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March 9th, 2024 at 3:01:58 PM permalink
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Been on BP meds about 10 years now. Doc says it is normal most visits. Maybe I should skip a day a week or so.

I can see them telling me I need a bypass one day. Not sure if I would do it or not.
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I may have consented under duress.
A few days of breathing through a hose and eating Sodexo food tends to mess with my decision making process.

Half of my grandparents had bypass surgery. It wasn't exactly unexpected.
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You rather Aramark??

For me it is more I would rather go fast and painless than live in decay for years even if it means going younger. The hospital asked if I knew what I was saying when I said do not revive. They said "you are only 52!" But i am resigned when my number is up it is up. Like Roddy Piper, I do not expect to make 70.
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No experience with Aramark Patient Nutrition.
A few places had lunchrooms catered by Aramark; meh, I've had worse.

As near as I can tell, institutions switch to Sodexo because the bid is lower, not because the quality is higher.

As for the decay... I'm (subjectively) feeling 10 years younger. Less fatigue. My hair seems to be regrowing with less grey.

The kids may have lobbied that they weren't ready for me to die yet, and that they would rather murder me (when the time comes) than have me succumb to some minor condition easily rectified by a chestcracker surgery. (sigh) The things our little girls talk us into...
May the cards fall in your favor.
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March 9th, 2024 at 3:22:40 PM permalink
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Been on BP meds about 10 years now. Doc says it is normal most visits. Maybe I should skip a day a week or so.

I can see them telling me I need a bypass one day. Not sure if I would do it or not.
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I may have consented under duress.
A few days of breathing through a hose and eating Sodexo food tends to mess with my decision making process.

Half of my grandparents had bypass surgery. It wasn't exactly unexpected.
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You rather Aramark??

For me it is more I would rather go fast and painless than live in decay for years even if it means going younger. The hospital asked if I knew what I was saying when I said do not revive. They said "you are only 52!" But i am resigned when my number is up it is up. Like Roddy Piper, I do not expect to make 70.
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No experience with Aramark Patient Nutrition.
A few places had lunchrooms catered by Aramark; meh, I've had worse.

As near as I can tell, institutions switch to Sodexo because the bid is lower, not because the quality is higher.

As for the decay... I'm (subjectively) feeling 10 years younger. Less fatigue. My hair seems to be regrowing with less grey.

The kids may have lobbied that they weren't ready for me to die yet, and that they would rather murder me (when the time comes) than have me succumb to some minor condition easily rectified by a chestcracker surgery. (sigh) The things our little girls talk us into...
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I was in the hospital a few weeks in 2022. Not a good time. The first week or so I could not touch food. They were getting me to drink Ensure, which I barely wanted to touch. But eventually I could eat. And believe it or not the food was very good. They even had a create your own omelette option, which I only did once or twice as the other stuff was good. That food and watching CNBC business news all day made things bearable. The nurses got a kick out of me watching that all the time. I am probably the only person in history that sat in ICU explaining to the nurse on duty how Bitcoin works. She actually seemed interested in that.

As to Aramark/SodexHo my claim to fame is I worked at a place that went SodexHo to Aramark then the next year the place went from Aramark to SodexHo. Or maybe the other way around, my work life is such a blur after 2005. But I did actually see them switch both to each other at 2 different employers.
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March 9th, 2024 at 3:31:26 PM permalink
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You ‘ignore my heart stuff’ guys are so naive! It’s not like most people die instantaneously upon having your first heart attack. Some do, but not the majority. More likely you have some heart muscle damage/death and become impaired. Sometimes severely. Most people with coronary artery disease can be treated medically for a while, then angioplasty/stents before the big operation becomes necessary.

And of course, if you are offered the big operation (CABG), of course investigate risks/benefits/alternatives. My father in law just passed away mid 80’s. Lived 25 years after his CABG. It certainly gave him a decade or two of good living.
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I'd rather go fast and painless over getting 10 years of painful living. People think there is something wrong with me because I say I will take SS benefits early as I doubt I live long enough to make waiting pay off I have always felt 10-15 years older than I am at the time. To me this way of thinking is no different than knowing your engine or transmission is not going to make another 30000 miles.

On the macro scale I only see collapse in the world around me getting worse and worse. In the words of Nicky Santoro in "Casino" why hang around for that?
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March 9th, 2024 at 3:34:49 PM permalink
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Been on BP meds about 10 years now. Doc says it is normal most visits. Maybe I should skip a day a week or so.

