Miscellaneous Discussion Thread
What is the story on the dog? Lots of people really like pitbulls.Quote: Rigondeaux
However, my limited knowledge is that they really to maul children very often, but there is a weird cult like ownership that inists the maulings are the fault of everyone but the dogs.
How would pit bull pull the child to safety but via his mouth?
doggy styleQuote: FleaStiffdid child panic and strike the dog?
How would pit bull pull the child to safety but via his mouth?
Seeing how it really is the owners who are at fault for these malicious animals. I would be ok with the next kid that is mauled by a pit bull, they put the owners down.Quote: RigondeauxI just thought it was funny.
However, my limited knowledge is that they really to maul children very often, but there is a weird cult like ownership that inists the maulings are the fault of everyone but the dogs.
https://www.animals24-7.org/2017/01/03/91-of-dog-attack-disfigurement-victims-in-2016-were-mauled-by-pit-bulls/
"From Google search: " Image result for how many pitbull attacks per year
In a recent 12-year period, from 2005 to 2016, pit bulls killed 254 Americans, about one citizen every 17 days."
I owned dachshunds for many years. My 9 pound one bit my wife on the back of her leg when we went back to my house after our first date. Dachshunds are said to be the meanest dogs out there by weight. If they weighed 80 pounds they would be outlawed, but as a 9 pound dog they are just annoying, they wont kill you.
Now....on the other hand, they can rip a baby apart in mere seconds.
Quote: RSOn one hand, pit bulls are naturally aggressive and mean death traps. That’s just how they are. They are all extremely dangerous and should never be trusted. It doesn’t matter what the owner does, this naturally instinct to KILL will always be part of their breed. These are all scientific facts, proven study after study. These beasts can rip a baby apart in mere seconds.
Now....on the other hand, they can rip a baby apart in mere seconds.
My cousin had a 100 pound pitbull. I walked into the house and she comes charging at me. I have known the dog for years but was still like ut oh. The damn thing jumped on me and pinned me to the ground licked me. I couldn't get up at all. Just imagine if I was 110 pound kid or woman. Forget about it.
Quote: RSOn one hand, pit bulls are naturally aggressive and mean death traps. That’s just how they are. They are all extremely dangerous and should never be trusted. It doesn’t matter what the owner does, this naturally instinct to KILL will always be part of their breed. These are all scientific facts, proven study after study. These beasts can rip a baby apart in mere seconds.
Now....on the other hand, they can rip a baby apart in mere seconds.
Why focus on the positives? These beasts have lots of down side, as well.
Pitbulls should be banned in cities and public places.
Ever notice that Pitbulls are coveted by thugs?
Quote: AxelWolfSomeone feel free to invite Romes to this thread. He thinks Pitbulls are as safe as puppies.
Pitbulls should be banned in cities and public places.
Ever notice that Pitbulls are coveted by thugs?
https://www.livescience.com/27145-are-pit-bulls-dangerous.html
A 2006 study from the Journal of Interpersonal Violence revealed that owners of vicious dogs were significantly more likely to have criminal convictions for aggressive crimes, drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, crimes involving children and firearms.
These findings were confirmed in a 2009 report published in the Journal of Forensic Sciences. The authors of that report wrote, "Vicious dog owners reported significantly more criminal behaviors than other dog owners," and they were ranked "higher in sensation seeking and primary psychopathy."
And a 2011 study, also in the Journal of Forensic Sciences, found that "vicious dog owners reported significantly higher criminal thinking, entitlement, sentimentality and super-optimism tendencies. Vicious dog owners were arrested, engaged in physical fights, and used marijuana significantly more than other dog owners."
One of many things I didn't need a study for but knew to be true. Just going to start calling it Axel's Law.Quote: Rigondeauxhttps://www.livescience.com/27145-are-pit-bulls-dangerous.html
A 2006 study from the Journal of Interpersonal Violence revealed that owners of vicious dogs were significantly more likely to have criminal convictions for aggressive crimes, drugs, alcohol, domestic violence, crimes involving children and firearms.
