2020 Election
Quote: rxwineLaughing at mostly poor people in cages is kind of pathetic. I hope that’s not a trait you call being decent.
They are in the cages because they want to be in the cages. All they have to do is volunteer for deportation and they can go.
Quote: AZDuffmanThey are in the cages because they want to be in the cages. All they have to do is volunteer for deportation and they can go.
The price they are willing to pay to be in the land of “evil”. Donald Trump.
They hear the stories of free food, college, Health Care and more. They see Presidential candidates raise their hands in support of it, at the expense of working legal American citizens. They see Drivers Licenses available in NY, Mexican flags being raised in CO, Tacos El Gordo hiring on the Vegas strip.
Of course they are willing to spend a little time in a cage for all this stuff.
Quote: AZDuffmanThey are in the cages because they want to be in the cages. All they have to do is volunteer for deportation and they can go.
This sounds similar to your reasoning that gay people already had the right to marry as long it is heterosexual.
Give people bad options then pretend they have complete freedom.
Quote: rxwineThis sounds similar to your reasoning that gay people already had the right to marry as long it is heterosexual.
Give people bad options then pretend they have complete freedom.
You are correct on the first part. What they wanted was the definition of "marriage" changed to suit their lifestyle choice.
How is going back home a "bad" option? Because they will not get Democrats pushing to get them free health care and other freebies?
Cry me a river.
“To establish eligibility for asylum or refugee status, you must prove you are either the victim of past persecution or you have a well-founded fear of future persecution. In the case of past persecution, you must prove that you were persecuted in your home country or last country of residence.”
Perhaps trumpkin can change the asylum law and Make them send a resume’ in advance.
Quote: rxwineDepends on if they qualify for asylum
“To establish eligibility for asylum or refugee status, you must prove you are either the victim of past persecution or you have a well-founded fear of future persecution. In the case of past persecution, you must prove that you were persecuted in your home country or last country of residence.”
Perhaps trumpkin can change the asylum law and Make them send a resume’ in advance.
As opposed to using it as an excuse as the vast majority of these people are?
Or do you suggest just taking their word? Hell, pro immigration forces are providing them the talking points on what to say. Do you disagree with that point?
And WTF does persecution even mean? Well founded?
So you saying they are like Jews in Europe in the late 30’s, early 40’s. Yea, the exact same thing.
I’m sure those risking their lives to hide Jews in their attics also saw them as the only salvation and future of a dying party like the Dems do.
Election related because this is a huge issue to a majority of working Americans.
Sad that child has a heart condition. Sadder yet that slightly over 50% of Americans are seeing their tax dollars being spent this way. Far cheaper to build a wall in the long run.
We live in an America that punishes working Americans for taking a 2nd job or working Overtime with a tax rate that discourages it. Is it any wonder people throw away their morals and work for cash?
I know I’m not converting anyone here, but there is definitely something wrong here. And it isn’t sending the father back to Mexico.
Sorry I seem angry to AMS, but I’m still pissed looking for the $22,500 owed to me in Obamacare savings as an “Average” American family.
Reason #895 Trump will win re-election.
This “Educated” fine female example of liberalism is blaming binge watching for contributions to the GW farce.
Finally something we can all agree on, hopefully that this one is crazy.
Then again my late father also said “Never ever underestimate what another man will F.”
We didn’t always agree, but he was spot on with this observation.
Quote: rxwineDepends on if they qualify for asylum
“To establish eligibility for asylum or refugee status, you must prove you are either the victim of past persecution or you have a well-founded fear of future persecution. In the case of past persecution, you must prove that you were persecuted in your home country or last country of residence.”
Why should we get stuck with the bill for caring for these people? They can apply for asylum in any of the countries they pass through on their way to the USA.
It's about economics, not asylum.
Trump's new asylum rule, which went into effect today, requires asylum seekers who pass through another country to apply for asylum there, or they will not be eligible for protection in the US.
Protect the American worker first. Provide for the American people first.
Quote: Boz
We live in an America that punishes working Americans for taking a 2nd job or working Overtime with a tax rate that discourages it. Is it any wonder people throw away their morals and work for cash?
