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September 1st, 2019 at 7:04:51 PM permalink
GWAE that post was terribly written, are you drunk or is Axel writing for you?
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September 1st, 2019 at 7:31:52 PM permalink
Woah that last message was rough. As JZ said I was lit AF.

Went to a charity softball tournament today. I have been looking forward to it all week. First inning I crush a ball and are thinking double. I charge out of the box and a few steps in I grab for hamstring. I get to first and stop and realize it's both hamstrings. I get a pinch runner and retreat to bench. With the tournament donation there was free food and beer. I immediately start downing beers (Coors lightl so only half a beer) I had 6 before the end of the one hour game. Cornhole tournament in an hour and my legs hurt so bad so I continue to drink, hoping drunk will make me not feel pain. Had another 3 or 4. Ended up making 3rd round of tournament and continued to drink probably 2 or 3 during cornhole. After that I hobble to wife who is watching one of the games. Guy with cooler is there and I make a comment about drinks. He pulls out a glass bottle that is actually bottled and pours me a drink which was 8 ounce whiskey and 4 oz honey liquor. It was good. At this point I had this drink plus about 15 beers and that is when I made that post. Now drinking 2 large Gatorade and hoping to keep my non hangover streak.

Oh yeah... hamstrings hurt real bad. One is black and blue, the other just hurts. I have been doing keto for 3 weeks so wondering if lack of carbs caused hammy or if it was just poor stretching.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 2:14:56 AM permalink
whoop whoop... no hangover streak continues. Hamstrings are bearable this morning. I was expecting them to be in bad shape after sleep but they are not.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 3:34:41 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

whoop whoop... no hangover streak continues. Hamstrings are bearable this morning. I was expecting them to be in bad shape after sleep but they are not.



You drank so much, i wouldn't assume that amount of time was enough to avoid a hangover...
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September 2nd, 2019 at 4:52:41 AM permalink
I'm having some trouble with the quantity on your rusty nail (popular cocktail in the 60s and 70s, kind of disappeared these days ). It's all booze. This guy poured you a 12 oz drink on top of all the beer? You would be, well, dead, in the period you drank it. I hope you just had a couple shots worth.

You could also still be drunk, so no hangover. Yet. Or not.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 6:24:56 AM permalink
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September 2nd, 2019 at 7:20:10 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm having some trouble with the quantity on your rusty nail (popular cocktail in the 60s and 70s, kind of disappeared these days ). It's all booze. This guy poured you a 12 oz drink on top of all the beer? You would be, well, dead, in the period you drank it. I hope you just had a couple shots worth.

You could also still be drunk, so no hangover. Yet. Or not.



I think I have a disposition to handling alcohol well. Axel called BS on me once when I said that I have never had a hangover. My dad has also never had one and he used to drink a lot in my younger days. All my drinking came over a period of 6 hours so I dont think it was that much. Last 2 hours I milked 2 beers. Then are a cheeseburger, then had ice cream, 2 large Gatorades, ibuprofen, and about a liter of water. Went to bed feeling fine and slept for about 5 hours. Had to pee or would have slept a little longer. I feel 100%

Rusty nail 12 oz. Btw the only reason I knew it was 12 oz is because I made a comment that an 8oz drink was after all my beer is going to end badly. He laughed and said I would be fine since it was 12oz but it was on the rocks so I wonder if it was 12oz cup but with ice? It was a clear plastic short wide cup.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 8:23:15 AM permalink
Tragedy overnight, as a seventy five foot boot caught fire far off the coast of California with evidence a heavy loss of life.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 8:45:48 AM permalink
Am thinking there must have been an explosion. Otherwise wouldn't most passengers jumped in the ocean?
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September 2nd, 2019 at 9:56:27 AM permalink
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Am thinking there must have been an explosion. Otherwise wouldn't most passengers jumped in the ocean?



Was thinking the same. Seemed like and awful big fire for no one to be able to grab life jacket and jump. I assume a boat that size has a life boat too.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:10:03 AM permalink
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Am thinking there must have been an explosion. Otherwise wouldn't most passengers jumped in the ocean?



Nearby boats said it was about 3am, there were several explosions, and the way that boat worked, most everyone would have been below decks sleeping. So easily trapped in the hull if it was the tanks that exploded on the fantail. Probably only a hatch or two on the top bow for escape.

They said it's difficult to get rescue assistance in the Channel Islands, and it was a couple hours or more before they got aid, but that some people nearby tried to help. And they reported that the boat has sunk, so it will probably be a difficult investigation, if they can even get to it. But there's not much point in mooring a dive boat too deep, so I would guess it's in less than 100' of water.

