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I am trying to convince my wife to go to prison so she can get the medicine she needs.
Quote: FaceJust 44 million of us.
Nope. Not a chance. There is NO WAY you would pay for that drug. You would take a similar one, available generic, that might cost $30 a month. Some even less.
Quote: DRichI currently have six prescriptions and are taking none of them. Life is a gamble and I am a gambler.
Naw, I'm starting to think you're 30 and a fitness coach. Either that, or you're being transfused with the blood of newborns.
Quote: rxwineNaw, I'm starting to think you're 30 and a fitness coach. Either that, or you're being transfused with the blood of newborns.
Clearly you have never met me or seen me. I am a 53 year old going on 75 year old who is generally in poor health and has had 23 surgeries.
Quote: SOOPOONope. Not a chance. There is NO WAY you would pay for that drug.
Exactly.
Keep going. You're almost there...
Gee, lets see now. Double your risk of foot amputation, increase your risk of genital gangrene AND pay a grand a month to do it!Quote: SOOPOOI am wondering if there is ANYONE paying that for the particular prescription? (Invokana)
Not many.
Quote: DRichClearly you have never met me or seen me. I am a 53 year old going on 75 year old who is generally in poor health and has had 23 surgeries.
Good thing for you that diet
and nutrition have nothing
to do with health.
I have had jalapeno peppers, garlic, .... that is about as daring as I would want to get. no speed meth or crack, no heroin,.Quote: AxelWolfI mentioned crack another thread. It got me curious, how many here have actually tried crack or meth?
Did let a cat urinate into a drug-resistant diabetic ulcer which promptly healed.
🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️Quote: FleaStiff
Did let a cat urinate into a drug-resistant diabetic ulcer which promptly healed.
I am really quite a conservative guy. Short hair, not a druggie. My only adventure with LSD was in a burger bar where someone spiked the ketchup which in those days was not served in individual packets.Quote: AxelWolf🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
I don't understand murder. How can someone be so angry to do that especially when you know the consequences. On news a guy killed his 86 year old mother. Now he spends life in jail for killing someone whom probably had 5 years left to live.
Quote: AxelWolfI mentioned crack another thread. It got me curious, how many here have actually tried crack or meth?
I’ve never done no crack and never done meth on purpose. I’m like relatively sure that I had gotten some ecstasy that had more meth in it than they should have had. Idk if it was meth or something else. Tbh I don’t remember how all that stuff works anymore and I could’a been gotten #FakeNews’d by my friends. Most likely scenario I think is it had a little bit in there and with a combination of me being a young boy with lots of energy... I was up for a about 3 full days, pretty fun overall. Unfortunately back in those days there was no way to check beforehand or even after the fact, now they have all these fancy drug tests and whatnot you can buy at WALGREENS.
Not sure if I recommend it but (and assuming you don’t get addicted to it) probably worth the experience. I have absolutely no interest in doing any of that crap now though.
it is the same impulse as suddenly plunking down a massive bet on Seven at the roulette wheel, its consequences may vary, but is the same impulsive action.Quote: GWAEI don't understand murder.
I am getting a kick out of what GWAE emphasized, so this scenario popped up in my mind ...Quote: GWAEI don't understand murder. How can someone be so angry to do that especially when you know the consequences. On news a guy killed his 86 year old mother. Now he spends life in jail for killing someone whom probably had 5 years left to live.
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A guy talking about the news: a man killed an 86 yr old woman!
GWAE: terrible, terrible, terrible!
Guy: and it was his mother!
GWAE: Meh.
Just having some fun with you, no worries
Quote: odiousgambitI am getting a kick out of what GWAE emphasized, so this scenario popped up in my mind ...
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A guy talking about the news: a man killed an 86 yr old woman!
GWAE: terrible, terrible, terrible!
Guy: and it was his mother!
GWAE: Meh.
Just having some fun with you, no worries
haha I was trying to say it was an old person. Why spend 40 years in jail when the person you kill only has 5 years left to live.
Quote: GWAEAhhh dont you hate waking up at 445am and are wide awake. I layed in bed for 20 minutes trying to do back to sleep but I failed.
Some of us wake up before that everyday, even on the weekends. You are a young man and business owner, shouldn't you be in the office by 5am? Back when I was a young man I was in the office by 5am every morning even when I worked for others. When you are young you should be working 14 hour days. That still leaves you 10 hours to be with your family and sleep.
Quote: FleaStiffno one really trusts or respects workers who put in that many extra hours.
