2020 Election
Quote: AZDuffmanOf course people want to make money selling soda pop. Otherwise they would not sell it. The who thing in NYC is nanny state gone wild.
Soda pop has no "effect" on the rest of us.
Dont think just because I agree 100% with this statement I am turning Republican
Quote: AZDuffmanOf course people want to make money selling soda pop. Otherwise they would not sell it. The who thing in NYC is nanny state gone wild.
Soda pop has no "effect" on the rest of us.
Guess you really don't pay any taxes.
Quote: rxwineGuess you really don't pay any taxes.
What does paying taxes have to do with soda pop?
Quote: AZDuffmanWhat does paying taxes have to do with soda pop?
There's strong links to heart disease, diabetes, obesity. You pay for Medicaid cost for some of the problems created by those things if nothing else.
Anybody has a heart attack could drive over you on the sidewalk or other accident.
Quote: EvenBobThere was a guy on a gambling
forum from 2006-10 from
there. He hated the US with a
vengeance and LOVED Chavez.
But then things started disappearing.
Newspapers, TV stations, whole
industries were shut down.
Even after Chavez closed all the
casinos because he couldn't
get his hands on more of their
money, even then this guy hated
the US and loved Chavez. I wonder
how he feels today. Probably blames
the US for all their problems.
It is just another example why "Animal Farm" needs to be read by everyone. From Chavez and his people living in such awful conditions as he blames the USA to right here where in the inner cities we have had mayors caught smoking crack on camera get re-elected because "whites are to blame" it happens everywhere.
It is always the same. Leader gets elected based on socialist policies. When socialism does not work (never does) that leader blames a straw man for all the problems. The society gets used to being poor so they keep re-electing the leader, who keeps blaming the strawman.
Meanwhile, anyone with any ambition does anything they can to escape the place. They are always blamed as "traitors." Punishment ranges from imprisonment in a place like Cuba to Blacks being called "Uncle Toms" when they do not toe the line in the USA.
It is easy to see when you are not blinded by the promises of socialism and instead see its reality.
Quote: rxwineThere's strong links to heart disease, diabetes, obesity. You pay for Medicaid cost for some of the problems created by those things if nothing else.
Anybody has a heart attack could drive over you on the sidewalk or other accident.
Nonsense. All kinds of things cause these things. If not for soda pop the nanny-staters would find something else to blame.
OTOH, I would be in favor of removing soda pop, including diet, from the SNAP program, along with other foods of low nutritional value. Why are we paying for people to buy snack foods?
Quote: AZDuffmanNonsense. All kinds of things cause these things. If not for soda pop the nanny-staters would find something else to blame.
About what I expected. Although you can't complain that you need a billion years of trending to have any evidence.
Quote: AZDuffman
It is easy to see when you are not blinded by the promises of socialism and instead see its reality.
It's worth remembering that the Pilgrim's
tried socialism the first year they were
here. It failed miserably because there
were too many who didn't pull their
own weight yet expected to be rewarded
equally. They went with capitalism and
flourished eventually.
Is the tax supposed to help pay for that care? Will high fructose corn syrup be next?Quote: rxwineThere's strong links to heart disease, diabetes, obesity. You pay for Medicaid cost for some of the problems created by those things if nothing else.
The country with the largest reserves can't deal with it. PDVSA was a farce even before sanctions. Now even NPR recognizes that:Quote: rxwineIf you want to talk about factors other than demand and supply that’s fine. But my point is still correct.
"Despite being home to the world's largest oil reserves, Venezuela is suffering a major gasoline shortage. It's because of economic mismanagement and U.S. sanctions.
NOEL KING, HOST:
Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves in the world - almost 300 billion barrels of oil lie beneath its territory. But Venezuela is running out of gasoline. As John Otis reports, the shortages have led to epic lines for gas.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #1: (Foreign language spoken).
JOHN OTIS, BYLINE: Scores of vehicles line up outside a gas station in Villa del Rosario, an agricultural town near Venezuela's northwest border with Colombia. Henry Ojeda, who owns a Chevy Silverado pickup, needs fuel to get to his dairy farm. He's been in the queue for five days.
HENRY OJEDA: (Foreign language spoken).
