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November 14th, 2024 at 11:33:54 AM permalink
I leased an electric Honda today.

I'd taken my 2016 Mazda in for servicing and was given a projected bill of over $2,000. It needed four tires, brakes, and points, and it was recommended that I flush out the radiator and replace three filters.
Honda was advertising $320 monthly leases on their Prologues with $3,000 down. After some intense negotiation, which involved me walking away twice, we struck a deal that worked great for me: 42 months at $105 plus my trade-in. That includes my first month's payment plus the registration fee, which would be over $1,000 for a first-time registration in Arizona. It also came with a portable charger and a couple hundred dollars in public charging credits. A 15-minute fast charge looks like it costs about $5 off hours and will give me a 125 range. They deliver it tomorrow.

New Hondas no longer include a spare. It comes with a fixed flat kit.
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November 14th, 2024 at 11:55:06 AM permalink
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I leased an electric Honda today.

I'd taken my 2016 Mazda in for servicing and was given a projected bill of over $2,000. It needed four tires, brakes, and points, and it was recommended that I flush out the radiator and replace three filters.
Honda was advertising $320 monthly leases on their Prologues with $3,000 down. After some intense negotiation, which involved me walking away twice, we struck a deal that worked great for me: 42 months at $105 plus my trade-in. That includes my first month's payment plus the registration fee, which would be over $1,000 for a first-time registration in Arizona. It also came with a portable charger and a couple hundred dollars in public charging credits. A 15-minute fast charge looks like it costs about $5 off hours and will give me a 125 range. They deliver it tomorrow.

New Hondas no longer include a spare. It comes with a fixed flat kit.
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Points??????
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November 14th, 2024 at 12:13:19 PM permalink
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I leased an electric Honda today.

I'd taken my 2016 Mazda in for servicing and was given a projected bill of over $2,000. It needed four tires, brakes, and points, and it was recommended that I flush out the radiator and replace three filters.
Honda was advertising $320 monthly leases on their Prologues with $3,000 down. After some intense negotiation, which involved me walking away twice, we struck a deal that worked great for me: 42 months at $105 plus my trade-in. That includes my first month's payment plus the registration fee, which would be over $1,000 for a first-time registration in Arizona. It also came with a portable charger and a couple hundred dollars in public charging credits. A 15-minute fast charge looks like it costs about $5 off hours and will give me a 125 range. They deliver it tomorrow.

New Hondas no longer include a spare. It comes with a fixed flat kit.
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Points??????
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It might have been plugs, I'm not a car guy. I was thinking of investing a few hundred and it was over two thousand. I've never looked inside the engine. It is sealed .
The tires set me off. He gave me a price for four,and after I said okay, he mentioned it's $18 a tire to install them, plus a fee for disposing of the old ones, three dollars each for the valves, plus some sort of surcharge. The $500 quote turned into close to $700 in reality.
It has a 290-mile range, so I'll have to stop for lunch when driving to Las Vegas or Santa Fe. It may be problematic for a few longer trips, but I'll manage.
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but an noted security expert stated that these other countries do not have the capability to produce aircraft with such extraordinary capabilities


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This part I wanted to address. The US military has as much interest in fooling the potential enemy as doing real things. If they can create the impression that a thousand objects are approaching on their adversaries radar that can have an advantage in certain situations.

Decoys, camouflage, and making things appear to do advanced movements would certainly be desirable in the bag of tricks.
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November 14th, 2024 at 4:08:21 PM permalink
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I leased an electric Honda today.

I'd taken my 2016 Mazda in for servicing and was given a projected bill of over $2,000. It needed four tires, brakes, and points, and it was recommended that I flush out the radiator and replace three filters.
Honda was advertising $320 monthly leases on their Prologues with $3,000 down. After some intense negotiation, which involved me walking away twice, we struck a deal that worked great for me: 42 months at $105 plus my trade-in. That includes my first month's payment plus the registration fee, which would be over $1,000 for a first-time registration in Arizona. It also came with a portable charger and a couple hundred dollars in public charging credits. A 15-minute fast charge looks like it costs about $5 off hours and will give me a 125 range. They deliver it tomorrow.

New Hondas no longer include a spare. It comes with a fixed flat kit.
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Points??????
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Plugs makes more sense. Might have been coils, which I need to install next week. No car I am aware of has had points since 1973ish.

