happens? What if you were the last person to pick and if you kept your promise we would get zero for sure? Would you still keep your promise?
I hope my pick suits your fancy.
GL
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
September 5th, 2016 at 4:17:43 AM
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Quote: TwoFeathersATL$1 last round as stated.
$2 this round as promised.
Tally: just adjusting from RonC
6 High
8 Low
3 Undisclosed
Looks like there is room for my high bid.
7 High
8 Low
3 Undisclosed
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
September 5th, 2016 at 6:14:39 AM
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your're asumming undisclosed people picked low?Quote: AyecarumbaLooks like there is room for my high bid.
7 High
8 Low
3 Undisclosed
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 5th, 2016 at 7:37:05 AM
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I'm sticking with my $1
September 5th, 2016 at 8:33:33 AM
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I have declared that I have always picked Hi randomly with P=1/3 - I feel this is fairer than being one of the early ones just grabbing a Hi slot. btw I think it's better to assume the other unknown bids have a reasonable probability of picking Hi.Quote: AxelWolfYou're assuming undisclosed people picked low?
If I am the only one that's left undisclosed with (say) 30 having bid I'm willing to say which suit my five (the card I drew) was. I think the running tally concept is an excellent way to play the game. Naturally this still depends on trusting everyone else to have told the truth, or perhaps (i) the last few bidders have to go low and leave a few high slots spare just in case (ii) the last few bidders allow for (say) one liar but not two - hoping the liars will feel guilty next round!
September 5th, 2016 at 9:05:53 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfyour're asumming undisclosed people picked low?
No. I assume there are the same 17 high slots as last time, and that if eveyone bids the same as last round, we will collect an optimal win.
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
September 5th, 2016 at 9:20:15 AM
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Quote: AyecarumbaNo. I assume there are the same 17 high slots as last time, and that if eveyone bids the same as last round, we will collect an optimal win.
I bid high last round but low this round
September 5th, 2016 at 10:10:37 AM
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Quote: AyercarumbaLooks like there is room for my high bid.
Quote: AxelWolfyour're asumming undisclosed people picked low?
Quote: AyercarumbaNo. I assume there are the same 17 high slots as last time, and that if eveyone bids the same as last round, we will collect an optimal win.
Prepare for "optimal win" to end up being a win of zero...in a round of $2 vs $1 no less...People are funny...
September 5th, 2016 at 1:50:20 PM
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I'm wondering if after this is done, people who voted low will get high and vice versa. It would cost more money but I still wonder.
I am a robot.
September 5th, 2016 at 1:57:58 PM
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I've done $1 every time so far but screw it I'm going $2 this time.
Vote for Nobody 2020!
September 5th, 2016 at 2:39:45 PM
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As a round 3 entrant ,and just glad to be in the game, I will stay with my $1 bid. I see no need to be greedy when $2 is barely more than $1.
Always borrow money from a pessimist; They don't expect to get paid back !
Be yourself and speak your thoughts. Those who matter won't mind, and those that mind, don't matter!
September 5th, 2016 at 2:47:00 PM
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Guys,
I've pulled up the following data, make of it what you will.
I Urge ALL to check their part of it.
I Urge MrSuit31 and any aspiring team players to check more thoroughly.
PLEASE GUYS. At least make your effort to get your bids in on time 9AM Wednesdfay Vegas time
Some in that list might already have been eliminated.
By my reckoning we have up to 36 players of which
9 have claimed to have bid high
9 have claimed to have bid low
3 have chosen to not disclose their bid
15 have not YET disclosed their bid
The last few bidders will have great power and great responsibility. Lets be a bit greedy but not TOO greedy.
Let's test this simple strategy regardless of our own way of playing.
E & OE
Please PLEASE Maintain the tally and keep it updated.
Do remember to bid on time.
I've pulled up the following data, make of it what you will.
I Urge ALL to check their part of it.
I Urge MrSuit31 and any aspiring team players to check more thoroughly.
