Miscellaneous Discussion Thread II

These old videos I enjoy and find educational. This one was for US WWII soldiers: how to behave in Britain. Presented by The Penguin.

Lessons like: do not flirt with the pub keeper's wife. Do not harass kilted Scots! Those I already knew.

But I did not know: if you buy drinks for British soldiers, do not buy them expensive stuff. Because they will feel obliged to buy similar for you, but US soldiers make quite a bit more than UK soldiers and they can't afford it. Also you may be invited to people's homes, and they will offer you food, but do not eat everything they offer because they can't afford it either. In a message that appeared to be directed towards soldiers from one particular part of the US, they said they do not have segregation in Britain so do not expect anyone to feel the same way about those matters as you do.

I like the way they expressed things in this era without melodrama. There are a lot of short films made in this style. Nobody sees a need to blame, judge or condemn, but instead things are expressed in terms of best practices. "This approach will help you get along with people, but doing that other thing, that could make people a little upset with you."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyYSBBE1DFw

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It's Brazil which is basically a third world suck hole, she can kiss her butt goodbye as far as rescue goes.

Let me guess, you have never even been to Brazil? Don't believe everything you see on Tiktok. There are nice areas of Brazil.
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Most nations have "nice areas." Brazil is loaded with slums. Brazil has historically been getting things together then has a crash that wipes it all out for a generation.
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I agree, I just hate when someone who has never been to a place complains about it. If you have been there share your experiences and that might be helpful to others, if you haven't been there leave it to those who have.
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I did a paper and presentation on Brazil's economic history for what turned out to be a near-graduate level poly-sci course in college. First, its economy would never diversify. One thing would do well and it would rely on that one thing. Then things overheated and changed and crash! I forget the details, but in 200 years or so they had 6 or so rises and falls. And the falls were not USA style post-WWII recessions. They was 1800s USA style or worse depressions. It is still happening just to a lesser extent.

Second problem is land. Brazil is like CA. Flat land near the coast that was spoken for long ago, then you get inland just a bit and it becomes unbuildable and unusable. So lots of people squeezing into the coastal areas. High rents mean people cannot afford to live. CA on steroids if you like.

South America in total has just never been able to get things together. Geopolitically it is not very important, it gets ignored.

When I was 12 or 13, I spent the summer on my uncle's farm in rural Minnesota. My cousin from Ireland flew into Chicago and was driven to my uncle's farm . He was there for two weeks, and we then drove to Long Island where he stayed for three days before flying home. Three years later, I'm in Ireland listening to him tell everyone about America, as his three weeks on a farm and in a car taught him everything about the country. I especially enjoyed his stories about California girls being easy.
His favorite thing about America was Nedicks orange soda, which didn't exist in Ireland

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Not sure how old it is is but we call it the pussy tree
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If you wanted, are you allowed to cut down the trees on your property?
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Yes, but with the exception of a few protected species.

I was curious when someone was going to notice she didn't fall all the way from Brazil into an Indonesian volcano.

Anyway, from a recent experience I have a new theory why even experienced hikers end up falling off various precipices.

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She’s dead.

Bob’s point about safety in Brazil is valid. I did go to Brazil a decade or so ago. Was aware of the risk, avoided ‘bad’ areas, and thoroughly enjoyed seeing Iguazu Falls. If my sole goal in life was to avoid risks I’d be like EB. But I am so happy for pretty much all of my travel experiences.
That being said, for those that can’t afford it, or don’t want the hassle, or don’t want the risks, Bob’s ‘travel while at home’ tactic is the next best thing.
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Soopoo, it sounds ike you have done al ot of travelling. Are there any countries that stand out to you that you would have no interest in retuning to? For me Jamaica and the Dominican Republic are two that stand out to me.

Vegas connection.

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Former health guru Susan Powter has become an Uber Eats driver in Las Vegas, Nevada, after losing her million-dollar fitness empire.

In the Nineties, Powter became a fitness icon with her infomercial Stop the Insanity!, where she shared her approach to healthy eating, exercise, and weight loss. Although she established a fitness program that earned millions, given the thousands of audiotapes and recipes it sold, she later lost her empire and declared bankruptcy in 1995.

