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Image result for dog bite statistics by breed 2016Quote: RigondeauxNonetheless, the statostics show that pit bulls are responsible for many times more attacks than any other breed.
The Top 9 Most Dangerous Dogs – Generated from fatality statistics
1) Pit Bull.
2) Rottweiler.
3) German Shepherd.
4) American Bulldog.
5) Mixed-Breed.
6) Mastiff/Bullmastiff.
7) Husky.
8) Unknown.
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The Pervasiveness of Dog Attacks by Breed - Friedl Richardson
https://www.friedlrichardson.com/dog-attacks-by-breed/
I believe #4 American bull is also a pit bull terrier. 51% of all dog bites in the US are from Pitbulls or Pitbull crosses.
Also this: 4.5 million
More than 4.5 million people are bitten by dogs each year in the United States, and more than 800,000 receive medical attention for dog bites, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
Dog Bite Prevention - American Veterinary Medical Association
https://www.avma.org/public/Pages/Dog-Bite-Prevention.aspx
if your email has been compromised other info about you could also be compromised if you use the same password on other sites
and it may seem obvious but some may not realize that a person 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐧𝐨𝐭 use the same password for various sites
I'm pretty sure the site is trustworthy. I read reviews from several sources.
https://haveibeenpwned.com/
It may be obvious but just to make it clear I want to add this part you didn't include.Quote: petroglyphImage result for dog bite statistics by breed 2016
The Top 9 Most Dangerous Dogs – Generated from fatality statistics
1) Pit Bull.
2) Rottweiler.
3) German Shepherd.
4) American Bulldog.
5) Mixed-Breed.
6) Mastiff/Bullmastiff.
7) Husky.
8) Unknown.
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The Pervasiveness of Dog Attacks by Breed - Friedl Richardson
https://www.friedlrichardson.com/dog-attacks-by-breed/
I believe #4 American bull is also a pit bull terrier. 51% of all dog bites in the US are from Pitbulls or Pitbull crosses.
Also this: 4.5 million
More than 4.5 million people are bitten by dogs each year in the United States, and more than 800,000 receive medical attention for dog bites, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
Dog Bite Prevention - American Veterinary Medical Association
https://www.avma.org/public/Pages/Dog-Bite-Prevention.aspx
Although the majority of pit bull owners firmly believe that it is how you raise the dog that dictates future behavioral disorders and unpredictable aggression,
research into reported incidences of dog attacks clearly show that certain breeds of dogs are prone to biting
Quote: RigondeauxNonetheless, the statostics show that pit bulls are responsible for many times more attacks than any other breed.
I think the facts would show there may not be that many more attacks, but that the damage per attack comparing pit bulls to other breeds is a large number. I get a few face reconstruction cases each year due to a pit bull attack. “He never did this before”!
Quote: SOOPOOdamage per attack comparing pit bulls to other breeds is a large number.
I get charged by the same chihuahua every time I'm on my bike. He never notices me walking. No trips to the ER yet though.
I am quite SURE that my IQ is larger than theirs.
MUCH larger.
Much.
Much.
Much.
You get idea.
Quote: petroglyphImage result for dog bite statistics by breed 2016
The Top 9 Most Dangerous Dogs – Generated from fatality statistics
1) Pit Bull.
2) Rottweiler.
3) German Shepherd.
4) American Bulldog.
5) Mixed-Breed.
6) Mastiff/Bullmastiff.
7) Husky.
8) Unknown.
More items...
The Pervasiveness of Dog Attacks by Breed - Friedl Richardson
https://www.friedlrichardson.com/dog-attacks-by-breed/
I believe #4 American bull is also a pit bull terrier. 51% of all dog bites in the US are from Pitbulls or Pitbull crosses.
Also this: 4.5 million
More than 4.5 million people are bitten by dogs each year in the United States, and more than 800,000 receive medical attention for dog bites, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC).
Dog Bite Prevention - American Veterinary Medical Association
https://www.avma.org/public/Pages/Dog-Bite-Prevention.aspx
I want it to be clear that your information is from the website of a personal injury lawyer, who got it from dogsbite.org, an anti-pit bull website. The American Veterinary Medical Association is against breed bans. In a 2014 paper they say
Quote:Owners of pit bull-type dogs deal with a strong breed stigma,44 however controlled studies have not identified this breed group as disproportionately dangerous. The pit bull type is particularly ambiguous as a "breed" encompassing a range of pedigree breeds, informal types and appearances that cannot be reliably identified. Visual determination of dog breed is known to not always be reliable.45 And witnesses may be predisposed to assume that a vicious dog is of this type.