So you're trying to justify working for cash to avoid a law you don't like? Same as illegals trying to justify breaking a law so they can benefit.
Perhaps you should just argue we don't want them here, instead of those low life criminals who aren't anything like you.
For me it was never the amount of the dividend, it was more the fact, that the state had to recognize who the owners were of the resources of that state. All states should share in the spoils. Texas, Ok, Penn, etc. ought to pay dividends. It was one thing that made AK stand out from the others, the last frontier and all that. The state had to recognize the sourdoughs above the Cheechakos.Quote: SteverinosHow about those budget cuts in Alaska? Conservatives love their socialism don't they? Everybody loves to bag on handouts until they put their hand out.
I didn't agree with Warner [last governor] at all about arbitrarily confiscating the wealth, that by law belonged to the people.
Move the capitol, and drastically cut the cost of state government, to where people can at least access their legislatures and voice differences, instead of hiding away in Juneau isolated by remoteness, where they can't be accessed.
Warner [previous governor] cut sno plowing and schools , instead of assessing fair royalty's on the oil/fish/ minerals and timber, while confiscating dividends. Always the same tactics. Cut the sno plows first to shock the public.
Until a few years ago, the oil company's were the ones that reported how much oil was pumped out at Valdez, the state had no idea even of how much was taken pumped. That's silly. That's like asking the drunks at the bar how much whiskey they poured themselves. The state lost billions in revenue. And then if you recall the set aside for state pensions fiasco, a terrible boondoggle. We are lucky Russia didn't get Alaska back.
Wave it proudly then, if that's what you believe.Quote: rxwineI just found out a Nazi flag is fine with a coiled snake on it.
Quote: rxwineSo you're trying to justify working for cash to avoid a law you don't like? Same as illegals trying to justify breaking a law so they can benefit.
Perhaps you should just argue we don't want them here, instead of those low life criminals who aren't anything like you.
No justification and if you knew me, you would understand. I compete with people who pay employees cash giving them an unfair advantage. I pay matching SS and FICA, I pay UC on their wages, I pay WC insurance on my total wages. I lose potential employees who see working for $3 less an hour as a better deal.
Worst of all I deal with those who love the 50/50 mix of cash and paycheck that allows them to qualify for the most government benefits possible. If you don’t think this happens, I can show you the details.
It pisses me off, no doubt about it. And these are legal Americans I am talking about, not illegals.
Quote: petroglyphWave it proudly then, if that's what you believe.
I'm not about erasing history, just putting some of it in museums where it belongs.
Quote: rxwineI'm not about erasing history, just putting some of it in museums where it belongs.
That is what the monuments are, museum pieces.
Quote: AZDuffmanThat is what the monuments are, museum pieces.
Most of them aren't even worthy of a museum pieces, but I'm fine with putting them in museums.
Quote: rxwineMost of them aren't even worthy of a museum pieces, but I'm fine with putting them in museums.
So you think a monument should be nowhere but a museum?
Sometimes the losers are lost to history altogether. You got way more than many.
There's no bill of rights for the dead. AFAIK
Quote: rxwineWinners make the rules. Maybe the losers get no monuments at all.
Sometimes the losers are lost to history altogether. You got way more than many.
There's no bill of rights for the dead. AFAIK
So you are saying we should tear down the Vietnam War Memorial?
Quote: AZDuffmanSo you are saying we should tear down the Vietnam War Memorial?
Did they relocate it in Vietnam? Besides we signed no concessions or surrender agreement that I know of.
Al Queda did the same thing blowing up the 1400 year old statue of the Bamiyan Buddha in Afghanistan.Quote: rxwineWinners make the rules. Maybe the losers get no monuments at all.
Sometimes the losers are lost to history altogether. You got way more than many.
There's no bill of rights for the dead. AFAIK
Isis is blowing up world heritage sites, destroying ancient history.
I'm not a Buddhist or a Mesopotamian, or even Christian for that matter. But I hate to see all this beautiful archaeology destroyed.