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She’s dead.

Bob’s point about safety in Brazil is valid. I did go to Brazil a decade or so ago. Was aware of the risk, avoided ‘bad’ areas, and thoroughly enjoyed seeing Iguazu Falls. If my sole goal in life was to avoid risks I’d be like EB. But I am so happy for pretty much all of my travel experiences.
That being said, for those that can’t afford it, or don’t want the hassle, or don’t want the risks, Bob’s ‘travel while at home’ tactic is the next best thing.
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Soopoo, it sounds ike you have done al ot of travelling. Are there any countries that stand out to you that you would have no interest in retuning to? For me Jamaica and the Dominican Republic are two that stand out to me.
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I attended Reggae Sunsplash in 1981 in Jamaica, hitchhiked/bussed around the island and loved it. It seemed like every town had a section to avoid, but it was easy to do. We met many people on buses that invited us for dinner or gave us a place to camp. I went back in 1995 and the entire vibe had changed. I wouldn't recommend it, with the exception of the resorts.
When I lived in Puerto Rico, a number of people I knew had get aways in the DR, but I didn't like it.

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I did something today that I haven't done in nearly 30 years. I bought a used car.

2007 Toyota Corolla with 174,000 miles on it. I have never had a car with more than 50,000 miles on it so I know it is a gamble. My guess is that in one year it will still be below 175,000 miles.
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I have owned the old gal for over two weeks and have managed to put 8 miles on her without any disappointment yet. Hopefully $4,000 well spent.

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I did something today that I haven't done in nearly 30 years. I bought a used car.

2007 Toyota Corolla with 174,000 miles on it. I have never had a car with more than 50,000 miles on it so I know it is a gamble. My guess is that in one year it will still be below 175,000 miles.
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I have owned the old gal for over two weeks and have managed to put 8 miles on her without any disappointment yet. Hopefully $4,000 well spent.
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I would have paid $4,000 for that in a heartbeat. Probably last me the rest of my life. Because I'm well, 76.

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I was curious when someone was going to notice she didn't fall all the way from Brazil into an Indonesian volcano.

Anyway, from a recent experience I have a new theory why even experienced hikers end up falling off various precipices.

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They're trying to save their phone, camera or some other equipment when they slip I actually went down going the wrong direction trying to hang onto a camera. Trying to grab or hang onto something is just a natural spontaneous action but may be a very bad idea if you're close to a cliff.

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Didn't some people enter a volcano in Iceland and come out in Sicily?

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I did something today that I haven't done in nearly 30 years. I bought a used car.

2007 Toyota Corolla with 174,000 miles on it. I have never had a car with more than 50,000 miles on it so I know it is a gamble. My guess is that in one year it will still be below 175,000 miles.
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I have owned the old gal for over two weeks and have managed to put 8 miles on her without any disappointment yet. Hopefully $4,000 well spent.
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I would have paid $4,000 for that in a heartbeat. Probably last me the rest of my life. Because I'm well, 76.
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With the less than 1000 miles I expect to put on it each year it would definitely last me the rest of my life if I keep it that long.

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<snip>With the less than 1000 miles I expect to put on it each year it would definitely last me the rest of my life if I keep it that long.
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DRich,

That's axiomatic.

Dog Hand

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<snip>With the less than 1000 miles I expect to put on it each year it would definitely last me the rest of my life if I keep it that long.
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DRich,

That's axiomatic.

Dog Hand
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I am not so sure about that. It has 174,000 miles on it so there is no guarantee that it will last another 5,000 miles or that I will last 5 more years.

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I was curious when someone was going to notice she didn't fall all the way from Brazil into an Indonesian volcano.

Anyway, from a recent experience I have a new theory why even experienced hikers end up falling off various precipices.

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They're trying to save their phone, camera or some other equipment when they slip I actually went down going the wrong direction trying to hang onto a camera. Trying to grab or hang onto something is just a natural spontaneous action but may be a very bad idea if you're close to a cliff.