I can see them telling me I need a bypass one day. Not sure if I would do it or not.
link to original post



I may have consented under duress.
A few days of breathing through a hose and eating Sodexo food tends to mess with my decision making process.

Half of my grandparents had bypass surgery. It wasn't exactly unexpected.
link to original post



You rather Aramark??

For me it is more I would rather go fast and painless than live in decay for years even if it means going younger. The hospital asked if I knew what I was saying when I said do not revive. They said "you are only 52!" But i am resigned when my number is up it is up. Like Roddy Piper, I do not expect to make 70.
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No experience with Aramark Patient Nutrition.
A few places had lunchrooms catered by Aramark; meh, I've had worse.

As near as I can tell, institutions switch to Sodexo because the bid is lower, not because the quality is higher.

As for the decay... I'm (subjectively) feeling 10 years younger. Less fatigue. My hair seems to be regrowing with less grey.

The kids may have lobbied that they weren't ready for me to die yet, and that they would rather murder me (when the time comes) than have me succumb to some minor condition easily rectified by a chestcracker surgery. (sigh) The things our little girls talk us into...
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I was in the hospital a few weeks in 2022. Not a good time. The first week or so I could not touch food. They were getting me to drink Ensure, which I barely wanted to touch. But eventually I could eat. And believe it or not the food was very good. They even had a create your own omelette option, which I only did once or twice as the other stuff was good. That food and watching CNBC business news all day made things bearable. The nurses got a kick out of me watching that all the time. I am probably the only person in history that sat in ICU explaining to the nurse on duty how Bitcoin works. She actually seemed interested in that.

As to Aramark/SodexHo my claim to fame is I worked at a place that went SodexHo to Aramark then the next year the place went from Aramark to SodexHo. Or maybe the other way around, my work life is such a blur after 2005. But I did actually see them switch both to each other at 2 different employers.
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I found the omelettes to be unacceptable.
All of the meats were awful.
This left me with rice (which they screwed up - prepared "American style" instead of "Asian style" - Dangit, I want it in a bowl, slightly sticky, not scattered on a plate and tossed with "butter*" so it's impossible to pick up) and steamed vegetables. I'd force myself to eat some scrambled eggs now and again.

I'm almost sure there was a bidding war. Surprised Canteen didn't try to elbow in.

I can believe it's not butter.
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March 9th, 2024 at 3:51:37 PM permalink
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Been on BP meds about 10 years now. Doc says it is normal most visits. Maybe I should skip a day a week or so.

I can see them telling me I need a bypass one day. Not sure if I would do it or not.
link to original post



I may have consented under duress.
A few days of breathing through a hose and eating Sodexo food tends to mess with my decision making process.

Half of my grandparents had bypass surgery. It wasn't exactly unexpected.
link to original post



You rather Aramark??

For me it is more I would rather go fast and painless than live in decay for years even if it means going younger. The hospital asked if I knew what I was saying when I said do not revive. They said "you are only 52!" But i am resigned when my number is up it is up. Like Roddy Piper, I do not expect to make 70.
link to original post



No experience with Aramark Patient Nutrition.
A few places had lunchrooms catered by Aramark; meh, I've had worse.

As near as I can tell, institutions switch to Sodexo because the bid is lower, not because the quality is higher.

As for the decay... I'm (subjectively) feeling 10 years younger. Less fatigue. My hair seems to be regrowing with less grey.

The kids may have lobbied that they weren't ready for me to die yet, and that they would rather murder me (when the time comes) than have me succumb to some minor condition easily rectified by a chestcracker surgery. (sigh) The things our little girls talk us into...
link to original post



I was in the hospital a few weeks in 2022. Not a good time. The first week or so I could not touch food. They were getting me to drink Ensure, which I barely wanted to touch. But eventually I could eat. And believe it or not the food was very good. They even had a create your own omelette option, which I only did once or twice as the other stuff was good. That food and watching CNBC business news all day made things bearable. The nurses got a kick out of me watching that all the time. I am probably the only person in history that sat in ICU explaining to the nurse on duty how Bitcoin works. She actually seemed interested in that.

