2020 Election
Quote: beachbumbabs
Kasich is also talking about coming in.
That would be great if he got the
nomination. Great for Trump.
You either like Kasich, or you
really really don't like him. He's
not much of a go getter.
Quote: rxwineBill Weld, the other republican candidate.
Former Massachusetts' governor.
Weld previously was the 2016 Vice Presidential nominee of the Libertarian Party on the Gary Johnson ticket.
Weld has described himself as fiscally conservative, with goals of slashing spending and balancing the budget. For this reason, he has been described as a "classic conservative"
Weld has been strongly pro-choice for the entirety of his career.
Weld has been a consistent supporter of LGBT rights, and the right of same-sex marriage. He believes that this is a fundamental human right.
Trivia -Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s sole federal contribution on record went to Weld. Mueller wrote Weld two checks totaling $450 during Massachusetts’ 1996 U.S. Senate race, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
Sounds like my kind of guy
Will keep my eye on him.
Thanks
How much would you sell your vote for (the minimum amount it would take)? You have to vote for the person you hate the most / like the least.
How much would you pay to have someone vote how you want? (that's a zero for me)
We are going to assume it's legal for you and the other person.
Be honest, I wont believe outrageous numbers. It's easy to claim some morals when there isn't really any money being offered.
Quote: AxelWolfHow much would you sell your vote for (the minimum amount it would take)?
As much as I could get.
Quote: AxelHow much would you pay to have someone vote how you want.
Not a single Stanley nickel.
In that case, I might buy it just so I can resell it. I will put it up on Ebay.Quote: FaceAs much as I could get.
Not a single Stanley nickel.
Do I have to do anything, like get off my ass and go vote somewhere? Can I do it online?Quote: AxelWolfSerious question:
How much would you sell your vote for (the minimum amount it would take)? You have to vote for the person you hate the most / like the least.
How much would you pay to have someone vote how you want? (that's a zero for me)
We are going to assume it's legal for you and the other person.
Be honest, I wont believe outrageous numbers. It's easy to claim some morals when there isn't really any money being offered.
A vote should be worth as much as an opinion, imo.
Quote: AxelWolfSerious question:
How much would you sell your vote for (the minimum amount it would take)? You have to vote for the person you hate the most / like the least.
How much would you pay to have someone vote how you want? (that's a zero for me)
We are going to assume it's legal for you and the other person.
Be honest, I wont believe outrageous numbers. It's easy to claim some morals when there isn't really any money being offered.
As a serious question....
There is no price. My vote is freely given or withheld based on other criteria than dollars. It's also priceless, because it was paid for in blood by others before me.
Quote: AxelWolfSerious question:
How much would you sell your vote for (the minimum amount it would take)? You have to vote for the person you hate the most / like the least.
How much would you pay to have someone vote how you want? (that's a zero for me)
We are going to assume it's legal for you and the other person.
Be honest, I wont believe outrageous numbers. It's easy to claim some morals when there isn't really any money being offered.
I bet you could get a ton of votes if you offer menthols and the promise of free stuff (healthcare, college) to pretty much most people
"Heading to Indianapolis to speak at the big NRA Conference. Love being in Indiana. The @NRA is getting stronger & stronger and doing some really great and important work. Having their powerful support has been vital to #MAGA!"
WTF
Last I heard, NRA is broke and its all because of Trump. Donations are down to a trickle because people feel there guns are safe due to Trump
https://nypost.com/2018/08/03/nra-says-its-broke-and-on-the-verge-of-collapse/
Quote: terapined
WTF
Last I heard, NRA is broke and its all because of Trump. Donations are down to a trickle because people feel there guns are safe due to Trump
https://nypost.com/2018/08/03/nra-says-its-broke-and-on-the-verge-of-collapse/
Gunners are ditching NRA because they are no longer acting in our interest. Gunners who think they're "safe" because of Trumplethinskin aren't paying attention
We've moved to GOA. They actually fight. For us.