If statues of Confederates, or slave owners for that matter were truly offensive to the left, then Mt. Rushmore needs to be destroyed as well. Or the left is just being hypocritical phony's, and playing politics by destroying Confederate statues. You really can't have it both ways.
When will you bring down Mt. Rushmore or the Jefferson Monument?
Quote: rxwineDid they relocate it in Vietnam? Besides we signed no concessions or surrender agreement that I know of.
Aren't the statues mostly in the south?
We lost in Vietnam, everyone knows that. I guess you think we should tear it down.
Quote: petroglyphAl Queda did the same thing blowing up the 1400 year old statue of the Bamiyan Buddha in Afghanistan.
Isis is blowing up world heritage sites, destroying ancient history.
I'm not a Buddhist or a Mesopotamian, or even Christian for that matter. But I hate to see all this beautiful archaeology destroyed.
If statues of Confederates, or slave owners for that matter were truly offensive to the left, then Mt. Rushmore needs to be destroyed as well. Or the left is just being hypocritical phony's, and playing politics by destroying Confederate statues. You really can't have it both ways.
When will you bring down Mt. Rushmore or the Jefferson Monument?
It's far from hypocritical to weigh anyone's worth vs. their detriment. Also depends on what the statue represents. A statue of MLK having a illicit affair is not going to be the statue the US puts up. Neither is a statue of Thomas Jefferson ordering slaves about. You tell me what glorious ideas a confederate soldier represents and in particular what ideals the particular statue represents and I'll reconsider.
And btw, I said nothing about wanting to see anything destroyed. But I did say you're lucky than others in history. Also, I said put it in a museum if you want to preserve history. Obviously you can't put a whole mountain in a museum.
Now you want me to put it in a museum, after I pay for that you'd want it on a mountain, then a valley then and ocean. It never stops when your spending someone else's money.Quote: rxwineIt's far from hypocritical to weigh anyone's worth vs. their detriment. Also depends on what the statue represents. A statue of MLK having a illicit affair is not going to be the statue the US puts up. Neither is a statue of Thomas Jefferson ordering slaves about. You tell me what glorious ideas a confederate soldier represents and in particular what ideals the particular statue represents and I'll reconsider.
And btw, I said nothing about wanting to see anything destroyed. But I did say you're lucky than others in history. Also, I said put it in a museum if you want to preserve history. Obviously you can't put a whole mountain in a museum.
The parks systems are so ashamed of themselves for tearing them down, they move many of them at night.
We need these statues to remind us of how awful war is, if no other reason. '"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past,"' repeated Winston obediently."
Quote: petroglyphWe need these statues to remind us of how awful war is, if no other reason.
There is one official federally funded monument to slaves. One monument to 9 of George Washington's slaves.
On the other hand.
Quote:First, far from simply being markers of historic events and people, as proponents argue, these memorials were created and funded by Jim Crow governments to pay homage to a slave-owning society and to serve as blunt assertions of dominance over African-Americans.
Second, contrary to the claim that today’s objections to the monuments are merely the product of contemporary political correctness, they were actively opposed at the time, often by African-Americans, as instruments of white power.
Finally, Confederate monuments aren’t just heirlooms, the artifacts of a bygone era. Instead, American taxpayers are still heavily investing in these tributes today. We have found that, over the past ten years, taxpayers have directed at least $40 million to Confederate monuments—statues, homes, parks, museums, libraries and cemeteries—and to Confederate heritage organizations.
Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/costs-confederacy-special-report-180970731/#j5x0KV2AFBdtdciU.99
It's not a very old article either, December 2018
Quote: petroglyphAl Queda did the same thing blowing up the 1400 year old statue of the Bamiyan Buddha in Afghanistan.
Isis is blowing up world heritage sites, destroying ancient history.
I'm not a Buddhist or a Mesopotamian, or even Christian for that matter. But I hate to see all this beautiful archaeology destroyed.
If statues of Confederates, or slave owners for that matter were truly offensive to the left, then Mt. Rushmore needs to be destroyed as well. Or the left is just being hypocritical phony's, and playing politics by destroying Confederate statues. You really can't have it both ways.
When will you bring down Mt. Rushmore or the Jefferson Monument?