The bosses do and that is all that really matters since they are the ones that give raises and bonuses. I don't care what some peon in a cubicle thinks as he wills always be in the cubicle and I will be in an executive office.
Quote: DRichSome of us wake up before that everyday, even on the weekends. You are a young man and business owner, shouldn't you be in the office by 5am? Back when I was a young man I was in the office by 5am every morning even when I worked for others. When you are young you should be working 14 hour days. That still leaves you 10 hours to be with your family and sleep.
Could you write code effectively for 14 hours straight?
I don’t think many devs could, I certainly can’t.
John Carmack, who’s probably one of the more brilliant programmer of our time, was just on Joe Rogan podcast and said his upper limit is 10 hours.
That's for sure.Quote: mcallister3200Can’t live much if you’re flat broke.
I fired a guy this week that I thought had a legit shot at a leadership position. He walked in at 910 and swore I told him to be there at 9, not 830 like everyone else showed up. By 11 he had taken three long smoke breaks and was asking if I paid for their lunches. At 1215 I tell them to break but be back at work by 1PM. He comes back at 110, announces he is hitting the head to make some donuts and grabbed a $60 book off the shelf to read. I took the book, told him this wasn't going to work out , paid him $60 which is far more than he deserved and he was gone.
He's got the resume down, and the interview was pretty good, it's the work part that is lacking.
»You ruined my life. There, this is the receipt. »Quote: GWAEI don't understand murder. How can someone be so angry to do that especially when you know the consequences. On news a guy killed his 86 year old mother. Now he spends life in jail for killing someone whom probably had 5 years left to live.
With an 86y-old mother, he must be around 50-60. He does not spend ‘life’ in prison, just the sorry years remaining.
Anger is precisely the type of emotion where you act not think. Like fear or love.
Crowley was, by all accounts, a no good punk. Just over 5 foot and weighing maybe 110 pounds, he fought often, never clean and by 16 was carrying a gun and expressing a hatred of police. When he and his friends were ejected from an American Legion dance, he returned and shot several members. Over the next few weeks, he got increasingly violent and when a Nassau County cop asked him for id on a routine stop, he shot him in the face, killing him instantly. In the next few days, he is said to have been involved in as many as a dozen shootouts with police, leaving one dead and several wounded. A girlfriend ended up dead during this time but he may not have done that one.
When a tip came in that he was at his girlfriends 5th floor apartment, the NYPD dispatched all three of its riot squads, approx. 150 riot police and another 50 for crowd control. When Crowley saw the cops outside the building, he broke out the windows and opened fire on the cops, wounding several. For the next several hours, Crowley fired hundreds of round, taunting the cops and screaming- You'll never take me alive, Coppers, and was answered by tens of thousands of rounds. Reporters estimated as many as 100 cops with machine guns were blasting away at the windows, providing cover for others to gain the roof and try to lob tear gas into the apartment. Newspaper reports say as many as 15,000 New Yorkers gathered to watch the gun battle. Another couple of hundred cops were brought in for crowd control, but the official records are very sketchy on the whole incident.
While blasting away from his window, he took the time to write a letter saying he was misunderstood and if you strip away the grime you'll find a man with a good heart.
Brought to trial just three weeks later, he was sentenced to death.
His last words were- this is what I get for defending myself. He was 20 when he was executed.
The Jimmy Cagney character in White Heat was based on him.
Quote: billryanI grow to disdain employees who show up right on time, then spend twenty minutes getting ready to work, and then start to knock off at 4:40 for a 5PM day.
I fired a guy this week that I thought had a legit shot at a leadership position. He walked in at 910 and swore I told him to be there at 9, not 830 like everyone else showed up. By 11 he had taken three long smoke breaks and was asking if I paid for their lunches. At 1215 I tell them to break but be back at work by 1PM. He comes back at 110, announces he is hitting the head to make some donuts and grabbed a $60 book off the shelf to read. I took the book, told him this wasn't going to work out , paid him $60 which is far more than he deserved and he was gone.
He's got the resume down, and the interview was pretty good, it's the work part that is lacking.
You probably did him a favor. If he correctly knows why he was fired.
Quote: gamerfreakCould you write code effectively for 14 hours straight?
I would say that I used to but probably today the productivity would be waning. I used to write code for days on end without sleeping and eating.
Quote: billryanWas doing some research on a few items up for auction and came across a reference to a guy named Two Gun Crowley and how he sparked the biggest manhunt and shootout in NYC history.