The problem with pit bulls is that a lot of people look at them as tough guy status symbols. Their dogs will not be well trained, socialized, or kept in a proper environment, and therefore more likely to escape and bite someone. Add the asshole factor to the sheer number of pit bulls around, and they are going to end up on any list of breeds responsible for injury or death. But if you take numbers into account, they are no more dangerous than a lot of other breeds.
Does that make the info less accurate? Click on another website, there are dozens and dozens of them. I'm not going to investigate sites to find one that is the fairest of fair to pitbulls. They have a reputation for a reason. 95% of the dog pound dogs in Phoenix are pit's or pit crosses. There is a reason for that also. I've trained several dogs, I've been in obedience schools with pits and pit owners, who are willing to do the daily maintenance because they know that if they stop the training, the dogs will revert rapidly to their breeding. To deny that Pitbulls are prone to biting, is to say that a Labrador isn't prone to fetching. Do you deny that traits can be bred into dogs? Your kidding, right? Do you not think that some dogs are more prone to herding?Quote: jmillsI want it to be clear that your information is from the website of a personal injury lawyer, who got it from dogsbite.org, an anti-pit bull website.
"It is difficult to get a man to see something when his salary depends on him not seeing it" Upton SinclairQuote:The American Veterinary Medical Association is against breed bans.
I guess your point is, its not the dog? If these same folks had neglected their yellow labrador, do you think their escaping and biting someone is equally likely?Quote:The problem with pit bulls is that a lot of people look at them as tough guy status symbols. Their dogs will not be well trained, socialized, or kept in a proper environment, and therefore more likely to escape and bite someone.
Why doesn't everyone just own a lion?Quote:Add the asshole factor to the sheer number of pit bulls around, and they are going to end up on any list of breeds responsible for injury or death. But if you take numbers into account, they are no more dangerous than a lot of other breeds.
"Because of the danger inherent in animal ownership, some states prohibit the possession of wild or exotic animals altogether, while most simply restrict possession to certain species. For example, South Carolina prohibits owning lions as pets, but you can still own a monkey.
Exotic Animal Laws by State - FindLaw"
There is a rational reason why some states don't want people keeping lions in their yard. People recognize they are dangerous animals.
Quote: petroglyphDoes that make the info less accurate?
Yes it does. One was a commercial site maintained by someone that makes money off dog bites, the other a site run by one person that really dislikes pit bulls (understandably, as she was attacked by one).
I should have linked the AVMA paper - it's worth reading.
https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/LiteratureReviews/Pages/The-Role-of-Breed-in-Dog-Bite-Risk-and-Prevention.aspx
Quote: petroglyph"It is difficult to get a man to see something when his salary depends on him not seeing it" Upton Sinclair
Wouldn't vets not want to have a dangerous dog in their office? If I really thought they were dangerous, I would be all for a ban. And if there was a ban, people would just get a different type of dog. There would be no money lost to vets.
Quote: petroglyphI guess your point is, its not the dog? If these same folks had neglected their yellow labrador, do you think their escaping and biting someone is equally likely?
That's a good question. I've seen some pretty mean labs, so yes, a poorly socialized yellow lab kept chained in the yard is definitely a risk for biting someone. If you had said Golden Retriever I would have to agree with you.
Quote: petroglyphWhy doesn't everyone just own a lion?
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
I understand where you are coming from and I sympathize with people who have been injured by pit bulls. I felt compelled to say something because I've seen and interacted with more pit bulls than probably every active member on this forum put together, so I think I have some insight into the question. Again, I'm not dealing with fighting dogs or dogs trained to be aggressive. Not anymore anyway - I dealt with a lot of police dogs when I was in school. What a nightmare.
"Yes."
"What are you doing at the movies?"
The lion replied, "Well, I liked the book."
Therefore, if the lion does attack it's really the owner's fault.
True, lion
owners tend to be criminals and negligent people, which means the attacks will happen but... Um. My phone is ringing GTG.