Very sad situation. I have a friend who dives in the area, but he usually goes alone or with a single other person. So unlikely he's among them.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:17:18 AM permalink
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Tragedy overnight, as a seventy five foot boot caught fire far



I sat here for 10 sec picturing a
75ft boot, thinking wtf..
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:22:02 AM permalink
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This guy poured you a 12 oz drink on top of all the beer? You would be, well, dead, in the period you drank it. I hope you just had a couple shots worth.



Back in the day (and why I'm mostly dry these days) the 20oz was my SOP. No sense in tasting it 30 times and spending $50 when you could taste it once for a tenner and be set. Chugging 20oz of 80p rum was standard practice, and then we went out drinking. Only time I got a hangover was when "151 should be the same thing" and "a gallon between two is close enough to a fifth for one".

Almost got killed by third grade math lol

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I sat here for 10 sec picturing a
75ft boot, thinking wtf..



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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:56:14 AM permalink
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Chugging 20oz of 80p rum was standard practice,



In your fanciful imagination of
the old days maybe, in reality
not quite so much.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:06:29 AM permalink
I chugged an oversized brandy sniffer( I think it was 16 ounces) of 151 to win a $50 bet in 1977. My stomach churned for hours. Few people not there believed that I did it and I could have won hundreds if I repeated it, but it wasn't worth it. I felt horrible the whole weekend. Very dehydrated but with an aversion to liquids.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:48:52 AM permalink
@GWAE

BORING AS F%&K!!
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 2nd, 2019 at 12:36:24 PM permalink
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@GWAE

BORING AS F%&K!!



Yeah kids have bored me. On the bright side I may be in Vegas alone in Oct. Have convention and wife may have a prior commitment that keeps her home
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September 2nd, 2019 at 4:44:01 PM permalink
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In your fanciful imagination of
the old days maybe, in reality
not quite so much.



Guess they were 18oz cups, minus a few more oz since it's not "spilling full". In any case, more than 12 and that was before going out to drink, so easily add 5-10 on that.

20 drinks in a night isn't exactly rare. I mean, you HAVE read my trip reports...
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September 2nd, 2019 at 4:46:59 PM permalink
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Yeah kids have bored me.

You should have married Susan Smith instead. (IT'S A JOKE PEOPLE)
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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September 2nd, 2019 at 5:13:06 PM permalink
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You should have married Susan Smith instead. (IT'S A JOKE PEOPLE)



Oh NOOOES......head to the bunker
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September 2nd, 2019 at 5:49:23 PM permalink
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Guess they were 18oz cups, minus a few more oz since it's not "spilling full". In any case, more than 12 and that was before going out to drink, so easily add 5-10 on that.

20 drinks in a night isn't exactly rare. I mean, you HAVE read my trip reports...



LOL Yes I knew you could relate. The event we were at was a highly attended event since the beneficiary was a well liked cop. I had multiple messages sent to me today plus some new people friended me on facebook. Apparently I made an impression. Not sure if that is good. I don't remember doing anything toooo bad.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 6:12:57 PM permalink
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LOL Yes I knew you could relate. The event we were at was a highly attended event since the beneficiary was a well liked cop. I had multiple messages sent to me today plus some new people friended me on facebook. Apparently I made an impression. Not sure if that is good. I don't remember doing anything toooo bad.



GWAE,

Reminds me of a song:

Jim Stafford – "Little Bits and Pieces"

Ain't it strange how your conscience seems to disappear at night
But it's right there in the morning, when you open up your eyes
Yeah, you're starin' at the ceiling, and it whispers in your ear
Why'd you have to hit the whiskey, when the party ran out of beer?

And it hands your mind the picture that gives you the shiverin' heebie-jeebies LOOK OUT!
There comes the night before in little bits and pieces

Did I really kiss his wife? (Yeah, you really kissed his wife)
In the bathroom in the dark? (In the bathroom, in the dark)
Did he turn on the light? (Yeah, he turned on the light)
Did he hit me kind of hard? (Yeah, he hit you kinda hard)

The more that you remember the more your self-respect decreases
But you can't stop the night before from coming back in bits and pieces...