Crowley was, by all accounts, a no good punk. Just over 5 foot and weighing maybe 110 pounds, he fought often, never clean and by 16 was carrying a gun and expressing a hatred of police. When he and his friends were ejected from an American Legion dance, he returned and shot several members. Over the next few weeks, he got increasingly violent and when a Nassau County cop asked him for id on a routine stop, he shot him in the face, killing him instantly. In the next few days, he is said to have been involved in as many as a dozen shootouts with police, leaving one dead and several wounded. A girlfriend ended up dead during this time but he may not have done that one.
When a tip came in that he was at his girlfriends 5th floor apartment, the NYPD dispatched all three of its riot squads, approx. 150 riot police and another 50 for crowd control. When Crowley saw the cops outside the building, he broke out the windows and opened fire on the cops, wounding several. For the next several hours, Crowley fired hundreds of round, taunting the cops and screaming- You'll never take me alive, Coppers, and was answered by tens of thousands of rounds. Reporters estimated as many as 100 cops with machine guns were blasting away at the windows, providing cover for others to gain the roof and try to lob tear gas into the apartment. Newspaper reports say as many as 15,000 New Yorkers gathered to watch the gun battle. Another couple of hundred cops were brought in for crowd control, but the official records are very sketchy on the whole incident.
While blasting away from his window, he took the time to write a letter saying he was misunderstood and if you strip away the grime you'll find a man with a good heart.
Brought to trial just three weeks later, he was sentenced to death.
His last words were- this is what I get for defending myself. He was 20 when he was executed.
The Jimmy Cagney character in White Heat was based on him.
Cool story. I love true crime, for whatever reason.
I recently watched the interrogation of Chris Watts, a man who killed his pregnant wife and two little girls because he wanted to run off with his side piece. There was one point in the interview where he became really upset. It was when they raised the possibility of involving his co-workers. He was afraid because they had previously thought of him as a good guy and now they might look down on him. His dead daughters didn't really bother him, but that made him shake and almost cry.
The guy who made the youtube pointed out that this is extreme narcissism. Total indifference to the well being of everyone but himself, yet simultaneously being consumed with what others think of him. Of course, the reason I thought of this is your guy stopping to write the letter about how he is misunderstood and actually a good guy, as well as his claim that he was the real victim, merely defending himself.
Another commonality: guys like this have no problem getting women. I'd wager both received letters from would be groupies while locked up.
Quote: billryanI grow to disdain employees who show up right on time, then spend twenty minutes getting ready to work, and then start to knock off at 4:40 for a 5PM day.
I fired a guy this week that I thought had a legit shot at a leadership position. He walked in at 910 and swore I told him to be there at 9, not 830 like everyone else showed up. By 11 he had taken three long smoke breaks and was asking if I paid for their lunches. At 1215 I tell them to break but be back at work by 1PM. He comes back at 110, announces he is hitting the head to make some donuts and grabbed a $60 book off the shelf to read. I took the book, told him this wasn't going to work out , paid him $60 which is far more than he deserved and he was gone.
He's got the resume down, and the interview was pretty good, it's the work part that is lacking.
he sounds like a professional slacker and smart butt. You dealt with it right.
Quote: RigondeauxCool story. I love true crime, for whatever reason.
I recently watched the interrogation of Chris Watts, a man who killed his pregnant wife and two little girls because he wanted to run off with his side piece. There was one point in the interview where he became really upset. It was when they raised the possibility of involving his co-workers. He was afraid because they had previously thought of him as a good guy and now they might look down on him. His dead daughters didn't really bother him, but that made him shake and almost cry.
The guy who made the youtube pointed out that this is extreme narcissism. Total indifference to the well being of everyone but himself, yet simultaneously being consumed with what others think of him. Of course, the reason I thought of this is your guy stopping to write the letter about how he is misunderstood and actually a good guy, as well as his claim that he was the real victim, merely defending himself.
Another commonality: guys like this have no problem getting women. I'd wager both received letters from would be groupies while locked up.
I've seen another interrogation video. The detectives are very skilled.
Quote: billryan
I fired a guy this week that I thought had a legit shot at a leadership position.
At 1215 I tell them to break but be back at work by 1PM. He comes back at 110,
I had an accident at a place
of business and was injured
in 1996. As a part of the lawsuit
my lawyer advised I get a
shrink for a while to evaluate
me. This guy was the tardiest
person I've ever met.