Quote: djatcI bet you could get a ton of votes if you offer menthols and the promise of free stuff (healthcare, college) to pretty much most people
And they sell cheap as they rarely get what they think they were selling for.
Really, your individual vote is pretty meaningless. People should not act otherwise.
That didn't take long. Beato
is such a loser, he looks like
every used car salesman from
the beginning of time.
Quote: EvenBobFormer Texas Rep. and current presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke had a small crowd for a campaign event at the University of Nevada Las Vegas on Friday. “Around 35 people here to see Beto O’Rourke at UNLV
That didn't take long. Beato
is such a loser, he looks like
every used car salesman from
the beginning of time.
35 people to see Beta on a Friday night? 35 people wilt less of a life than I ever had.
Quote: AxelWolfIn that case, I might buy it just so I can resell it. I will put it up on Ebay.
I should add that the "inconvenience fee" of having to leave the house will likely (certainly) raise the price well over its value. The vote I'd trade for a new Bic lighter. Standing in line with other townfolk runs at least a base fee of $20 plus $1.29 a minute.
Quote: beachbumbabsIt's also priceless, because it was paid for in blood by others before me.
Sweet of you to still honor those of the Revolutionary war =p
I can understand the concept. But... damn. It's a little like owning Excaliber itself, yet using it to slice bologna at the local Walmart deli, innit?
It's offensive. Having come of age in the era of G Dub, I'm proud to have never soiled my vote with the horses#$% that's been presented thus far. I don't vote for evil, lesser or not.
I was specifically thinking of you when I added this to my post.Quote: beachbumbabsAs a serious question....
There is no price. My vote is freely given or withheld based on other criteria than dollars. It's also priceless, because it was paid for in blood by others before me.
"Be honest, I wont believe outrageous numbers. It's easy to claim some morals when there isn't really any money being offered"
I don't believe it.
Quote: AxelWolfI was specifically thinking of you when I added this to my post.
"Be honest, I wont believe outrageous numbers. It's easy to claim some morals when there isn't really any money being offered"
I don't believe it.
I figured.
There is no. I say again, no, amount of money you could pay me to cast a vote for Trump. I'd sooner work the outhouse shift in Pahrump. It would be cleaner.
I say again, I absolutely do not believe it. I doubt most others do either.Quote: beachbumbabsI figured.
There is no. I say again, no, amount of money you could pay me to cast a vote for Trump. I'd sooner work the outhouse shift in Pahrump. It would be cleaner.
However, I do understand why you are so lenient on Trump haters. (-;
If someone whom babs trusted 100% went up to her as she was about to cast her vote and he said, "Here is a bag with $100k (or $1M) cash in it. You can inspect it and verify it's all there, no problems with it, etc. I'll give you the bag & cash if you vote for Trump" and she truly believed the person would give her the bag if she voted for Trump....then it's possible her answer would be different. Then again, maybe it is true that babs wouldn't vote for Trump for any amount of money.
I'm not saying babs is lying or anything like that, I think it's just a stupid question that you can't really answer honestly. It's more of a "You have to actually be presented with the situation, not a hypothetical" to answer it well.
As for me -- I really don't know. I won't say that I won't do it for any amount of money, but I think I'd definitely hesitate for anything less than $1k. But hey, if someone wants to put up a genuine offer for an amount they'd pay me to vote for Trump, I'd definitely consider taking the offer.
Quote: beachbumbabsIt's also priceless, because it was paid for in blood by others before me.
The old “They died so you can vote” crock.
They used to hammer that into our heads in grade school, to prepare us for war. Conditioning.
While tens of thousands of American troops fought and died in unnecessary wars, believing that BS, the pols allowed tens of millions of foreigners to invade the country and plunder what the dead left behind.
In a few years, they will all be legal and voting dem. Millions already are.
Making saps of all those conditioned dead and maimed soldiers.
Priceless? Once the dems do away with the electoral college, NYC and LA will rule. Nothing in between will count. Your vote won’t mean squat.