OTIS: Ojeda says he's been sleeping overnight in his pickup to prevent thieves from stealing the little gas he has left in his tank. Every so often, the line starts to move. Ojeda drives forward five or 10 yards, then gets out to wait some more. A few motorists hang hammocks. Some sip from bottles of rum.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #2: (Foreign language spoken).
OTIS: Others break out folding tables and play dominoes, a favorite pastime in gas lines. Farther ahead at the filling station, the scene is tense.
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #3: (Foreign language spoken).
UNIDENTIFIED PERSON #4: (Foreign language spoken).
OTIS: National Guard troops try to keep order among desperate drivers. Due to nationwide electricity shortages, power is being rationed. Within the next hour or so, the lights will go out, and there will be no way to pump gas. All of this is making life tougher in a nation already afflicted with hyperinflation and shortages of food and medicine; critics blame the collapse on government corruption and mismanagement. Venezuela's first major oil deposits were discovered here in western Venezuela more than a hundred years ago. But now signs of the industry's decay are everywhere.
Quote: SanchoPanzaIs the tax supposed to help pay for that care? Will high fructose corn syrup be next?
The NYC proposal was not for a soda tax like they imposed on cigarettes but for a SODA BAN
Restaurants could only sell small soda sizes was the proposal
Retarded for a number of reasons
1) people would just be forced to purchase 2 small sodas and would be gouged by restaurants
2) some large percentage of NYC restaurants have self-serve so obviously the other restaurants could just install those sell small sizes and people would just refill all day.
In the end, the reason the law was overturned was on the merits of unfair business regulations.
There was no restrictions on how much soda could be sold at grocery stores (yep, 2 liters illegal in nyc? At groceries?) It was the judges opinion the restrictions on restaurants would give an unfair business advantage to groceries selling the same products
But NYers really just want their soda freedom either way
Quote: SanchoPanzaIs the tax supposed to help pay for that care? Will high fructose corn syrup be next?
You decide.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-answers/high-fructose-corn-syrup/faq-20058201
Mayo Clinic
Quote:At this time, there's insufficient evidence to say that high-fructose corn syrup is any less healthy than other types of sweeteners.
It is known, however, that too much added sugar of all kinds — not just high-fructose corn syrup — can contribute unwanted calories that are linked to health problems, such as weight gain, type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome and high triglyceride levels. All of these boost your risk of heart disease.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-drinks/sugary-drinks/
Harvard
Quote:A study that followed 40,000 men for two decades found that those who averaged one can of a sugary beverage per day had a 20% higher risk of having a heart attack or dying from a heart attack than men who rarely consumed sugary drinks. [18]
A related study in women found a similar sugary beverage–heart disease link. The Nurses’ Health Study, which tracked the health of nearly 90,000 women over two decades, found that women who drank more than two servings of sugary beverage each day had a 40 percent higher risk of heart attacks or death from heart disease than women who rarely drank sugary beverages. [19]
People who drink a lot of sugary drinks often tend to weigh more—and eat less healthfully—than people who don’t drink sugary drinks, and the volunteers in the Nurses’ Health Study were no exception. But researchers accounted for differences in diet quality, energy intake, and weight among the study volunteers. They found that having an otherwise healthy diet, or being at a healthy weight, only slightly diminished the risk associated with drinking sugary beverages.
This suggests that weighing too much, or simply eating too many calories, may only partly explain the relationship between sugary drinks and heart disease. Some risk may also be attributed to the metabolic effects of fructose from the sugar or HFCS used to sweeten these beverages.
The adverse effects of the high glycemic load from these beverages on blood glucose, cholesterol fractions, and inflammatory factors probably also contribute to the higher risk of heart disease. Read more about blood sugar and glycemic load.
Quote: darkozThe NYC proposal was not for a soda tax like they imposed on cigarettes but for a SODA BAN
Restaurants could only sell small soda sizes was the proposal
Retarded for a number of reasons
1) people would just be forced to purchase 2 small sodas and would be gouged by restaurants
2) some large percentage of NYC restaurants have self-serve so obviously the other restaurants could just install those sell small sizes and people would just refill all day.