It might have been plugs, I'm not a car guy. I was thinking of investing a few hundred and it was over two thousand. I've never looked inside the engine. It is sealed .
The tires set me off. He gave me a price for four,and after I said okay, he mentioned it's $18 a tire to install them, plus a fee for disposing of the old ones, three dollars each for the valves, plus some sort of surcharge. The $500 quote turned into close to $700 in reality.
It has a 290-mile range, so I'll have to stop for lunch when driving to Las Vegas or Santa Fe. It may be problematic for a few longer trips, but I'll manage.
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November 14th, 2024 at 5:21:43 PM permalink
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I leased an electric Honda today.

I'd taken my 2016 Mazda in for servicing and was given a projected bill of over $2,000. It needed four tires, brakes, and points, and it was recommended that I flush out the radiator and replace three filters.
Honda was advertising $320 monthly leases on their Prologues with $3,000 down. After some intense negotiation, which involved me walking away twice, we struck a deal that worked great for me: 42 months at $105 plus my trade-in. That includes my first month's payment plus the registration fee, which would be over $1,000 for a first-time registration in Arizona. It also came with a portable charger and a couple hundred dollars in public charging credits. A 15-minute fast charge looks like it costs about $5 off hours and will give me a 125 range. They deliver it tomorrow.

New Hondas no longer include a spare. It comes with a fixed flat kit.
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New Honda also come with free roadside assistance so you would never have to change a flat. I have used it on my Honda even in my own driveway. I haven't changed a flat in over 30 years.

Generally a poor idea to lease a car longer than the bumper to bumper warranty.
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November 14th, 2024 at 5:35:44 PM permalink
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I leased an electric Honda today.

I'd taken my 2016 Mazda in for servicing and was given a projected bill of over $2,000. It needed four tires, brakes, and points, and it was recommended that I flush out the radiator and replace three filters.
Honda was advertising $320 monthly leases on their Prologues with $3,000 down. After some intense negotiation, which involved me walking away twice, we struck a deal that worked great for me: 42 months at $105 plus my trade-in. That includes my first month's payment plus the registration fee, which would be over $1,000 for a first-time registration in Arizona. It also came with a portable charger and a couple hundred dollars in public charging credits. A 15-minute fast charge looks like it costs about $5 off hours and will give me a 125 range. They deliver it tomorrow.

New Hondas no longer include a spare. It comes with a fixed flat kit.
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New Honda also come with free roadside assistance so you would never have to change a flat. I have used it on my Honda even in my own driveway. I haven't changed a flat in over 30 years.

Generally a poor idea to lease a car longer than the bumper to bumper warranty.
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It's a 36-month lease with an optional six-month extension. It has a bumper-to-bumper 36-month warranty and free servicing for 24 months, but I don't know what that means. There are no oil changes.
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November 14th, 2024 at 5:50:10 PM permalink
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I leased an electric Honda today.

I'd taken my 2016 Mazda in for servicing and was given a projected bill of over $2,000. It needed four tires, brakes, and points, and it was recommended that I flush out the radiator and replace three filters.
Honda was advertising $320 monthly leases on their Prologues with $3,000 down. After some intense negotiation, which involved me walking away twice, we struck a deal that worked great for me: 42 months at $105 plus my trade-in. That includes my first month's payment plus the registration fee, which would be over $1,000 for a first-time registration in Arizona. It also came with a portable charger and a couple hundred dollars in public charging credits. A 15-minute fast charge looks like it costs about $5 off hours and will give me a 125 range. They deliver it tomorrow.

New Hondas no longer include a spare. It comes with a fixed flat kit.
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New Honda also come with free roadside assistance so you would never have to change a flat. I have used it on my Honda even in my own driveway. I haven't changed a flat in over 30 years.

Generally a poor idea to lease a car longer than the bumper to bumper warranty.
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It's a 36-month lease with an optional six-month extension. It has a bumper-to-bumper 36-month warranty and free servicing for 24 months, but I don't know what that means. There are no oil changes.
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There may be no oil changes, but you do have a battery to worry about.
Things have surely gotten a lot better, but it used to be very worthwhile to pay whatever was demanded to keep the battery in-warranty.
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November 14th, 2024 at 6:23:14 PM permalink
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It has a bumper-to-bumper 36-month warranty and free servicing for 24 months, but I don't know what that means. There are no oil changes.



Good point, I hadn't thought about no oil changes.
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November 14th, 2024 at 6:32:39 PM permalink
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4 people before Congress testifying UFO.s (UAPs) are real.

My theory is the Military is using the “UFO” or aliens to openly test newer “X” military craft. Then they just explain, they saw it also, but don’t know what it is.