Yeah, you did some bad things, being drunk ain't no excuse
You sure gave your friends a good look at the stupid side of you
And you close your eyes and grit your teeth an' try to squeeze it from your head
And sometimes it works and you shake it off, but you ain't out of this one yet

'Cause every thirty minutes all day long your mind releases
More pictures of the night before in little bits and pieces

Did I try to kill their cat? (Yeah, you chased him down the hall)
Was I laughin' at their curtains? (Yeah, you tore them off the wall)
Did I scream at everybody? (Yeah, you called them dirty names)
Well, it must have been the whiskey! (Yeah, you outta be ashamed)

The more that you remember the more your self-respect decreases
And you can't stop the night before from coming back in bits and pieces...

Did I set fire to their curtains? (Just to test the smoke alarm)
Did I take off all my clothes? (You said the room was gettin' warm)
Did I put my clothes back on? (You put on panty hose instead)
Well, at least I wasn't naked! (No, you wore them on your head)

Did I boss come to the party? (It was at your bosses house!)
Did I tell him I was sorry? (He said, 'Woah, Mighty Mouse!')
Did I really kiss his wife? (In the bathroom, in the dark)
In the bathroom in the dark? (Yeah, he hit you kinda hard)

Did I try to kill their cat? (Yeah, you chased him down the hall)
Was I laughin' at their curtains? (Yeah, you tore them off the wall)
Did I scream at everybody? (Yeah, you called them dirty names)
Did I take off all my clothes? (You outta be ashamed)

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September 2nd, 2019 at 8:32:09 PM permalink
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LOL Yes I knew you could relate. The event we were at was a highly attended event since the beneficiary was a well liked cop. I had multiple messages sent to me today plus some new people friended me on facebook. Apparently I made an impression. Not sure if that is good. I don't remember doing anything toooo bad.



Can confirm. I do not drink but once or twice a year, but when it's on, it's an affair. And even as a "non drinker", whatever hang overs I get are sorted by noon. This on days where the first round of mimosas are done and the 'shine broken out by 0700, and by the time you get from BUF to the OH border, two quarts of it have been vanished by just 8 people. And it's not quite 0900. On the first of 3 days lol.

Cops, man. They go hard.

Ain't gonna pretend I was fine lol. But a long way from dead. S@#$, made 51 saves that night =p
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September 2nd, 2019 at 9:33:43 PM permalink
Quote: Face


Cops, man. They go hard.



You missed the heyday of drunk
driving, pre early 80's. In the
60's and 70's you didn't want to
get caught, but it really wasn't
a big deal. I remember in the
1959 movie North by Northwest,
Cary Grant is arrested for DWI.
He wants to fight it, but his mother
says 'Just pay the $2 fine and lets
go.; MADD changed all that, it's
part of the reason I left the bar
business.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:08:46 PM permalink
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MADD changed all that, it's part of the reason I left the bar business.


often bar patrons get reported to crimestoppers when they enter their cars drunk, then the tipsters get the reward money and spend it in the bar.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 10:45:38 PM permalink
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Nearby boats said it was about 3am, there were several explosions, and the way that boat worked, most everyone would have been below decks sleeping.

25 bodies found several still missing.
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September 2nd, 2019 at 11:22:37 PM permalink
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often bar patrons get reported to crimestoppers when they enter their cars drunk, then the tipsters get the reward money and spend it in the bar.



I'm not aware of rewards being offered for tips on DWIs, but if there were, how stupid would somebody have to be to snitch on someone and then go drink in a bar with the guys friends.

It was a very different time. Almost everyone I knew had a DWI. Somehow I avoided one, although I could have gotten one many a night.
One of my fraternity brothers had five in one school year, and then got a sixth, this one resulting in two girls getting hurt. He never spent a day in jail for them., and wasn't the least bit regretful. His parents shipped him off to an Uncle in LA and we gradually lost touch.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 1:10:29 AM permalink
Anonymous rewards.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 4:11:34 AM permalink
Quote: Face

Can confirm. I do not drink but once or twice a year, but when it's on, it's an affair. And even as a "non drinker", whatever hang overs I get are sorted by noon. This on days where the first round of mimosas are done and the 'shine broken out by 0700, and by the time you get from BUF to the OH border, two quarts of it have been vanished by just 8 people. And it's not quite 0900. On the first of 3 days lol.

Cops, man. They go hard.

Ain't gonna pretend I was fine lol. But a long way from dead. S@#$, made 51 saves that night =p



Yeah I am the same. There are people that will have a beer or wine with dinner. Or maybe a drink everyday after work. I would prefer a Pepsi. I always say there is only one reason to drink and that is to get drunk. When I drink, I accomplish the task as quickly as possible.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 4:46:33 AM permalink
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Yeah I am the same. There are people that will have a beer or wine with dinner. Or maybe a drink everyday after work. I would prefer a Pepsi. I always say there is only one reason to drink and that is to get drunk. When I drink, I accomplish the task as quickly as possible.

