Baccarat 8 deck
July 31st, 2026 at 3:10:46 PM
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Sometimes when i play baccarat, they shuffle 8 decks then put into a shoe. Other times they use a brand new cardboard box with 8 preshuffled decks in it. They dont shuffle, and put that directly into shoe. Is there any reasons for this? Can the preshuffled 8 deck be manipulated?
July 31st, 2026 at 3:27:01 PM
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An article from the past ..
https://ictnews.org/archive/atlantic-city-casino-sues-players-who-won-15-million-on-unshuffled-deck/
https://ictnews.org/archive/atlantic-city-casino-sues-players-who-won-15-million-on-unshuffled-deck/
May the cards fall in your favor.
July 31st, 2026 at 3:45:54 PM
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Thank you. Good article. Did not know they been preshuffling shoes since 2012. Does this help the casino?
July 31st, 2026 at 3:51:14 PM
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Manufacturers say that preshuffling the cards saves the casino a little time, particularly on "squeeze" games, where the cards are often used once and removed from the floor.
That particular case relied on the manufacturers saying they shuffled the cards, but actually just always set them to the same unusual new deck order.
That particular case relied on the manufacturers saying they shuffled the cards, but actually just always set them to the same unusual new deck order.
May the cards fall in your favor.
July 31st, 2026 at 4:40:31 PM
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Quote: DieterManufacturers say that preshuffling the cards saves the casino a little time, particularly on "squeeze" games, where the cards are often used once and removed from the floor.
That particular case relied on the manufacturers saying they shuffled the cards, but actually just always set them to the same unusual new deck order.
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How could it have been cheaper for the manufacturer to preset each deck rather than shuffle them? I'd think that at some point they must have really been pre-shuffling the cards in order to get the contracts.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
July 31st, 2026 at 4:55:32 PM
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Quote: billryanQuote: DieterManufacturers say that preshuffling the cards saves the casino a little time, particularly on "squeeze" games, where the cards are often used once and removed from the floor.
That particular case relied on the manufacturers saying they shuffled the cards, but actually just always set them to the same unusual new deck order.
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How could it have been cheaper for the manufacturer to preset each deck rather than shuffle them? I'd think that at some point they must have really been pre-shuffling the cards in order to get the contracts.
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I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect they were printing the cards that way, rather than running them through a shuffler.
May the cards fall in your favor.