These findings were confirmed in a 2009 report published in the Journal of Forensic Sciences. The authors of that report wrote, "Vicious dog owners reported significantly more criminal behaviors than other dog owners," and they were ranked "higher in sensation seeking and primary psychopathy."
And a 2011 study, also in the Journal of Forensic Sciences, found that "vicious dog owners reported significantly higher criminal thinking, entitlement, sentimentality and super-optimism tendencies. Vicious dog owners were arrested, engaged in physical fights, and used marijuana significantly more than other dog owners."
Quote: AxelWolfOne of many things I didn't need a study for but knew to be true. Just going to start calling it Axel's Law.
Whenever I see a person have a pitbull in public I immediately assume they are either a criminal or an idiot. I wouldn't take a loaded 9 mm with the safety on and twirl it around my finger in public. That is basically what you are doing with a dog like that.
Quote: djatcI just saw a lady playing a slot with a baby carriage next to her with a dog inside. This service animal BS has got to GTFO
In Nevada, the only two recognized service animals are the dog and horse. I would love to see someone play blackjack at Caesars Palace with their service horse at the table.
Quote: GWAEWhenever I see a person have a pitbull in public I immediately assume they are either a criminal or an idiot. I wouldn't take a loaded 9 mm with the safety on and twirl it around my finger in public. That is basically what you are doing with a dog like that.
I'm not going to argue any of these arguments or stats are wrong. It's an unfortunate reality.
However....if people are adopting rescue dogs, and many are, in growing numbers, many if not most are pit bull or cross pit bull breeds. I think it's because so many are bred for dog fighting, and then culled or surrendered or taken away, all ending up in the shelters.
At least that's what's happening in the South. Every.Single.Dog. for adoption last Dec. 24 at our local shelter had at least some pit bull in them. My mom insisted she had to have a dog that day, so we got one that's mostly Labrador, but has some pit bull.
The vet confirmed that, and that all he sees in rescue dogs for the last decade is pb or mix. He also gave us his blessing on this dog, who has worked out pretty well.
The danger there is big-hearted adopters not knowing what they've taken on in one way or another.
BTW, a big f-you from me to those dog-fighter breeders. Jerks.
This is my guy, just before his 1st birthday. He is a hurricane Harvey victim at 4 mo, sent 1000 miles away to be adopted. (They didn't tell me this, which was sick of them. ) He has had some residual issues , but is becoming more secure. Very smart dog.
Quote: DrawingDeadLooks like he's sad because this lame bunch of new humans just use the bathtub for stupid stuff like washing themselves, and don't have any meth.
Totally lost me. Who's "he"?
Quote: beachbumbabsTotally lost me. Who's "he"?
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Quote: DrawingDeadQuote: beachbumbabs
Ok, got it now. Lol.
Yeah, that's his 30,000 gallon water dish. It was Apr. 23, and I had just finished (given up) trying to talk him into swimming. He was uh, skeptical, that day. Yeah, that's what that glint in his eye was.
Night before last, after months of not wanting to swim, he took his usual drink, then plopped his butt into the water, then stepped off into the pool. Surprised himself by his head going under, found his way out. 10 minutes later, he plopped back in. AAFAIK, that was his first-ever swim, but he could easily have been caught in the Houston flooding and freaked out. I'll never know.
Took all this time to grow into his Labrador-ness, I guess. Now it's hard to keep him out of it. Lol...
Earlier this spring, I have him at Lake Meade and , at the age of ten , he decided to go for a swim.
Scared the bejesus out of me as I didn't think he was coming back.
Emile was gay. In the pre-fight banter that got into the press Benny called him a faggot using the Spanish word "maricon."
It made Emile mad.
Emile beat the sh.... out of him in the ring.
the referee was very late in stopping the fight
Benny died 10 days later
after he died Benny's Manager was quoted as saying: "Damn! Now I got to get me a new boy."
great video was made of the event called "Ring of Fire"
when he was an old man Emile was beaten badly outside of a gay bar in NYC by some thugs. It triggered the beginning of his dementia.
https://youtu.be/5omN-nohrGg
One guy, by report, landed safely on his feet (not in the water) after a wingsuit flight without deploying his parachute.