Quote: TankoThe old “They died so you can vote” crock.
Your vote won’t mean squat.
With all the PAC money and slick media manipulation, it pretty much doesn't mean squat now.
Quote: TankoThe old “They died so you can vote” crock.
They used to hammer that into our heads in grade school, to prepare us for war. Conditioning.
While tens of thousands of American troops fought and died in unnecessary wars, believing that BS, the pols allowed tens of millions of foreigners to invade the country and plunder what the dead left behind.
In a few years, they will all be legal and voting dem. Millions already are.
Making saps of all those conditioned dead and maimed soldiers.
Priceless? Once the dems do away with the electoral college, NYC and LA will rule. Nothing in between will count. Your vote won’t mean squat.
You are spot on! WWI, Korea, and Vietnam did not threaten our right to vote. Nor does Libya or Syria. Geopolitical importance, yes for some, no for others. Gotta be real about it.
Same people who say "they fought for your right to vote!" are against any law that insures a clean election, such as Voter ID, no same-day registration, etc. They want us on a path where they can load a few big cities up with as much voter fraud as needed when they abolish the EC. They are openly calling for packing SCOTUS because they cannot get their way there at will. They believe not liking POTUS is an impeachable offense.
Have to hope they fall apart before the USA does. But enjoy the next 50 years, for it will be the last 50 of the USA in current form.
Thanks in advance.
Quote: terapinedWow
Pretty shocked AOS just called me a racist
WTF
Boy has this thread turned into a cesspool
I don't want to see you suspended. Again, I'm not a conservative like AZ demanding suspensions here
Clean up your post, your office thread is gold, I want to keep reading :-)
You do know that "/s" means sarcasm, right?
Also, how do you get from my post that I am calling "you" a racist?
Quote: aceofspadesYou do know that "/s" means sarcasm, right?
I've never seen it written this way, fwiw. I've always seen the full word written out, as in [/sarcasm]. So I would be just as confused as terapined.
Quote: tringlomaneI've never seen it written this way, fwiw. I've always seen the full word written out, as in [/sarcasm]. So I would be just as confused as terapined.
I have never seen it written out in full like you stated
Six of one...
Quote: ams288Could all the righties who keep implying that your individual vote means nothing do us all a favor: put your money where your mouth is and not vote in 2020?
Thanks in advance.
https://www.bakersfield.com/news/bakersfield-killer-osuna-accused-of-beheading-torturing-cellmate/article_b0a26822-6874-11e9-9f99-9b0de04bdbf1.html
I have to vote to equal this guy out.
Quote: TankoThe old “They died so you can vote” crock.
They used to hammer that into our heads in grade school, to prepare us for war. Conditioning.
While tens of thousands of American troops fought and died in unnecessary wars, believing that BS, the pols allowed tens of millions of foreigners to invade the country and plunder what the dead left behind.
In a few years, they will all be legal and voting dem. Millions already are.
Making saps of all those conditioned dead and maimed soldiers.
Priceless? Once the dems do away with the electoral college, NYC and LA will rule. Nothing in between will count. Your vote won’t mean squat.
If that last paragraph comes true we can finally have some logical thinking in America
You are welcome to come move to NYC or LA and share your life witb mexicans and other immigrants
Quote: AZDuffmanYou are spot on! WWI, Korea, and Vietnam did not threaten our right to vote. Nor does Libya or Syria. Geopolitical importance, yes for some, no for others. Gotta be real about it.
Same people who say "they fought for your right to vote!" are against any law that insures a clean election, such as Voter ID, no same-day registration, etc. They want us on a path where they can load a few big cities up with as much voter fraud as needed when they abolish the EC. They are openly calling for packing SCOTUS because they cannot get their way there at will. They believe not liking POTUS is an impeachable offense.
Have to hope they fall apart before the USA does. But enjoy the next 50 years, for it will be the last 50 of the USA in current form.
The USA certainly isnt the same as it was 50 years ago.
