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July 31st, 2026 at 3:10:46 PM permalink
Sometimes when i play baccarat, they shuffle 8 decks then put into a shoe. Other times they use a brand new cardboard box with 8 preshuffled decks in it. They dont shuffle, and put that directly into shoe. Is there any reasons for this? Can the preshuffled 8 deck be manipulated?
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July 31st, 2026 at 3:27:01 PM permalink
An article from the past ..

https://ictnews.org/archive/atlantic-city-casino-sues-players-who-won-15-million-on-unshuffled-deck/
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July 31st, 2026 at 3:45:54 PM permalink
Thank you. Good article. Did not know they been preshuffling shoes since 2012. Does this help the casino?
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July 31st, 2026 at 3:51:14 PM permalink
Manufacturers say that preshuffling the cards saves the casino a little time, particularly on "squeeze" games, where the cards are often used once and removed from the floor.

That particular case relied on the manufacturers saying they shuffled the cards, but actually just always set them to the same unusual new deck order.
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July 31st, 2026 at 4:40:31 PM permalink
Quote: Dieter

Manufacturers say that preshuffling the cards saves the casino a little time, particularly on "squeeze" games, where the cards are often used once and removed from the floor.

That particular case relied on the manufacturers saying they shuffled the cards, but actually just always set them to the same unusual new deck order.
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How could it have been cheaper for the manufacturer to preset each deck rather than shuffle them? I'd think that at some point they must have really been pre-shuffling the cards in order to get the contracts.
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July 31st, 2026 at 4:55:32 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

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Manufacturers say that preshuffling the cards saves the casino a little time, particularly on "squeeze" games, where the cards are often used once and removed from the floor.

That particular case relied on the manufacturers saying they shuffled the cards, but actually just always set them to the same unusual new deck order.
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How could it have been cheaper for the manufacturer to preset each deck rather than shuffle them? I'd think that at some point they must have really been pre-shuffling the cards in order to get the contracts.
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I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect they were printing the cards that way, rather than running them through a shuffler.
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July 31st, 2026 at 6:45:52 PM permalink
Given the game of baccarat having two opposing bets, trying to rig a game to one side or the other would be close to pointless.

I suppose you could rig to prevent a sidebet from hitting. Or let's say ties, you don't want anyone to ever win the Tie bet.

Easy Math Question: is it possible to rig an 8-deck baccarat shoe to reduce the frequency of ties, given a random cut by a player?
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July 31st, 2026 at 8:25:15 PM permalink
My casino uses the pre-shuffled cards, and we still run them through the shuffler before playing them.

Where the time is saved is ordinarily, eight decks would be opened, prepped and pre-shuffled into an eight-deck shoe before being put on a table, where it would still go through the machine before playing. This same procedure is done on blackjack-style games. These pre-shuffled setups eliminate the first half of that procedure.
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August 1st, 2026 at 5:20:24 AM permalink
Quote: AutomaticMonkey


Easy Math Question: is it possible to rig an 8-deck baccarat shoe to reduce the frequency of ties, given a random cut by a player?
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Yes, it is possible.
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