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Did you watch the entire video?Quote: terapinedA little more info
The black lady does not take to tag off her shirt after she buys one at Old Navy
She bought the shirt on a previous visit and left the tag on, that's her business
She does this because if Old Navy drops the price in 30 days, She has price proof to get the diff back
Stephanie saw her walk out wearing a shirt with a tag but its a shirt she paid for on a previous visit
Therefore totally innocent
Still no reason to hold somebody against their will
She still wears the tags to several pieces of her clothing. Is that the kind of customers you would want if you were a merchant?
Is that the kind of grief that you expect merchants to go through, for the slim margin on cheap shirts?
Is that TP's idea of MAGA? Really? So now we are to believe that you wear clothes you purchased around with the sales tags still attached, in and out of the stores where you bought them. Way to exercise your rights TP, your parents would be so proud.
I dont think this was a white or black issue. It was an employee assuming someone wearing their shirt band with a tag still attached must have stolen it. I might assume that as well. Even if that chick was white she would have probably done the same thing. Would she have even been watching a white person? I have no clue, but I would assume not as much. Whatever the case, IMO that employee should have never detained her. I'm not sure what the laws are there. Can an employee detain someone if there is reasonable suspicion of theft? Would it be enough to simply see someone in the store wearing their brand of shirt that still had a tag on it? I hope the black chick gets compensated. Is there any update-on this i would really like to know the outcome. That's one thing I hate when they show videos like this, I never know how it turns out.Quote: terapinedTotal failure by Old Navy employee
A Black woman leaves an old Navy store
Old Navy employee follows her out and accuses her of stealing
At first the Black lady is chuckling because she is innocent
The Old Navy employee, Stephanie says she stole the shirt she is wearing and they have video evidence
Oh boy, it gets really bad as Stephanie grabs the innocent person and wont let go
Amazing the hate some people have against an innocent black woman.
Old Navy fired Stephanie and apologized to the innocent Black lady
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
Oftentimes, when I do some shopping at Walmart on the way out they will ask me for my receipt. If im in a hurry and I have already tucked it into my wallet or im on my cell phone. I will just say, "no thank you" and just keep walking. I guess it they get too annoyed they could just 86 you.
Quote: petroglyphDid you watch the entire video?
She still wears the tags to several pieces of her clothing. Is that the kind of customers you would want if you were a merchant?
If she spends money, why would a merchant care if she leaves the tags on.
Quote: petroglyph
Is that the kind of grief that you expect merchants to go through, for the slim margin on cheap shirts?
Old Navy kind of encourages it letting their customers know if price drops in 30 days, you get the diff
Quote: petroglyph
Is that TP's idea of MAGA? Really? So now we are to believe that you wear clothes you purchased around with the sales tags still attached, in and out of the stores where you bought them. Way to exercise your rights TP, your parents would be so proud.
Whats this have to do with MAGA???????????
I take off my tags but I do have the right of leaving them on
Having a tag on a shirt you are wearing is no proof of theft. Its only proof of price.
Wasn't there a Seinfeld episode of leaving a tag on a pair of pants to show off size?
If she was doing this in order to bait the stores, then F*** HER!!! She seemed to say this is something she does all the time. If she has a reason for doing this all the time, one that is not related to baiting people, then that's her prerogative.Quote: petroglyphDid you watch the entire video?
She still wears the tags to several pieces of her clothing. Is that the kind of customers you would want if you were a merchant?
Is that the kind of grief that you expect merchants to go through, for the slim margin on cheap shirts?
Is that TP's idea of MAGA? Really? So now we are to believe that you wear clothes you purchased around with the sales tags still attached, in and out of the stores where you bought them. Way to exercise your rights TP, your parents would be so proud.
Quote: AxelWolfI hope the black chick gets compensated. Is there any update-on this i would really like to know the outcome. That's one thing I hate when they show videos like this, I never know how it turns out.Quote: terapinedTotal failure by Old Navy employee
A Black woman leaves an old Navy store
Old Navy employee follows her out and accuses her of stealing
At first the Black lady is chuckling because she is innocent
The Old Navy employee, Stephanie says she stole the shirt she is wearing and they have video evidence
Oh boy, it gets really bad as Stephanie grabs the innocent person and wont let go
Amazing the hate some people have against an innocent black woman.