Also, it would be fairly easy to expose some military personnel to clever fakery, so they will really believe that something alien is being hidden, to get authentic sounding witnesses for their cover story.
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How do they explain alien anal probing?
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And why does most of it seem to happen around European male bath houses. Very suspicious.
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November 15th, 2024 at 5:30:29 AM permalink
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This part I wanted to address. The US military has as much interest in fooling the potential enemy as doing real things. If they can create the impression that a thousand objects are approaching on their adversaries radar that can have an advantage in certain situations.

Decoys, camouflage, and making things appear to do advanced movements would certainly be desirable in the bag of tricks.
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this could be most of it, or not

some of the incidents IIRC include radar, infared, and *visual* confirmation by the pilots. Of course how would I know if the pilots havent been told to assist in disinformation
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November 15th, 2024 at 10:33:57 AM permalink
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the U.S. Government denied any knowledge of UAPs for a great many years when they did have knowledge of some of these events
it's only fairly recently that they have provided some information on what they have known
if you google you will see many articles re this
there is a a great deal of info re this subject from sources that most normally regard as being credible
Retired Major Grusch is a whistleblower - see link - who claims that the U.S. has retrieved "non human biological matter" from the pilots of the crafts
in the same hearing retired Navy Commander David Fravor spoke of his eerie encounter with a UAP that the Pentagon released in 2020 - see yt vid
the source of the info - NPR - is generally considered a credible news organization

feel free to believe or disbelieve any or all of it - I choose to believe the sightings are real - but I don't think there has been a satisfactory explanation of them





https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190390376/ufo-hearing-non-human-biologics-uaps



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November 15th, 2024 at 11:11:21 AM permalink
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This part I wanted to address. The US military has as much interest in fooling the potential enemy as doing real things. If they can create the impression that a thousand objects are approaching on their adversaries radar that can have an advantage in certain situations.

Decoys, camouflage, and making things appear to do advanced movements would certainly be desirable in the bag of tricks.
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this could be most of it, or not

some of the incidents IIRC include radar, infared, and *visual* confirmation by the pilots. Of course how would I know if the pilots havent been told to assist in disinformation
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David Copperfield made the illusion of the Statue of Liberty disappear. Penn & Teller show how you can be run over by a 18 wheeler without harm. I think people overestimate their ability to not be deceived or to be able to think of alternate explanations. 50 years ago someone using a laser moving really fast to make objects appear in mid air probably would have astounded, yet those are parts of Vegas attractions today.
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November 15th, 2024 at 11:23:49 AM permalink
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This part I wanted to address. The US military has as much interest in fooling the potential enemy as doing real things. If they can create the impression that a thousand objects are approaching on their adversaries radar that can have an advantage in certain situations.

Decoys, camouflage, and making things appear to do advanced movements would certainly be desirable in the bag of tricks.


that is just your speculation
can you provide a source for this______?
I really doubt it
Is the U.S. Military really so brilliant they can fool the entire world and keep their true mission and intentions secret____________?
I doubt that too
I don't believe they're smart enough to pull it off and I think they know they're not smart enough so they wouldn't even try it
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November 15th, 2024 at 11:38:52 AM permalink
Just for example, an illusion of an object moving really fast but doing a slow rotation. It was shaped like a plus sign and rotated slowly. Well, what if you saw a piece of round clear plexiglass with a plus sign from a good distance being flung overhead. Could it not look like a fast moving cross doing a slow rotation? The plus sign having a solid color might look like it was all that was there.
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November 15th, 2024 at 11:50:45 AM permalink
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Just for example, an illusion of an object moving really fast but doing a slow rotation. It was shaped like a plus sign and rotated slowly. Well, what if you saw a piece of round clear plexiglass with a plus sign from a good distance being flung overhead. Could it not look like a fast moving cross doing a slow rotation? The plus sign having a solid color might look like it was all that was there.


well, maybe that would fool me
but would it fool everybody - all kinds of curious people including scientists who would want to investigate it__________?
I doubt it

"you can fool all of the people some of the time -

and you can fool some of the people all of the time -

but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"

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pretty amazing - to me anyway - this 2,000 year old tiny figure of a Roman Gladiator was recently found in the north of England
the Roman Empire at times extended to parts of what is now England - see link
because the figure depicts a left handed person there is speculation that it could be a depiction of a particular Gladiator

even though Gladiators were enslaved they could still become major celebrities




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November 17th, 2024 at 5:02:41 AM permalink
RXwine is a Denier!! who would have thunkit ... j.k.
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November 17th, 2024 at 6:53:17 AM permalink
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RXwine is a Denier!! who would have thunkit ... j.k.
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Oh, I want to believe in UFOs.