Quote: petroglyphDoes that make the info less accurate? Click on another website, there are dozens and dozens of them. I'm not going to investigate sites to find one that is the fairest of fair to pitbulls. They have a reputation for a reason.
This. The facts don't matter to some people. But here they are, yet again.
Pits are responsible for more serious attacks than all other breeds combined. Probably because they are bread to be violent.
https://www.livescience.com/27145-are-pit-bulls-dangerous.html
I'm pretty sure I could sneak a lion into my condo though.
This Russian can transport a cow. I could prob do it with a lion. Odds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz_ru7rB6GA
I used to like to play lion tamer with my girlfriend. She would get down on all fours and growl, and I would throw the meat to her.Quote: RigondeauxPeople should be able to own lions because if they are expert lion trainers who have relentless dedication, the lions probably won't attack anyone.
it was early morning and I was online playing chess against the computer at chess.com and listening to my music in another open tab on google chrome.
then, the music stopped. I checked it out and I had lost my internet connection which sometimes happens with Comcast in the early mornings - maybe they do maintenance then. I couldn't go to any site in another tab including google which is the fastest site.
but the thing is this: 𝙄 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙖𝙗𝙡𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙩𝙚 𝙢𝙮 𝙜𝙖𝙢𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙣 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙣𝙚𝙩 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙣𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙗𝙚𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙙𝙤𝙬𝙣
how is that possible? how could chess.com know what move I had made or when I had made it and then respond to it making their own move
freaking me out. it doesn't seem possible.
Quote: lilredroosterokay, I've got a question for you geeky guys.
it was early morning and I was online playing chess against the computer at chess.com and listening to my music in another open tab on google chrome.
then, the music stopped. I checked it out and I had lost my internet connection which sometimes happens with Comcast in the early mornings - maybe they do maintenance then. I couldn't go to any site in another tab including google which is the fastest site.
but the thing is this: 𝙄 𝙬𝙖𝙨 𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙡𝙡 𝙖𝙗𝙡𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙘𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙡𝙚𝙩𝙚 𝙢𝙮 𝙜𝙖𝙢𝙚 𝙤𝙛 𝙘𝙝𝙚𝙨𝙨 𝙚𝙫𝙚𝙣 𝙬𝙞𝙩𝙝 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙚𝙧𝙣𝙚𝙩 𝙘𝙤𝙣𝙣𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 𝙗𝙚𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙙𝙤𝙬𝙣
how is that possible? how could chess.com know what move I had made or when I had made it and then respond to it making their own move
freaking me out. it doesn't seem possible.
I don't know how chess.com works, but the....for lack of better words, "program", could have been running locally on your computer.
Maybe chess.com does that with your game, where it downloads all possible or most likely answers to your game, updates as you play online, and then reacts to your moves offline if you're disconnected whIle playing. That would be a nice feature, to take games on a plane and play offline, for example. I know there are millions of permutations, but they narrow every move, so might be a doable algorithm.
kanopy.com has hundreds of quality movies you can stream 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐅𝐑𝐄𝐄 on your computer (or phone I guess) and all you need is a library card from a library with which they have an agreement. I think their agreement is with many hundreds of different library systems. they give you 10 free movies per month. once you start watching it you have to finish it in 3 days or they'll count it as a 2nd movie. it's awesome.
Quote: lilredroosterthere's a great new service available to many who have a library card
kanopy.com has hundreds of quality movies you can stream 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐅𝐑𝐄𝐄 on your computer (or phone I guess) and all you need is a library card from a library with which they have an agreement. I think their agreement is with many hundreds of different library systems. they give you 10 free movies per month. once you start watching it you have to finish it in 3 days or they'll count it as a 2nd movie. it's awesome.
My library doesn't have an agreement with them. At least it was easy to find that out.
Often you can get a library card based upon owning land in a certain county or being employed in a certain county or taking a college course in a certain county even if you do not dwell in that county.Quote: beachbumbabsMy library doesn't have an agreement with them. At least it was easy to find that out.
one of the few services the govt offers that is a huge benefit to everyone
Quote: djatcLibraries are +EV
one of the few services the govt offers that is a huge benefit to everyone
Libraries are GOAT for homeless people
Quote: mcallister3200Libraries are GOAT for homeless people
Don't know why they like jerkin their gerkin so much while there. It's pretty common to read stories of homeless doing that behind book shelves. Yeah, they're homeless, but they could find private places.