Old Navy fired Stephanie and apologized to the innocent Black lady
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
Check her facebook account. She is giving updates including all communication with Old Navy management
Oh cool, Thanks!! I find this interesting. Link?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfI hope the black chick gets compensated. Is there any update-on this i would really like to know the outcome. That's one thing I hate when they show videos like this, I never know how it turns out.Quote: terapinedTotal failure by Old Navy employee
A Black woman leaves an old Navy store
Old Navy employee follows her out and accuses her of stealing
At first the Black lady is chuckling because she is innocent
The Old Navy employee, Stephanie says she stole the shirt she is wearing and they have video evidence
Oh boy, it gets really bad as Stephanie grabs the innocent person and wont let go
Amazing the hate some people have against an innocent black woman.
Old Navy fired Stephanie and apologized to the innocent Black lady
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
Check her facebook account. She is giving updates including all communication with Old Navy management
Quote: AxelWolfIf she was doing this in order to bait the stores, then F*** HER!!! She seemed to say this is something she does all the time. If she has good reason for doing this all the time that's not related to baiting people then that's her prerogative.
she wasn't
She likes Old Navy because if she buys something there and the price drops in 30 days, she gets the diff back and she has immediate proof. The tag. Taking a tag off a shirt is optional. Nobody says you have to take it off
This is absurd. A thief would stuff the shirt in a pocket, not put it on in a small store. Old Navy's are not that big. Its no Wallmart
Quote: rxwineAnyone know the answer to the following?
My sister has a cable connection but wants to run an antenna as well. I do this on my tv with no problem. Then you just switch from cable to air to watch one or the other.
On her TV she has the same controls listed in the setup, but those controls are greyed out on the menu and won't activate. I'm wondering if the cable guy who installed it blocked it or something. She doesn't know where her manual is either.
I don't have cable but I have an antenna. It just plugs straight into the back of the TV, you turn the TV on, and boom. Done. What happens if your sister plugs an antenna into her TV? Can't she just unplug the cable from the TV and plug in an antenna, and then plug the cable back in when she wants to watch that? I haven't had cable in like ten years so I don't know how it works anymore.
Best thing to do is just ditch cable. Tell her to get a Roku and watch a ton of stuff for free, much of it better than cable, anyway.
Quote: AxelWolfOh cool, Thanks!! I find this interesting. Link?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfI hope the black chick gets compensated. Is there any update-on this i would really like to know the outcome. That's one thing I hate when they show videos like this, I never know how it turns out.Quote: terapinedTotal failure by Old Navy employee
A Black woman leaves an old Navy store
Old Navy employee follows her out and accuses her of stealing
At first the Black lady is chuckling because she is innocent
The Old Navy employee, Stephanie says she stole the shirt she is wearing and they have video evidence
Oh boy, it gets really bad as Stephanie grabs the innocent person and wont let go
Amazing the hate some people have against an innocent black woman.
Old Navy fired Stephanie and apologized to the innocent Black lady
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
Check her facebook account. She is giving updates including all communication with Old Navy management
The Yahoo article has her FB link at the beginning of the article
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
This may work
https://www.facebook.com/lisa.waytoonice/posts/10161594027845478
she posted this and the 50% off coupon she received
very savvy shopper. A lot more savvy then me
"***ALSO***SMH the reason I keep my tags...June 12th 2 days after the incident (June 10th), I received the 50% off everything email (this is normally when my receipt is discounted), My normal custom is to have my previously purchased items in bag accompanied by receipt in case tags are needed). Still too traumatized to go back to the mall for my discount tho.🤦🏾♀️ #IKeepMyTags"
I watch Peoples court and I hear all the time from the judge. What proof do you have of how much you paid for that item
Defendant - I threw away the tag and receipts
Quote: terapinedshe wasn't
She likes Old Navy because if she buys something there and the price drops in 30 days, she gets the diff back and she has immediate proof. The tag. Taking a tag off a shirt is optional. Nobody says you have to take it off
This is absurd. A thief would stuff the shirt in a pocket, not put it on in a small store. Old Navy's are not that big. Its no Wallmart
How is the tag proof of price? I buy stuff all the time with a full price tag and it is discounted at the register for the sale price. Your receipt is the only proof of price paid for refund purposes.
This woman is simply baiting stores for a lawsuit. The modern day slip and fall and she is using her race to her advantage.
Quote: MaxPen
This woman is simply baiting stores for a lawsuit. The modern day slip and fall and she is using her race to her advantage.
Even if she's baiting for a lawsuit, she's 100% right. The store clerk should not have assaulted her.