Rioting, segregation, 3 channels on television.
And 60 years before that the USA was different
Women could not vote, 13 was average working age
And 60 years before that we had slavery
So if you are concerned we will not be the same country in 60 years
Yeah, I agree with you. I hope so. Cant imagine people in 2080 living the same as 2020
Quote: TankoThe old “They died so you can vote” crock.
They used to hammer that into our heads in grade school, to prepare us for war. Conditioning.
Quote: FleaStiffWith all the PAC money and slick media manipulation, it pretty much doesn't mean squat now.
/sigh. Relief. Thank you both, was starting to feel real lonely out here by me onesies.
We stopped fighting wars for freedom in 1945. Wars now of for economy; it's our greatest export. The war for freedom needs be fought right here. Ain't no Iraqi says I can't have 30rds. Ain't no Venezuelan that says I can't collect rainwater. Ain't no Honduran that says I can't grow my own medicine. Ain't no Paki stealing my money because I can't prove where it came from.
Open your bleeding eyes.
Most all of the bad news on the news has an American point of cause, almost all based on intended destabilization for economic control. Wake up. We ARE the bad guys. And even that smooth SOB Obama kept the bomb train rolling. As is Trump, as will whatever pile of s#$% they put in after Trump.
If I may bite the style of a fellow member and offer my favorite of his quotes, "Pick one". Either be the beacon of hope and progress we claim to be, or admit we're the calculating bully we really are. Just stop pissing in my face and telling me it's raining.
Quote: darkozYou are welcome to come move to NYC or LA and share your life witb mexicans and other immigrants
I've got >30 guns, TBI, I hate people and have rage issues.
See you on the elevator? =)
It's was a great question. I just wish that I made a bet on what BBB would say, I would have given some very nice odds to any potential sucker. Talk about lock of the century, ZK would have been very jellouse.Quote: RSI think part of it (and it goes both ways) is it's extremely difficult to come up with a figure as for what someone to pay you to alter your intended vote. It's easy to say "I'd do it for $5" if you don't care at all and it can also be easy to say "I wouldn't do it for any amount of money". But that's because it's just a discussion and the "reality" of it doesn't exist.
If someone whom babs trusted 100% went up to her as she was about to cast her vote and he said, "Here is a bag with $100k (or $1M) cash in it. You can inspect it and verify it's all there, no problems with it, etc. I'll give you the bag & cash if you vote for Trump" and she truly believed the person would give her the bag if she voted for Trump....then it's possible her answer would be different. Then again, maybe it is true that babs wouldn't vote for Trump for any amount of money.
I'm not saying babs is lying or anything like that, I think it's just a stupid question that you can't really answer honestly. It's more of a "You have to actually be presented with the situation, not a hypothetical" to answer it well.
As for me -- I really don't know. I won't say that I won't do it for any amount of money, but I think I'd definitely hesitate for anything less than $1k. But hey, if someone wants to put up a genuine offer for an amount they'd pay me to vote for Trump, I'd definitely consider taking the offer.
Why you trying to be tricky and get money for your locked in Trump Vote?
Quote: darkozThe USA certainly isnt the same as it was 50 years ago.
Rioting, segregation, 3 channels on television.
And 60 years before that the USA was different
Women could not vote, 13 was average working age
And 60 years before that we had slavery
So if you are concerned we will not be the same country in 60 years
Yeah, I agree with you. I hope so. Cant imagine people in 2080 living the same as 2020
I am saying the USA does not survive as a unified country for 50 more years. The fractures are not just political but social. Half or more of children born out of wedlock. West coast cities becoming third world with a super-rich upper class but at the same time record homeless. Exploding use of recreational drugs. 40% or so of the population unable to handle a $1,000 emergency.
It will only last until the USD is no longer the reserve currency. Then it is over. USA breaks into 5-6 smaller nations.
Quote: AZDuffman
It will only last until the USD is no longer the reserve currency. Then it is over. USA breaks into 5-6 smaller nations.