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Didn't some people enter a volcano in Iceland and come out in Sicily?
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I'm guessing "Journey to the Center of the Earth" (I didn't look it up,) Otherwise, I don't think that's possible.

Liars for Hire.

Martin Kulldorff is an esteemed scientist who was recently paid over $50,000 to be an expert witness in a lawsuit against the manufacturer of a vaccine for RSV. He testified it was unsafe and dangerous. He was recently appointed to the RFK Jrs vaccine council and headed the panel that just declared the vaccine safe and recommended it be given to every infant.

Fan banned from all pro baseball for heckling a player to the point of tears about his mother who died in a car accident.

Yeah, that's pretty low.

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She’s dead.

Bob’s point about safety in Brazil is valid. I did go to Brazil a decade or so ago. Was aware of the risk, avoided ‘bad’ areas, and thoroughly enjoyed seeing Iguazu Falls. If my sole goal in life was to avoid risks I’d be like EB. But I am so happy for pretty much all of my travel experiences.
That being said, for those that can’t afford it, or don’t want the hassle, or don’t want the risks, Bob’s ‘travel while at home’ tactic is the next best thing.
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Soopoo, it sounds ike you have done al ot of travelling. Are there any countries that stand out to you that you would have no interest in retuning to? For me Jamaica and the Dominican Republic are two that stand out to me.
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The only reason I went to the DR and Jamaica was for luxury resort/ weather reasons. Since I bought house in Florida I have no desire to go to a foreign country for just weather. Add Mexico to that list.

I’ve been to I think 70 countries? (Some Caribbean islands count as individual ‘’countries’). I don’t think I’d go back to any Muslim dominated country, like Egypt, Morocco. In reality, I will probably only go overseas to countries my wife brings up. She loves Paris and multiple Italian cities. So probably either France or Italy for next trip.

Helen Keller was born on this day in 1880. A disease soon after birth left her blind, deaf and dumb, yet she went on to be one of the most famous people of her generation, and an inspiration to millions.
She claimed beauty is not seen with the eyes, nor touched by hands, but is felt with the heart.

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Helen Keller was born on this day in 1880. A disease soon after birth left her blind, deaf and dumb, yet she went on to be one of the most famous people of her generation, and an inspiration to millions.
She claimed beauty is not seen with the eyes, nor touched by hands, but is felt with the heart.
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Some are critical of her later-in-life wacko political ideas, but I think it is more of a case of people with an agenda taking advantage of a vulnerable person

The play and movie "the Miracle Worker" heaps praise on the woman who took charge of her training/education when Keller was a child...Annie Sullivan, from Massachusetts, 1880s. It's hard to say that anyone since has pulled off since what she did with such a hard case

Keller was a bit of an enigma. She supported nonmainstream ideas like socialism and pacifism. Still, she was also a supporter of eugenics and thought some children would be better off being gently killed than have to struggle with a poor quality of life.
She was a co-founder of the ALCU and was one of the leading financial contributors to the organization that became the NAACP

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Helen Keller was born on this day in 1880. A disease soon after birth left her blind, deaf and dumb, yet she went on to be one of the most famous people of her generation, and an inspiration to millions.
She claimed beauty is not seen with the eyes, nor touched by hands, but is felt with the heart.
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Pinball hadn't been invented yet. What else did she have to do?

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Helen Keller was born on this day in 1880. A disease soon after birth left her blind, deaf and dumb, yet she went on to be one of the most famous people of her generation, and an inspiration to millions.
She claimed beauty is not seen with the eyes, nor touched by hands, but is felt with the heart.
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Pinball hadn't been invented yet. What else did she have to do?
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Anne Sullivans cousin, Kevin, is often credited with inventing pinball after observing HK running around the family arborum

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I played pinball in Ballamer (Baltimore) when I was very young - about 11 - didn't live there - we were visiting relatives

if you won or got to a certain level a guy came around and paid you in cash - not much but hey - any $ to a kid was great stuff

good ole Ballamer - they turned a kids game into gambling___________:)

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I played pinball in Ballamer (Baltimore) when I was very young - about 11 - didn't live there - we were visiting relatives

if you won or got to a certain level a guy came around and paid you in cash - not much but hey - any $ to a kid was great stuff

good ole Ballamer - they turned a kids game into gambling___________:)

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I remember playing pinball and getting paid for every free game earned. I think it was a dime back then to play.