That's some next level thinking there. A lot of people would just have kept the receipt.Quote: terapinedshe wasn't
She likes Old Navy because if she buys something there and the price drops in 30 days, she gets the diff back and she has immediate proof. The tag. Taking a tag off a shirt is optional. Nobody says you have to take it off
This is absurd. A thief would stuff the shirt in a pocket, not put it on in a small store. Old Navy's are not that big. Its no Wallmart
But you and your girl here, you go get "em.
How are other stores that aren't dealing with this next level thinking type clientele supposed to have any idea if shoplifters are pilfering merchandise, other than still having the tags attached?
You and her are both doing your part for the death of brick and mortar.
You still did not answer if you watched the entire video before commenting on it.Quote: terapinedIf she spends money, why would a merchant care if she leaves the tags on.
Old Navy kind of encourages it letting their customers know if price drops in 30 days, you get the diff
Whats this have to do with MAGA???????????
I take off my tags but I do have the right of leaving them on
Having a tag on a shirt you are wearing is no proof of theft. Its only proof of price.
Wasn't there a Seinfeld episode of leaving a tag on a pair of pants to show off size?
Quote: petroglyphThat's some next level thinking there. A lot of people would just have kept the receipt.
But you and your girl here, you go get "em.
How are other stores that aren't dealing with this next level thinking type clientele supposed to have any idea if shoplifters are pilfering merchandise, other than still having the tags attached?
You and her are both doing your part for the death of brick and mortar.
They should do what Best Buy does
You walk in with an item to exchange or return or they sell, they put a sticker on it proving its yours and not stolen
Quote: terapinedThey should do what Best Buy does
You walk in with an item to exchange or return or they sell, they put a sticker on it proving its yours and not stolen
Then they get sued for touching her chest putting the sticker on......lol
See that? She's to traumatized to go back in the store. Probably has PTSD? She is laughing about how well her plan to sue the store worked out. Works here, sans the lawsuits.Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfOh cool, Thanks!! I find this interesting. Link?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfI hope the black chick gets compensated. Is there any update-on this i would really like to know the outcome. That's one thing I hate when they show videos like this, I never know how it turns out.Quote: terapinedTotal failure by Old Navy employee
A Black woman leaves an old Navy store
Old Navy employee follows her out and accuses her of stealing
At first the Black lady is chuckling because she is innocent
The Old Navy employee, Stephanie says she stole the shirt she is wearing and they have video evidence
Oh boy, it gets really bad as Stephanie grabs the innocent person and wont let go
Amazing the hate some people have against an innocent black woman.
Old Navy fired Stephanie and apologized to the innocent Black lady
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
Check her facebook account. She is giving updates including all communication with Old Navy management
The Yahoo article has her FB link at the beginning of the article
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
This may work
https://www.facebook.com/lisa.waytoonice/posts/10161594027845478
she posted this and the 50% off coupon she received
very savvy shopper. A lot more savvy then me
"***ALSO***SMH the reason I keep my tags...June 12th 2 days after the incident (June 10th), I received the 50% off everything email (this is normally when my receipt is discounted), My normal custom is to have my previously purchased items in bag accompanied by receipt in case tags are needed). Still too traumatized to go back to the mall for my discount tho.🤦🏾♀️ #IKeepMyTags"
I watch Peoples court and I hear all the time from the judge. What proof do you have of how much you paid for that item
Defendant - I threw away the tag and receipts
How much do you think she should be compensated for her trauma? My bolding above.
She even says normally she keeps the receipts. So this behavior which you didn't say you watched completely is beyond her norm. So why shouldn't the lowly working clerk have some suspicion?
Do you find that racist, that she suspected this customer of shoplifting for wearing the tags in and out of the store, when even that customer says that is not normal, even for this savvy shopper?
Quote: petroglyphSee that? She's to traumatized to go back in the store. Probably has PTSD? She is laughing about how well her plan to sue the store worked out. Works here, sans the lawsuits.Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfOh cool, Thanks!! I find this interesting. Link?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfI hope the black chick gets compensated. Is there any update-on this i would really like to know the outcome. That's one thing I hate when they show videos like this, I never know how it turns out.Quote: terapinedTotal failure by Old Navy employee
A Black woman leaves an old Navy store
Old Navy employee follows her out and accuses her of stealing
At first the Black lady is chuckling because she is innocent
The Old Navy employee, Stephanie says she stole the shirt she is wearing and they have video evidence
Oh boy, it gets really bad as Stephanie grabs the innocent person and wont let go
Amazing the hate some people have against an innocent black woman.