As to Aramark/SodexHo my claim to fame is I worked at a place that went SodexHo to Aramark then the next year the place went from Aramark to SodexHo. Or maybe the other way around, my work life is such a blur after 2005. But I did actually see them switch both to each other at 2 different employers.
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I found the omelettes to be unacceptable.
All of the meats were awful.
This left me with rice (which they screwed up - prepared "American style" instead of "Asian style" - Dangit, I want it in a bowl, slightly sticky, not scattered on a plate and tossed with "butter*" so it's impossible to pick up) and steamed vegetables. I'd force myself to eat some scrambled eggs now and again.

I'm almost sure there was a bidding war. Surprised Canteen didn't try to elbow in.

I can believe it's not butter.

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Potentially I was lucky. I was in two different hospitals three weeks in one out three or so days then back to another. Well, that part not lucky. Just the food. I think they had the same vendor as the menus were so alike. But seriously, it had to be better than what you get at Circus! Circus!

One weird thing was the ice cream. Some days at first it was all I could stomach. It was that institutional vanilla in the little cups with a real strong vanilla taste. I went looking for it as I recovered outside. I mean, not the best ice cream ever by far but at the tine hit a weird spot. One day it was *all* I got as I was on the after-midnight-fast for some procedure which was supposed to be in the morning but got put off until like 6 PM. So I get back around 8 and ask about food. Ice cream was all there was. I talked them into getting me two cups. No wonder I lost so much weight in there.
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March 9th, 2024 at 4:23:41 PM permalink
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Potentially I was lucky. I was in two different hospitals three weeks in one out three or so days then back to another. Well, that part not lucky. Just the food. I think they had the same vendor as the menus were so alike. But seriously, it had to be better than what you get at Circus! Circus!

One weird thing was the ice cream. Some days at first it was all I could stomach. It was that institutional vanilla in the little cups with a real strong vanilla taste. I went looking for it as I recovered outside. I mean, not the best ice cream ever by far but at the tine hit a weird spot. One day it was *all* I got as I was on the after-midnight-fast for some procedure which was supposed to be in the morning but got put off until like 6 PM. So I get back around 8 and ask about food. Ice cream was all there was. I talked them into getting me two cups. No wonder I lost so much weight in there.
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Back when I worked in healthcare foodservice (teenage years, long ago), the partly melted artificially flavored strawberry ice cream was a favorite. This was long enough ago that the kitchen was NOT run by Sodexo, Aramark, or one of the big players.

I know we ALWAYS used styrofoam cup ice cream, because it kept the product at a suitable temperature as it travelled from kitchen to wherever in one of those big tray carts. You can get plastic or paper cup singles at most grocery stores, but it doesn't taste the same. I'll try to minimize speculation about styrofoam lofting agent outgassing being a critical flavor component.

You might have to check with GFS to see if they have it. I know GFS has retail outlets for foodservice frozen goods, that's why I suggest. I hear Sysco has recently started some kind of stock up events, but no experience.
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March 9th, 2024 at 5:12:59 PM permalink
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Potentially I was lucky. I was in two different hospitals three weeks in one out three or so days then back to another. Well, that part not lucky. Just the food. I think they had the same vendor as the menus were so alike. But seriously, it had to be better than what you get at Circus! Circus!

One weird thing was the ice cream. Some days at first it was all I could stomach. It was that institutional vanilla in the little cups with a real strong vanilla taste. I went looking for it as I recovered outside. I mean, not the best ice cream ever by far but at the tine hit a weird spot. One day it was *all* I got as I was on the after-midnight-fast for some procedure which was supposed to be in the morning but got put off until like 6 PM. So I get back around 8 and ask about food. Ice cream was all there was. I talked them into getting me two cups. No wonder I lost so much weight in there.
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Back when I worked in healthcare foodservice (teenage years, long ago), the partly melted artificially flavored strawberry ice cream was a favorite. This was long enough ago that the kitchen was NOT run by Sodexo, Aramark, or one of the big players.

I know we ALWAYS used styrofoam cup ice cream, because it kept the product at a suitable temperature as it travelled from kitchen to wherever in one of those big tray carts. You can get plastic or paper cup singles at most grocery stores, but it doesn't taste the same. I'll try to minimize speculation about styrofoam lofting agent outgassing being a critical flavor component.