Quote: lilredroosterthere's a great new service available to many who have a library card
kanopy.com has hundreds of quality movies you can stream 𝐅𝐎𝐑 𝐅𝐑𝐄𝐄 on your computer (or phone I guess) and all you need is a library card from a library with which they have an agreement. I think their agreement is with many hundreds of different library systems. they give you 10 free movies per month. once you start watching it you have to finish it in 3 days or they'll count it as a 2nd movie. it's awesome.
What library are you using? I did a ton of searches and it seems like the only ones are university libraries and not the normal public libraries. All of the local colleges have an agreement but none of the public ones including Carnegie which is one of the largest ones that I know of.
I got real into the race and I forgot where I was
I started yelling out "𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐔𝐏 𝐖𝐈𝐓𝐇 𝐓𝐇𝐀𝐓 𝟑 𝐇𝐎𝐑𝐒𝐄. 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐔𝐏 𝐖𝐈𝐓𝐇 𝐓𝐇𝐀𝐓 𝟑 𝐇𝐎𝐑𝐒𝐄"
the patrons started staring at me. it was pretty funny actually.
Quote: mcallister3200Libraries are GOAT for homeless people
Lol and also kids who like to check out worldstarhiphop after school
you say you don't believe DI is possible or legitimate. me; I'm not sure.
so, anyway, on the History Channel's Documentary on DI they featured this guy nicknamed "Dominator" (I forgot his real name) who is a legend in DI circles.
I don't really know if his legendary status is justified or if it's bogus.
so, if you could deal craps to the Dominator on a private table - the bet is he has to flat bet and accomplish 1,000 resolved bets
would you 𝐛𝐞𝐭 𝐛𝐢𝐠 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐲 that after 1,000 resolved flat bets that he is down?
because if it's true that he cannot DI then I'm going to estimate you have at least a 65% chance of winning that bet
me: 𝐍𝐎 𝐖𝐀𝐘 I would take that bet. I see too much risk.
anyone else want to chime in?
Quote: lilredrooster𝐀𝐗𝐄𝐋 - I have a question for you.
you say you don't believe DI is possible or legitimate. me; I'm not sure.
so, anyway, on the History Channel's Documentary on DI they featured this guy nicknamed "Dominator" (I forgot his real name) who is a legend in DI circles.
I don't really know if his legendary status is justified or if it's bogus.
so, if you could deal craps to the Dominator on a private table - the bet is he has to flat bet and accomplish 1,000 resolved bets
would you 𝐛𝐞𝐭 𝐛𝐢𝐠 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐲 that after 1,000 resolved flat bets that he is down?
because if it's true that he cannot DI then I'm going to estimate you have at least a 65% chance of winning that bet
me: 𝐍𝐎 𝐖𝐀𝐘 I would take that bet. I see too much risk.
anyone else want to chime in?
I would. Without a second thought. I am not afraid of fairy tales.
Yes. That is why when California voters passed Proposition 13 that reigned in politician's spending, the politicians hit back by cutting library funding as a means of warding off having their gravy train ended and being controlled by the voters.Quote: djatcLibraries are +EV
one of the few services the govt offers that is a huge benefit to everyone
IIRC that was breaking Vegas? He touted himself as a dice controller. That episode was pure fluff and dramatics. You need to look at the story behind the story.Quote: lilredrooster𝐀𝐗𝐄𝐋 - I have a question for you.
you say you don't believe DI is possible or legitimate. me; I'm not sure.
so, anyway, on the History Channel's Documentary on DI they featured this guy nicknamed "Dominator" (I forgot his real name) who is a legend in DI circles.
I don't really know if his legendary status is justified or if it's bogus.
so, if you could deal craps to the Dominator on a private table - the bet is he has to flat bet and accomplish 1,000 resolved bets
would you 𝐛𝐞𝐭 𝐛𝐢𝐠 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐲 that after 1,000 resolved flat bets that he is down?
because if it's true that he cannot DI then I'm going to estimate you have at least a 65% chance of winning that bet
me: 𝐍𝐎 𝐖𝐀𝐘 I would take that bet. I see too much risk.
anyone else want to chime in?
Obviously, I would never make a bet big enough to destroy my bankroll even knowing I have an advantage.