Alas, it's a very, very dangerous sport: lots of deaths, which should come as no surprise.
wingsuit video
I had an acquaintance who spent a week of his vacation paragliding in those suits with the Israeli Defense Forces. Its a way of getting somewhere real quietly. Radar return is negligible and you land on your target rather than parachuting near to it. Your launch is miles away and gives your target no warning. He had been a Ranger but fell out of a plane and that ended his life as a soldier but he became a federal contractor and furnished his services to the DoD at rates very much higher than his military pay had been. Once got caught in a 4:00am surprise attack and had to field strip a weapon in the dark. Skills from his Basic Training days came back to him when he needed them even though he was 47 at the time. He had been in Granada. Got shot twice in the same day and sent right back into combat each time. He loved it.
Quote: FleaStiffI thought Benny 'the kid' Parette died in the ring on his first pro fight.
you're mistaken. Benny Kid Paret was twice a World Welterweight Champion
his first fight was in 1954. his last fight was losing to Emile Griffith on March 24, 1962
he competed in 49 pro fights.
the link has his complete boxing record and a nice photo of him
below is a t.v. guide summary of the upcoming bout from 1962
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/10925
I usually am.Quote: lilredroosteryou're mistaken.
Boxing is a strange world. Very much maligned yet staunch advocates in many circles including doctors.
I recall that author of Lay The Favorite who was in Golden Gloves and went the whole route in Madison Square Garden with some sort of 'semi ringer' from South America who came at her left handed. The gambler just would not go down and it took an actual Knock Out to end it. When she walked into a coffee shop for breakfast a few days later some guy thought her boyfriend had beat her up and told her to 'write his name and address on this slip of paper and I'll take care of him for you'. She kept that guy's phone number in case he might come in handy at some later time but didn't tell him she had just recently been knocked unconscious in the boxing ring.
For awhile there women's bars and women's boxing gyms were opening up all over the place. Perhaps its still a popular sport?
I certainly don't see fighting dogs, and I'm pretty sure those type of owners don't bring them to the vet anyway. Fighting dogs are always going to be poorly socialized and trained to be aggressive, but they are not born that way (for the most part - some dogs are going to be aggressive no matter what you do, be they pit, golden retriever, or more likely, Chihuahua). But pit bulls are terriers, so they have a high prey drive and you have to make sure they are OK around cats and small dogs.
I know I'm biased because as a vet in a nice suburb, we are seeing dogs whose owners care for them well and socialize them. But if I look at my schedule and see pit bulls, I'm happy.
A veterinarian can treat several species; a doctor is a veterinarian whose practice is limited to humans.
Quote: onenickelmiracleJmills, met a guy at the casino who tried telling me to get antibiotics at the pet store or feed store. He takes them, said he was a prepper. Thoughts?
Antibiotics require a prescription, so the pet store would be breaking the law for selling without one. For the most part they are the same drugs. Not sure about feed store antibiotics, as they mix them with farm animal feed to promote growth, whether they require a prescription. I suspect the usefulness of those types of abs post-apocalypse would be limited, since it's illegal in the US to use penicillin or similar types in feed.
Quote: FleaStiffI imagine they have a shelf life even if they are for animals. Might be the same drug even. An episode of Better Call Saul touched on this issue when the recently retired cop needed a gun shot wound treated and had to find a doctor who would keep his yap shut. Some of meds that a veterinarian can dispense are the exact same drugs an ER physician would supply but the ER guy would call the cops if treating a gun shot wound.
I can prescribe anything I want from a human pharmacy, and often have to since we don't keep a wide variety of drugs at the clinic. And I would also call the cops if asked to treat a gunshot wound in a person.
Quote: jmillsAnd I would also call the cops if asked to treat a gunshot wound in a person.