PLEASE GUYS. At least make your effort to get your bids in on time 9AM Wednesdfay Vegas time
| Name | Bid #6 |
|---|---|
| AxelWolf | High |
| Ayecarumba | High |
| Bigfoot66 | High |
| DJTeddyBear | High |
| GamerFreak | High |
| Paradigm | High |
| PlayYourCardsRight | High |
| RonC | High |
| TwoFeathersATL | High |
| BeachBumBabs | Low |
| Blount2000 | Low |
| Dalex64 | Low |
| Hunterhill | Low |
| IndyJeffrey | Low |
| MrSuit31 | Low |
| OnceDear | Low |
| RaleighCraps | Low |
| SooPoo | Low |
| Boz | Not Yet Declared |
| Canyonero | Not Yet Declared |
| DoughTaker | Not Yet Declared |
| Gordon888 | Not Yet Declared |
| GWAE | Not Yet Declared |
| HeyMrDJ | Not Yet Declared |
| Jml24 | Not Yet Declared |
| Joeman | Not Yet Declared |
| Joeshlabotnik | Not Yet Declared |
| JyBrd0403 | Not Yet Declared |
| Miplet | Not Yet Declared |
| Mission146 | Not Yet Declared |
| MrGoldenSun | Not Yet Declared |
| Paigowdan | Not Yet Declared |
| PeeMcGee | Not Yet Declared |
| Romes | Not Yet Declared |
| RS | Not Yet Declared |
| RudeBoyoi | Not Yet Declared |
| TheorieMeister | Not Yet Declared |
| TomG | Not Yet Declared |
| Torghatten | Not Yet Declared |
| Wizardofnothing | Not Yet Declared |
| CharliePatrick | Undisclosed |
| Doc | Undisclosed |
| Onenickelmiracle | Undisclosed |
| BeerSeason | Eliminated Round #1 |
| MathExtremist | Eliminated Round #1 |
Some in that list might already have been eliminated.
By my reckoning we have up to 36 players of which
9 have claimed to have bid high
9 have claimed to have bid low
3 have chosen to not disclose their bid
15 have not YET disclosed their bid
The last few bidders will have great power and great responsibility. Lets be a bit greedy but not TOO greedy.
Let's test this simple strategy regardless of our own way of playing.
E & OE
Please PLEASE Maintain the tally and keep it updated.
Do remember to bid on time.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 5th, 2016 at 2:57:22 PM
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Quote: OnceDear
Some in that list might already have been eliminated.
By my reckoning we have up to 36 players of which
Wizard,
Would you be so kind as to confirm who is currently eligible to play? Please?
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 5th, 2016 at 4:41:55 PM
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$2 for me
Expect the worst and you will never be disappointed.
I AM NOT PART OF GWAE RADIO SHOW
September 5th, 2016 at 7:21:42 PM
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So I bid low as always...need to double check your grid info
September 5th, 2016 at 7:26:25 PM
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I hereby declare that I'm not ever going to disclose my bid, as doing so obviates the central premise of the game--to measure the extent to which people will cooperate when it's unknown if or how likely they are to be penalized for failure to cooperate. Keeping track of the accumulated bids simply makes it the optimal strategy to wait until the last moment to submit one's bid, since at that point one should KNOW whether it's safe to defect or not (or at least, have a much better idea than earlier bidders).
You guys with all this "team" nonsense, as convoluted as it's gotten, seem to all have missed this simple concept. In any game theory exercise where people have incomplete information about the future actions/tendencies of others, those whose decide last have a tremendous advantage over those who go first, IF THE CHOICES PEOPLE MAKE ARE VISIBLE TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEM. Imagine, for example, a Prisoner's Dilemma where Prisoner B had a hidden mike hooked up to Prisoner A's interrogation room (no dilemma at all!). You basically ruin the game by penalizing those who bid early and are honest about it.
Of course, this could degenerate into a lying contest, but it's supposed to be a cooperation game.
You guys with all this "team" nonsense, as convoluted as it's gotten, seem to all have missed this simple concept. In any game theory exercise where people have incomplete information about the future actions/tendencies of others, those whose decide last have a tremendous advantage over those who go first, IF THE CHOICES PEOPLE MAKE ARE VISIBLE TO THOSE WHO CHOOSE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEM. Imagine, for example, a Prisoner's Dilemma where Prisoner B had a hidden mike hooked up to Prisoner A's interrogation room (no dilemma at all!). You basically ruin the game by penalizing those who bid early and are honest about it.