Dibs on the sticks!
Facetopia; Where the rules are made up and the pols don't matter. Featuring rdw4potus as Minister of Keepin' it Real.
Quote: AZDuffmanI am saying the USA does not survive as a unified country for 50 more years. The fractures are not just political but social. Half or more of children born out of wedlock. West coast cities becoming third world with a super-rich upper class but at the same time record homeless. Exploding use of recreational drugs. 40% or so of the population unable to handle a $1,000 emergency.
It will only last until the USD is no longer the reserve currency. Then it is over. USA breaks into 5-6 smaller nations.
Thats funny. Manhattan a 3rd world location
My image of 3rd world countries are a bunch of people farming the land, cows n pigs in mud, people bending over with tools to mow down wheat and/or arid dry lands where water is scarce and poor folk in cabins scrounge for daily sustenance and the nearest place for supplies is many miles away
In other words middle states of America
Quote: aceofspadesYou do know that "/s" means sarcasm, right?
Ha ha, You're funny. Ace just made
a joke. Libs have zero sense of humor,
as Rush has been pointing out for 30
years.
Quote: AZDuffmanThen it is over. USA breaks into 5-6 smaller nations.
Maybe, maybe not. After WWII, in Sci/Fi
books and stories, it was year 2000 and
the US was gone, poof. No way it would
last another 50 years. Hundreds of
different scenarios as to why. Wars been
over for almost 75 years and we're still
number one, thanks to Trump.
Quote: darkozIn other words middle states of America
LOL! Whatever, man. I was at Target yesterday
and 90% of the parking lot was SUV's. People
drove from 'miles away' in $45,000 chariots.
Pitiful..
Quote: AZDuffmanI am saying the USA does not survive as a unified country for 50 more years. The fractures are not just political but social. Half or more of children born out of wedlock. West coast cities becoming third world with a super-rich upper class but at the same time record homeless. Exploding use of recreational drugs. 40% or so of the population unable to handle a $1,000 emergency.
It will only last until the USD is no longer the reserve currency. Then it is over. USA breaks into 5-6 smaller nations.
Naw. Most people are much better than you imagine. We'll keep it together, get past this hysterical Trump nonsense, and listen to our better angels. All of us together are more than our singularity.
You can go start a new country somewhere if you like. I don't think America would miss your negativity much. It would die out in one generation, though, without any women (which you push so heavily so often). So good luck with that.
Quote: darkozThats funny. Manhattan a 3rd world location
My image of 3rd world countries are a bunch of people farming the land, cows n pigs in mud, people bending over with tools to mow down wheat and/or arid dry lands where water is scarce and poor folk in cabins scrounge for daily sustenance and the nearest place for supplies is many miles away
In other words middle states of America
https://nypost.com/2015/08/19/diplomats-vagrancy-in-nyc-worse-than-third-world-countries/
https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/anthony-bourdain-shanghai-makes-new-york-seem-like-a-3rd-world-country
http://time.com/5318/joe-biden-laguardia-airport/
Even Joe Biden agrees that NYC is 3rd world. Next you'll be trying to sell me that the smell of urine in the streets on a hot summer afternoon is a cultural experience.
on the The View, and the NYT described
him as 'bumbling and incoherent'. Bernie
is out there saying the Boston Bomber
should be allowed to vote from prison.
Even CNN is asking him, did you really
say that? Really?
Entertaining times we live in.
Quote: beachbumbabsNaw. Most people are much better than you imagine. We'll keep it together, get past this hysterical Trump nonsense, and listen to our better angels. All of us together are more than our singularity.
Really? We already have states openly making honoring treaties with other nations that the Feds pulled out of, also making their own immigration policy. We have the Calexit movement, even if it is not going big it is a start. We have perhaps 30% of the nation who do not at all even accept that Trump won fair and square. Some of them are as I have stated making not liking the POTUS grounds for impeachment. That does not even begin to address the plain flat out social collapse all over, the attempt to make a genderless society for just one.