In the end, the reason the law was overturned was on the merits of unfair business regulations.
There was no restrictions on how much soda could be sold at grocery stores (yep, 2 liters illegal in nyc? At groceries?) It was the judges opinion the restrictions on restaurants would give an unfair business advantage to groceries selling the same products
But NYers really just want their soda freedom either way
"Soda Freedom?" I just call it FREEDOM! Problem is they are such sheep they will keep electing the same Democrats that pass these kinds of laws. NYC is full of problems. Size of soda pop is not one of them.
Quote: AZDuffman"Soda Freedom?" I just call it FREEDOM! Problem is they are such sheep they will keep electing the same Democrats that pass these kinds of laws. NYC is full of problems. Size of soda pop is not one of them.
Lol, the soda ban was the brainchild of a Republican!
Complaining it was our tax dollars that paid for obesity issues from soda
Quote: darkozLol, the soda ban was the brainchild of a Republican!
Complaining it was our tax dollars that paid for obesity issues from soda
No, it was the brainchild of Bloomberg. We have been thru this. Only Republican mayor of NYC in modern times was Rudy.
Quote: AZDuffman"Soda Freedom?" I just call it FREEDOM! Problem is they are such sheep they will keep electing the same Democrats that pass these kinds of laws. NYC is full of problems. Size of soda pop is not one of them.
Speaking of freedoms, which party controlled all three branches of government when the UIGEA was passed? Honestly, seriously, this event was when my disdain for the Republican party began. Passed literally at the stroke of midnight with no committee oversight on the last day before they adjourned for the midterms. Great job republicans! Pretty pretty sneaky!
We supposedly live in the most free country on the planet, but yet we can't drink soda while playing online poker in our underwear.
We should all be enraged.
Quote:Throughout the trade war, President Trump has frequently claimed the conflict would force companies to pull their production out of China and move it to the United States.
More than 50 multinational corporations have announced plans to move manufacturing out of China, or are considering to do so, according to reporting from the Nikkei Asian Review. Apple, Google, Nintendo and Dell, among others, are trying to avoid the import penalties on $250 billion in Chinese goods. But rather than move their operations to the United States, as Trump urged, many of these companies are aiming to rebuild their supply chains abroad, primarily in Southeast Asia.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/more-than-50-major-companies-from-apple-to-nintendo-pull-production-from-china-because-of-the-trade-war/ar-AAEwybS?ocid=spartanntp
Quote: SteverinosSpeaking of freedoms, which party controlled all three branches of government when the UIGEA was passed? Honestly, seriously, this event was when my disdain for the Republican party began. Passed literally at the stroke of midnight with no committee oversight on the last day before they adjourned for the midterms. Great job republicans! Pretty pretty sneaky!
We supposedly live in the most free country on the planet, but yet we can't drink soda while playing online poker in our underwear.
We should all be enraged.
I was completely against that law. But I am not switching parties over one law that was probably inevitable at the time. I was supposed to be playing poker in my underwear three days ago, but some kinks to be ironed out.
Hopefully they get ironed out, the casino kicked me out for playing in my underwear last year.
President Carter said Venezueala has the cleanest elections anyplace, https://www.globalresearch.ca/former-us-president-carter-venezuelan-electoral-system-best-in-the-world/5305779 . We do not have the right to destabilize their country. If we stayed out of it, the laws of supply and demand would dictate the people would get sick of Madurro and change it, seeing as how they have free elections.Quote: AZDuffmanIt is just another example why "Animal Farm" needs to be read by everyone. From Chavez and his people living in such awful conditions as he blames the USA to right here where in the inner cities we have had mayors caught smoking crack on camera get re-elected because "whites are to blame" it happens everywhere.
It is always the same. Leader gets elected based on socialist policies. When socialism does not work (never does) that leader blames a straw man for all the problems. The society gets used to being poor so they keep re-electing the leader, who keeps blaming the strawman.
Meanwhile, anyone with any ambition does anything they can to escape the place. They are always blamed as "traitors." Punishment ranges from imprisonment in a place like Cuba to Blacks being called "Uncle Toms" when they do not toe the line in the USA.
It is easy to see when you are not blinded by the promises of socialism and instead see its reality.