Thanks for letting us know who not to call when things get a little dicey. 😃
Quote: jmillsI've been out of town this week and sorry to have missed the pit bull discussion. I just want to say that as a veterinarian in the Chicago suburbs, I see literal tons of pit bulls every week. The percentage that are aggressive is the same as for Labradors and other breeds regarded as being family dogs. What I like about pit bulls is that they are predictable - you can tell pretty easily how they are going to react. This isn't true of some other mastiff type breeds like Presa Canarios or Cane Corsos. Luckily we don't see too many of those breeds. If you asked any vet what breed they don't want to see on their schedule, it's going to be German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and Chows (and before the German Shepherd fans get on my case, I know many great Shepherds, but at least half of the ones I see are difficult to work with).
I certainly don't see fighting dogs, and I'm pretty sure those type of owners don't bring them to the vet anyway. Fighting dogs are always going to be poorly socialized and trained to be aggressive, but they are not born that way (for the most part - some dogs are going to be aggressive no matter what you do, be they pit, golden retriever, or more likely, Chihuahua). But pit bulls are terriers, so they have a high prey drive and you have to make sure they are OK around cats and small dogs.
I know I'm biased because as a vet in a nice suburb, we are seeing dogs whose owners care for them well and socialize them. But if I look at my schedule and see pit bulls, I'm happy.
I listed German shephard as the number 2 dog that I dont like. I always say there is a reason that cops use them.
He said it's teramycin. said to say your gold fish was sick to get it. Don't remember much else, besides thinking it's irresponsible use of antibiotics, remembering reading how they abuse them in India without prescriptions and ruin the effectiveness and our ability to fight disease.Quote: jmillsAntibiotics require a prescription, so the pet store would be breaking the law for selling without one. For the most part they are the same drugs. Not sure about feed store antibiotics, as they mix them with farm animal feed to promote growth, whether they require a prescription. I suspect the usefulness of those types of abs post-apocalypse would be limited, since it's illegal in the US to use penicillin or similar types in feed.
Does anyone who has cable or satellite TV have a true a la carte choice picking individual stations, or do you only have a choice paying for different size packages?
Quote:A la carte pricing has been an often-requested but seldom-delivered option for cable and satellite distribution services.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_la_carte_pay_television
The above doesn't surprise me. Demand but no delivery, because they can force more people into bundles and pretend that's what everyone wants.
Quote: jmillsI've been out of town this week and sorry to have missed the pit bull discussion. I just want to say that as a veterinarian in the Chicago suburbs, I see literal tons of pit bulls every week. The percentage that are aggressive is the same as for Labradors and other breeds regarded as being family dogs. What I like about pit bulls is that they are predictable - you can tell pretty easily how they are going to react. This isn't true of some other mastiff type breeds like Presa Canarios or Cane Corsos. Luckily we don't see too many of those breeds. If you asked any vet what breed they don't want to see on their schedule, it's going to be German Shepherds, Rottweilers, and Chows (and before the German Shepherd fans get on my case, I know many great Shepherds, but at least half of the ones I see are difficult to work with).
I certainly don't see fighting dogs, and I'm pretty sure those type of owners don't bring them to the vet anyway. Fighting dogs are always going to be poorly socialized and trained to be aggressive, but they are not born that way (for the most part - some dogs are going to be aggressive no matter what you do, be they pit, golden retriever, or more likely, Chihuahua). But pit bulls are terriers, so they have a high prey drive and you have to make sure they are OK around cats and small dogs.
I know I'm biased because as a vet in a nice suburb, we are seeing dogs whose owners care for them well and socialize them. But if I look at my schedule and see pit bulls, I'm happy.
Nonetheless, the statostics show that pit bulls are responsible for many times more attacks than any other breed.
Quote: onenickelmiracleHe said it's teramycin. said to say your gold fish was sick to get it. Don't remember much else, besides thinking it's irresponsible use of antibiotics, remembering reading how they abuse them in India without prescriptions and ruin the effectiveness and our ability to fight disease.
Yeah, when I was in Bangladesh years ago we picked up doxycycline from a street vendor to prevent malaria.
If you are a human in America and need to go to a vet for medicine, it might be time to re-examine the path you have chosen.