If I had a 2pm app, I was lucky
to see him by 3:15. Several
times I was his first person
after lunch at 1 pm and he
would come breezing in at
1:45 with nary an apology.
I finally told him he was one
of rudest professionals I'd
ever known. An appointment is
an unwritten contract, not a
vague agreement where you
kept the other person cooling
their heels because you refuse
to honor your end of the deal.
I had found out he was always
behind because he was always
late getting to the office in the
morning, sometimes an hour
late. This put him behind all
day.
One time I waited an hour and
he never showed up, so I went
down to the street to where
I knew he ate lunch and there
he was yucking it up with a
pal over beer and sandwiches.
I totally embarrassed him in a
public place, calling him rude,
selfish and irresponsible. It was
great, he was red in the face
humiliated. I never went back.
Quote: jjjoooggg
I've seen another interrogation video. The detectives are very skilled.
It's not that they have Sherlock
Holmes skills, it's they have seen
many times how innocent people
react is these situations and when
you aren't reacting that way, red
flags go up. This guy is acting
like he misplaced his cell phone,
not his wife and kids. He's not
upset in the least.
I just saw a hiking video where
a hiker lost track of his GF for a day
on the trail and he was a nervous
wreck. The polar opposite of the
guy in this video.
Quote: EvenBobIt's not that they have Sherlock
Holmes skills, it's they have seen
many times how innocent people
react is these situations and when
you aren't reacting that way, red
flags go up. This guy is acting
like he misplaced his cell phone,
not his wife and kids. He's not
upset in the least.
I just saw a hiking video where
a hiker lost track of his GF for a day
on the trail and he was a nervous
wreck. The polar opposite of the
guy in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJZv3z7FOt0&t=3250s
watch this and tell me what you think?
Quote: jjjoooggghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJZv3z7FOt0&t=3250s
watch this and tell me what you think?
An hour and 7 min? Yeah, no...
Quote: rxwineSomeone has been shooting burros along 1-15, They've found 42 dead since May. There's an ongoing investigation. There's a $10,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction.
Aw, that's awful. I hope someone gets their karma really bad. Piece of crap.
Rewards are much higher and it is believed there are multiple shooters.Quote: bobbartopAw, that's awful. I hope someone gets their karma really bad. Piece of crap.
That was a well planned interrogation and I recall that the one thing that really started the truth coming out was the police threat to go onto the base at morning formation and arrest him in full view of the entire command. This once again showed more concern for what others thought of him than for any actual feelings of guilt or remorse.Quote: jjjooogggwatch this and tell me what you think?
Most criminals consider their actions proper and only regret getting caught.
Quote: FleaStiffMost criminals consider their actions proper and only regret getting caught.
That.s stretching it a bit. Some feel
that way, but most know it's improper
and do it anyway. The true sociopaths
have no regrets, but common criminals
are often victims of drug abuse and
have lots of regrets.
they spent the money and got arrested - charged with a felony
IMO what they did was stupid and they should have something on their record - but I don't believe they should go to jail for this
the bank effed up and caused them to be tempted - people shouldn't go to jail for doing something stupid that didn't hurt anybody -
https://beta.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2019/09/08/bank-accidentally-deposited-couples-account-they-spent-most-it-then-got-charged-with-theft/?noredirect=on
Quote: lilredroostera couple had $120K mistakenly put into their bank account
they spent the money and got arrested - charged with a felony
The IRS sent me a check 25 years
ago for $5K for no reason and my tax
guy said cash it and worry about
it later. The next year I got a
letter saying I was overpaid and
I had to pay it back. I set up
a payment program and never
made any payments just to see
what would happen.
Got a letter a couple years later
saying to call a number. Got a
lady who said just claim it as
income on my next return and
pay taxes on it. I was dumbfounded
that I didn't have to pay it back.
She was nice and we both started
laughing about it. She said if it's
an IRS mistake they can't really
make you pay it back.
I never claimed it on my taxes
and never heard from them again.
For one of my previous jobs, I had made sure during interviews that the horary schedules were flexible, since I am not a clock freak and the job was research. We agreed that I did not shy away of working hours after the official end of workday. It was agreed that my time of arrival was not important as long as the job was done.Quote: billryanI grow to disdain employees who show up right on time, then spend twenty minutes getting ready to work, and then start to knock off at 4:40 for a 5PM day.
