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February 5th, 2019 at 9:29:53 AM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Could you list your complaints with her?

What I know of her is she is anti war. She has also supported strict gun control. She doesn't want us to invade Cuba and kill lots of innocent people. What do you have against her?


For starters, her family is involved in some pretty messed up organizations:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/politics/kfile-tulsi-gabbard-lgbt/index.html

Beyond that, she has a host of views I do not agree with, including gun control.
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February 5th, 2019 at 9:43:35 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

For starters, her family is involved in some pretty messed up organizations:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/politics/kfile-tulsi-gabbard-lgbt/index.html


Don't think that's much of an issue
People have changed and the times have changed
If you are against gay marriage now, that would be a problem
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February 5th, 2019 at 10:04:16 AM permalink
Quote: terapined

why
Doesn't concern me
Putin supporting Trump to be President, now that really concerns me



Yeah, I think you should go hide in the basement until that passes.😉
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February 5th, 2019 at 10:14:15 AM permalink
Quote: MaxPen

Yeah, I think you should go hide in the basement until that passes.😉



Oh I revel in it
Its just too funny how Putin has a president in his pocket
We live in very interesting times. Maybe a little too interesting lol
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February 5th, 2019 at 10:19:44 AM permalink
Quote: terapined


Its just too funny how Putin has a president in his pocket



Unfortunately for him that President is Trump. Just imagine how much damage he could do if it was somebody competent!
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February 5th, 2019 at 10:26:13 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Unfortunately for him that President is Trump. Just imagine how much damage he could do if it was somebody competent!



The last leak regarding a private Trump Putin meeting came out of Russia
I think Putin is sending signals with that leak
Putin is telling Trump they will leak more unless Trump does his bidding
Pretty sad conservatives ignore this
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February 5th, 2019 at 10:37:57 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

Do you realize that controversial people like David Duke feign support for the candidate they don’t want to win?



I didn't realize that, no. It's a smart tactic, but didn't he also come out in support of Trump awhile back? It seems odd that he'd do it in legitimate support of one candidate and fake it for another, but maybe he's that calculating, who knows.
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February 5th, 2019 at 11:39:58 AM permalink
Quote: gamerfreak

For starters, her family is involved in some pretty messed up organizations:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/13/politics/kfile-tulsi-gabbard-lgbt/index.html

Beyond that, she has a host of views I do not agree with, including gun control.

Did you watch the video and read the scrip that went with it? What a generalized hit piece by CNN. imo

She has an opinion when she was a teenager, that she as retracted many times, Read her record of support for gays since, and her record of serving two tours in Iraq where she solidified her stance on LBG after serving with them, and out from under her fathers umbrella. I too have changed some opinions since I gained life experiences of my own.

You paint her with the broadest brush possible of supporting gun control.

https://www.civilbeat.org/2018/03/tulsi-gabbards-record-on-gun-control-is-a-moving-target/

"Hawaii
Tulsi Gabbard’s Record On Gun Control Is A Moving Target
The Hawaii congresswoman talks tough on gun control but she’s often lagging behind Democratic colleagues in pushing firearms legislation.

"So it was surprising when Amber Tamblyn, a Hollywood actress who has become a leading voice in the Time’s Up movement, called out the congresswoman on Twitter for not signing on to an assault weapons ban supported by most of her Democratic colleagues and for taking campaign money from gun interests.




On Feb. 26, U.S. Rep. David Cicilline, of Rhode Island, introduced the Assault Weapons Ban of 2018 in response to the Parkland shooting. The bill had 164 original co-sponsors, all of them Democrats, including Hawaii Congresswoman Colleen Hanabusa, who is running for governor.

Gabbard was not among the group, which included nearly 85 percent of all Democrats in the House.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-11-gun-bills-tulsi-gabbard-wont-supportwhile_us_57635ad1e4b0092652d744e9

"Here are the other nine gun bills that Gabbard has NOT supported:



H.R.4748—Imported Assault Weapons Ban of 2016
H.R.3926 — Gun Violence Research Act
H.R.3411 — Fix Gun Checks Act of 2015
H.R.2380 — Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2015
H.R.1745 — Support Assault Firearms Elimination and Reduction for our Streets Act
H.R.752 — Large Capacity Ammunition Feeding Device Act
H.R.226 — Keeping Guns from High Risk Individuals Act
H.R.225 — Firearm Safety Act of 2015
H.R.224 — To require the Surgeon General of the Public Health Service to submit to Congress an annual report on the effects of gun violence on public health."