Of course, this could degenerate into a lying contest, but it's supposed to be a cooperation game.
September 5th, 2016 at 9:52:54 PM
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Great effort Dear!Quote: OnceDearGuys,
I've pulled up the following data, make of it what you will.
I Urge ALL to check their part of it.
I Urge MrSuit31 and any aspiring team players to check more thoroughly.
PLEASE GUYS. At least make your effort to get your bids in on time 9AM Wednesdfay Vegas time
Name Bid #6 AxelWolf High Ayecarumba High Bigfoot66 High DJTeddyBear High GamerFreak High Paradigm High PlayYourCardsRight High RonC High TwoFeathersATL High BeachBumBabs Low Blount2000 Low Dalex64 Low Hunterhill Low IndyJeffrey Low MrSuit31 Low OnceDear Low RaleighCraps Low SooPoo Low Boz Not Yet Declared Canyonero Not Yet Declared DoughTaker Not Yet Declared Gordon888 Not Yet Declared GWAE Not Yet Declared HeyMrDJ Not Yet Declared Jml24 Not Yet Declared Joeman Not Yet Declared Joeshlabotnik Not Yet Declared JyBrd0403 Not Yet Declared Miplet Not Yet Declared Mission146 Not Yet Declared MrGoldenSun Not Yet Declared Paigowdan Not Yet Declared PeeMcGee Not Yet Declared Romes Not Yet Declared RS Not Yet Declared RudeBoyoi Not Yet Declared TheorieMeister Not Yet Declared TomG Not Yet Declared Torghatten Not Yet Declared Wizardofnothing Not Yet Declared CharliePatrick Undisclosed Doc Undisclosed Onenickelmiracle Undisclosed BeerSeason Eliminated Round #1 MathExtremist Eliminated Round #1
Some in that list might already have been eliminated.
By my reckoning we have up to 36 players of which
9 have claimed to have bid high
9 have claimed to have bid low
3 have chosen to not disclose their bid
15 have not YET disclosed their bid
The last few bidders will have great power and great responsibility. Lets be a bit greedy but not TOO greedy.
Let's test this simple strategy regardless of our own way of playing.
E & OE
Please PLEASE Maintain the tally and keep it updated.
Do remember to bid on time.
Only Paradigm has questioned the accuracy of your wonderful list thus far.
I note you didn't attempt a new 'tally' per se.
Also noted some missed your request to restate the running tally as they stated their bid:-(
There is always hope, however slim...
E & OE ?
Thx for your efforts to keep the colonials in line ;-)
Just 2F
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
September 5th, 2016 at 9:56:53 PM
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Quote: OnceDearWizard,
Would you be so kind as to confirm who is currently eligible to play? Please?
Here you go.
- AxelWolf
- Ayecarumba
- beachbumbabs
- bigfoot66
- blount2000
- Boz
- Canyonero
- CharliePatrick
- Dalex64
- DJTeddyBear
- Doc
- doughtaker
- gamerfreak
- GWAE
- HeyMrDJ
- Hunterhill
- IndyJeffrey
- joeman
- Joeshlabotnik
- miplet
- MrGoldenSun
- mrsuit31
- odiousgambit
- OnceDear
- onenickelmiracle
- Paradigm
- PlayYourCardsRight
- RaleighCraps
- Romes
- RonC
- RS
- rudeboyoi
- SOOPOO
- TomG
- Torghatten
- TwoFeathersATL
- Wizardofnothing
- wudged
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 5th, 2016 at 10:22:15 PM
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Ya know, this could have been easy. Do it the same as the perfect round 5, whatever you picked. Agree winnings will be evenly split. All done.
But, no. This guy's a holdout. That guy's a randomizer. The other guy's lying.
Herding cats on linoleum with no litter box in sight would be easier.
Good thing I don't need the money.
But, no. This guy's a holdout. That guy's a randomizer. The other guy's lying.