I learned something new today that I am shocked that I did not know.

The first digital computer was invented in Iowa at the Iowa State College in Ames. The reason that I am shocked that I did not know that was I studied Computer Science at the University of Iowa and it never came up. At the time I was there it was ranked as the 9th best computer science program in the country. I did not get accepted to the topped ranked schools which I believe were MIT and Cal Tech back then. I did get accepted to the number three school which was U. of Illinois but their drinking age was 21 and it was only 19 in Iowa. I always had my priorities straight.

Pinball was quasi-illegal in NYC in the 1970s. It had long been banned but in the early 1970s, a few bars had them. A bar in Queens got busted, and rather than pay the small fine, they fought it. The City claimed pinball was a game of chance but a hired expert demonstrated enough skill that the governing body reclassified it.
You could win free balls, but not free games, and most bars were limited to four machines —one of which was almost always a jukebox, with the second being a pool table and the third was a cigarette machine.. These were anti-money laundering rules, so a bar couldn't sell $10,000 in drugs and claim it was machine-generated revenue. As most machine vendors were involved in illegal activities, this also limited their sources of income.

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You could win free balls, but not free games, and most bars were limited to four machines —one of which was almost always a jukebox, with the second being a pool table and the third was a cigarette machine.. These were anti-money laundering rules, so a bar couldn't sell $10,000 in drugs and claim it was machine-generated revenue. As most machine vendors were involved in illegal activities, this also limited their sources of income.
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A friend of mine had a bar in Pittsburgh that had two rudimentary poker machines in the 1980's. He said those two machines brought in more revenue than the bar so he had to account for that money under the table. Those were the days where the local beat cop got to drink for free.

Broadway Poker put a generation of bar owners' kids through college. When it first appeared, most bars had it set for Kings or higher, with a 30% payout. Eventually, Jacks or better and 50% payouts became the norm. Initially, you could purchase your own machines, but it soon evolved into routes and 50-50 splits.
If you were opening a new location with a proven track record, you could receive a $30,000 advance for installing the machines and pay it off within a few months.

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Atlanta drivers have been losing thousands to ‘water boys’

Buying a bottle of water while in traffic is not what it used to be.

It’s seems to be scam when people pay with their phone.

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Atlanta drivers have been losing thousands to ‘water boys’

Buying a bottle of water while in traffic is not what it used to be.

It’s seems to be scam when people pay with their phone.
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Have we reached the point where people need to be told not to hand their phones to strangers at an intersection?

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Atlanta drivers have been losing thousands to ‘water boys’

Buying a bottle of water while in traffic is not what it used to be.

It’s seems to be scam when people pay with their phone.
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Have we reached the point where people need to be told not to hand their phones to strangers at an intersection?
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If I go to pay something with my phone it always asks me to confirm the amount. Do all of them not do that? If people are too stupid to read that and just agree, I am glad they are getting ripped off.

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You could win free balls, but not free games, and most bars were limited to four machines —one of which was almost always a jukebox, with the second being a pool table and the third was a cigarette machine.. These were anti-money laundering rules, so a bar couldn't sell $10,000 in drugs and claim it was machine-generated revenue. As most machine vendors were involved in illegal activities, this also limited their sources of income.
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A friend of mine had a bar in Pittsburgh that had two rudimentary poker machines in the 1980's. He said those two machines brought in more revenue than the bar so he had to account for that money under the table. Those were the days where the local beat cop got to drink for free.
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Ms Pac-Man and Space Invaders were a huge money maker in my bar, way more money than the pinball machines they replaced. Pool table and jukebox were good but Pac-Man and Space Invaders were almost always busy. I used to sell quarters by the $10 roll. These were the original computer games there were no home computers yet in 1980.