What rational do we have for spending tens of millions of dollars to destabilize their country? When we tried to install our puppet Guaido a couple months ago, the Venezuelan military stood patriotically, by choice with their duly elected president.
This is just another United fruit company coup in South America. Have you read General Smedley's Butler's "war is a racket" https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf
Again and again and again, we strong arm the little country's in South America, and the peasants escape to America. What did we think they would do? Of course they come here. We are the cause of our problem with immigration. Why can't we have a fair and free trade ? You can't sanction them from buying medicine and then claim their brand of socialism doesn't work in healthcare.
Who cares if they are socialist or Buddhist or capitalists, or anything else. It's not our business. Quit being the world police.
We are strong arming Venezuela, to keep the price of oil up. It's always about the money. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-gold/venezuela-loses-1-4-billion-of-gold-to-banks-for-guarantees-sources-idUSKCN1T72LU Of course they can't look good in a fight with their hands tied behind their backs.
1. Based on Trump's career, when he makes mistake, he likes to make some big ones.
2. This China tariff business looks increasingly like a big bonehead mistake
3, China likely will wait through the 2020 election giving Trump no real ground.
4. If Trump really wanted to take on China tariffs he should have got together with our allies instead of pissing them off.
5. China is the kind of place where they decided to build this massive dam, and basically told 10s of thousands of people to relocate or drown. That means they can deliver a lot of pain to their people. If the thing about saving face is true there, they'll take us way farther down than we want to go.
6. Will Trump have to pay more Americans for their losses?
What does that add up to?
Quote: AZDuffmanNo, it was the brainchild of Bloomberg. We have been thru this. Only Republican mayor of NYC in modern times was Rudy.
Like Trump who really wasnt Republican Bloomberg ran on the Republican ticket.
His office was officially Republican during his tenure.
Denying that is revisionist regardless of whether his views were not up to conservative standards.
He ran Republican
His office (and any repercussions senatewise) were Republican
The record books list him as a Republican mayor.
Just man up and own it
(And most definitely he wasn't democrat lol)
Quote: darkozLike Trump who really wasnt Republican Bloomberg ran on the Republican ticket.
His office was officially Republican during his tenure.
Denying that is revisionist regardless of whether his views were not up to conservative standards.
He ran Republican
His office (and any repercussions senatewise) were Republican
The record books list him as a Republican mayor.
Just man up and own it
(And most definitely he wasn't democrat lol)
You keep saying Trump was a Democrat and is not really a Republican, doesn't that mean you and the other libs on here should support him? I mean, he was a Democrat so he must be supporting what you stand for?
Quote: AZDuffmanI see, so you will vote for a Tramp as long as there is a "D" next to her name.
Moral high ground? Someone who thinks bussing was a good idea and supports slavery reparations?
You do realize you could vote third party or just not vote at all if you like neither candidate?
You did (vote for a tramp). Why are you being all condescending and rude about this? Or is it news to you that your orange whore slept with #2 while married to#1, slept with #3 while married to #2, slept with at least 2 porn queens while #3 was pregnant?
John Barron must've been on vacay for you to have missed it.
You don't have a leg to stand on about this, trying to claim some moral high ground by proxy or whatever distortion you're pushing.
And no, for the record, being Mayor Willie's girlfriend for a time does not equal sleeping your way to the top. It's just a nasty deflection from how much more intelligent and experienced she is in goverment and management than Trump.
Quote: AZDuffmanYou keep saying Trump was a Democrat and is not really a Republican, doesn't that mean you and the other libs on here should support him? I mean, he was a Democrat so he must be supporting what you stand for?
I dont support a person just because they are democrat. They have to be right for office.
Its pretty telling you assume people dont vote for who is best for office and simply who is on their side of the aisle.
Trump got elected because many people not Republican voted for him. From people I come across many regret that.
Western puppets bodyguards caught selling arms. What a guy.
Quote: AZDuffmanNo, it was the brainchild of Bloomberg. We have been thru this. Only Republican mayor of NYC in modern times was Rudy.