I just believe in the process of eliminating all possible alternate explanations first. And you go from the more easily possible to the unlikely possible, before you get to the extraordinary.

edit ufos of alien existence to be exact.
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November 17th, 2024 at 7:28:25 AM permalink
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pretty amazing - to me anyway - this 2,000 year old tiny figure of a Roman Gladiator was recently found in the north of England
the Roman Empire at times extended to parts of what is now England - see link
because the figure depicts a left handed person there is speculation that it could be a depiction of a particular Gladiator

even though Gladiators were enslaved they could still become major celebrities




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https://archive.ph/1B6cx


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Rome's empire stretched from Northern Europe to Persia, and there is some evidence that the Romans built a fortress city in what is now western China. Chinese military tactics have an uncanny similarity to Roman ones, but it is conjecture to state that Legionnaires trained them. They did have common enemies in both Persia and The Mongol Hordes so there may have been some cooperation.
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November 17th, 2024 at 8:57:09 AM permalink
A watch given to the Captain of the ship that rescued the Titanic sold at auction for almost two million dollars. The only photo I've seen of it shows it missing at least two hands.
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November 19th, 2024 at 12:24:10 PM permalink
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Spartacus was a real person - the movie took its plot from some elements of his legend

Atilla the Hun was another legendary figure
he attacked Italy and the Roman Empire with a great deal of success and devastated the northern provinces
but he was unable to capture Rome - he was planning further attacks when he died

from Wiki:

"the barbarian nation of the Huns which was in Thrace became so great that more than 100 cities were captured. And there were so many murders and blood letting that the dead could not be numbered"

his legend among his people was very great and this was said about him at his funeral and what was done at the service

"the Chief of the Huns King Atilla lord of bravest tribes - powers unknown before - captured cities and terrified both empires of the Roman world and took annual tribute to save the rest from plunder.

In the secrecy of night they buried his body in the earth. They bound his coffins the first with gold, the second with silver and the third with the strength of iron; showing that these 3 things suited the mightiest of Kings. Iron because he subdued nations and gold and silver because he received the honors of both empires."

an ancient painting:





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November 19th, 2024 at 12:34:13 PM permalink
People think the Roman Empire ended with the sacking of Rome in the fifth century AD, but it was actually split in two, and the Eastern Empire survived into the Middle Ages. Charles Martel re-established the title of Holy Roman Emperor, and that title passed to his descendants for centuries.
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November 19th, 2024 at 6:25:54 PM permalink
"Google's AI chatbot Gemini tells user to 'please die' and 'you are a waste of time and resources.'"

https://news.sky.com/story/googles-ai-chatbot-gemini-tells-user-to-please-die-and-you-are-a-waste-of-time-and-resources-13256734

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Google told Sky News: "Large language models can sometimes respond with non-sensical responses, and this is an example of that.

"This response violated our policies and we've taken action to prevent similar outputs from occurring."

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November 19th, 2024 at 6:25:57 PM permalink
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People think the Roman Empire ended with the sacking of Rome in the fifth century AD, but it was actually split in two, and the Eastern Empire survived into the Middle Ages. Charles Martel re-established the title of Holy Roman Emperor, and that title passed to his descendants for centuries.
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The Roman Empire never ended it just continued on as the Catholic Church. Going to the basement of the Vatican is a trip into the past because it has all the wealth of Rome from the last 2,000 years.
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November 19th, 2024 at 7:07:23 PM permalink
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RXwine is a Denier!! who would have thunkit ... j.k.
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Oh, I want to believe in UFOs.

I just believe in the process of eliminating all possible alternate explanations first. And you go from the more easily possible to the unlikely possible, before you get to the extraordinary.

edit ufos of alien existence to be exact.
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I agree with what I think is your assessment of it. These are both visual and sensor artifacts created by our military and tested on our military aviators without their knowledge. This is why it's usually military guys seeing it but just during routine missions or training, not when there's anything dangerous going on.
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November 19th, 2024 at 9:52:22 PM permalink
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"Google's AI chatbot Gemini tells user to 'please die' and 'you are a waste of time and resources.'"

https://news.sky.com/story/googles-ai-chatbot-gemini-tells-user-to-please-die-and-you-are-a-waste-of-time-and-resources-13256734

Quote:

Google told Sky News: "Large language models can sometimes respond with non-sensical responses, and this is an example of that.

"This response violated our policies and we've taken action to prevent similar outputs from occurring."