Old Navy fired Stephanie and apologized to the innocent Black lady
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
Check her facebook account. She is giving updates including all communication with Old Navy management
The Yahoo article has her FB link at the beginning of the article
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
This may work
https://www.facebook.com/lisa.waytoonice/posts/10161594027845478
she posted this and the 50% off coupon she received
very savvy shopper. A lot more savvy then me
"***ALSO***SMH the reason I keep my tags...June 12th 2 days after the incident (June 10th), I received the 50% off everything email (this is normally when my receipt is discounted), My normal custom is to have my previously purchased items in bag accompanied by receipt in case tags are needed). Still too traumatized to go back to the mall for my discount tho.🤦🏾♀️ #IKeepMyTags"
I watch Peoples court and I hear all the time from the judge. What proof do you have of how much you paid for that item
Defendant - I threw away the tag and receipts
How much do you think she should be compensated for her trauma? My bolding above.
She even says normally she keeps the receipts. So this behavior which you didn't say you watched completely is beyond her norm. So why shouldn't the lowly working clerk have some suspicion?
Do you find that racist, that she suspected this customer of shoplifting for wearing the tags in and out of the store, when even that customer says that is not normal, even for this savvy shopper?
I simply posted this for the illegal detention
Its a pretty serious action to hold somebody against their will. You better make sure you are 100% right with absolutely no doubt to deprive an individual of their freedom. Even with mall security present, Stephanie refused to let go of an innocent person
Sure, she should wear a television, until some clerk gets suspicious and then sue them for being racist.Quote: terapinedThey should do what Best Buy does
You walk in with an item to exchange or return or they sell, they put a sticker on it proving its yours and not stolen
Since you refuse to answer, should I suspect you did watch the video you posted and you are baiting me, waiting for me to accuse you of posting something you didn't even read or watch?
You have learned well from the sue happy tag wearing shirt shopper.
Were you planning on complaining to management that I accused you of not watching or examining evidence before posting it? [equivalent of suing on the board]
Quote: petroglyphSure, she should wear a television, until some clerk gets suspicious and then sue them for being racist.
Wait a minute, I think I'm missing something.... nowhere in that article or her facebook page does it say anything about a lawsuit. Why do you keep going on and on about her suing Old Navy?
edit made:
Sorry, I did not click the quote button in my post to the original post, my post above was in response to Onenickelmiracle on page 1018, June 10th 2019 @ 3:47;46.
Maybe one will be filed. Old Navy is clearly trying to stave off any large judgement by taking immediate action including reaching out to the customer.
Was it baiting? Probably doesnt matter. The clerk TOOK the bait. There are no civil suit entrapment laws to my knowledge.
Old Navy has viewed the footage and clearly knows how bad this is. People denying it on here need to default to Old Navy judgement
Nowhere in the US (I assume Canada too) can an employee put their hands on you like that. The woman was not going anywhere and was asking if the clerk had observed any actual theft ("you saw me walk in wearing this shirt")
The fact there turned out to be no theft means the woman clearly DID NOT see a theft. She made an assumption and then took physical action over it.
It cost her job.
In the end the real issue was getting physical. Security was already on the scene so there was most definitely no need for grabbing her hand.
Quote: petroglyphDid you watch the entire video?
She still wears the tags to several pieces of her clothing. Is that the kind of customers you would want if you were a merchant?
Is that the kind of grief that you expect merchants to go through, for the slim margin on cheap shirts?
Is that TP's idea of MAGA? Really? So now we are to believe that you wear clothes you purchased around with the sales tags still attached, in and out of the stores where you bought them. Way to exercise your rights TP, your parents would be so proud.
There are 3 videos posted on the Facebook page.
I watched all 3 twice.
2 show the detainee from the arms and shoulders up only. No way you saw multiple clothes she was wearing in those 2 videos.
The 3rd video the detainee wasn't even visible. It was of the store manager apologizing
Not trying to trigger you but you claim to see her wearing multiple tags. I dont see that.
'nuff said.
Quote: FleaStiffI don't know much about Canadian law but it should be remembered that Canada arrested and fined and jailed a woman for failure to hold an escalator handrail.
'nuff said.
I was curious so i.I looked it up.
Your example is not really valid.
Yes she was arrested for not holding an elevator handrail.