Bloomberg originally wanted to ban the use of foodstamps on soda. Buy switching them over to tap water (actually drinkable in NYC, unlike Las Vegas), it would have reduced the burden on the rest of us to support them. National level politics stopped that from happening. He then wanted to tax soda, which would have made soda drinkers subsidize non-soda drinkers, which would have been something anyone in the city could have easily opted in to and benefited from -- all they would have to do is not drink soda. State level politics stopped him from doing that. Only after his two great ideas were stopped by outside politicians, did he offer his proposal to ban only the large sizes. And everyone flipped their lid
Soda ban was brought up in 2012, here are two articles from 2010 showing what Bloomberg really wanted: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/08/nyregion/08soda.html and https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/nyregion/07stamps.html
First the government spends billions of dollars subsidizing corn farmers, which makes HFCS (and thus soda) super cheap.
Then they want to tax the hell out of it and make it super expensive because it contains the very product they subsidized to begin with.
Bizzaroworld.
Quote: EvenBobHe hated the US with a
vengeance and LOVED Chavez.
Overuse hyperbole, go to jail.
Underuse snark, believe it or not, also jail.
Viva Chavez.
Quote: gamerfreakSoda tax is absolutely insane.
First the government spends billions of dollars subsidizing corn farmers, which makes HFCS (and thus soda) super cheap.
Then they want to tax the hell out of it and make it super expensive because it contains the very product they subsidized to begin with.
Bizzaroworld.
We tax alcohol, we tax cigarettes, we tax pornography, why not tax soda?
Quote: billryanWe tax alcohol, we tax cigarettes, we tax pornography, why not tax soda?
We already tax soda like everything else. Sales tax.
There is a special pornography tax? Im unaware of that
It probably makes too much sense, and will never happen.
(and no I don't mean regular taxes, taxes like cigs and alcohol)
Quote: beachbumbabsYou did (vote for a tramp). Why are you being all condescending and rude about this? Or is it news to you that your orange whore slept with #2 while married to#1, slept with #3 while married to #2, slept with at least 2 porn queens while #3 was pregnant?
We are not talking about who I voted for. I am asking a liberal who seems to be upset about Trump's personal life if he will still vote for a woman who tramped her way into her government life. Said liberal seems to have no problem with her sleeping around, but does with Trump.
Quote:And no, for the record, being Mayor Willie's girlfriend for a time does not equal sleeping your way to the top. It's just a nasty deflection from how much more intelligent and experienced she is in goverment and management than Trump.
It sure was sleeping her way in the door. She may have "experience in government" that Trump, big deal. She has nowhere near his management experience. 99% of the population does not have his management experience. In fact, best I can see, she has spent her life in the public sector, not a great thing for management experience. She has never once been responsible for a P&L statement. I'd rather someone who has been in the real world.
Quote: billryanWe tax alcohol, we tax cigarettes, we tax pornography, why not tax soda?
We have sales tax on it. The rest is just a money grab for no good reason.
Why do you want to be told how to live so bad?
As usual, one set of rules for themselves, another for the rest of us. And the lemmings joined a union, so they get to pay what, $10+ a week in dues!
I so needed a laugh to start my Friday!
Quote: TomGBloomberg originally wanted to ban the use of foodstamps on soda. Buy switching them over to tap water (actually drinkable in NYC, unlike Las Vegas), it would have reduced the burden on the rest of us to support them. National level politics stopped that from happening. He then wanted to tax soda, which would have made soda drinkers subsidize non-soda drinkers, which would have been something anyone in the city could have easily opted in to and benefited from -- all they would have to do is not drink soda. State level politics stopped him from doing that. Only after his two great ideas were stopped by outside politicians, did he offer his proposal to ban only the large sizes. And everyone flipped their lid
Soda ban was brought up in 2012, here are two articles from 2010 showing what Bloomberg really wanted: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/08/nyregion/08soda.html and https://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/nyregion/07stamps.html
As mayor, I do not see where he could force that kind of policy change on a federal program. I agree with switching it at the federal level. Make a simple test. Foods of little nutritional value would be excluded. All it would take is put a little symbol on a standard place on the label, say a "S" in a circle for approved (S=SNAP) and a "NS" (NON-SNAP). It can be put in the scanner as such, as has been done already for 30+ years (when I worked grocery.)