It's almost 11:30 at night, and it is 93 outside. I just went for a walk and it was like sucking in hot air. The monsoons can't get here soon enough.
I keep my AC at 82 degrees, and it only runs for a few minutes a day, most weeks. It's been going almost non-stop all day.

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It's almost 11:30 at night, and it is 93 outside. I just went for a walk and it was like sucking in hot air. The monsoons can't get here soon enough.
I keep my AC at 82 degrees, and it only runs for a few minutes a day, most weeks. It's been going almost non-stop all day.
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Surely you are not expecting sympathy from Vegas!

I've experienced a few 100-at-midnight nights since coming here and being a New Englander it took some getting used to, but it didn't take that long to become fully acclimated. A big part of the dread and misery of extreme weather is a subconscious fear it is going to get worse. You're preparing to protect yourself and that causes stress. But once you're walking around in the extreme heat and you say "It's really hot, but I'm doing fine and it doesn't get any hotter here so nothing bad is going to happen" that type of stress goes away and you feel better.

Now I get a little annoyed that they shut down pools around here when it's under 90.

It's been dropping down to the 70s at night, and I occasionally will nap on my porch in my hammock, but not this week.

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I keep my AC at 82 degrees, and it only runs for a few minutes a day, most weeks. It's been going almost non-stop all day.
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Wow, that is even too warm for me and I am aways cold. I think 78 is the perfect house temperature. My wife keeps ours set at 75 and I freeze.

I grew up without AC and didn't really use it much in NY. Our beach house was set up so it had a nice breeze most of the time, just by opening the front and back doors.
I have two four-foot tower fans that I can load with ice cubes. They do a remarkable job for an hour or two.

I have a flight next week scheduled on a Boeing 717. I don't remember the last time I was on a 717 but I would guess it was at least 20 years ago.

An India flight returned to land because of contaminated fuel light. That's supposed to be really rare. Could be the cause of that big crash there.

Watering down the fuel? Or what?

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An India flight returned to land because of contaminated fuel light. That's supposed to be really rare. Could be the cause of that big crash there.

Watering down the fuel? Or what?
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It is definitely possible but highly unlikely. Generally a contaminated fuel source would affect many of the flights from that airport. Most likely the most recent Air India flight had a faulty sensor as there was no reported engine degradation. Also, on the earlier flight it is unlikely that contaminated fuel would cause both engines to fail at the same time. It is kind of strange that the FDR and CVR data has not been released by now.

Today is America's real birthday.
It was on July 2nd, 1776, that the 2nd Continental Congress voted for Independence. soon after, John Adams wrote that Americans of future generations will light bonfires to celebrate July 2nd.
On July 4th, Thomas Jefferson sat down to write the actual Declaration, but it wasn't signed that day, and the last signature wasn't added until mid-August. News traveled slowly in those days, and most people first heard of Independence when a copy of the Declaration of Independence, dated July 4th, arrived. In the early days of the Republic, both July 2nd and July 4th were celebrated, but there were no official holidays. When both Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died on the 50th Anniversary of July 4th, it became a bigger holiday, and when President Lincoln announced the two Union victories at Gettysburg and Vicksburg on July 4th, 1863, he declared it a day of celebration, and July 2nd faded into obscurity.

The only solution is to declare a three day holiday so be patriotic and celebrate early and often.

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An India flight returned to land because of contaminated fuel light. That's supposed to be really rare. Could be the cause of that big crash there.

Watering down the fuel? Or what?
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It is definitely possible but highly unlikely. Generally a contaminated fuel source would affect many of the flights from that airport. Most likely the most recent Air India flight had a faulty sensor as there was no reported engine degradation. Also, on the earlier flight it is unlikely that contaminated fuel would cause both engines to fail at the same time. It is kind of strange that the FDR and CVR data has not been released by now.
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Maybe it’s like the coffee I sometimes get. All the sludge was at the bottom of the last of the tank.

Also wondering how many different fuel trucks or tanks are used at an airport. Could be just from one of many.

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The only solution is to declare a three day holiday so be patriotic and celebrate early and often.
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Revive Friendship Week with Canada and take 1st to 4th off.