I fired a guy this week that I thought had a legit shot at a leadership position. He walked in at 910 and swore I told him to be there at 9, not 830 like everyone else showed up. By 11 he had taken three long smoke breaks and was asking if I paid for their lunches. At 1215 I tell them to break but be back at work by 1PM. He comes back at 110, announces he is hitting the head to make some donuts and grabbed a $60 book off the shelf to read. I took the book, told him this wasn't going to work out , paid him $60 which is far more than he deserved and he was gone.
He's got the resume down, and the interview was pretty good, it's the work part that is lacking.
Alas, that was a gentleman’s agreement, not written down. A boss might be a gentleman when business goes nice, but don’t expect gentlemanhood when they are stressed about bad results.
So when that same boss welcomed me one morning pointing at his watch, then did the same another day at my returning from lunch, I just told him this was a breach of agreement and I didn’t want to work in these conditions. He insisted. « Fire me, then! » He didn’t want to fire me because that costs him money. So I exhibited more laziness until he unwillingly had to fire me, the bastard!
This is a good one and they guy does the same thing at 34:30 about. They ask him what he thinks about the situation and he says he is embarrassed and worried about his reputation. Granted, it makes more sense in this context (a cop accused of raping a bunch of women) but still, probably wouldn't be my primary reaction to being accused as a serial rapist.
It gets weird after that. The interrogators start asking him about sex and how often he JOs and stuff. It's odd that he casually answers such questions. I guess he's being overly cooperative.
His own story is that he pulled her over, while off duty because she was swerving and he was worried she was DUI and could kill someone. He didn't call it in or record it in any way. He put her in the back of his car, again, while off duty. That alone, is effing crazy. I ain't a cop, but I can MAYBE see pulling someone over while off duty and checking to see if they are drunk, then calling on duty cops. But to detain someone in your car... hell, if you are ON duty. No cop has ever pulled me over for a routine stop and then put me in their car.
He smelled alcohol on her, found that she had opioids (legally, but those don't mix well with booze), and was driving without a license.
He then decides to just let her go, because he is eager to get home. He kind of gets into a loop here. They ask, if you were so eager to get home, why did you pull her over? Well, because he thinks she was DUI. But then why did you let her go? Oh, I guessed she was under the limit... smelling of alcohol, swerving on the road, with a purse full of opioids. Really?
Then, for no reason whatsoever, she files a police report falsely alleging that he assaulted her.
It also made me laugh because it reminded me of Reno 911 when the interviewer says things like, "Daniel, did your penis go in her mouth?"
Quote: GWAEWhat percentage of cops are bad cops? Do you think it is the same percentage as any other job?
I would guess about the same. Sadly, there are too many bad employees everywhere.
the problem is the blue wall of silence - when one does something really bad the others will lie and cover up for him
the cops spend a lot of time trying to cultivate informants - but they won't inform on their own - very rarely anyway
Quote: DRichI would guess about the same. Sadly, there are too many bad employees everywhere.
Sure, if by "bad" you mean corrupt.
If by "bad" you only mean "damaged", then I'd put it a lot higher than that. People don't usually fare well when under constant traumatization. Add to it our "don't be a pussy" policy on men's mental health, and viola!
Was drinkin' with a buddy who got on a rail about a traffic stop. He caught me off guard and I was like "what?" and he explained that just prior to it, he was shoveling a dude's head into a garbage bag because the rook got sick (in-vehicle suicide), so there he was doing schmeltz work as a 20yr+ veteran before going back to railing about the traffic stop.
When liquified human brain is an addendum to the story...
Quote: lilredroosterthe problem isn't that there are some bad cops - that's to be expected in any profession
the problem is the blue wall of silence - when one does something really bad the others will lie and cover up for him
the cops spend a lot of time trying to cultivate informants - but they won't inform on their own - very rarely anyway
That is kind of my feeling. Let's just say for arguments sake there are 5% bad employees. With that 5% at McDonald's it means your food takes longer to get to you. With cops the stakes are much higher so those 5% are doing worse things.
Quote: lilredroosterthe problem isn't that there are some bad cops - that's to be expected in any profession
the problem is the blue wall of silence - when one does something really bad the others will lie and cover up for him
the cops spend a lot of time trying to cultivate informants - but they won't inform on their own - very rarely anyway
I'm sure cops look the other way for lots of minor things other cops do. You can't have much group cohesiveness if everyone is ratting out everyone at every opportunity. Those same guys you piss off, can miss the bad guy intentionally when he's about to do you harm, and they need each other's protection at times.
Unfortunately that blue line becomes a grey line sometimes as things get more over the line.