You had better believe people flipped their lid. It is massive government overreach. It is not the governments place to tell me how much flipping soda I can drink, or to tax me extra on it. FWIW, I do not understand what "soda drinkers subsidize non-soda drinkers" is supposed to even mean.
Guy has a subway system falling apart, hundreds of other problems, and he worries about what people are drinking?
Quote: AZDuffmanWe are not talking about who I voted for. I am asking a liberal who seems to be upset about Trump's personal life if he will still vote for a woman who tramped her way into her government life. Said liberal seems to have no problem with her sleeping around, but does with Trump.
It sure was sleeping her way in the door. She may have "experience in government" that Trump, big deal. She has nowhere near his management experience. 99% of the population does not have his management experience. In fact, best I can see, she has spent her life in the public sector, not a great thing for management experience. She has never once been responsible for a P&L statement. I'd rather someone who has been in the real world.
I'm in an odd situation. I'm on board with about half of the Trump policies, but I can't for the life of me understand why people voted for him.
What good is management experience if huge chunks of them involve major bankruptcies wherein your shareholders and employees got screwed? The Trumpster's "Art of the Deal" involves, in real life, generating 3500 lawsuits in 30 years, most of which involve either suing subcontractors for "substandard work" or flat out not paying subcontractors and forcing the smaller businesses to try to sue him. And, since this is a gambling site, does anyone know why Trump couldn't get a gaming license in Nevada?
Near as I can tell, Trump's major achievements are inheriting his father's money and helming a self-promoting reality show a la Paris Hilton.
As for the "Trump as villain" I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm not focused on his wandering eye. That's the least of it. It's the grade school bully persona and being ultra loose with facts, plus the weird obsession with holding self-promoting rallies for no compelling reason. The question is, since this is the behavior and persona you're proselytizing if you're a Trump supporter, how are you going to feel when your neighbors behave like Trump? Or your sons and daughters? Or grade school teachers? Do you really want a world populated with people wielding Trump personalities? Because that is what you are creating and promoting. It's on you.
I don't really care, myself. A world full of chubby loudmouth bullies with no evident expertise doesn't particularly frighten me. I don't have any children, so the absurdity is entertaining, not scary. I'm not gonna live forever, so I don't care about consequences much. Some people say that "chubby loudmouth bullies" describes the United States, anyway. But if you're a Bible toting evangelical, the idea that we're promoting Trump style as a way to behave has gotta at least give you pause.
Quote: redietzI'm in an odd situation. I'm on board with about half of the Trump policies, but I can't for the life of me understand why people voted for him.
What good is management experience if huge chunks of them involve major bankruptcies wherein your shareholders and employees got screwed? The Trumpster's "Art of the Deal" involves, in real life, generating 3500 lawsuits in 30 years, most of which involve either suing subcontractors for "substandard work" or flat out not paying subcontractors and forcing the smaller businesses to try to sue him. And, since this is a gambling site, does anyone know why Trump couldn't get a gaming license in Nevada?
Businesses succeed, businesses fail. Lawsuits happen. In the end the guy has great management experience. Lincoln went bankrupt. So did several other POTUSes. A good manager learns as much from his failures as his successes, maybe more.
Quote:As for the "Trump as villain" I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm not focused on his wandering eye. That's the least of it. It's the grade school bully persona and being ultra loose with facts, plus the weird obsession with holding self-promoting rallies for no compelling reason. The question is, since this is the behavior and persona you're proselytizing if you're a Trump supporter, how are you going to feel when your neighbors behave like Trump? Or your sons and daughters? Or grade school teachers? Do you really want a world populated with people wielding Trump personalities? Because that is what you are creating and promoting. It's on you.
It is all about keeping the energy up. Trump is about the highest energy personality of our time if not all time as far as POTUSes go. Bush41 let the energy die, look what happened. Bush43 let the energy die, look what happened. McCain, well, he would not have energy if you hooked him up to a 100 jigawatt nuclear reactor. Look what happened.
"Grade shchool bully?" I don't see it. I see him reacting to people who call names by calling them names. I see him calling out just awful behavior, unless one thinks equating Israel and nazis is proper behavior. I do not expect everyone to behave like him. But I do prefer everyone speak up against what we have seen too much of in the USA. Too many people who hate our culture and want to change it.