July 3rd, 1863, Pickett's Charge

In June of 1863, Robert E Lee took his Army of Northern Virginia into Pennsylvania. He was coming off two sensational victories in Virginia, and his army was at its greatest strength, almost 80,000 men.
Lee didn't seem to have much of a plan when he went north He could have threatened DC, or Baltimore or even Philadelphia but instead he wandered around cental Pennsylvania, accomplishing little.
On June 30th, he discovered that the Union Army was much closer than expected, and he ordered his scattered army to join him in the hamlet of Gettysburg. This small town sat at the intersection of several major roads.
Lee had won many defensive battles, but had just lost his right-hand man, Stonewall Jackson, and he had several new people in vital command areas.
For two days, the Rebel Army battered the Union forces, driving them into a defensive position that resembled a fishhook.
After unsuccessful attacks on the Union left and right, Lee decided a straight attack right at the middle of the line would break the army.
He envisioned splitting the Union lines in half, and having his calvary sweep in from the rear, dealing a deathblow to the Army of the Potomac
After two days of fighting, many of Lee's divisions were fought out, but George Pickett's division had only arrived the night before and was fresh Lee assigned two battered divisions to also join in the attack All together, between 12,000 and 15,000 Rebel troops would attack, across a mile wide field defended by almost 100 cannon and 10,000 mostly fresh troops.
After an hour-long artillery duel, Pickett's infantry set off, marching towards two tall trees in the center of the line. They were hit by cannon fire as soon as they set out, as well as fire from Union snipers
As the unsupported Rebels advanced, Union troops were able to flank them, so they were soon taking fire from three sides. The attack turned into a slaughter, and only a handful of Southern forces managed to breach the Union lines and were almost immediately killed or captured. There were tremendous acts of courage on both sides, but the attack became a rout, with only about a third of the attackers unscathed
Lee had used up almost all his ammunition in the three-day battle and was forced to retreat. Just about the only thing his invasion of Pennsylvania accomplished was to lose a third of his army, men who the South could no longer replace.
After Gettysburg, the war turned into one of attrition when US Grant decided to destroy Lee's army rather than capture the Rebel capital
The war would drag on for another 18 months, but after the Union's victory at Gettysburg on July 3rd, it was never in doubt.
At Gettysburg, Lee had 87,000 men vs 110,000 for the Union. In April 1865, Grant could field $130,000 men while Lee had fewer than 20,000.

I have a question for Bill Ryan. Why do you start so many threads that nobody responds to and go nowhere. You started 286 threads and I just went and counted back 6 years and 108 of them got zero to five posts. An incredible number of them got zero posts. When's it going to dawn on you to just search for a thread that's similar to what you want to say instead of starting a new thread every time you get a wild thought.

Another firework's factory explosion. Only takes one idiot.

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I have a question for Bill Ryan. Why do you start so many threads that nobody responds to and go nowhere. You started 286 threads and I just went and counted back 6 years and 108 of them got zero to five posts. An incredible number of them got zero posts. When's it going to dawn on you to just search for a thread that's similar to what you want to say instead of starting a new thread every time you get a wild thought.
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Sine billryan claims to have you blocked, I'll make your comment visible to him by quoting it.

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I have a question for Bill Ryan. Why do you start so many threads that nobody responds to and go nowhere. You started 286 threads and I just went and counted back 6 years and 108 of them got zero to five posts. An incredible number of them got zero posts. When's it going to dawn on you to just search for a thread that's similar to what you want to say instead of starting a new thread every time you get a wild thought.
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Sine billryan claims to have you blocked, I'll make your comment visible to him by quoting it.
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He doesn't have me blocked, he couldn't stand it not being able to read my posts.

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America's wealthiest dudes - approximate net worth:

Elon Musk - $ 409.8 Billion

Mark Zuckerberg - $ 253.1 Billion

Jeff Bezos - $ 237 Billion

unreal

Musk will prolly be America's first Trillionaire in just a few years

and yes, he is a U.S. citizen - he naturalized in 2002

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