Herding cats on linoleum with no litter box in sight would be easier.
Good thing I don't need the money.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
September 5th, 2016 at 10:52:34 PM
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Great table Oncedear! Please put me down for $2. Thanks!
September 6th, 2016 at 12:45:16 AM
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Fixed for Canyonero, GWAE, Paradign and Joeshlabotnik
I Urge ALL to check their part of it.
I Urge MrSuit31 and any aspiring team players to check more thoroughly.
PLEASE GUYS. At least make your effort to get your bids in on time 9AM Wednesdfay Vegas time
Some in that list might already have been eliminated.
By my reckoning we have 39 players of which
10 have claimed to have bid high
10 have claimed to have bid low
4 have chosen to not disclose their bid
Some have not YET disclosed their bid
The last few bidders will have great power and great responsibility. Lets be a bit greedy but not TOO greedy.
Let's test this simple strategy regardless of our own way of playing.
Errors & Omissions Excepted
Please PLEASE Maintain the tally and keep it updated.
Do remember to bid on time.
I Urge ALL to check their part of it.
I Urge MrSuit31 and any aspiring team players to check more thoroughly.
PLEASE GUYS. At least make your effort to get your bids in on time 9AM Wednesdfay Vegas time
| Name | Bid #6 |
|---|---|
| AxelWolf | High |
| Ayecarumba | High |
| Bigfoot66 | High |
| Canyonero | High |
| DJTeddyBear | High |
| GamerFreak | High |
| GWAE | High |
| PlayYourCardsRight | High |
| RonC | High |
| TwoFeathersATL | High |
| BeachBumBabs | Low |
| Blount2000 | Low |
| Dalex64 | Low |
| Hunterhill | Low |
| IndyJeffrey | Low |
| MrSuit31 | Low |
| OnceDear | Low |
| Paradigm | Low |
| RaleighCraps | Low |
| SooPoo | Low |
| Boz | Not Yet Declared |
| DoughTaker | Not Yet Declared |
| HeyMrDJ | Not Yet Declared |
| Joeman | Not Yet Declared |
| Miplet | Not Yet Declared |
| MrGoldenSun | Not Yet Declared |
| OdiousGambit | Not Yet Declared |
| Romes | Not Yet Declared |
| RS | Not Yet Declared |
| RudeBoyoi | Not Yet Declared |
| TomG | Not Yet Declared |
| Torghatten | Not Yet Declared |
| Wizardofnothing | Not Yet Declared |
| Wudged | Not Yet Declared |
| CharliePatrick | Undisclosed |
| Doc | Undisclosed |
| Joeshlabotnik | Undisclosed |
| Onenickelmiracle | Undisclosed |
| BeerSeason | Eliminated Round #1 |
| Gordon888 | Eliminated |
| JyBrd0403 | Eliminated |
| Jml24 | Eliminated |
| MathExtremist | Eliminated Round #1 |
| Mission146 | Eliminated |
| Paigowdan | Eliminated |
| PeeMcGee | Eliminated |
| TheorieMeister | Eliminated |
Some in that list might already have been eliminated.
By my reckoning we have 39 players of which
10 have claimed to have bid high
10 have claimed to have bid low
4 have chosen to not disclose their bid
Some have not YET disclosed their bid
The last few bidders will have great power and great responsibility. Lets be a bit greedy but not TOO greedy.
Let's test this simple strategy regardless of our own way of playing.
Errors & Omissions Excepted
Please PLEASE Maintain the tally and keep it updated.
Do remember to bid on time.
Last edited by: OnceDear on Sep 6, 2016
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 6th, 2016 at 1:42:34 AM
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My guess at least three people need to go from high to low to maintain the round not letting it fail. Might need more than three since a few have declared a low to high switch, but don't remember how many. Assume undisclosed means predominantly high.
I am a robot.
September 6th, 2016 at 2:45:38 AM
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Updated to add in OdiousGambit, to note a few eliminated players, and to take account of the list kindly provided by Mike.
Fixed for Canyonero, GWAE, Paradign and Joeshlabotnik
I Urge ALL to check their part of it.