The court dropped the charges as there is NO Canadian law that she broke.
The officer basically didnt know the law.
In many ways it reminds me of the officer at Maryland Live who told Justin Mills he had committed the crime of Counting Cards.
If an officer does not understand the law that doesnt make the overall judiciary system suspect.
I appreciate your civility. I got that notion from this video: Watch and listen from 4:00 to 4:30.Quote: darkozThere are 3 videos posted on the Facebook page.
I watched all 3 twice.
2 show the detainee from the arms and shoulders up only. No way you saw multiple clothes she was wearing in those 2 videos.
The 3rd video the detainee wasn't even visible. It was of the store manager apologizing
Not trying to trigger you but you claim to see her wearing multiple tags. I dont see that.
Quote: petroglyphI appreciate your civility. I got that notion from this video:
Watch and listen from 4:00 to 4:30.
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Can u give the direct link.
Thx
Nah, that's all I've got is youtube. Can you see the vid TP posted in the OP?Quote: darkozQuote: petroglyphI appreciate your civility. I got that notion from this video:
Watch and listen from 4:00 to 4:30.
I get that plugin not supported message
Can u give the direct link.
Thx
Quote: petroglyphNah, that's all I've got is youtube. Can you see the vid TP posted in the OP?Quote: darkozQuote: petroglyphI appreciate your civility. I got that notion from this video:
Watch and listen from 4:00 to 4:30.
I get that plugin not supported message
Can u give the direct link.
Thx
I found some longer videos of the incident on YouTube
Will watch them in full but im in a noisy place right now n cant hear a damn thing. Soon as its quiet around me will watch
Do you get the first one that TP posted?Quote: darkozI get that plugin not supported message
Can u give the direct link.
Thx
I see state after state declaring that they won't prosecute any crimes [shoplifting] under 8-9 hundred dollars now. Any employee anywhere is a fool to go after a thief for that amount of money. Bank tellers are taught to just hand over the money, it doesn't matter.
The clerk from what I saw was on her phone, and may have grabbed the thief just out of instinct, like she has kids or something and doesn't want them reaching into a fire?
Or maybe the clerk originally grabbed the woman in self defense, as you can see the thief's hand is outstretched toward the working woman?
Now the clerk no longer has a job. I wonder if she will sue the Navy store for firing her, claiming duress and termination under false pretenses?
Maybe the woman who used to work can now go on state aid, and live the dream having learned you can go around stealing all you can carry out of a merchants store, and there is absolutely nothing legally a merchant can do about it?
I remember in Portland, about the time Babs was hanging out on Burnside street, [ : ) ] the cops were only issuing traffic tickets for grand theft auto. Why would any poor person work for minimum wage is what I wonder? If you can steal up to 900 dollars at a time, with no worry of penalty, if you have any gumption at all, they could be shoplifting 5 thousand per day. If you think about it intrinsically, only stupid people work for low wages. There is no penalty anymore for being a small time thief, as long as your conscience doesn't bother you, if you have one
Quote: PokerGrinderI just wanted to put it out there that someone sent me a link to Kentry's site and there is a post apparently from me. I didn't make that post lol.
Really? We for sure thought it was you. It's right up your alley.😀
Quote: petroglyphDo you get the first one that TP posted?
I see state after state declaring that they won't prosecute any crimes [shoplifting] under 8-9 hundred dollars now. Any employee anywhere is a fool to go after a thief for that amount of money. Bank tellers are taught to just hand over the money, it doesn't matter.
The clerk from what I saw was on her phone, and may have grabbed the thief just out of instinct, like she has kids or something and doesn't want them reaching into a fire?
Or maybe the clerk originally grabbed the woman in self defense, as you can see the thief's hand is outstretched toward the working woman?
Now the clerk no longer has a job. I wonder if she will sue the Navy store for firing her, claiming duress and termination under false pretenses?
Maybe the woman who used to work can now go on state aid, and live the dream having learned you can go around stealing all you can carry out of a merchants store, and there is absolutely nothing legally a merchant can do about it?
I remember in Portland, about the time Babs was hanging out on Burnside street, [ : ) ] the cops were only issuing traffic tickets for grand theft auto. Why would any poor person work for minimum wage is what I wonder? If you can steal up to 900 dollars at a time, with no worry of penalty, if you have any gumption at all, they could be shoplifting 5 thousand per day. If you think about it intrinsically, only stupid people work for low wages. There is no penalty anymore for being a small time thief, as long as your conscience doesn't bother you, if you have one
???????????