You might have to check with GFS to see if they have it. I know GFS has retail outlets for foodservice frozen goods, that's why I suggest. I hear Sysco has recently started some kind of stock up events, but no experience.
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You are right on these counts. I tried what they had at WMT but it was not quite the same. Maybe I will look at GFS. Better way to do it because if I come as close to death as I did last time I will probably stay there. They tell me I was close.
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March 9th, 2024 at 5:52:08 PM permalink
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Potentially I was lucky. I was in two different hospitals three weeks in one out three or so days then back to another. Well, that part not lucky. Just the food. I think they had the same vendor as the menus were so alike. But seriously, it had to be better than what you get at Circus! Circus!

One weird thing was the ice cream. Some days at first it was all I could stomach. It was that institutional vanilla in the little cups with a real strong vanilla taste. I went looking for it as I recovered outside. I mean, not the best ice cream ever by far but at the tine hit a weird spot. One day it was *all* I got as I was on the after-midnight-fast for some procedure which was supposed to be in the morning but got put off until like 6 PM. So I get back around 8 and ask about food. Ice cream was all there was. I talked them into getting me two cups. No wonder I lost so much weight in there.
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Back when I worked in healthcare foodservice (teenage years, long ago), the partly melted artificially flavored strawberry ice cream was a favorite. This was long enough ago that the kitchen was NOT run by Sodexo, Aramark, or one of the big players.

I know we ALWAYS used styrofoam cup ice cream, because it kept the product at a suitable temperature as it travelled from kitchen to wherever in one of those big tray carts. You can get plastic or paper cup singles at most grocery stores, but it doesn't taste the same. I'll try to minimize speculation about styrofoam lofting agent outgassing being a critical flavor component.

You might have to check with GFS to see if they have it. I know GFS has retail outlets for foodservice frozen goods, that's why I suggest. I hear Sysco has recently started some kind of stock up events, but no experience.
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You are right on these counts. I tried what they had at WMT but it was not quite the same. Maybe I will look at GFS. Better way to do it because if I come as close to death as I did last time I will probably stay there. They tell me I was close.
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Glad you pulled through.
And hey, if your hankering gets desperate, you may be able to get a meeting with the hospital foodservice manager. I wouldn't be surprised if you could buy a case through the cafeteria side, somehow.
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March 10th, 2024 at 11:18:02 AM permalink
San Francisco allows driverless robotaxis on their roads.

"Though Waymo and Cruise cars have been cruising the city’s streets for years, each company currently runs no more than 300 robotaxis at a time"

'Waymo robotaxi goes up in flames in Chinatown after crowd attacks vehicle'
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Too bad they cannot be programmed to run down all the homeless beggars / fentanyl junkies.

Yeah, as if they're worth saving..

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March 10th, 2024 at 1:50:15 PM permalink
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San Francisco allows driverless robotaxis on their roads.

"Though Waymo and Cruise cars have been cruising the city’s streets for years, each company currently runs no more than 300 robotaxis at a time"

'Waymo robotaxi goes up in flames in Chinatown after crowd attacks vehicle'
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As it they do not have enough problems there already.
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March 15th, 2024 at 1:54:18 PM permalink
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I really want to hear about jjjoooggg's new diet, though.. even before it's concluded to work.
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It has only been a week, so I can't tell how well the diet is.

Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. This is not medical advice.

I asked my doctor the idea to use diet and supplements.
Doctor set reading goal before I can begin removing meds one by one.

Diet: low sodium, low fat, low cholesterol, low calcium, low phosphorus.

Avoid most seafoods has sodium tripolyphosphate (form of salt banned in Europe used to retain water)
Avoid raw or cooked vegetable oil has saturated and trans fat. Heating oil creates trans fat.
Avoid butter and lard.
Avoid dairy, milk, cheese has calcium (calcium is in artery plaque)
Avoid dark colas has phosphorus
Avoid ramen is high fat
Avoid almost all restaurant food. Even simple restaurant veggies are high in fat and calcium.
Avoid salad dressing. Unless is a fat free calcium free dressing.
Avoid frozen and canned foods high in fat and sodium.
Avoid Nuts are high in fat.

The list is not bad as one thinks. I've seen a high blood pressure diet with almost everything banned.