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November 20th, 2024 at 8:13:00 AM permalink
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These are both visual and sensor artifacts created by our military and tested on our military aviators without their knowledge.


that is just not correct
and you provided no source for this because you cannot provide a legitimate source stating what you have stated as facts
it is nothing other than your misguided speculation
U.S. Government agencies have put out a great deal of info on UAPs which I linked in previous posts and I'm not going to link again here
to believe what you are stating is true you would have to believe that all of the info from sources such as the Pentagon and the Director of National Intelligence is false
that they deliberately falsified this information
for what reason I cannot fathom
and if it was all a fraud I cannot believe that Scientists not affiliated with the U.S. Government could not have and would not have exposed all the lies

again, I'm not stating that this represents evidence of alien visitation or presence

just stating that the sightings are real and unexplained

Edit - well, I said I wasn't going to link any more U.S. Government reports but I changed my mind

linked is the Department of Defense report from 2024

in the Executive Summary they state that they have resolved 174 sightings - been able to explain them

and they state "many other cases remain unresolved"

it also states that of the 757 reports (JUST FOR ONE YEAR) 392 came from the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) - not from the military as you have stated

18 reports came from the Administrator of Nuclear Security and Chairman of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission -

I will take this report over your misguided speculation any day of the week

your speculation is as worthless as the speculation of those who falsely claim that these reports prove extraterrestrial visitation




https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/DOD-AARO-Consolidated-Annual-Report-on-UAP-Nov2024.pdf

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November 21st, 2024 at 8:24:45 AM permalink
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How do they explain alien anal probing?
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November 21st, 2024 at 11:42:17 AM permalink
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Quote: AutomaticMonkey

These are both visual and sensor artifacts created by our military and tested on our military aviators without their knowledge.


that is just not correct
and you provided no source for this because you cannot provide a legitimate source stating what you have stated as facts
it is nothing other than your misguided speculation
U.S. Government agencies have put out a great deal of info on UAPs which I linked in previous posts and I'm not going to link again here
to believe what you are stating is true you would have to believe that all of the info from sources such as the Pentagon and the Director of National Intelligence is false
that they deliberately falsified this information
for what reason I cannot fathom
and if it was all a fraud I cannot believe that Scientists not affiliated with the U.S. Government could not have and would not have exposed all the lies

again, I'm not stating that this represents evidence of alien visitation or presence

just stating that the sightings are real and unexplained

Edit - well, I said I wasn't going to link any more U.S. Government reports but I changed my mind

linked is the Department of Defense report from 2024

in the Executive Summary they state that they have resolved 174 sightings - been able to explain them

and they state "many other cases remain unresolved"

it also states that of the 757 reports (JUST FOR ONE YEAR) 392 came from the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) - not from the military as you have stated

18 reports came from the Administrator of Nuclear Security and Chairman of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission -

I will take this report over your misguided speculation any day of the week

your speculation is as worthless as the speculation of those who falsely claim that these reports prove extraterrestrial visitation




https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/DOD-AARO-Consolidated-Annual-Report-on-UAP-Nov2024.pdf

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Yeah!

Now I'm thinking "Denier" is too mild, even though we know the origin of that slap-in-the-face-nym.

But I think RXwine knows why I'm hitting him with it. [Having some fun at his expense]
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November 21st, 2024 at 12:07:02 PM permalink
OK that's the end of all that 'denier' business for me

but what's this today in NY Post?

"A news helicopter incidentally captured a mysterious orb-like object zooming over the Hudson River and past Lower Manhattan."
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https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/11/ufo1.mp4
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November 23rd, 2024 at 1:58:12 AM permalink
From the "When am I going to need to know THIS?" department...

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Family/10-year-calls-911-math-homework/story?id=116092134

10 year old calls 911 for help with math homework, deputy sheriff responds to scene

I'm couldn't come up with a good "To cogitate and to solve" joke to slip in.
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November 23rd, 2024 at 5:04:21 AM permalink
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some more info - a long NYT article on Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars - see link
he now expects 1 million people to be living on Mars in 20 years
"there's a high urgency to making life multi-planetary" he said
all of the 6 different companies he owns all are contributing to this effort
he says he only accumulates assets for the purpose of funding his plan to colonize Mars
to reach Mars his company has built Starship - a 400 foot reusable rocket
he also has a strategy to warm the planet's icy temps with thermonuclear explosions that will create artificial suns
other scientists are skeptical of the plan - imagine that
the image below is a rendering of a base on Mars from his company Space X