You make the same error as those who say: « there is only one reason to gamble and that is to win money. »

No.
There is the fun.
There is the taste of a good wine, or a good beer (not in America, but come taste one in Belgium).
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September 3rd, 2019 at 5:19:05 AM permalink
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You make the same error as those who say: « there is only one reason to gamble and that is to win money. »

No.
There is the fun.
There is the taste of a good wine, or a good beer (not in America, but come taste one in Belgium).



I can see your point as the taste, but I prefer the taste of a pepsi or koolaid over the taste of beer. A good friend of ours has a bourbon collection. Whenever we go over there for a party (usually a kids party), people are not getting drunk but I will usually have a few drinks and taste a few bourbons. He has over 100 bottles so it is interesting trying different ones. But when it comes to beer which is usually coors or bud light so not sure that it is considered beer, the taste is not that great to me and would prefer a pepsi.

Where is the fun when having a drink or 2? If we are talking belgium beer then I guess there could be fun after 2 but that would be like having 10 coors.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 11:45:01 AM permalink
does it trigger anyone else when you talk to support lines and they continue to say how sorry they are that you are having problems? In my job we talk to many companies that have reps offshore and they all seem to be overly polite by thanking you every other sentence and such. Today I was put on hold while she was researching something and she came back every 90 seconds to say she is sorry for the hold and was it ok that she kept researching. After the 5th time I was like, can you please stop coming back to the phone and just find the answer.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 12:32:40 PM permalink
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One of my fraternity brothers had five in one school year,



I knew a guy in 1979 who
got 4 in one week. They
put their foot down and
issued a warrant and he
moved to another state.

Often as not a cop would
give you a ride home if
you had no priors. Now
they arrest you if you're the
tiniest amount over. This
is the result of us abusing
the system for all those
years. I was at the bar till
2 am 3-4 nights a week
and I was always drunk
when I drove home. Never
thought about it.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 12:36:07 PM permalink
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I knew a guy in 1979 who
got 4 in one week. They
put their foot down and
issued a warrant and he
moved to another state.

Often as not a cop would
give you a ride home if
you had no priors. Now
they arrest you if you're the
tiniest amount over. This
is the result of us abusing
the system for all those
years. I was at the bar till
2 am 3-4 nights a week
and I was always drunk
when I drove home. Never
thought about it.



I haven't looked at statistics but what have dui fatality rates done in that time
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September 3rd, 2019 at 12:46:23 PM permalink
Yesterday evening I was listening to a woman complain about her 3 scoops of ice cream being too small. She was berating the waitress. "I come here 3 times a week, and they always give me much bigger scoops." Waitress explains that's the size they always serve. Woman: "I spend thousands of dollars in this casino, and they always give me more ice cream then this. I come here 3 times a week and you're the only waitress who has given me this small serving of ice cream." Waitress still insists that's correct size but says she will go check with the manager. Manager shows up and woman goes through her spiel again. When she says, all the wait staff have always given her more, he tells her that they all have been doing it wrong then. He says she can order more, but it will cost more. Then another round of how much she spends in the casino. (I suspect at this point no one has seen her 3 times a week, and those thousands of dollars probably mean she's a penny ploppie at the slots)

Finally, after all this, she points at her current plate of ice cream which has sadly melted while she was complaining and wants a new plate. Manager manages to look calm and promises her at least a new plate un-melted ice cream, instead of possibly smushing the plate of melted ice cream into her face.

I left at this point, so no longer observed the resolution.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 1:05:48 PM permalink
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I haven't looked at statistics but what have dui fatality rates done in that time




Cars weren't nearly as safe as they are now, and most people didn't wear seatbelts. I'm sure the traffic fatality rate was much higher.
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I haven't looked at statistics but what have dui fatality rates done in that time



All I remember is 3-4 of my customers
dying in DWI accidents in the 3.5
years I was there. That seems like a
lot for one small bar.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 1:19:08 PM permalink
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All I remember is 3-4 of my customers
dying in DWI accidents in the 3.5
years I was there. That seems like a
lot for one small bar.



If you had a bar full of customers driving home drunk on a nightly basis , I’d say 3-4 deaths sounds low.

Was there a lot of drunk driving accidents overall ? Without deaths.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 1:20:14 PM permalink
If you google drunk driver bus stop, there are pages and pages of drunk drivers hitting people at bus stops.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 1:24:08 PM permalink
Quote: kubikulann

You make the same error as those who say: « there is only one reason to gamble and that is to win money. »

No.
There is the fun.
There is the taste of a good wine, or a good beer (not in America, but come taste one in Belgium).