Quote:You can go start a new country somewhere if you like. I don't think America would miss your negativity much. It would die out in one generation, though, without any women (which you push so heavily so often). So good luck with that.
Get me some pioneer manly men and some coastal area in Central America. We will build a new Singapore or Hong Kong. We will get the women from places where women want to be women and wives, not try to be men. They will flow in.
Quote: darkozThats funny. Manhattan a 3rd world location
My image of 3rd world countries are a bunch of people farming the land, cows n pigs in mud, people bending over with tools to mow down wheat and/or arid dry lands where water is scarce and poor folk in cabins scrounge for daily sustenance and the nearest place for supplies is many miles away
In other words middle states of America
You might want to update what Third World is. Much is urbanized, people living in shacks near the cities. San Francisco, Seattle, LA, and others are starting to look strangely like Brazil.
Quote: EvenBobMaybe, maybe not. After WWII, in Sci/Fi
books and stories, it was year 2000 and
the US was gone, poof. No way it would
last another 50 years. Hundreds of
different scenarios as to why. Wars been
over for almost 75 years and we're still
number one, thanks to Trump.
In 1979 the USSR was on the march and seemed unstopable all over the world. 13 years later the USSR ceased to be as a country. Not a shot was fired, well mostly. A skirmish here and there, but nobody thought it would happen the way it did.
Trump will hold it together for 6 more years. Chances are after him we do not get someone with near the command posture and presence as he has. IOW, not another alpha male. 2020s are going to be violent and societal changing, similar to the 1960s except no war driving it all. This time it will be different, probably racial, with the open hate for white history now on college campus spreading in many ways. Demographic change on this scale rarely is peaceful.
Quote: AZDuffmanTrump will hold it together for 6 more years. Chances are after him we do not get someone with near the command posture and presence as he has.
I'm just hoping the "Deep State" can continue to keep Trump semi-rational and at least partially in check for 2 more years until we have a new POTUS.
Deep State = people who know what they're doing and live in reality.
Or was that a dream I had last night?
Oh, well, it's as good as any fake news our President makes up, so I'm going with it being true.
Quote: rxwineI'm just hoping the "Deep State" can continue to keep Trump semi-rational and at least partially in check for 2 more years until we have a new POTUS.
Deep State = people who know what they're doing and live in reality.
Trump is so in reality that the deep state hates him so much.
People who deny thousands of attempted illegal border crossings is not an emergency do not live in reality.
Keep making your chains, when you make them yourself at least they will be comfortable.
Quote: EvenBobAnybody here paying attention? Biden was
on the The View, and the NYT described
him as 'bumbling and incoherent'. Bernie
is out there saying the Boston Bomber
should be allowed to vote from prison.
Even CNN is asking him, did you really
say that? Really?
Entertaining times we live in.
And Donald said this at his rally last night about abortion:
“The baby is born; the mother meets with the doctor. They take care of the baby. They wrap the baby beautifully. Then the doctor & mother determine whether or not they will execute the baby.”
What a f***ing psychopathic liar.
Quote: AZDuffmanYou might want to update what Third World is. Much is urbanized, people living in shacks near the cities. San Francisco, Seattle, LA, and others are starting to look strangely like Brazil.
Last time I was in LA (2 months ago) it did not resemble Brazil.
Some strange fantasy of yours. If it makes you feel better that left leaning cities are decaying (while bemoaning that its really you who is affected) go right ahead
Quote: darkozLast time I was in LA (2 months ago) it did not resemble Brazil.
Some strange fantasy of yours. If it makes you feel better that left leaning cities are decaying (while bemoaning that its really you who is affected) go right ahead
Perhaps you should google "LA Homeless." Or learn about the gang infested areas, where men are afraid to leave their blocks.
Brazil has nice areas like Brentwood, I am sure.
It does make me feel better that the most liberal cities tend to be the ones most in decay as it shows how liberalism is a failure. Detroit to LA, same results. Just CA has palm trees.