I did read where she supported a ban on bump stocks and some other anti assault weapon additives. She at least served in Iraq for two tours so she does know what an assault weapon is. She had to put her political career on hold to volunteer for those tours.

AND,,,,I am not a democrat or Republican, I just have seen some things where I think she is the most reasonable of the democrats. But she will be banned because she doesn't support the MIC.
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February 5th, 2019 at 12:33:38 PM permalink
Looks like a brokered Democratic convention. Hillary is lining up Super Delegates.
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February 5th, 2019 at 1:09:53 PM permalink
Quote: jackmagic777

Looks like a brokered Democratic convention. Hillary is lining up Super Delegates.



Quote: jackmagic777

Please refrain from confusing the issue with facts. Facts are not welcome if they not agree with a bias.



WTF
You want facts but push fake news
ROTFL
Are there 2 jackmagic777's
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February 5th, 2019 at 1:30:59 PM permalink
Alfred E. Neuman for President
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February 5th, 2019 at 1:41:21 PM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Alfred E. Neuman for President



Better than whatever we’ve got now...
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February 5th, 2019 at 2:06:31 PM permalink
Crooked Hillary's health will not allow her to campaign for the nomination. Instead her cohorts are encouraging every wacko to enter the campaign. A brokered convention is her chance. Don't forget she won the popular vote
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February 5th, 2019 at 2:06:36 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

Better than whatever we’ve got now...



My car bumper sticker
"ANY FUNCTIONING ADULT 2020"
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February 5th, 2019 at 3:04:11 PM permalink
I won't be able to help but laugh if Trump wins in 2020.
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February 5th, 2019 at 3:09:52 PM permalink
Quote: jackmagic777

Crooked Hillary's health will not allow her to campaign for the nomination.



Quote: jackmagic777

Please refrain from confusing the issue with facts. Facts are not welcome if they not agree with a bias.



Please refrain from confusing the nomination with facts. Facts are not welcome to jackmagic777. If the facts don't agree with his conservative bias, he makes up fake news such as Clintons health
Jackmagic is a hoot, he demands facts from the left and pushes fake news from the right
Keep it up jack :-)
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February 5th, 2019 at 3:29:36 PM permalink
Why would HILLARY not campaign except for poor health ??? Surely the Democrats have not abandoned her, the most qualified Presidental candidate ever. Or did the
Kool Aid dissipate that fast ?
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February 5th, 2019 at 3:46:09 PM permalink
Quote: jackmagic777

Why would HILLARY not campaign except for poor health ???


a lot of reasons. Why do you push fake news yet demand facts from the left
Quote: jackmagic777


Surely the Democrats have not abandoned her


They have
Quote: jackmagic777


the most qualified Presidental candidate ever.


If that's your view, go with it :-)
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February 5th, 2019 at 4:35:48 PM permalink
Quote: jackmagic777

the most qualified Presidental candidate ever. ?



And she'll go right to the top
of the heap when she announces
in June.
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February 5th, 2019 at 4:54:16 PM permalink
It just came out that Fauxcahontas wrote
'Native American' for her race on a gov't
form in 1986. So she lied when she said
she's never claimed to be an Indian in
any place where it would have gotten
her preferential treatment. Liar liar
teepee on fire..
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February 5th, 2019 at 5:04:37 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It just came out that Fauxcahontas wrote
'Native American' for her race on a gov't
form in 1986. So she lied when she said
she's never claimed to be an Indian in
any place where it would have gotten
her preferential treatment. Liar liar
teepee on fire..



What exactly do you have against liars? Your avatar is staring yourself in the face.
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February 5th, 2019 at 6:02:52 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It just came out that Fauxcahontas wrote
'Native American' for her race on a gov't
form in 1986. So she lied when she said
she's never claimed to be an Indian in
any place where it would have gotten
her preferential treatment. Liar liar
teepee on fire..