I Urge MrSuit31 and any aspiring team players to check more thoroughly.
PLEASE GUYS. At least make your effort to get your bids in on time 9AM Wednesdfay Vegas time
Some in that list might already have been eliminated.
By my reckoning we have 39 players of which
10 have claimed to have bid high
10 have claimed to have bid low
4 have chosen to not disclose their bid
14 have not YET disclosed their bid
Total who could potentially bid high, based on the declarations = 29/39 : We are in dangerous territory!!!
The last few bidders will have great power and great responsibility. Lets be a bit greedy but not TOO greedy.
Let's test this simple strategy regardless of our own way of playing.
Errors & Omissions Excepted
Please PLEASE Maintain the tally and keep it updated.
Do remember to bid on time.I won't be able to maintain this list right up to the deadline. So Guys...
Please update and append to help those pivotal last bidders
Fixed for Canyonero, GWAE, Paradign and Joeshlabotnik
I Urge ALL to check their part of it.
I Urge MrSuit31 and any aspiring team players to check more thoroughly.
PLEASE GUYS. At least make your effort to get your bids in on time 9AM Wednesdfay Vegas time
| Name | Bid #6 |
|---|---|
| AxelWolf | High |
| Ayecarumba | High |
| Bigfoot66 | High |
| Canyonero | High |
| DJTeddyBear | High |
| GamerFreak | High |
| GWAE | High |
| PlayYourCardsRight | High |
| RonC | High |
| TwoFeathersATL | High |
| BeachBumBabs | Low |
| Blount2000 | Low |
| Dalex64 | Low |
| Hunterhill | Low |
| IndyJeffrey | Low |
| MrSuit31 | Low |
| OnceDear | Low |
| Paradigm | Low |
| RaleighCraps | Low |
| SooPoo | Low |
| Boz | Not Yet Declared |
| DoughTaker | Not Yet Declared |
| HeyMrDJ | Not Yet Declared |
| Joeman | Not Yet Declared |
| Miplet | Not Yet Declared |
| MrGoldenSun | Not Yet Declared |
| OdiousGambit | Not Yet Declared |
| Romes | Not Yet Declared |
| RS | Not Yet Declared |
| RudeBoyoi | Not Yet Declared |
| TomG | Not Yet Declared |
| Torghatten | Not Yet Declared |
| Wizardofnothing | Not Yet Declared |
| Wudged | Not Yet Declared |
| CharliePatrick | Undisclosed |
| Doc | Undisclosed |
| Joeshlabotnik | Undisclosed |
| Onenickelmiracle | Undisclosed |
| BeerSeason | Eliminated Round #1 |
| Gordon888 | Eliminated |
| JyBrd0403 | Eliminated |
| Jml24 | Eliminated |
| MathExtremist | Eliminated Round #1 |
| Mission146 | Eliminated |
| Paigowdan | Eliminated |
| PeeMcGee | Eliminated |
| TheorieMeister | Eliminated |
Some in that list might already have been eliminated.
By my reckoning we have 39 players of which
10 have claimed to have bid high
10 have claimed to have bid low
4 have chosen to not disclose their bid
14 have not YET disclosed their bid
Total who could potentially bid high, based on the declarations = 29/39 : We are in dangerous territory!!!
The last few bidders will have great power and great responsibility. Lets be a bit greedy but not TOO greedy.
Let's test this simple strategy regardless of our own way of playing.
Errors & Omissions Excepted
Please PLEASE Maintain the tally and keep it updated.
Do remember to bid on time.I won't be able to maintain this list right up to the deadline. So Guys...
Please update and append to help those pivotal last bidders
Last edited by: OnceDear on Sep 6, 2016
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 6th, 2016 at 5:59:33 AM
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I'm voting $1.