Quote: AZDuffmanWe are not talking about who I voted for. I am asking a liberal who seems to be upset about Trump's personal life if he will still vote for a woman who tramped her way into her government life. Said liberal seems to have no problem with her sleeping around, but does with Trump.
I hope you're not pretending that's what I said. Maybe you mean someone else. I consider the moral failings of Trump greater than Harris all around in several areas, that's why she gets my vote over Trump.
Quote: billryanWe tax alcohol, we tax cigarettes, we tax pornography, why not tax soda?
Regular sales tax is fine.
But do you really not see a problem with spending billions in tax dollars to subsidize corn, which makes soda cheaper than it should be, and then turning around and levying an extra tax on it because public health officials tell us we shouldn’t be drinking it?
In other words, they are using tax dollars to create an surplus in supply, and then on the other end trying to reduce demand with extra taxes.
Quote: gamerfreakRegular sales tax is fine.
But do you really not see a problem with spending billions in tax dollars to subsidize corn, which makes soda cheaper than it should be, and then turning around and levying an extra tax on it because public health officials tell us we shouldn’t be drinking it?
In other words, they are using tax dollars to create an surplus in supply, and then on the other end trying to reduce demand with extra taxes.
Government idiocracy at its finest,
Same as the gasoline tax. The greenie leftists pressure the government to increase mpg's in vehicles and subsidize electric vehicles then less gallons of fuel sold and less taxes to build and repair roads. Duh, didn't someone figure that was going to happen in the beginning?
Just asking for a friend. Any chance AMS is actually Mayor Pete in his spare time?
They certainly seem to have a lot in common including their thoughts on Trump Voters.
Quote: Bozhttps://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/19/pete-buttigieg-writes-off-donald-trump-supporters-as-committed-racists/
Just asking for a friend. Any chance AMS is actually Mayor Pete in his spare time?
They certainly seem to have a lot in common including their thoughts on Trump Voters.
Hmmm, sounds similar to Romney's "47%" comment. I wonder if the media will nail him for it the same way the went after Romney?
Quote: AZDuffmanHmmm, sounds similar to Romney's "47%" comment. I wonder if the media will nail him for it the same way the went after Romney?
I'm sure the Breitbarts and infozones will try.
Quote: beachbumbabsI'm sure the Breitbarts and infozones will try.
I'm sure it will get regurgitated here.
Quote: gamerfreakRegular sales tax is fine.
But do you really not see a problem with spending billions in tax dollars to subsidize corn, which makes soda cheaper than it should be, and then turning around and levying an extra tax on it because public health officials tell us we shouldn’t be drinking it?
In other words, they are using tax dollars to create an surplus in supply, and then on the other end trying to reduce demand with extra taxes.
Well, corn is used for way more than producing high fructose corn syrup,
and high fructose corn syrup has more uses than just soda.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-fructose_corn_syrup
They didn't have a breakdown by how much of each type is produced, but I found this interesting:
Quote:
The most common forms of HFCS used for food and beverage manufacturing contain fructose in either 42% ("HFCS 42") or 55% ("HFCS 55") amounts, as described in the US Code of Federal Regulations (21 CFR 184.1866).
HFCS 42 (≈42% fructose if water were removed) is used in beverages, processed foods, cereals, and baked goods.
HFCS 55 is mostly used in soft drinks.
HFCS 65 is used in soft drinks dispensed by Coca-Cola Freestyle machines.
HFCS 90 has some niche uses, but is mainly mixed with HFCS 42 to make HFCS 55.
He can't even take responsibility for the environment that HE HAS CREATED! He threw those folks in North Carolina under the bus! The question is, do they even realize it? lol If I was a deplorable at that rally, I'd be pretty pissed for making me look like a racist. Unless of course, I was a racist. I'm sure there were "very fine people" at that rally that weren't chanting send her back..../sarcasm
Alpha male? If by alpha male, you mean #whinylittlebitch, then yeah.
Anybody still supporting this man ought to be ashamed of themselves. "I didn't say it, they did." What a piece of s**t.