Holy crap! The Native American debacle was in 1986? That was 32 years ago! They drag her through the mud for claiming that in 1986? Nowadays? Sad and lame. I honestly thought the debacle happened really received like 2017! SMH!
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February 5th, 2019 at 6:18:45 PM permalink
Elizabeth Warren identified herself as American Indian on her State of Texas bar association registration

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-apologizes-for-calling-herself-native-american/2019/02/05/1627df76-2962-11e9-984d-9b8fba003e81_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.412112f9087e


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February 5th, 2019 at 6:20:32 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Elizabeth Warren identified herself as American Indian on her State of Texas bar association registration



LOCK HER UP?
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February 5th, 2019 at 6:38:19 PM permalink
Quote: ams288

LOCK HER UP?



Lying on a state bar registration is highly unethical and could get someone disbarred - but, I do not know if it is a crime to do so in Texas
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February 5th, 2019 at 6:41:45 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

Elizabeth Warren identified herself as American Indian on her State of Texas bar association registration

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/elizabeth-warren-apologizes-for-calling-herself-native-american/2019/02/05/1627df76-2962-11e9-984d-9b8fba003e81_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.412112f9087e




Once again, that was in 1986! Why are people still dragging her through the mud for that!
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February 5th, 2019 at 6:43:55 PM permalink
Sounds like an October surprise that got pushed up 20 months. Thanks WaPo!
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February 5th, 2019 at 6:54:25 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Holy crap! The Native American debacle was in 1986? That was 32 years ago! They drag her through the mud for claiming that in 1986? Nowadays? Sad and lame. I honestly thought the debacle happened really received like 2017! SMH!


She made statements much more recently pretending to be an Indian. But she was also pretending way back in the 1900's, too.
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February 5th, 2019 at 7:13:09 PM permalink
So we have Kamala who got where she
is by laying on her back and counting
ceiling squares, Fauxcahontas who got
break after break claiming to be a
Native American, and Joe Biden who
plagiarized his way thru college.

What next, BeeToe has to have some
zingers in his past. We learned at
the Kavanaugh hearings that going
back as far as grade school is fair game.
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February 5th, 2019 at 7:15:50 PM permalink
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So we have Kamala who got where she
is by laying on her back and counting
ceiling squares



I don’t think this is as strong as an argument against her as you righties think it is.

And I KNOW that Donald J Trump, sexual predator, is the wrong person to make this argument in an election. I can think of at least 130,000 reasons why...
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February 5th, 2019 at 7:36:36 PM permalink
It matters because she was also Putin's mistress in return for him promising to fix the 2020 election.
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February 5th, 2019 at 7:39:32 PM permalink
I meant ti listen to just a few
minutes of Trump and ended
up seeing all of it. He could
read the phone book and make
it sound interesting. I'd be
quaking in my boots if I was
running against this guy. He
has true gravitas and charisma..
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February 5th, 2019 at 8:06:00 PM permalink
Trump only takes a couple days (if not sooner) to effectively polarize any kind of positive message he creates. He's become so predictable.
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February 5th, 2019 at 8:53:35 PM permalink
Excellent SOTU delivered by Trump.

It can't be too long before there's some fake news out there to enrage the left over some nonsense. Mueller investigation fake news, Covington kids, Jussie Smollett, what's coming next? There'll probably be something by end of this week that's released, it'll be #HugeIfTrue, a few days later it'll become confirmed fake/hoax, and life will go on. You heard it here first.
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February 5th, 2019 at 8:56:46 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I meant ti listen to just a few
minutes of Trump and ended
up seeing all of it. He could
read the phone book and make
it sound interesting. I'd be
quaking in my boots if I was
running against this guy. He
has true gravitas and charisma..



He even had that section of Democrats dressed in their white robes clapping and glad handing each other. I'm glad their hoods stayed tucked away so I could see their ear to ear smiles.
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February 5th, 2019 at 9:57:11 PM permalink
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Lying on a state bar registration is highly unethical and could get someone disbarred - but, I do not know if it is a crime to do so in Texas



#StolenHeritage
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February 6th, 2019 at 4:27:20 AM permalink
My favorite part of the speech was when he talked about the record number of women working in America today and all the newly elected Dem congresswomen stood up laughing and cheering. It's true, they never would have gotten those jobs if Hillary were President!
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February 6th, 2019 at 5:06:27 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

My favorite part of the speech was when he talked about the record number of women working in America today and all the newly elected Dem congresswomen stood up laughing and cheering. It's true, they never would have gotten those jobs if Hillary were President!