https://archive.ph/KHHPq


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November 23rd, 2024 at 1:22:37 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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some more info - a long NYT article on Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars - see link
he now expects 1 million people to be living on Mars in 20 years
"there's a high urgency to making life multi-planetary" he said
all of the 6 different companies he owns all are contributing to this effort
he says he only accumulates assets for the purpose of funding his plan to colonize Mars
to reach Mars his company has built Starship - a 400 foot reusable rocket
he also has a strategy to warm the planet's icy temps with thermonuclear explosions that will create artificial suns
other scientists are skeptical of the plan - imagine that
the image below is a rendering of a base on Mars from his company Space X




https://archive.ph/KHHPq


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I have heard Elon Musk say that in actuality he knows that we will not be on Mars in his lifetime let alone the next 20 years. And colonization is a long way away. He says if you want to achieve something try to overachieve it and that's what he's doing, laying the groundwork for the future. He already did something pretty amazing, he started a car company from absolutely nothing and now it is the most valuable car company in the world. And it's building robots that will make him even more money than the cars did.
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November 23rd, 2024 at 2:13:36 PM permalink
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November 23rd, 2024 at 3:27:47 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Quote: lilredrooster

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some more info - a long NYT article on Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars - see link
he now expects 1 million people to be living on Mars in 20 years
"there's a high urgency to making life multi-planetary" he said
all of the 6 different companies he owns all are contributing to this effort
he says he only accumulates assets for the purpose of funding his plan to colonize Mars
to reach Mars his company has built Starship - a 400 foot reusable rocket
he also has a strategy to warm the planet's icy temps with thermonuclear explosions that will create artificial suns
other scientists are skeptical of the plan - imagine that
the image below is a rendering of a base on Mars from his company Space X




https://archive.ph/KHHPq


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I have heard Elon Musk say that in actuality he knows that we will not be on Mars in his lifetime let alone the next 20 years. And colonization is a long way away. He says if you want to achieve something try to overachieve it and that's what he's doing, laying the groundwork for the future. He already did something pretty amazing, he started a car company from absolutely nothing and now it is the most valuable car company in the world. And it's building robots that will make him even more money than the cars did.
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Started? I thought he bought in after it was already producing?
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November 23rd, 2024 at 4:36:16 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: lilredrooster

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some more info - a long NYT article on Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars - see link
he now expects 1 million people to be living on Mars in 20 years
"there's a high urgency to making life multi-planetary" he said
all of the 6 different companies he owns all are contributing to this effort
he says he only accumulates assets for the purpose of funding his plan to colonize Mars
to reach Mars his company has built Starship - a 400 foot reusable rocket
he also has a strategy to warm the planet's icy temps with thermonuclear explosions that will create artificial suns
other scientists are skeptical of the plan - imagine that
the image below is a rendering of a base on Mars from his company Space X




https://archive.ph/KHHPq

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I have heard Elon Musk say that in actuality he knows that we will not be on Mars in his lifetime let alone the next 20 years. And colonization is a long way away. He says if you want to achieve something try to overachieve it and that's what he's doing, laying the groundwork for the future. He already did something pretty amazing, he started a car company from absolutely nothing and now it is the most valuable car company in the world. And it's building robots that will make him even more money than the cars did.
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Started? I thought he bought in after it was already producing?
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Musk rescued the company when it had no cash and sold only a few Roadsters. He was retroactively awarded founders
status. He is listed as a founder on their official website.
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November 23rd, 2024 at 4:53:18 PM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: lilredrooster

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some more info - a long NYT article on Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars - see link
he now expects 1 million people to be living on Mars in 20 years
"there's a high urgency to making life multi-planetary" he said
all of the 6 different companies he owns all are contributing to this effort
he says he only accumulates assets for the purpose of funding his plan to colonize Mars
to reach Mars his company has built Starship - a 400 foot reusable rocket
he also has a strategy to warm the planet's icy temps with thermonuclear explosions that will create artificial suns
other scientists are skeptical of the plan - imagine that
the image below is a rendering of a base on Mars from his company Space X




https://archive.ph/KHHPq


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I have heard Elon Musk say that in actuality he knows that we will not be on Mars in his lifetime let alone the next 20 years. And colonization is a long way away. He says if you want to achieve something try to overachieve it and that's what he's doing, laying the groundwork for the future. He already did something pretty amazing, he started a car company from absolutely nothing and now it is the most valuable car company in the world. And it's building robots that will make him even more money than the cars did.
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Started? I thought he bought in after it was already producing?
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7 months after Tesla Motors was founded Elon Musk became its largest investor and shareholder and became chairman of the board. Musk is legally a co-founder of the company and is referred to as such. In 2008 he became CEO.
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November 24th, 2024 at 2:56:24 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: lilredrooster