Good beers in America blow away good beers in Belgium now.

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I haven't looked at statistics but what have dui fatality rates done in that time



They are down significantly. But I still lost my cousin this year, and he was legally drunk (BAC of 0.11%). This is definitely unfortunate because his kids who aren't 18 yet lost out on future life insurance money. The main reason he died was because he was on a motorcycle drunk. :(

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Cars weren't nearly as safe as they are now, and most people didn't wear seatbelts. I'm sure the traffic fatality rate was much higher.



And this too.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 1:56:25 PM permalink
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Been there a couple dozen times. I've experienced feelings there I never have before. Almost spiritual. I saw something in Devils Den my first trip when I was ten. There is an old farm just outside town that was a field hospital of last resort for those beyond saving. They allow camping on occasion.




there is a book chronicling some of the dozens of supernatural tales surrounding Gettysburg, Pa which is where I went to college
I never saw any ghosts - just strange feelings on the battlefield






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September 3rd, 2019 at 2:17:45 PM permalink
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If you had a bar full of customers driving home drunk on a nightly basis , I’d say 3-4 deaths sounds low.



Not really. Lots of people learn
how to drink and drive pretty
well. It's the inexperienced you
have to worry about.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 2:22:58 PM permalink
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The main reason he died was because he was on a motorcycle drunk. :(



Harley riders would back their
bike up against curb and park
it to go into the bar. A dozen
times over the years one of
them who was drunk would
attempt to take off into traffic
too slowly and tip the bike
on it's side. A bunch of us would
right it and he'd take off. Never
even occurred to us to try
and stop him. Different times,
different mentality.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 4:50:48 PM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

there is a book chronicling some of the dozens of supernatural tales surrounding Gettysburg, Pa which is where I went to college
I never saw any ghosts - just strange feelings on the battlefield








My first trip was around 1968. I'd just read Billy Reb and Johnny Yank and wanted to see the park. It was pouring rain when we got there.Spent the first day in the hotel but when it continued to rain the second day my Father and I went to the park and for the most part we were alone. Late in the day, just before dusk, we stopped by the public restroom by Devils Den. As I said, we pretty much had the park to ourselves. My Dad went inside and I was reading one of the many informational signs when I got a sudden chill. I turned and saw something. Whatever it was scared the shot out of me and I ran in the bathroom. Dad was just reaching the door when I ran in. It couldn't have been more than five seconds before we were outside but the man was gone. Or whatever it was.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 6:34:45 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

If you had a bar full of customers driving home drunk on a nightly basis , I’d say 3-4 deaths sounds low.

Was there a lot of drunk driving accidents overall ? Without deaths.



I hang out at a tavern where I would guess at least three people a night are driving blasted (bac over .2%). In the 18 years I have been going there I don't know of a single patron that got into an accident drunk. There has been many DUI's, but no injuries yet.

In Nevada bartenders are not responsible if the patrons drive drunk, it is all on the patrons to not drink and drive.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 6:45:42 PM permalink
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I hang out at a tavern where I would guess at least three people a night are driving blasted (bac over .2%). In the 18 years I have been going there I don't know of a single patron that got into an accident drunk. There has been many DUI's, but no injuries yet.

In Nevada bartenders are not responsible if the patrons drive drunk, it is all on the patrons to not drink and drive.



Does the bar have any responsibility? I've always thought responsibility goes to ownership, rather then the bartender.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 6:50:23 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I hang out at a tavern where I would guess at least three people a night are driving blasted (bac over .2%). In the 18 years I have been going there I don't know of a single patron that got into an accident drunk. There has been many DUI's, but no injuries yet.

In Nevada bartenders are not responsible if the patrons drive drunk, it is all on the patrons to not drink and drive.



In NY, I would see cars pulled over and impairment tests on a regular basis. In Henderson, I never see it.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 7:08:21 PM permalink
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Does the bar have any responsibility? I've always thought responsibility goes to ownership, rather then the bartender.



No, not in Nevada. No dram shop laws here.
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September 3rd, 2019 at 7:10:00 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I hang out at a tavern where I would guess at least three people a night are driving blasted (bac over .2%). In the 18 years I have been going there I don't know of a single patron that got into an accident drunk. There has been many DUI's, but no injuries yet.

In Nevada bartenders are not responsible if the patrons drive drunk, it is all on the patrons to not drink and drive.

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