Okay foods:
not a complete list.
Spaghetti / red marinara sauce (Sardinia Italy among oldest living in the world)
Jasmine or Basmati rice / Dash (salt substitute) / crushed red pepper
Lean BBQ meat except remove fat and skin
Clear cola is a diuretic.
Coffee no cream is a diuretic.
Fruits
Veggies
Grains

From what I read, artery plaque is irreversible. If the diet works, a drawback is hyper sensitivity to non diet foods is still there. IDK yet, if I cheat one meal, how bad it will be. Waiting to see when my improvement plateaus.

Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. Supplement list is not advice. Supplements may have side effects and interfere with medications.

Supplements:
5 x 99 mg Potassium CITRATE is diuretic / prevents gout and kidney stones
75% dose - SuperSmart Potassium Bicarbonate capsules or equivalent brand
Nitric oxide containing L arginine expands arteries
Nattokinase thins blood
Vitamin K2 D3 reduces calcium plaque
Vitamin E thins blood
Red yeast rice reduces cholesterol
Burdock Root is diuretic and detox
2,000 mg fish oil (separately or with food).

A friend's uncle's doctor credited his good blood numbers and long life with obesity partly due to donating blood.

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In case you still drink any soda, there’s at least two brands of root beer without phosphorous.
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Good luck.

Fortunately, spaghetti and jasmine rice are great.
Ramen (well, instant ramen) makes sense, as the noodles are deep fried at the factory to dry them. You might be able to finagle frozen noodles, but with the salty broth likely forbidden... why?

Veggies & fruits are always great.

One of the first things I did during my little health adventure was to cut down the number of meals I was eating. I'm not saying OMAD or 2MAD will work for you, but it may be worth considering.

I have another family member currently going through cardiovascular problems. The doctors are convinced that going vegetarian would have things straightened out in 6 months; he told them where they could file that suggestion.
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March 15th, 2024 at 2:51:56 PM permalink
I removed asian chili sauce. Too much sodium.
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Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. This is not medical advice.

Side effect of artery plaque is water retention. Body falsely believes it is dehydrated due to poor blood flow.

Sauna and hot tub dehydrates body and widens blood vessels.
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March 16th, 2024 at 6:55:53 AM permalink
I have been watching classic concentration while working out lately. One of the cars they are giving away is a yugo. Another prize was landmark hotel and casino package. Yugos are terrible cars. Never heard of landmark hotel and casino in Las Vegas. These shows are from 1987 host Alex trebek
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I have another family member currently going through cardiovascular problems. The doctors are convinced that going vegetarian would have things straightened out in 6 months; he told them where they could file that suggestion.
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Plan B is Autophagy: calorie fasting.

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March 16th, 2024 at 7:47:07 AM permalink
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I have been watching classic concentration while working out lately. One of the cars they are giving away is a yugo. Another prize was landmark hotel and casino package. Yugos are terrible cars. Never heard of landmark hotel and casino in Las Vegas. These shows are from 1987 host Alex trebek
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Iirc Yugo came here in 1986. Like any cheapo car a lot of interest at first. I wonder what a perfect preserved one would go for? Parts probably do not exist anymore.
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March 16th, 2024 at 7:58:46 AM permalink
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I really want to hear about jjjoooggg's new diet, though.. even before it's concluded to work.
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It has only been a week, so I can't tell how well the diet is.

Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. This is not medical advice.

I asked my doctor the idea to use diet and supplements.
Doctor set reading goal before I can begin removing meds one by one.

Diet: low sodium, low fat, low cholesterol, low calcium, low phosphorus.

Avoid most seafoods has sodium tripolyphosphate (form of salt banned in Europe used to retain water)
Avoid raw or cooked vegetable oil has saturated and trans fat. Heating oil creates trans fat.
Avoid butter and lard.
Avoid dairy, milk, cheese has calcium (calcium is in artery plaque)
Avoid dark colas has phosphorus
Avoid ramen is high fat
Avoid almost all restaurant food. Even simple restaurant veggies are high in fat and calcium.
Avoid salad dressing. Unless is a fat free calcium free dressing.
Avoid frozen and canned foods high in fat and sodium.
Avoid Nuts are high in fat.

The list is not bad as one thinks. I've seen a high blood pressure diet with almost everything banned.

Okay foods:
not a complete list.
Spaghetti / red marinara sauce (Sardinia Italy among oldest living in the world)
Jasmine or Basmati rice / Dash (salt substitute) / crushed red pepper
Lean BBQ meat except remove fat and skin
Clear cola is a diuretic.
Coffee no cream is a diuretic.
Fruits
Veggies
Grains

From what I read, artery plaque is irreversible. If the diet works, a drawback is hyper sensitivity to non diet foods is still there. IDK yet, if I cheat one meal, how bad it will be. Waiting to see when my improvement plateaus.