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some more info - a long NYT article on Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars - see link
he now expects 1 million people to be living on Mars in 20 years
"there's a high urgency to making life multi-planetary" he said
all of the 6 different companies he owns all are contributing to this effort
he says he only accumulates assets for the purpose of funding his plan to colonize Mars
to reach Mars his company has built Starship - a 400 foot reusable rocket
he also has a strategy to warm the planet's icy temps with thermonuclear explosions that will create artificial suns
other scientists are skeptical of the plan - imagine that
the image below is a rendering of a base on Mars from his company Space X




https://archive.ph/KHHPq

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link to original post



I have heard Elon Musk say that in actuality he knows that we will not be on Mars in his lifetime let alone the next 20 years. And colonization is a long way away. He says if you want to achieve something try to overachieve it and that's what he's doing, laying the groundwork for the future. He already did something pretty amazing, he started a car company from absolutely nothing and now it is the most valuable car company in the world. And it's building robots that will make him even more money than the cars did.
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Started? I thought he bought in after it was already producing?
link to original post




Musk rescued the company when it had no cash and sold only a few Roadsters. He was retroactively awarded founders
status. He is listed as a founder on their official website.
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Not at all like Ray Kroc then. Kroc actually founded McDonald's corporation. Musk just came on very, very early.

I remain mixed on Musk. Some people hold the guy up to corporate-god status. I am more the line of anyone can shovel billions into projects like he has with the mixed results he has gotten.
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November 24th, 2024 at 4:02:15 AM permalink
Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: billryan

Quote: AZDuffman

Quote: EvenBob

Quote: lilredrooster

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some more info - a long NYT article on Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars - see link
he now expects 1 million people to be living on Mars in 20 years
"there's a high urgency to making life multi-planetary" he said
all of the 6 different companies he owns all are contributing to this effort
he says he only accumulates assets for the purpose of funding his plan to colonize Mars
to reach Mars his company has built Starship - a 400 foot reusable rocket
he also has a strategy to warm the planet's icy temps with thermonuclear explosions that will create artificial suns
other scientists are skeptical of the plan - imagine that
the image below is a rendering of a base on Mars from his company Space X




https://archive.ph/KHHPq

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link to original post



I have heard Elon Musk say that in actuality he knows that we will not be on Mars in his lifetime let alone the next 20 years. And colonization is a long way away. He says if you want to achieve something try to overachieve it and that's what he's doing, laying the groundwork for the future. He already did something pretty amazing, he started a car company from absolutely nothing and now it is the most valuable car company in the world. And it's building robots that will make him even more money than the cars did.
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Started? I thought he bought in after it was already producing?
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Musk rescued the company when it had no cash and sold only a few Roadsters. He was retroactively awarded founders
status. He is listed as a founder on their official website.
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Not at all like Ray Kroc then. Kroc actually founded McDonald's corporation. Musk just came on very, very early.

I remain mixed on Musk. Some people hold the guy up to corporate-god status. I am more the line of anyone can shovel billions into projects like he has with the mixed results he has gotten.
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You and I have a different slant on ‘mixed results’. The SUM of all his ‘results’ is his ‘RESULT’. Add up all his projects and he went from a millionaire to a 1/4 TRILLIONAIRE. So if some of his projects failed, it certainly hasn’t affected HIM overall.

I am so looking forward to what he can do.

‘Mr Smith, Musk just cut $5billion from your department by eliminating XYZ. How will this affect the American people?’
‘Well, the 5,000 people who I have to fire won’t have jobs. Otherwise, NOT AT ALL!’
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November 24th, 2024 at 4:59:44 AM permalink
Remember these guys: "Tesla was founded in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motor"

Me neither.

Smartest thing Musk did was promote the torque/sports aspect of electric cars. You get a built-in customer interested in performance often willing to waste large amounts of money for bragging rights for a fraction of a second off the line.
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Remember these guys: "Tesla was founded in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning as Tesla Motor"

Me neither.

Smartest thing Musk did was promote the torque/sports aspect of electric cars. You get a built-in customer interested in performance often willing to waste large amounts of money for bragging rights for a fraction of a second off the line.
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Many of the early Tesla's were given or loaned to celebrities. Musk realized handing Leonardo DiCaprio a hundred-thousand-dollar car would give them millions in publicity.
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Possible inventions or improvements
-solar panel for the back of phones or tablet, or their cases. Maybe snaps on an off so you can replace easily
-Put it back bot. Push a button and it puts everything back in its place, or goes and gets it. This might be easer than at first seems. First you put the thing in it' place, put the robot claw gripping it. Then while you are wearing a tracking device it homes in and finds you. Now it has also the location of where it came from. Does simple roomba movements to avoid or go around anything new in the way or stops completely if it can't get back and notifies you,
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What the heck is this, and why would anyone put all that money there?