Even if you gave me a one-time unlimited match play for Blackjack I'm not going to risk all my money.
But yes, I would be willing to bet against his "skill" assuming I have a decent mathematical advantage.
Quote: AxelWolfIIRC that was breaking Vegas? He touted himself as a dice controller. That episode was pure fluff and dramatics. You need to look at the story behind the story.
Obviously, I would never make a bet big enough to destroy my bankroll even knowing I have an advantage.
Even if you gave me a one-time unlimited match play for Blackjack I'm not going to risk all my money.
But yes, I would be willing to bet against his "skill" assuming I have a decent mathematical advantage.
the Wizard interviewed Frank Scoblete once. maybe he knows him. it would be great if something like that could be arranged; betting for or against Scoblete or the Dominator. that would be a lot of fun. it would have to be a fair # of bets, maybe not 1,000, but a lot, to get a picture of whether or not it's probable that they can get an edge.
Quote: lilredroosterthe Wizard interviewed Frank Scoblete once. maybe he knows him. it would be great if something like that could be arranged; betting for or against Scoblete or the Dominator. that would be a lot of fun. it would have to be a fair # of bets, maybe not 1,000, but a lot, to get a picture of whether or not it's probable that they can get an edge.
Frank is a member here, though has not been active in recent months.
I'm almost positive the Dom has reported in at the Big Craps Table in the Sky.
Quote: beachbumbabs.
I'm almost positive the Dom has reported in at the Big Craps Table in the Sky.
Are you saying that he Crapped out.
IIRC Frank S has retired from "winning at craps".Quote: beachbumbabsFrank is a member here, though has not been active in recent months.
I'm almost positive the Dom has reported in at the Big Craps Table in the Sky.
You have to love the guys who retire from winning.
*rolls eyes.
Quote: AxelWolfIIRC Frank S has retired from "winning at craps".
You have to love the guys who retire from winning.
*rolls eyes.
Maybe you should try it. You might like it.
Quote: billryanMaybe you should try it. You might like it.
So says the aspiring Soapdish King of Las Vegas.😉😜
I think you are a bit late to the entire DI challange party.Quote: lilredroostereven if Scoblete is retired and Dom has passed Scoblete could contact one of his most talented students and the bet could still be on
DI has mostly lost steam as far as I am concerned.
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Are you enrolled yet, Axle?
http://www.dicecoach.com/classsch.asp
"Q. Where can I practice?Quote: dogqckThere is a sucker born every minute. And two to take his money.
Are you enrolled yet, Axle?
http://www.dicecoach.com/classsch.asp
A. You can virtually practice anywhere. Shortly after I became a dice setter, I went on a trip with my wife to Arizona. She's a late sleeper and I had nothing to do, so I simply put a pillow up against the wall and tossed the dice on the floor. I had a number of rolls in the 20 -30 range. Some setters have suggested lining a chest drawer with a towel and tossing the dice into the drawer. I've been known to remove a drawer and place it on a bed."
Priceless.
Talked it up for months, practicing a few hours a week before hitting South Point.
Two years later, he still enjoys playing but no longer claims he can control them.
I note that Dominator keeps looking around nervously, saying "Whoa, it really is hot down here."
Quote: billryanMy friend moved here a month before me. He set up a crap table in his garage and took numerous lessons from someone he called "The Captain.".
Talked it up for months, practicing a few hours a week before hitting South Point.
Two years later, he still enjoys playing but no longer claims he can control them.
advantage craps
2x odds
Pick one
Quote: djatcadvantage craps
2x odds
Pick one
I don't follow. I'm not a craps player. I know he likes the dining at South Point.
Means sweat the money joint.Quote: djatc2x odds
Cromwell's 100x may be rarely utilized to its full extent but the 10x or 20x that does get wagered from time to time is sure a "better" atmosphere no matter what South Point's Food, Drinks or Comps are like.
Dice Influencers do not even TRY to influence the dice, they just try to influence their various followers and seminar purchasers with endless adjustments to the results.
Anyone who could actually influence the dice would keep his yap shut about it and quietly collect his winnings rather than giving lectures or seminars. Heck, even that team that trekked all over the country bribing dice crews didn't bother with any sort of mumbo jumbo about dice influence, they just past posted lots of bets and used trained blockers.