You refer to the video then go on a long long rant about stealing. Nothing was stolen. Stephanie was fired. I would gave fired her. Grabbing an adult out of instinct. WTF.
to the right wingers that commented
I post a video thats not right wing or left wing. Its simply a video of a store clerk doing the wrong thing. Its so obvious she is wrong. No politics. Its not in a political thread.
Yet those on the right are questioning if the store clerk is wrong because somebody on the left posted the video. You guys on the right just so biased against the left wing that you cannot objectively view the video. Really weird
Why must you continue to say I am on the right?Quote: terapined......You guys on the right just so biased against the left wing that you cannot objectively view the video. Really weird
I have stated repeatedly for years that I am apolitical. I am no more a right winger than you are a Scientologist.
Which word or statement in that entire post led you to believe it was a political post? Because I can't find it.
Quote: petroglyphWhy must you continue to say I am on the right?
I have stated repeatedly for years that I am apolitical. I am no more a right winger than you are a Scientologist.
Which word or statement in that entire post led you to believe it was a political post? Because I can't find it.
I actually had other posters in mind when I typed that part of my response
The beginning was directed at you
The end was directed not at you but at the obvious right wingers here that commented on the video
Sorry, should have made myself clearer
just edited it with a space and an added sentence :-)
That does not make me left, either.Quote: terapinedI actually had other posters in mind when I typed that part of my response
The beginning was directed at you
The end was directed not at you but at the obvious right wingers here that commented on the video
Sorry, should have made myself clearer
just edited it with a space and an added sentence :-)
But is it illegal detention? Did that employee have probable cause to suspect she was shoplifting? I would say, yes, because a reasonable person would probably believe that she was shoplifting, given she was wearing their clothing brand with the tags still on. Depending on the laws there, I would say the employee didn't detain her for an unreasonable time, or in a harmful overly aggressive manner. There may be specific laws protecting merchants from lawsuits in situations like this. I would love to see an investigation to see if the shopper has ever indicated she knew wearing tags into a store could lead to this type of situation and if she has any motivation to bait them. Apparently she loves going viral. They should also investigate the employee and see if she has a past of racial profiling. And how many times she has been right VS wrong spotting shoplifters.Quote: terapinedQuote: petroglyphSee that? She's to traumatized to go back in the store. Probably has PTSD? She is laughing about how well her plan to sue the store worked out. Works here, sans the lawsuits.Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfOh cool, Thanks!! I find this interesting. Link?Quote: terapinedQuote: AxelWolfI hope the black chick gets compensated. Is there any update-on this i would really like to know the outcome. That's one thing I hate when they show videos like this, I never know how it turns out.Quote: terapinedTotal failure by Old Navy employee
A Black woman leaves an old Navy store
Old Navy employee follows her out and accuses her of stealing
At first the Black lady is chuckling because she is innocent
The Old Navy employee, Stephanie says she stole the shirt she is wearing and they have video evidence
Oh boy, it gets really bad as Stephanie grabs the innocent person and wont let go
Amazing the hate some people have against an innocent black woman.
Old Navy fired Stephanie and apologized to the innocent Black lady
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
Check her facebook account. She is giving updates including all communication with Old Navy management
The Yahoo article has her FB link at the beginning of the article
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/old-navy-employee-fired-after-grabbing-black-woman-accusing-her-of-shoplifting-in-viral-video-003324850.html
This may work
https://www.facebook.com/lisa.waytoonice/posts/10161594027845478
she posted this and the 50% off coupon she received
very savvy shopper. A lot more savvy then me
"***ALSO***SMH the reason I keep my tags...June 12th 2 days after the incident (June 10th), I received the 50% off everything email (this is normally when my receipt is discounted), My normal custom is to have my previously purchased items in bag accompanied by receipt in case tags are needed). Still too traumatized to go back to the mall for my discount tho.🤦🏾♀️ #IKeepMyTags"
I watch Peoples court and I hear all the time from the judge. What proof do you have of how much you paid for that item
Defendant - I threw away the tag and receipts
How much do you think she should be compensated for her trauma? My bolding above.
She even says normally she keeps the receipts. So this behavior which you didn't say you watched completely is beyond her norm. So why shouldn't the lowly working clerk have some suspicion?
Do you find that racist, that she suspected this customer of shoplifting for wearing the tags in and out of the store, when even that customer says that is not normal, even for this savvy shopper?