How many people on Mt. Rushmore betrayed their country and were responsible for hundreds of thousands of Americans being killed for defending our flag?
The true damage Trump probably does, long term, is that he creates a role model which tens of millions of youngsters and teens may emulate. Millions of young people internalizing Trump's public self-presentation style, braggadocio, and looseness with facts is an actual problem, even if you agree with all of his policy points (I agree with maybe half). The culture has reversed its priorities and elected someone who personifies a villain by all American standards of the last 100 years. We may be faced with literally millions of mini-me Trumps going forward.
Just an aside - I also find it really interesting that with all of the attacking Trump does regarding the physical style or behavioral characteristics of others, nobody takes him on and says the obvious. The man was fat when he took office, and he's gained weight since. Probably because (outside of Samoa) Americans have cornered the market on obesity, discussion of Trump's physical laziness and lack of weight control never makes it into the public discourse, even though it's the obvious counterpoint to "little" this guy or "low energy" that guy. People won't criticize obese folks because it alienates so many Americans who are themselves obese. It's fascinating.
Quote: petroglyphAl Queda did the same thing blowing up the 1400 year old statue of the Bamiyan Buddha in Afghanistan.
Isis is blowing up world heritage sites, destroying ancient history.
I'm not a Buddhist or a Mesopotamian, or even Christian for that matter. But I hate to see all this beautiful archaeology destroyed.
If statues of Confederates, or slave owners for that matter were truly offensive to the left, then Mt. Rushmore needs to be destroyed as well. Or the left is just being hypocritical phony's, and playing politics by destroying Confederate statues. You really can't have it both ways.
When will you bring down Mt. Rushmore or the Jefferson Monument?
Not sure if you're deliberately misunderstanding the issue or not.
Nobody on Rushmore seceded from the Union. The 4 of them.made this country stronger, more unified. They were chosen for founding(Washington), educating(Jefferson), holding(Lincoln), and protecting(TR) this country as a whole.
The civil war general statues were a device, an excuse at least in part. They were erected to intimidate and scare a particular group of Americans, by other Americans. Not to celebrate national victories. Not to further the Union.
Quote: AZDuffmanSo, is George Washington a "traitor" by this standard? Does the Declaration of Independence celebrate treason?
Do you propose that there be no monuments to a failed revolution worldwide?
How many statues of British redcoats are on American soil? Zero, AFAIK. That's what you're arguing for here. Ridiculous.
Quote: beachbumbabsNot sure if you're deliberately misunderstanding the issue or not.
Nobody on Rushmore seceded from the Union. The 4 of them.made this country stronger, more unified. They were chosen for founding(Washington), educating(Jefferson), holding(Lincoln), and protecting(TR) this country as a whole.
The civil war general statues were a device, an excuse at least in part. They were erected to intimidate and scare a particular group of Americans, by other Americans. Not to celebrate national victories. Not to further the Union.
You are missing what is going on around you. It is slowly starting, but that is how all crazy liberal ideas work. Much of the Dem platform in 2020 was considered fringe and crazy just a few years ago.
It relates to this in that is a small but vocal fringe out there looking to punish Jefferson, Washington and others for owning slaves. And you are going to see more and more of it in the future and it will get to a point where debating if Mt Rushmore should stay will be an issue.
Quote: BozIt relates to this in that is a small but vocal fringe out there looking to punish Jefferson, Washington and others for owning slaves. And you are going to see more and more of it in the future and it will get to a point where debating if Mt Rushmore should stay will be an issue.
I think this is a salient point.
While I may (and do) question many things, I'm not sure outright destruction is the answer. Do we really want to erase history? Could be wrong, but I feel such erasure to be of a greater harm than allowing something that may attract undesirables.
Part of this may be bias. I'm Seneca, and I fly the flag of the Haudenosaunee. Students of history may remember that of the members of the Confederacy, the Seneca, Mohawk, Cayuga and Onandogwa were allied with the British during the Revolutionary war. Perhaps he gets a pass because he was instrumental in uniting the US with Indian Country, but a statue of Gaiant:wake still stands in Buffalo, and WPA has a state park named after him. Does this get erased, too?