10 - High
11 - Low
4 - Undisclosed
13 - Not Declared
10 - High
11 - Low
4 - Undisclosed
13 - Not Declared
| Name | Bid #6 |
|---|---|
| AxelWolf | High |
| Ayecarumba | High |
| Bigfoot66 | High |
| Canyonero | High |
| DJTeddyBear | High |
| GamerFreak | High |
| GWAE | High |
| PlayYourCardsRight | High |
| RonC | High |
| TwoFeathersATL | High |
| BeachBumBabs | Low |
| Blount2000 | Low |
| Dalex64 | Low |
| Hunterhill | Low |
| IndyJeffrey | Low |
| MrSuit31 | Low |
| OnceDear | Low |
| Paradigm | Low |
| RaleighCraps | Low |
| SooPoo | Low |
| Joeman | Low |
| Boz | Not Yet Declared |
| DoughTaker | Not Yet Declared |
| HeyMrDJ | Not Yet Declared |
| Miplet | Not Yet Declared |
| MrGoldenSun | Not Yet Declared |
| OdiousGambit | Not Yet Declared |
| Romes | Not Yet Declared |
| RS | Not Yet Declared |
| RudeBoyoi | Not Yet Declared |
| TomG | Not Yet Declared |
| Torghatten | Not Yet Declared |
| Wizardofnothing | Not Yet Declared |
| Wudged | Not Yet Declared |
| CharliePatrick | Undisclosed |
| Doc | Undisclosed |
| Joeshlabotnik | Undisclosed |
| Onenickelmiracle | Undisclosed |
| BeerSeason | Eliminated Round #1 |
| Gordon888 | Eliminated |
| JyBrd0403 | Eliminated |
| Jml24 | Eliminated |
| MathExtremist | Eliminated Round #1 |
| Mission146 | Eliminated |
| Paigowdan | Eliminated |
| PeeMcGee | Eliminated |
| TheorieMeister | Eliminated |
"Dealer has 'rock'... Pay 'paper!'"
September 6th, 2016 at 7:06:58 AM
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I also voted $1, as I have the entire time...
10 - High
12 - Low
4 - Undisclosed
12 - Not Declared
Whilst I'll say GOOD JOB on the last round... Look how close it was. Really, we just got lucky. We didn't orchestrate that result, we just tried to get everyone to bid low and got REALLY LUCKY that we weren't 1 more person off. Now that not only did we win, but the money went back down, this puts us in further jeopardy of people going "Well hell it's not even $4 so I might as well pick $2."
Going up to $4 was not a thing Mike did on a whim, and neither is reducing back to $2. He's (within his right) trying to get us to fail! We need to have some padding and the understanding that 0 variance is better than "max EV" which I'll bet with anyone we do NOT get again.
10 - High
12 - Low
4 - Undisclosed
12 - Not Declared
| Name | Bid #6 |
|---|---|
| AxelWolf | High |
| Ayecarumba | High |
| Bigfoot66 | High |
| Canyonero | High |
| DJTeddyBear | High |
| GamerFreak | High |
| GWAE | High |
| PlayYourCardsRight | High |
| RonC | High |
| TwoFeathersATL | High |
| BeachBumBabs | Low |
| Blount2000 | Low |
| Dalex64 | Low |
| Hunterhill | Low |
| IndyJeffrey | Low |
| MrSuit31 | Low |
| OnceDear | Low |
| Paradigm | Low |
| RaleighCraps | Low |
| SooPoo | Low |
| Joeman | Low |
| Romes | Low |
| Boz | Not Yet Declared |
| DoughTaker | Not Yet Declared |
| HeyMrDJ | Not Yet Declared |
| Miplet | Not Yet Declared |
| MrGoldenSun | Not Yet Declared |
| OdiousGambit | Not Yet Declared |
| RS | Not Yet Declared |
| RudeBoyoi | Not Yet Declared |
| TomG | Not Yet Declared |
| Torghatten | Not Yet Declared |
| Wizardofnothing | Not Yet Declared |
| Wudged | Not Yet Declared |
| CharliePatrick | Undisclosed |
| Doc | Undisclosed |
| Joeshlabotnik | Undisclosed |
| Onenickelmiracle | Undisclosed |
| BeerSeason | Eliminated Round #1 |
| Gordon888 | Eliminated |
| JyBrd0403 | Eliminated |
| Jml24 | Eliminated |
| MathExtremist | Eliminated Round #1 |
| Mission146 | Eliminated |
| Paigowdan | Eliminated |
| PeeMcGee | Eliminated |
| TheorieMeister | Eliminated |
Whilst I'll say GOOD JOB on the last round... Look how close it was. Really, we just got lucky. We didn't orchestrate that result, we just tried to get everyone to bid low and got REALLY LUCKY that we weren't 1 more person off. Now that not only did we win, but the money went back down, this puts us in further jeopardy of people going "Well hell it's not even $4 so I might as well pick $2."