I simply posted this for the illegal detention
Its a pretty serious action to hold somebody against their will. You better make sure you are 100% right with absolutely no doubt to deprive an individual of their freedom. Even with mall security present, Stephanie refused to let go of an innocent person
Perhaps I should load up everything I have in my refrigerator, drive on over to WalMart or Smith's, grab a cart from the parking lot, load it up, then walk around the store for a little while, then walk right out the door. Then I can claim they're racially profiling me and whatever else that crack-lady is ranting on about. 😈
I think you mean any physical effort such as to detain or restrain them.Quote: Gabes22I do know at least here in Illinois that if a thief makes it out the front door with your merchandise, it is illegal for you as an employee to make any effort to stop them.
Quote: petroglyphIf you can steal up to 900 dollars at a time, with no worry of penalty, if you have any gumption at all, they could be shoplifting 5 thousand per day. If you think about it intrinsically, only stupid people work for low wages. There is no penalty anymore for being a small time thief, as long as your conscience doesn't bother you, if you have one
This is a one way ticket to prison. I don't know where you're getting your logic from.
You steal <$900 of something once, you might get away with it. You do that on a daily, weekly, or even monthly basis, you WILL be prosecuted eventually.
Quote: TigerWuThis is a one way ticket to prison. I don't know where you're getting your logic from.
You steal <$900 of something once, you might get away with it. You do that on a daily, weekly, or even monthly basis, you WILL be prosecuted eventually.
Not sure about that. I have called the authorities multiple times on a relative who steals things to pawn them for drug money. They will not take him in unless I have video evidence of the theft
Quote: Gabes22Not sure about that. I have called the authorities multiple times on a relative who steals things to pawn them for drug money. They will not take him in unless I have video evidence of the theft
Well, someone shoplifting multiple times from retail establishments is going to have tons of hard video evidence to go against them.
I imagine it would be much harder to prosecute family members stealing things from each other.
Quote: TigerWuWell, someone shoplifting multiple times from retail establishments is going to have tons of hard video evidence to go against them.
On the flip side
Your kid steals a 1 dollar barbie from the dollar store unknown to the parents
Phoenix cops will threaten to execute you and throw out multiple F bombs threatening immediate execution
Talk about over reacting
Quote: terapinedOn the flip side
Your kid steals a 1 dollar barbie from the dollar store unknown to the parents
Phoenix cops will threaten to execute you and throw out multiple F bombs threatening immediate execution
Talk about over reacting
Jesus, did those cops just do like an eight ball of coke before going on duty or something?? WTF
EDIT: The family is suing the city for $10 million. The cops released the full video on their Facebook page and are supposedly investigating the incident.
Parents said they had no idea their kid stole the doll and drove to an apartment complex where police, without lights or sirens, rolled up behind them and started banging on their car window with guns drawn and threatening to shoot them. The four year old daughter is having nightmares and wetting the bed, and the baby suffered some kind of arm injury from a cop yanking on it.
I'm sure the cops involved are going to enjoy their administrative leave during the investigation paid vacation before being back on duty by the end of the month.
Quote: terapinedOn the flip side
Your kid steals a 1 dollar barbie from the dollar store unknown to the parents
Phoenix cops will threaten to execute you and throw out multiple F bombs threatening immediate execution
Talk about over reacting
Yowza! Just a question for those in the know.... Is it acceptable police procedure to use those F bombs ever? Or is that alone enough to get the cop in hot water?
And you are not serious about the 'unknown to the parents' comment? Somehow it was magically known to the authorities and unknown to the parents? Or did they bring a previously bought barbie with a tag still on it like they have learned on the internet?
I assume the cops will be fired........
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: terapinedOn the flip side
Your kid steals a 1 dollar barbie from the dollar store unknown to the parents
Phoenix cops will threaten to execute you and throw out multiple F bombs threatening immediate execution
Talk about over reacting
Yowza! Just a question for those in the know.... Is it acceptable police procedure to use those F bombs ever? Or is that alone enough to get the cop in hot water?
And you are not serious about the 'unknown to the parents' comment? Somehow it was magically known to the authorities and unknown to the parents? Or did they bring a previously bought barbie with a tag still on it like they have learned on the internet?
I assume the cops will be fired........
A cop entered the store on some other business after the family left. The store told the cop they saw a little child walk out with a Barbie.
The store never pressed charges