It was a good moment for Trump. It was a good moment for the women in white. The expected happened in the mid-term and it could have been much worse for the President. Instead of electing male Democrats, female Democrats ran in bigger numbers and won. It isn't like Democrats would not have won the House anyway. Had Hillary been elected, the House might not have changed hands and some of the Republicans that did not run may have also been replaced by women. It was a good moment for women.

That kind of reaction was anticipated and desired--it was an opportunity to include them in the speech.
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February 6th, 2019 at 5:12:22 AM permalink
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Had Hillary been elected, the House might not have changed hands and some of the Republicans that did not run may have also been replaced by women.



Had Hillary won, the House WOULD NOT have changed hands. Not "might."

And the GOP would likely have 60 senate seats right now had she won.

Gotta look at those silver linings...
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February 6th, 2019 at 5:24:54 AM permalink
Quote: ams288

Had Hillary won, the House WOULD NOT have changed hands. Not "might."

And the GOP would likely have 60 senate seats right now had she won.

Gotta look at those silver linings...



Actually, I'm not certain that it will be the "silver lining" that you hope it will be...Trump is a horrible politician, so he could screw it all up, but obstruction of good legislation, investigations (some needed, but you can go overboard...as some did when the Republicans were in power), a prolonged and nasty campaign for the Democrat nomination, etc. could put the President in the driver's seat for reelection and even winning back the House and holding the Senate.

I don't think the Democrats need to "give in" and let him have his way, but they do need to look like they are trying to get things done. They need to handle the investigations that they feel are necessary deftly and not let them be the only noise in the room...especially if they find little to hang their hats on.

Politicians too often just do the same thing the other side did in their own way...no, they aren't the "same" but they really aren't as different in "actions" as they are in "policy"....
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February 6th, 2019 at 6:01:31 AM permalink
It just hit me that with election next year, we will be in for one hell of a ride this year and most of next year.Buckle down and brace for a wild ride election wise this year and most of next year. O.O
Last edited by: Nathan on Feb 6, 2019
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February 6th, 2019 at 8:31:28 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

It just came out that Fauxcahontas wrote
'Native American' for her race on a gov't
form in 1986. So she lied when she said
she's never claimed to be an Indian in
any place where it would have gotten
her preferential treatment. Liar liar
teepee on fire..



Bless your heart...
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February 6th, 2019 at 8:35:13 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

I meant ti listen to just a few
minutes of Trump and ended
up seeing all of it. He could
read the phone book and make
it sound interesting. I'd be
quaking in my boots if I was
running against this guy. He
has true gravitas and charisma..



Your sarcastic posts are usually pretty low energy but I'll admit, this one was pretty good.
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February 6th, 2019 at 9:01:40 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Your sarcastic posts

A perfect example of "the pot calling the kettle black".

Quote:

are usually pretty low energy but I'll admit, this one was pretty good.

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February 6th, 2019 at 9:26:24 AM permalink
Quote: Fleaswatter

A perfect example of "the pot calling the kettle black".



lol...

Birds of a feather, I see.
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February 6th, 2019 at 9:56:02 AM permalink
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It just hit me that with literally one year left before reelection, we will be in for one hell of a ride this year. Buckle down and brace for a wild ride election wise this year!



Cable news is going to be absolutely insufferable for the next two years.
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February 6th, 2019 at 10:21:04 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Cable news is going to be absolutely insufferable for the next two years.



Cable news has been pretty insufferable since Trump threw his hat into the ring, imo. But i'm sure it will get worse.
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February 6th, 2019 at 10:34:05 AM permalink
Quote: TigerWu

Cable news is going to be absolutely insufferable for the next two years.



If Trump wins reelection get ready for a wild SIX YEAR RIDE! O.O
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February 6th, 2019 at 10:40:15 AM permalink
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Cable news has been pretty insufferable since Trump threw his hat into the ring, imo. But i'm sure it will get worse.




All the investigations still have to be resolved. Including the ones being made in New York. Trump should have quite a few people to pardon by then.
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February 6th, 2019 at 10:45:32 AM permalink
Quote: rxwine

All the investigations still have to be resolved. Including the ones being made in New York. Trump should have quite a few people to pardon by then.



Its a shame the prez can't pardon state crimes. What's the fun in being an oligarch if you can't take care of your besties?
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