Disclaimer: I am not a medical doctor. Supplement list is not advice. Supplements may have side effects and interfere with medications.

Supplements:
5 x 99 mg Potassium CITRATE is diuretic / prevents gout and kidney stones
75% dose - SuperSmart Potassium Bicarbonate capsules or equivalent brand
Nitric oxide containing L arginine expands arteries
Nattokinase thins blood
Vitamin K2 D3 reduces calcium plaque
Vitamin E thins blood
Red yeast rice reduces cholesterol
Burdock Root is diuretic and detox
2,000 mg fish oil (separately or with food).

A friend's uncle's doctor credited his good blood numbers and long life with obesity partly due to donating blood.


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99% of those born between 1930 and 1946 (worldwide) are now dead. If you were born in this time span, you are one of the rare surviving one percenters of this special group. Their ages range is between 77 and 93 years old, a 16-year age span.

I am one of those 1%'ers. I eat and drink pretty much all of the above. My last recorded BP was 122/68. I do take BP meds. At my current age I do have some health issues: Type 2 diabetes and stage 4 kidney failure, however, I am extremely active and my lifestyle is unimpaired.

There are two secrets to my "success":

1. The fact that I am very active physically.
2. I picked the right parents.

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March 16th, 2024 at 8:21:29 AM permalink
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99% of those born between 1930 and 1946 (worldwide) are now dead.
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Source?

Because although there is one source that does state what you claim, its source is merely "Google it," and another source states "More than 99% of you are either retired or deceased" which when you add in the "retired" category makes the claim rather meaningless.


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99% of those born between 1930 and 1946 (worldwide) are now dead. If you were born in this time span, you are one of the rare surviving one percenters of this special group. Their ages range is between 77 and 93 years old, a 16-year age span.

I am one of those 1%'ers. I eat and drink pretty much all of the above. My last recorded BP was 122/68. I do take BP meds. At my current age I do have some health issues: Type 2 diabetes and stage 4 kidney failure, however, I am extremely active and my lifestyle is unimpaired.

There are two secrets to my "success":

1. The fact that I am very active physically.
2. I picked the right parents.

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I can't find online now:
An attribute of centenarians (age 100+) is jogging. Not just life span. Quality of life: memory, able to walk.

I was an avid jogger / bicyclist / triathlete for 17 years. Quit exercise for past 9 years due to work load. I'm borderline obese.

My past bicycle partner placed in a state race. Now, he is severely obese. Same with a track runner friend who did 2 miles in the nines.

There were a couple years, I just walk up a treadmill incline at aerobic heart rate (220 minus Age X 70%). Which is an easy task. I still don't have time.
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I don’t think there’s a type of doctor in the world who trash talks their patients more than dentists is there? Fire and brimstone and allergies
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I don’t think there’s a type of doctor in the world who trash talks their patients more than dentists is there? Fire and brimstone and allergies
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Wifey is a dentist. There is certainly a subset of patients she ‘trash talked’. Decades of neglect and patients expect magic cure…. they deserve trash talk!
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Aren't dentists known also to be frugal to the max? I am using that word frugal although the "trash talk" about them uses a different term.
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I don’t think there’s a type of doctor in the world who trash talks their patients more than dentists is there? Fire and brimstone and allergies
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Wifey is a dentist. There is certainly a subset of patients she ‘trash talked’. Decades of neglect and patients expect magic cure…. they deserve trash talk!
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Perhaps. My perception is that doctors in other fields are also treating things that are often a result of neglect or lifestyle choices, and that they tend to have the ability to better express that without vitriol or disdain for the human being.

Perhaps much of this stems from the difference in typical insurance coverage between the fields, neglect perhaps more likely as a result. Or maybe because the patient is literally unable to talk back.
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March 16th, 2024 at 8:53:17 AM permalink
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"meaningless" ???



What does that mean??
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In the words of John McEnroe: "You can't be serious!"

My point was that folks who seem to go to extremes (my view) to create a lifestyle or eating regimen to somehow extend their existence are many times on a fool's errand because genetics is the key. (No insult intended)

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"meaningless" ???