Going up to $4 was not a thing Mike did on a whim, and neither is reducing back to $2. He's (within his right) trying to get us to fail! We need to have some padding and the understanding that 0 variance is better than "max EV" which I'll bet with anyone we do NOT get again.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
September 6th, 2016 at 9:14:34 AM
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I sent in my usual $1 bid.
10 - High
13 - Low
4 - Undisclosed
11- Not Declared
10 - High
13 - Low
4 - Undisclosed
11- Not Declared
“Man Babes” #AxelFabulous
September 6th, 2016 at 9:34:53 AM
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We should really take the "Undisclosed" as High bids.
...So the way I see it:
14 - High
13 - Low
11 - Not Declared
...So the way I see it:
14 - High
13 - Low
11 - Not Declared
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
September 6th, 2016 at 9:35:07 AM
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Quote: mipletI sent in my usual $1 bid.
10 - High
13 - Low
4 - Undisclosed
11- Not Declared
14 - High
13 - Low
"Undisclosed"
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 6th, 2016 at 11:38:57 AM
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If we can just pop in enough extra low bids, we can do significantly better than we did in round #1.
We cannot assume that the 'not yet disclosed' haven't already PM'd Mike with their high bids.
I still urge all who haven't declared their bids to do so now, whether they were high or low.
You can even say 'I have pm'd the Wizard, but I'm not disclosing' and that will be useful to us all.
Also, if you haven't placed your PM to Wizard yet, please do so ASAP. our lives are in your hands.
Remember when...
We cannot assume that the 'not yet disclosed' haven't already PM'd Mike with their high bids.
I still urge all who haven't declared their bids to do so now, whether they were high or low.
You can even say 'I have pm'd the Wizard, but I'm not disclosing' and that will be useful to us all.
Also, if you haven't placed your PM to Wizard yet, please do so ASAP. our lives are in your hands.
Remember when...
Quote: WizardHere are the results of round 1 of the 33 who submitted a pick.
Pick Count $1 22 $2 11 Total 33
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:06:41 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsYa know, this could have been easy. Do it the same as the perfect round 5, whatever you picked. Agree winnings will be evenly split. All done.
But, no. This guy's a holdout. That guy's a randomizer. The other guy's lying.
Herding cats on linoleum with no litter box in sight would be easier.
Good thing I don't need the money.
lol, and there lies the point of the game and what makes it interesting
The optimal solution is super simple, but it's a social experiment, not a math experiment.
September 6th, 2016 at 12:59:20 PM
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Quote: Wizard
- If 50% or more players choose $2, then everybody will win $0.
Guys,
We cannot afford to have 50%, let alone more than 50% bidding high.
I believe we may well have already blown it.
We have to consider that a selection of those who have not declared their bid, and may never do so, have already slipped in their high bid to Mike. They may well be too shy to reveal that now or ever.
We have 38 players. Let's generously assume that one fails to bid.
Gives us 37 bids on recent form.
We know that 10 have declared they will bid high.
We know that only 13 have declared they will bid low.
4 decided not to disclose.
It's possible that some who have declared have not yet actually placed their bid and may switch sides, in either direction.
It's also possible, nay likely, that some of the 11 who have not yet declared have already bid high, or are inclined to bid, high.
If among the 4 non-disclosers, plus the 11 non-declarers, we have 9 or more high bids, then we are screwed.
I fear we are screwed.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
September 6th, 2016 at 1:50:58 PM
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"Lives" ???Quote: OnceDearAlso, if you haven't placed your PM to Wizard yet, please do so ASAP. our lives are in your hands.
I think you need to take a deep breath, hold it a bit, let it out slowly, and repeat a few times.
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