Quote:

When she and her husband sold the house last year, they stowed away the proceeds, $282,153.87, in what they thought of as a safe place — an account at the savings startup Yotta held at a real bank.

Morris, like thousands of other customers, was snared in the collapse of a behind-the-scenes fintech firm called Synapse and has been locked out of her account for six months as of November. She held out hope that her money was still secure. Then she learned how much Evolve Bank & Trust, the lender where her funds were supposed to be held, was prepared to return to her.

“We were informed last Monday that Evolve was only going to pay us $500 out of that $280,000,” Morris said during a court hearing last week, her voice wavering. “It’s just devastating.”

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What the heck is this, and why would anyone put all that money there?

Quote:

When she and her husband sold the house last year, they stowed away the proceeds, $282,153.87, in what they thought of as a safe place — an account at the savings startup Yotta held at a real bank.

Morris, like thousands of other customers, was snared in the collapse of a behind-the-scenes fintech firm called Synapse and has been locked out of her account for six months as of November. She held out hope that her money was still secure. Then she learned how much Evolve Bank & Trust, the lender where her funds were supposed to be held, was prepared to return to her.

“We were informed last Monday that Evolve was only going to pay us $500 out of that $280,000,” Morris said during a court hearing last week, her voice wavering. “It’s just devastating.”


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Companies are writing checks they can't possibly pay, and greedy investors are funding them. It will only get worse as deregulation kicks in.
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November 24th, 2024 at 6:44:34 PM permalink
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What the heck is this, and why would anyone put all that money there?

Quote:

When she and her husband sold the house last year, they stowed away the proceeds, $282,153.87, in what they thought of as a safe place — an account at the savings startup Yotta held at a real bank.

Morris, like thousands of other customers, was snared in the collapse of a behind-the-scenes fintech firm called Synapse and has been locked out of her account for six months as of November. She held out hope that her money was still secure. Then she learned how much Evolve Bank & Trust, the lender where her funds were supposed to be held, was prepared to return to her.

“We were informed last Monday that Evolve was only going to pay us $500 out of that $280,000,” Morris said during a court hearing last week, her voice wavering. “It’s just devastating.”


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What are you quoting from? I don't see the line referring us to the original WOV Forum post - so is this a quote from an outside source?
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Quote: rxwine

What the heck is this, and why would anyone put all that money there?

Quote:

When she and her husband sold the house last year, they stowed away the proceeds, $282,153.87, in what they thought of as a safe place — an account at the savings startup Yotta held at a real bank.

Morris, like thousands of other customers, was snared in the collapse of a behind-the-scenes fintech firm called Synapse and has been locked out of her account for six months as of November. She held out hope that her money was still secure. Then she learned how much Evolve Bank & Trust, the lender where her funds were supposed to be held, was prepared to return to her.

“We were informed last Monday that Evolve was only going to pay us $500 out of that $280,000,” Morris said during a court hearing last week, her voice wavering. “It’s just devastating.”


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What are you quoting from? I don't see the line referring us to the original WOV Forum post - so is this a quote from an outside source?
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Yes, outside source.
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December 4th, 2024 at 12:26:08 PM permalink
Question for you computer gurus. Can an online casino/website (not downloaded) see your sticky notes (Note anywhere https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/note-anywhere/bohahkiiknkelflnjjlipnaeapefmjbh) that you stick on their pages?

I always assumed they couldn't, however, I always wondered and recently somthing happened that made me very suspicious they could. Let's assume you allowed cookies.
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December 4th, 2024 at 1:52:31 PM permalink
It's unlikely they can directly see the contents of the extension, but they can definitely see what extensions you're running(1). Websites are also generally able to log keystrokes in an active window (and sometimes inactive, though that falls into the category of malicious behavior), which Note Anywhere may or may not override. Programs running on the system can often be extrapolated from known information, or if nothing else, act as a point of suspicious with copious alt-tabbing.

1. https://browserleaks.com/chrome has most of the major ones registered... also an interesting site, otherwise.
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December 4th, 2024 at 2:31:43 PM permalink
If it's browser-only, then I agree.
If the casino makes you install a snooping agent so that they can assure ToS/geofence compliance, then I wouldn't be surprised if they can snag a screenshot at will.
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