What does that mean??
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In the words of John McEnroe: "You can't be serious!"

My point was that folks who seem to go to extremes (my view) to create a lifestyle or eating regimen to somehow extend their existence are many times on a fool's errand because genetics is the key. (No insult intended)

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No insult recieved.

Nurse thought my parents have high blood pressure. Neither do. Just me.

An example of a genetic disorder requiring a strict diet is Phenylketonuria (No protein diet).
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As usual tuttigym is referring to a random sample of 1 (himself) as proof of something.

In any case I am not addressing that extremism might be bad.

What I was addressing was that if 99% of people born between 1930 and 1946 "are either retired or deceased" then that statement becomes meaningless. What if most of those folks are merely retired not dead?

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Avoid salad dressing. Unless is a fat free calcium free dressing.


Flax oil paired with quality vinegar works and tastes good.



Alternate the vinegars for variety.
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I have been watching classic concentration while working out lately. One of the cars they are giving away is a yugo. Another prize was landmark hotel and casino package. Yugos are terrible cars. Never heard of landmark hotel and casino in Las Vegas. These shows are from 1987 host Alex trebek
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Iirc Yugo came here in 1986. Like any cheapo car a lot of interest at first. I wonder what a perfect preserved one would go for? Parts probably do not exist anymore.
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I would love to own a Yugo. If I could find one in good condition as I have no mechanical ability. I would also like to own a Pacer, Gremlin, and Pinto.
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A doctor told me that many of the medications are the synthetic version of natural herbs. Medications are a good solution. Natural herbs have side effects.

There is a secondary personal reason why I am doing this route. Eventually, I may return to an ordinary diet in moderation.
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March 16th, 2024 at 11:20:11 AM permalink
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As usual tuttigym is referring to a random sample of 1 (himself) as proof of something.

In any case I am not addressing that extremism might be bad.

What I was addressing was that if 99% of people born between 1930 and 1946 "are either retired or deceased" then that statement becomes meaningless. What if most of those folks are merely retired not dead?


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As usual MDawg does his lawyer speak and spins the obvious that there are millions of folks worldwide that are 1% er's. I am pretty confident that many do not/have not engaged in the extreme. You know, like the EB sardine and avocado avalanche. ERRRP. Excuse me.

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Went to Subway for the first time in quite awhile last night with my preloaded card. Got a footlong Ultimate BMT with Chipotle sauce, no onions, lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, black olives, salt & pepper on Italian Herbs and cheese bread & toasted to go; nothing else, no footlong cookie. Their $5 foot long menu is no longer, it's more like a half foot long $5 menu. The foot longs are about $10 or more. Chalking this up to 100% inflation.
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Went to Subway for the first time in quite awhile last night with my preloaded card. Got a footlong Ultimate BMT with Chipotle sauce, no onions, lettuce, tomatoes, pickles, black olives, salt & pepper on Italian Herbs and cheese bread & toasted to go; nothing else, no footlong cookie. Their $5 foot long menu is no longer, it's more like a half foot long $5 menu. The foot longs are about $10 or more. Chalking this up to 100% inflation.
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Inflation has affected all fast food. Franchisees are under 20 year contract. Franchisees will stay open to avoid penalties on lost fees and royalties. I drove by two demolished Mcdonalds in the heart of Austin.

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Maybe the self-driving vehicle idea, is not driven by demand from citizens, but by industry interested in ending the truck drivers and every other job where someone is hired to move goods.

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I have a friend who has vision and other problems associated with approaching his 80s ... he really is hoping the self driving cars become a reality ... and now drives a car that actually does the steering [it senses when he doesn't have his hands on the wheel somehow and insists on it] . It also senses when the car ahead has slowed down and adjusts [when using cruise control at least]