Or look to J. Marion Sims, another who is honored with a statue in Buffalo. Hailed as the Father of Gynecology, no one would likely have heard of him save for obscure references in med texts. But precisely because of the statue, and the distress it caused, I found out that Doc Sims revolutionized women's health by experimenting on blacks. The fact that they were property and the "fact" that savages couldn't feel pain... it was Tuskegee all over again. Without that "offense" of plopping his likeness front and center, there's a whole swath of history and culture I'd still be ignorant of. Whereas now, I'm aware of a whole lot more and am a better person because of it.
G Washington was traitor supreme. He was quoted as saying he would never step foot on English soil again. The Englishers still erected a statue of GDub, on English soil, and even shipped American soil in so he could stand atop it and keep his promise.
History that is erased cannot be learned from. Intentional ignorance solves nothing.
Quote: BozYou are missing what is going on around you. It is slowly starting, but that is how all crazy liberal ideas work. Much of the Dem platform in 2020 was considered fringe and crazy just a few years ago.
It relates to this in that is a small but vocal fringe out there looking to punish Jefferson, Washington and others for owning slaves. And you are going to see more and more of it in the future and it will get to a point where debating if Mt Rushmore should stay will be an issue.
It's possible you're correct and I'm missing that.
It's much more likely that the vast majority of us recognize that concept as an opposition-to-removal rebuttal crafted to make the stance about Jim Crow relics seem ludicrous.
All states except Mississippi, for example, have removed the Stars and Bars from their state flag (that had them). South Carolina, most notably, took it from the Capitol grounds and retired it to a museum.
This is because people of evil intent use it to rally their like-minded fellow citizens. And no, I'm not saying every person who flies it from their truck on game day is evil-minded. Not every person is Dylan Root. But there are enough of them. And, thanks to the internet, they are more organized than ever before.
Or are you going to argue that going to an all-black church and shooting hostages during bible study was Roots' Constitutionally protected First and Second Amendment expression? Because that's the logical endpoint of your argument. He certainly thought so. He released one to live and explain/justify why he did it.
People of hate like to identify with it. Tattoos of lightning bolts, swasticas, 88, HH. Hand signals in photobombs. Old flags, burning crosses, obscene graffiti, 14 Words, reverence for the Old Days when what they remember with fondness includes lynchings and wife-beatings and dragging people behind trucks for the crime of Otherness.
Anyway, the statues are a part of that, erected with that intent, still serving as an ominous reminder. Or did you miss the point of the swastika-flying Brownshirts' torchlight parade in Charlottesville? Their rally destination was one of those statues, Robert E Lee.
Quote: beachbumbabsHow many statues of British redcoats are on American soil? Zero, AFAIK. That's what you're arguing for here. Ridiculous.
The Redcoats were not the "traitors." See the difference? One man's traitor is another's freedom fighter.
Please live and let live.
Because you have to be blind not to see that the next target is the Founding Fathers that owned slaves, which is already starting. Do you support that?
Quote: redietzMy problems with Trump have nothing to do with his "politics" per se. I find it absolutely fascinating that someone who comports themselves like a villain in a Willis or Eastwood movie was elected president. The role Trump plays (and I'm not even assigning it as his actual personality) and the way he behaves in public would absolutely characterize him as "the bad guy" in virtually all American films, plays, novels, and art forms from 1930 forward. It suggests that many, if not most, Americans identify with the characters that have been assigned villain roles in American culture for the last hundred years (at the minimum), and feel like the villain persona is their preferred leadership style. It is a complete reversal and rejection of what has been culturally considered "good" or "civil," including the fact that Trump wriggled out of military duty and has been involved in 3500 lawsuits regarding subcontractors over the years, with Trump playing the bully.
The true damage Trump probably does, long term, is that he creates a role model which tens of millions of youngsters and teens may emulate. Millions of young people internalizing Trump's public self-presentation style, braggadocio, and looseness with facts is an actual problem, even if you agree with all of his policy points (I agree with maybe half). The culture has reversed its priorities and elected someone who personifies a villain by all American standards of the last 100 years. We may be faced with literally millions of mini-me Trumps going forward.
