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mkl654321
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March 27th, 2011 at 4:01:08 PM permalink
And why?
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RobSinger
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March 27th, 2011 at 4:08:23 PM permalink
I wouldn't do anything until I knew exactly who or what the rebels represent. Then whatever the outcome and decision, I'd set the same policy for every one of those POS countries.
pacomartin
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March 27th, 2011 at 4:09:05 PM permalink
I have never seen a picture of "Sayyid Muhammad al-Rida bin Sayyid Hasan ar-Rida al-Mahdi as-Senussi" (born 20 October 1962) who the royalist claimant to the throne. I believe the Spanish monarchy was restored after 41 years of Francisco Franco's rule, so why not Libya?
P90
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March 27th, 2011 at 4:24:13 PM permalink
If there was no oil in Lybia, no one would care about it any more than about Somalia.
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DeMango
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March 27th, 2011 at 4:32:55 PM permalink
Does anyone really think our invovement will lead to less deaths overall?

Does anyone really think this will not cost us lots of money long term, in say rebuilding what we are blowing up, as in Iraq?

So basically we are trading bombs for oil?

So if we achieve regime change, who is the new boss? Will he be the same as the old boss?

At least everyone "knew" going in, that Saddam had WMD, what did MQ do to us after he became our BFF?
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P90
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March 27th, 2011 at 4:42:38 PM permalink
US has a lot more SUVs these days than back in the 1980s-1990s. A moderate external policy is no longer affordable if US is to push its oil consumption to new records.

That, and a small victorious war is all it takes to pull the media focus away from a failing government that has gone back on next to all its election promises.
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AZDuffman
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March 27th, 2011 at 4:45:42 PM permalink
I'd let it go until it appeared we had an interest. Lybia stole our oil back in the 1970s but nothing was done. We should have told France they were on their own if they wanted to act.

My question to all the Obama supporters/Bush haters is this: Are you going to now go around calling Obama a chickenhawk?
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RobSinger
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March 27th, 2011 at 5:47:55 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

I'd let it go until it appeared we had an interest. Lybia stole our oil back in the 1970s but nothing was done. We should have told France they were on their own if they wanted to act.

My question to all the Obama supporters/Bush haters is this: Are you going to now go around calling Obama a chickenhawk?



I don't see Obama as chicken here--just inexperienced & confused. The only thing he's REALLY afraid of is producing a birth certificate.
Toes14
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March 27th, 2011 at 9:00:05 PM permalink
I'd leave the action up to the UN & the rest of the world, and sit this one out. We're already overextended in two wars we're not winning & have no exit strategy or end date for. The economy still sucks, and the country needs a lot of internal work.

Why open up a third military action that's going to cost us even more money & soldier's lives, when we should be focusing internally? Let's get our own house in order before trying to change the rest of the world.
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Wizard
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March 28th, 2011 at 9:42:26 AM permalink
Quote: weaselman

Are you saying that asking for a proof that an elected official has the legal right to be in office is right-wing extremism?
Sounds a bit ... ummm ... extreme, doesn't it? :)



First, the state of Hawaii has stated he was born there. That is good enough for me.

Second, it isn't so much the birth certificate itself, but that those who rant about it always seem to be right-wing extremists about more important issues. Raising the birth certificate issue is a convenient red flag to not bother listening to anything said person has to say.
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