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My car is like that when the cruise control is on for the highway and it reduces the stress of driving significantly and maybe gets me further without a nap, which isn't far. It also adjusts the high beams automatically at night when it sees other cars or streetlights. There's a few times where it veers off course is when there's an off lane or exit ramp from the highway. It's easy to override the steering. It's not the Tesla self-driving feature for an extra $10K, but it is helpful. If I set the cruise control for 70 mph and the traffic slows down to 65 mph because of spooked traffic, the car will slow down to the car ahead of me. If I pull out into the fast line with no cars in front, it will speed up to 70, but I find I need to pass these big trucks a little faster so I punch it to 75 then get back into the right lane. The cruise control turns off when I hit the brakes. I'm not sure how to turn it back on without doing a complete reset. If the cruise control hits the brakes, that doesn't count. I usually have to turn it off when entering town when the slower speed limit ahead signs start popping up. I really like how the car keeps its lane on the highway on cruise control, so I don't have to look like a swerving drunk, even though I'm not.
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My car is like that when the cruise control is on for the highway and it reduces the stress of driving significantly and maybe gets me further without a nap, which isn't far. It also adjusts the high beams automatically at night when it sees other cars or streetlights. There's a few times where it veers off course is when there's an off lane or exit ramp from the highway. It's easy to override the steering. It's not the Tesla self-driving feature for an extra $10K, but it is helpful. If I set the cruise control for 70 mph and the traffic slows down to 65 mph because of spooked traffic, the car will slow down to the car ahead of me. If I pull out into the fast line with no cars in front, it will speed up to 70, but I find I need to pass these big trucks a little faster so I punch it to 75 then get back into the right lane. The cruise control turns off when I hit the brakes. I'm not sure how to turn it back on without doing a complete reset. If the cruise control hits the brakes, that doesn't count. I usually have to turn it off when entering town when the slower speed limit ahead signs start popping up. I really like how the car keeps its lane on the highway on cruise control, so I don't have to look like a swerving drunk, even though I'm not.
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They had dimming high beams in the 60s.
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I had to push a button on the floor with my left foot to adjust the high beams back in the 1970's & 80's.

My mom got a replacement car 15 years ago and she didn't really let me drive it for a year. Then I drove it home for Thanksgiving and I couldn't read the street signs and everything looked dark. The headlights were aimed too low. She had poor eyesight at night so this must have been really bad for her and she didn't know there was a problem. I had her take it into the garage the next week and they aligned her headlights and the next time I drove the car at night, I could read the street signs and everything was much better.

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I have a friend who has vision and other problems associated with approaching his 80s ... he really is hoping the self driving cars become a reality ... and now drives a car that actually does the steering [it senses when he doesn't have his hands on the wheel somehow and insists on it] . It also senses when the car ahead has slowed down and adjusts [when using cruise control at least]

Yes I do the driving when we are going somewhere together!!
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I do not see self-driving cars helping this type of person in this lifetime. There is just too much to overcome. And every thing we overcome will lead to three more things. Then there are the "smart people" suggesting cars will not even have controls. In what world does that make sense?
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There's driverless taxis in San Francisco and a few other cities. Not saying they are 100% or that they won't be taken hostage by mobs of angry people with orange cones. But the technology is there to some degree. Whether it filters down to driver's licenses approved for driverless cars may be 5-15 years off.
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There's driverless taxis in San Francisco and a few other cities. Not saying they are 100% or that they won't be taken hostage by mobs of angry people with orange cones. But the technology is there to some degree. Whether it filters down to driver's licenses approved for driverless cars may be 5-15 years off.
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Doing it in a small area like that and doing it everywhere are two different things.

Think about when you have road construction for example. Traffic patterns can change fast and roadways can be temporary. Another big thing is it is unsafe to use cruise control in rain, outright crazy to use it in snow. How on earth can a driverless car be safe in these conditions?

People are thinking they will just sit in the car and totally ignore the driving process. I do not see or want that at all.
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People are thinking they will just sit in the car and totally ignore the driving process. I do not see or want that at all.



I think it will 100% happen, but I am guessing it will still be many decades.
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People are thinking they will just sit in the car and totally ignore the driving process. I do not see or want that at all.



I think it will 100% happen, but I am guessing it will still be many decades.
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Absolutely
You have no vision if you can't see this eventually happening
People are already sitting in a car and totally ignoring the driving process. It's called uber
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March 18th, 2024 at 4:50:06 PM permalink
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People are thinking they will just sit in the car and totally ignore the driving process. I do not see or want that at all.



I think it will 100% happen, but I am guessing it will still be many decades.
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I do not see 100% and no controls. No controls is a stupid idea that makes no sense. The kind that "educated" people cheer but "smart" people laugh at. You might get like an airplane where autopilot does most of it but you are still going to have to do the "first and last mile" say getting out of your driveway to a connected road and then park it when you get to Wal-Mart.
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