An interesting take, but this is why the hero/villain thing changed over the years, starting in the late-1990s. First with professional wrestling, where the fans started to decide they were tired of watching the babyface get cheated on and taking it week after week, waiting for the maybe climax match where he got even. Then on scripted TV. Heroes were flawed and antagonists had hero qualities. A great example is "The Shield," a great show where a crooked cop became the hero and the supposed-to-be hero was seen as a self-serving politician who would do anything to get his way, including putting the antagonist to work for him.
This reflects life. Before Trump we had GOP "heroes" like McCain and Romney. They got sand kicked in their face and did nothing. They lost big. McCain was incapable of winning, but Romney had a real shot. But he let himself be defined as a pampered rich guy. Trump learned from all of this, and used the tactic against his opponents. He still does. I loved Vic Mackey and I love Trump.
Just an aside - I also find it really interesting that with all of the attacking Trump does regarding the physical style or behavioral characteristics of others, nobody takes him on and says the obvious. The man was fat when he took office, and he's gained weight since. Probably because (outside of Samoa) Americans have cornered the market on obesity, discussion of Trump's physical laziness and lack of weight control never makes it into the public discourse, even though it's the obvious counterpoint to "little" this guy or "low energy" that guy. People won't criticize obese folks because it alienates so many Americans who are themselves obese. It's fascinating.
Quote: FaceWhile I may (and do) question many things, I'm not sure outright destruction is the answer. Do we really want to erase history? Could be wrong, but I feel such erasure to be of a greater harm than allowing something that may attract undesirables.
A lot of people who support displaying these monuments are the same people who are against showing other historical events that paint the US negatively (here's one example of that: https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2018/10/24/citizen-activists-push-to-revise-history-textbooks.html). Imagine putting up a statue of someone who was killed by police right outside a police station on the grounds that we don't want to erase history.
There are people who support displaying Confederate history on the grounds that they think the Confederates fighting to maintain slavery was the right side -- and then try to push the idea that the Civil War was nothing about slavery. This is an attempt to use the controversy to erase history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy)
Another issue is how these things are used. States and state institutions really only started using Confederate flags only after the Confederacy was long gone as a way to show they were against the civil rights movement. That's not history, that's a political statement.
"The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.” “The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master—that's all.”Quote: beachbumbabsNot sure if you're deliberately misunderstanding the issue or not.
Nobody on Rushmore seceded from the Union. The 4 of them.made this country stronger, more unified. They were chosen for founding(Washington), educating(Jefferson), holding(Lincoln), and protecting(TR) this country as a whole.
The civil war general statues were a device, an excuse at least in part. They were erected to intimidate and scare a particular group of Americans, by other Americans. Not to celebrate national victories. Not to further the Union.
Nice spin Alice. I said it is hypocritical to remove a civil war statue claiming it represents oppression or slavery, if you are not going to take down the Mt. Rushmore monument of the slave owning and rapist Jefferson. That is the issue.
Quote: TomG....There are people who support displaying Confederate history on the grounds that they think the Confederates fighting to maintain slavery was the right side -- and then try to push the idea that the Civil War was nothing about slavery. This is an attempt to use the controversy to erase history (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_Confederacy....
There are those that try to say the civil war was fought because the south wanted slaves and the north wanted to free slaves.
There are those that say the industrialized north wasn't trying to force the south to sell them cotton instead of selling it to Britain for a much higher price.
Quote: petroglyph
Nice spin Alice. I said it is hypocritical to remove a civil war statue claiming it represents oppression or slavery, if you are not going to take down the Mt. Rushmore monument of the slave owning and rapist Jefferson. That is the issue.
Just throw a blanket over it; more cost effective.
If we needed statues to remember anyone, there'd be a lot of people I forgot. The people forgotten weren't recorded in any history book in the first place. That's how you help make someone disappear forever.
I'll probably be sneering someday when steak comes from a lab everyday, and people want to save a cheesy statue of Colonel Saunders in the town square as an important figure in history (advertising)
I would contribute if someone wants to build a statue of Ron Paul.Quote: rxwineJust throw a blanket over it; more cost effective.
If we needed statues to remember anyone, there'd be a lot of people I forgot. The people forgotten weren't recorded in any history book in the first place. That's how you help make someone disappear forever.
I'll probably be sneering someday when steak comes from a lab everyday, and people want to save a cheesy statue of Colonel Saunders in the town square as an important figure in history (advertising)
8 Trump voting middle aged women
in Texas? It was priceless. The point
was to get them to admit Trump was
toast because of his tweets last weekend.
Instead they supported him to the max.
They said the 4 women are the racists,
not Trump. They all agreed, hey, if
you don't like it here, leave. They were
very outspoken about it. Rasmussen
shows Trump's numbers have shot up
in his base since his tweets. Trump
is playing rope-a-dope, he has the media
in the palm of his hand as always. He's
making these 4 whack job women the
face of the Dem party.
Quote: EvenBobAnybody catch the interview on CNN of
8 Trump voting middle aged women
in Texas?
Nope. Why on earth would anyone waste their time watching that?
That sounds just like Antifa. Almost like Omar and Ocasio-Cortez.Quote: beachbumbabs. . . are you going to argue that going to an all-black church and shooting hostages during bible study was Roots' Constitutionally protected First and Second Amendment expression? Because that's the logical endpoint of your argument. He certainly thought so. He released one to live and explain/justify why he did it.
People of hate like to identify with it. Tattoos of lightning bolts, swasticas, 88, HH. Hand signals in photobombs. Old flags, burning crosses, obscene graffiti, 14 Words, reverence for the Old Days when what they remember with fondness includes lynchings and wife-beatings and dragging people behind trucks for the crime of Otherness
Quote: EvenBobAnybody catch the interview on CNN of
8 Trump voting middle aged women
in Texas? It was priceless. The point
was to get them to admit Trump was
toast because of his tweets last weekend.
Instead they supported him to the max.
They said the 4 women are the racists,
not Trump. They all agreed, hey, if
you don't like it here, leave. They were
very outspoken about it. Rasmussen
shows Trump's numbers have shot up
in his base since his tweets. Trump
is playing rope-a-dope, he has the media
in the palm of his hand as always. He's
making these 4 whack job women the
face of the Dem party.
He is forcing the Democrats to support their members who hate the USA. Just a few people support this kind of thing, far more are against it. In related news, AOC is getting GOP challengers! It is a Democrat stronghold, but would it not be a hoot if the GOP challenger said how many AMZN jobs this airhead cost and asked if the voters might have wanted to work there, and the voters agree?!
Then she might end up on "Bar Rescue."
Far more interesting why would a supposedly national broadcast network "waste their time" broadcasting that? Can't be ratings, where CNN is down in the dumps.Quote: ams288Nope. Why on earth would anyone waste their time watching that?
As a group we're tired of being called racists. We're tired of the bigoted attacks against us from the far left and are happy to see someone finally standing up to the bigoted thugs that kick, punch, and even sometimes throw bleach in our faces.
Trump's twitter comments had many of us cheering.
MAGA!
Quote: ams288Nope. Why on earth would anyone waste their time watching that?
It was highly entertaining because
CNN didn't think that would be
the outcome. Notice there are
no polls of Trump's base since
the weekend. There are polls, but
we can't see them because the
base loves what Trump said.
Quote: EvenBobthe"
base loves what Trump said.
His base? His base can't get him elected playing the fool no matter how much they "rah rah" for him.
Quote: rxwineHis base? His base can't get him elected playing the fool no matter how much they "rah rah" for him.
Remember this? https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/05/04/flashback_june_2015_bill_maher__his_audience_laugh_at_ann_coulter_for_saying_trump_could_win.html
Some people were naive back then as well.
Quote: Keyser
It's the difference between bringing home the Chucky doll, and living with it for awhile to find out it is possessed.
Quote: rxwineIt's the difference between bringing home the Chucky doll, and living with it for awhile to find out it is possessed.
Its finally getting that sexy hot girl to marry you and you realize what a mistake it was
